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  • jsmithj88
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    • 12-27-08
    • 3591

    #176
    Originally posted by kobefanatic
    lakers got smoked because of the inconsistency of lamar and gasol, the lakers needed them to deliver, the two bigs just got punked by kg and perkins, how can kobe come through if he gets double or triple teamed whenever he touches the ball? and besides look at boston's defense back then there were plenty of fouls that were not called try to look into youtube " kobe vs boston's zone defense" he could hardly get any clean looks
    i thought they lose and win as a team? i bet if they beat boston, it would have been, kobe beat boston
    but since they lost, its gasol and odoms fault?
    so who won the title last year, the lakers or kobe?
    or from ur view point, it shud be gasol and odom won the title for kobe

    if kobe is being double and triple teamed, logically u pass the ball to the open man?
    i kno i kno, kobe passsing, its a strange thought to me also
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    • jsmithj88
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      • 12-27-08
      • 3591

      #177
      Originally posted by kobefanatic
      he got his team to the finals in a weaker conference, he went against the wizards in the 1st round, while kobe has to face the suns, who told you kobe doesn't have to play pg, can he depend on lamar and smush that time? kobe just doesn't have the right team with him that time, when you have smush as your starting pg it's almost recipe for disaster. eric snow plays defense unlike smush, who throws brick shots and can't even defend to save his life
      lakers were up 3-1, there is no excuse to lose that series

      that exactly wat happend, who do u think led the team in assists? not kobe, it was lamar odom
      i dont kno this for a fact, but im sure odom TODAY, averages more assists than kobe
      u cant argue that point, kobes primary objective is to SCORE, not pass

      are we really arguing whether smush parker is better than snow?? hahaha
      eric snow on the cavs sucked, he was slow and at the end of his career, so ur point about him playing defense is wrong
      if snow was so good on defense why did pavlovic take his spot in the playoffs, when defense is at a premium?
      snow averaged UNDER 5ppg and shot barely over 40%
      smush averaged 10ppg and shot around 44%
      now go ahead and tell me how is eric snow is better than smush parker ????????
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      • NYSportsGuy210
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-07-09
        • 11347

        #178
        You Gotta Be Kidding Me

        Originally posted by williams22
        You're full of hot air. Let's hear a real argument. This year it's hardly debatable.

        What's the matter.....the other 1800 times I smashed your arguments to pieces on countless threads wasn't good enough?
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        • scarp
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-12-10
          • 697

          #179
          if you can say Lebron is over rated.. .then you must never watch him play. Hes F with PG skills. The guy is a monter
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          • williams22
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            • 09-19-08
            • 6134

            #180
            Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
            What's the matter.....the other 1800 times I smashed your arguments to pieces on countless threads wasn't good enough?
            Show me one instance of that happening.
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            • JohnAnthony
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-30-09
              • 5110

              #181
              Lebron is not overrated. Doesn't matter what you say about him (like Jordan, like Kobe, better than Jordan, worse than Kobe) - he is not overrated.
              "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

              - D.H. Lawrence
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              • kobefanatic
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                • 01-19-10
                • 9013

                #182
                Originally posted by jsmithj88
                i thought they lose and win as a team? i bet if they beat boston, it would have been, kobe beat boston
                but since they lost, its gasol and odoms fault?
                so who won the title last year, the lakers or kobe?
                or from ur view point, it shud be gasol and odom won the title for kobe

                if kobe is being double and triple teamed, logically u pass the ball to the open man?
                i kno i kno, kobe passsing, its a strange thought to me also
                how can kobe pass the ball to those who get scared of that punk KG? how can gasol and odom win that one for kobe, when they just defend and rebound while kobe does most of the playmaking and scoring?
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                • kobefanatic
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                  • 01-19-10
                  • 9013

                  #183
                  Originally posted by jsmithj88
                  lakers were up 3-1, there is no excuse to lose that series

                  that exactly wat happend, who do u think led the team in assists? not kobe, it was lamar odom
                  i dont kno this for a fact, but im sure odom TODAY, averages more assists than kobe
                  u cant argue that point, kobes primary objective is to SCORE, not pass

                  are we really arguing whether smush parker is better than snow?? hahaha
                  eric snow on the cavs sucked, he was slow and at the end of his career, so ur point about him playing defense is wrong
                  if snow was so good on defense why did pavlovic take his spot in the playoffs, when defense is at a premium?
                  snow averaged UNDER 5ppg and shot barely over 40%
                  smush averaged 10ppg and shot around 44%
                  now go ahead and tell me how is eric snow is better than smush parker ????????
                  kobe has to do most of the playmaking, look into their stats during that season kobe averaged more assist than odom 5.1-4.9 check into 2005-2005 playoff stats
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                  • dukeblue888
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                    • 01-15-10
                    • 360

