Jamison to the Cavs

Jimmy0607 · 02-17-10, 07:21 PM

Ilgauskas a first round pick and some other players to the Wiz

Fiasco · 02-17-10, 07:22 PM

Jamison to Cavs

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AtLJuSAPTQzYwH6i5SpP3rk5nYcB?slug=aw-jamisontrade021710&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

williams22 · 02-17-10, 07:22 PM

Yes, a league leading 43-11 definitely sucks. I dare someone to name a glaring weakness for the Cavs anymore.

Fiasco · 02-17-10, 07:23 PM

nvm, I'm late

Jimmy0607 · 02-17-10, 07:24 PM

They'll choke in the playoffs....once again

Powderguy · 02-17-10, 07:24 PM

Williams, not saying anything bad about you, but everytime the Cavs are brought up, it seems like you are always the first one to post in the thread then. Do you have some sort of Cavs thread making device implanted inside you that lets you know when they are the topic of discussion?

THE HITMAN · 02-17-10, 07:24 PM

Probably open the door for Amare to the Heat.

Jimmy0607 · 02-17-10, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by Powderguy

Williams, not saying anything bad about you, but everytime the Cavs are brought up, it seems like you are always the first one to post in the thread then. Do you have some sort of Cavs thread making device implanted inside you that lets you know when they are the topic of discussion?

whatsgood5 · 02-17-10, 07:26 PM

Just got a text from ESPN about this, very interesting trade. Looks like the Wizards are really cleaning house right now.

williams22 · 02-17-10, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Powderguy

Williams, not saying anything bad about you, but everytime the Cavs are brought up, it seems like you are always the first one to post in the thread then. Do you have some sort of Cavs thread making device implanted inside you that lets you know when they are the topic of discussion?

Nope, I'm just quick. This is a great move by the Cavs.

whatsgood5 · 02-17-10, 07:32 PM

I feel like this is a win for both teams here. Cavs get Jamison, and Wiz get a couple of decent plays and a good pick. Probably some cap relief or something too, but I really don't know the economic side of this trade...

williams22 · 02-17-10, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by whatsgood5

I feel like this is a win for both teams here. Cavs get Jamison, and Wiz get a couple of decent plays and a good pick. Probably some cap relief or something too, but I really don't know the economic side of this trade...

Lots of cap relief. I'm not sure how good of pick it is since it will most likely be the 30th pick of the draft, but who knows.

Cavs just got an all-star for a 30th pick.

Mac4Lyfe · 02-17-10, 07:36 PM

Wiz are trying to save money. They will most likely let Z go to come back to Cleveland.

I love the deal as I think Jamison is a better fit than Amare. The Cav's now have a good mid range forward which will help as teams were sagging on Verajao and Hickson, daring them to shoot. Jamison will have to learn to play defense but I think he can be a great factor once motivated. He will definitely spread the floor which will help Lebron and Shaq. Amare was a bad fit playing side by side with Shaq.

I love the trade. Danny Ferry 's earning his pay.

Tilt360 · 02-17-10, 07:38 PM

Imagine if Lebron leave the Cavs this summers?

Tilt360 · 02-17-10, 07:39 PM

will the Cavs still make the playoff with Lebron if he leave them next season

whatsgood5 · 02-17-10, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by williams22

Lots of cap relief. I'm not sure how good of pick it is since it will most likely be the 30th pick of the draft, but who knows. Cavs just got an all-star for a 30th pick.

Oh jeeze, didn't even think of that. Totally forgot how late this pick will be...great trade for the Cavs then.

whatsgood5 · 02-17-10, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by Tilt360

Imagine if Lebron leave the Cavs this summers?

Not even gonna waste my time, he won't leave.

And this is coming from a Knicks fan.

williams22 · 02-17-10, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Wiz are trying to save money. They will most likely let Z go to come back to Cleveland.

I love the deal as I think Jamison is a better fit than Amare. The Cav's now have a good mid range forward which will help as teams were sagging on Verajao and Hickson, daring them to shoot. Jamison will have to learn to play defense but I think he can be a great factor once motivated. He will definitely spread the floor which will help Lebron and Shaq. Amare was a bad fit playing side by side with Shaq.

I love the trade. Danny Ferry 's earning his pay.

I do like the trade, but Amar'e is a better midrange shooter...by a good amount. Jamison will accept being a role player a lot easier than Amar'e would though. Also, we didn't lose Hickson or Moon in the deal.

jlgarciaiii22 · 02-17-10, 07:53 PM

Doesn't really matter... Lakers will win again!

onlooker · 02-17-10, 07:53 PM

I felt that Jamison would be a better fit then Amare. Good deal.