                    #184
                    kentucky and the under
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                    • kobefanatic
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                      • 01-19-10
                      • 9013

                      #185
                      they lost when they were up 3-1, because the rest of the team choked
                      and in eric snow and smush parker argument they both suck big time, but at least he doesn't play like smush who plays horrible defense, and has a horrible shot selection, that can't defend. in their average in points smush had scored more because there is no other option, the lakers bench suck big time, who was his backup that time? sasha who was in his 2nd yr?
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                      • ILOVETHIS50
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 12-24-09
                        • 34

                        #186
                        the list goes kobe, d wade, lebron. I dont see how he is overrated if he is 3rd best player in the league.
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                        • williams22
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                          • 09-19-08
                          • 6134

                          #187
                          Originally posted by ILOVETHIS50
                          the list goes kobe, d wade, lebron. I dont see how he is overrated if he is 3rd best player in the league.

                          Do you watch a different league than the rest of us? Lebron is the frontrunner for MVP this year by A LOT.
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                          • whatsgood5
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                            • 10-13-09
                            • 15359

                            #188
                            If you're the best in the league, then it's hard to be overrated.
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                            • whatsgood5
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                              • 10-13-09
                              • 15359

                              #189
                              I would agree that he is very hyped up. But he deserves the hype.
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                              • jsmithj88
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-27-08
                                • 3591

                                #190
                                Originally posted by kobefanatic
                                kobe has to do most of the playmaking, look into their stats during that season kobe averaged more assist than odom 5.1-4.9 check into 2005-2005 playoff stats
                                wow, a whole 0.2 assists
                                how about we look into the regular season where odom led the team with 5.5 while kobe had 4.5?
                                but wat cant be disputed once again, is that kobe is there to score, not pass
                                u put kobe on a bad team, hes more likely to score 30-35 ppg than throw out a bunch of assists
                                where lebron has the ability to do both
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                                • jsmithj88
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-27-08
                                  • 3591

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by kobefanatic
                                  they lost when they were up 3-1, because the rest of the team choked and in eric snow and smush parker argument they both suck big time, but at least he doesn't play like smush who plays horrible defense, and has a horrible shot selection, that can't defend. in their average in points smush had scored more because there is no other option, the lakers bench suck big time, who was his backup that time? sasha who was in his 2nd yr?
                                  are u gonna explain how kobe is exempt from losing a 3-1?
                                  are u gonna explain how his entire team "choked" instead of just throwing that out there?

                                  give it up with the smush parker nonsense, u lost that fight.
                                  as bad as smush parker was, he was WAY better than eric snow.
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                                  • TonyP
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                                    • 09-20-09
                                    • 8478

                                    #192
                                    overated big time
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                                    • williams22
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                                      • 09-19-08
                                      • 6134

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by TonyP
                                      overated big time
                                      Good argument, solid points.
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                                      • HoulihansTX
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                                        • 02-12-09
                                        • 30566

                                        #194
                                        KillThisThread.com/IdioticOP/StopPostingInThisThread
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                                        • cav1x
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                                          • 10-27-06
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                                          #195
                                          LeBron is not overrated....he simply doesn't have enough support from other players to win a ring...
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                                          • juuso
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-04-05
                                            • 2896

                                            #196
                                            Neither Kobe or Lebron can be called overrated. Best 2 offensive players in the league.
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                                            • nosniboR11
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                                              • 09-02-08
                                              • 10042

                                              #197
                                              lebron is good but will he ever be the best, yes when kobe retires but he will never be in the top five ever, he does not have the work effort to better himself.


                                              good luck everyone
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                                              • onlooker
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                                                • 08-10-05
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                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by nosniboR11
                                                lebron is good but will he ever be the best, yes when kobe retires but he will never be in the top five ever, he does not have the work effort to better himself.


                                                good luck everyone
                                                Never in the top five? No work effort? That is just funny comments.
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                                                • williams22
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                                                  • 09-19-08
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                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by nosniboR11
                                                  lebron is good but will he ever be the best, yes when kobe retires but he will never be in the top five ever, he does not have the work effort to better himself.


                                                  good luck everyone
                                                  Jesus you're stupid. Lebron has improved every year since he entered the league. Look at his shooting percentages both from the field and from 3 this year to see one example. Lebron is already the best player in the game today and will be somewhere in the top 3 when all is said and done, I predict number 1.
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                                                  • RobbReport
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-22-09
                                                    • 2042

                                                    #200
                                                    I think LeBron is more consistent than Kobe definitely.
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                                                    • onlooker
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                                                      • 08-10-05
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                                                      #201
                                                      If he could afford to cut down on his scoring per game, he could average a triple double. But he can't afford that with the teams that he has to lead.

                                                      Oh yeah Williams, I think he also increased his free throw average.
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                                                      • williams22
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                                                        • 09-19-08
                                                        • 6134

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by onlòóker
                                                        If he could afford to cut down on his scoring per game, he could average a triple double. But he can't afford that with the teams that he has to lead.

                                                        Oh yeah Williams, I think he also increased his free throw average.
                                                        Yes he has over his time in the league, although not from last to this year I believe. His assists and points are career highs right now, and his efficiency is off the charts. Show me another team in the NBA that has been able to not miss a beat with key players injured. Lebron is able to pick up whatever slack he needs to. It's truly incredible to watch the guy score 45 one night then have 15 assists the next.
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                                                        • kobefanatic
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                                                          • 01-19-10
                                                          • 9013

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                                          wow, a whole 0.2 assists
                                                          how about we look into the regular season where odom led the team with 5.5 while kobe had 4.5?
                                                          but wat cant be disputed once again, is that kobe is there to score, not pass
                                                          u put kobe on a bad team, hes more likely to score 30-35 ppg than throw out a bunch of assists
                                                          where lebron has the ability to do both
                                                          a lead is a lead no matter how small it is, just like a win is a win no matter how ugly it is.
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                                                          • capper123
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                                                            • 10-21-09
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                                                            #204
                                                            lebron like to distribute the ball first! thats his main concern that tells you something about the kid. if kobe looked to pass first he wouldnt get as many points cause one of the laker stars would get too many points. the lakers team is stacked and kobe is lucky to have the big names. gasol bynum add in artest this team can afford anybody. so basically kobe knows if he has an off night one of his players will step up and take over. for lebron his team cant just step up the team and that city is on his shoulders and lebron did everything he can do and thats to win. he takes them to the playoffs and just because his supporters aren't supporting him every second isnt a reason to get on lebron. if he had half the team the lakers had he would of won 3 rings by now. lebron carries that team until they all fall apart then its just too late for him to help a weak supporting cast. besides lebrons defense is way better than kobes. thats not even an argument. that has to account for alot when looking at overall game! also look at the assists that lebron has i mean this kid can dish out the ball. overall lebron is far better than kobe anyday of the week. kobe has expirience and when shaq got worn out i think kobe was old enough to take the training wheels off his bike and shaq let him go. lebron didnt get a set of training wheels. lebron vs kobe one on one lebron would stuff him and send him back to la crying! go get that championship this year and shut up the rich can afford anyone lakers franchise. go cleveland go lebron get that ring!
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                                                            • pronk
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                                                              • 11-22-08
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                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                                              this thread is as useless as MK's win percentage
                                                              Bingo!
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                                                              • Scorpion
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                                                                • 09-04-05
                                                                • 7797

                                                                #206
                                                                I hope he doesnt cost east the all star game
                                                                so overrated
                                                                so many turnovers
                                                                is trying so hard to win the mvp, lebron is just ****ing boy
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                                                                • jsmithj88
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-27-08
                                                                  • 3591

                                                                  #207
                                                                  nobody cares about the all-star game
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                                                                  • Scorpion
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                                                                    • 09-04-05
                                                                    • 7797

                                                                    #208
                                                                    ONLY lEBRON DOES
                                                                    WHAT A ****ING LOSER
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                                                                    • JohnAnthony
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                                                                      • 04-30-09
                                                                      • 5110

                                                                      #209
                                                                      LOL @ Lebron haters.
                                                                      "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                                                                      - D.H. Lawrence
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                                                                      • whatsgood5
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                                                                        • 10-13-09
                                                                        • 15359

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by Scorpion
                                                                        ONLY lEBRON DOES
                                                                        WHAT A ****ING LOSER
                                                                        Yeah, he's such a fukking loser. Can't believe that guy likes to win
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