MendozaLine · 02-17-10, 07:54 PM

nice move by the cavs.

ryanjep · 02-17-10, 07:54 PM

its a fire sale in washington

KiDBaZkiT · 02-17-10, 08:29 PM

Cleveland are a bunch of ****ing morons. Just give the Championship to Denver or LA right now.

williams22 · 02-17-10, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT

Cleveland are a bunch of ****ing morons. Just give the Championship to Denver or LA right now.

Care to elaborate? They are picking up an all-star for a late first round pick once Z gets bought out. Jamison is the ultimate professional and will have no trouble accepting his sidekick role. Also, if it doesn't work out (which I can't possibly see happening), they can go right back to what they had before the all-star break since they aren't losing anyone. This is a slam dunk deal from the Cavs perspective.

whatsgood5 · 02-17-10, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by onlòóker

I felt that Jamison would be a better fit then Amare. Good deal.

This means they aren't pursuing amare anymore? I wonder if Lebron had anything to do with the Jamison Pick-up

MaInIsLe · 02-17-10, 08:38 PM

Jamison is a way better fit for the Cavs. But does this mean that Shaq will have to play extended minutes? If so, they are not that deep anymore.

williams22 · 02-17-10, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by whatsgood5

This means they aren't pursuing amare anymore? I wonder if Lebron had anything to do with the Jamison Pick-up

Word is the Suns didn't like the offer of Z, Hickson, Danny Green, and a first rounder. Also, the Suns left the Cavs to dry last year at the deadline by pulling Shaq off the table at the last minute. I don't think the Cavs wanted that risk again. Also, Lebron signed off on both Jamison and Amar'e.

Originally posted by MaInIsLe

Jamison is a way better fit for the Cavs. But does this mean that Shaq will have to play extended minutes? If so, they are not that deep anymore.

No, not really. The assumption is that the Wizards will be buying out Z's contract and he will resign with the Cavs in 30 days. Until then, expect the Cavs to use Varejao as the backup center and Hickson as the backup PF. With Lebron at SF those are still big lineups.

SpreadSniper · 02-17-10, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by williams22

Word is the Suns didn't like the offer of Z, Hickson, Danny Green, and a first rounder. Also, the Suns left the Cavs to dry last year at the deadline by pulling Shaq off the table at the last minute. I don't think the Cavs wanted that risk again. Also, Lebron signed off on both Jamison and Amar'e.
No, not really. The assumption is that the Wizards will be buying out Z's contract and he will resign with the Cavs in 30 days. Until then, expect the Cavs to use Varejao as the backup center and Hickson as the backup PF. With Lebron at SF those are still big lineups.

Fingers crossed, and Im SO STOKED we got Jamison and not Amare

fsugolf · 02-17-10, 08:51 PM

good move for the cavs imo

whatsgood5 · 02-17-10, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by williams22

Word is the Suns didn't like the offer of Z, Hickson, Danny Green, and a first rounder. Also, the Suns left the Cavs to dry last year at the deadline by pulling Shaq off the table at the last minute. I don't think the Cavs wanted that risk again. Also, Lebron signed off on both Jamison and Amar'e. No, not really. The assumption is that the Wizards will be buying out Z's contract and he will resign with the Cavs in 30 days. Until then, expect the Cavs to use Varejao as the backup center and Hickson as the backup PF. With Lebron at SF those are still big lineups.

Okay gotcha, thanks for the reply. You really know your shit.

williams22 · 02-17-10, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by SpreadSniper

Fingers crossed, and Im SO STOKED we got Jamison and not Amare

My fingers are crossed as well. I can't think of any role player that's as important to a franchise as Z is. If they can manage to get him back this trade is pure genius. Danny Ferry has now given up basically nothing in return for Mo Williams, Shaq, and Jamison in the last 2 years.

ILOVETHIS50 · 02-17-10, 09:01 PM

Cavs need new players once LJ leaves.

Mac4Lyfe · 02-17-10, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by williams22

I do like the trade, but Amar'e is a better midrange shooter...by a good amount. Jamison will accept being a role player a lot easier than Amar'e would though. Also, we didn't lose Hickson or Moon in the deal.

I don't think so Williams... Amare shoots a higher percentage but that's because he get's more dunks. He's a better FT shooter than Jamison but Jamison can shoot the 3 and has better range IMO.

KiDBaZkiT · 02-17-10, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by williams22

Yes, a league leading 43-11 definitely sucks. I dare someone to name a glaring weakness for the Cavs anymore.

Come playoff time who will defend the paint when Shaq is on the bench? If you think Jamison is long enough to guard Howard/Gortat or Gasol/Bynum(if you get to finals) your just a homer. Sure Z wasnt the best defender but you cant teach length. Another weakness is your team chemistry isnt shit now. Dumb move.