Cavs -3

[Wilforth]

Cavs -3 (-110)

You may have heard that Mo Williams is out for the Cavs. That's good news for Cavs backers. Anytime you have a hyped game of this nature, a player goes injured. The lines are adjusted against the "shorthanded" team. The public pounds the "healthier" team. In the end, the "shorthanded" team wins!
Personally, I don't believe Mo is truly injured. It's all a ploy to steal money from an unsuspecting public.

[sportsguy04]

Think about it though. You really think the Cavs and the local Cleveland newspaper announce him not playing so the Gambling community could pound the lakers for more money.

Give me a break.

[williams22]

Cavs -3 (-110)

You may have heard that Mo Williams is out for the Cavs. That's good news for Cavs backers. Anytime you have a hyped game of this nature, a player goes injured. The lines are adjusted against the "shorthanded" team. The public pounds the "healthier" team. In the end, the "shorthanded" team wins!
Personally, I don't believe Mo is truly injured. It's all a ploy to steal money from an unsuspecting public.

Mo is OUT, as is "Will not play tonight". This is no ploy.

[bustabook]

i don't think the media would announce him out unless he is really out.. however, i don't believe for one second that vegas didn't know he was out when the line came out. i am sure his injury is accounted for and, like wilforth said, over-accounted for.

nice take on this game, wilforth.

[lyon804]

Think about it though. You really think the Cavs and the local Cleveland newspaper announce him not playing so the Gambling community could pound the lakers for more money.

Give me a break.

Well yea!! Where have you been all your life??? Whenver, you have money involved that will always go on. Why did the news just come out now??.. Mo, didn't hurt himself while sleeping last nite did he?? It's Las Vegas job to get you on the wrong side of the money... Anybody that sits here and argues with me that they just want 50/50 action and are happy to make the Vig are sorely mistaken... Very few games will ever end with even money are close to it. The Vig is just a cushion in place to make the break even point harder against bettors.

[lyon804]

i don't think the media would announce him out unless he is really out.. however, i don't believe for one second that vegas didn't know he was out when the line came out. i am sure his injury is accounted for and, like wilforth said, over-accounted for.

nice take on this game, wilforth.

Exactly, you just said what I said in another post.Mo Williams being out is not news... He left the Raptors game hurt. The timing of the News is to suck more LA money in.

[Wilforth]

Think about it though. You really think the Cavs and the local Cleveland newspaper announce him not playing so the Gambling community could pound the lakers for more money.

Give me a break.

I may have exaggerated things a little bit but the regularity of the scenario I described amazes me. You have a "big" game. Suddenly, there's an announcement that a key player is injured. The lines are adjusted against the "shorthanded" team. The public pounds the "healthier" team with everything they've got in this world. Then the shorthanded team wins. And yet the public never learns.

[Wilforth]

Mo Williams being out is not news... He left the Raptors game hurt. The timing of the News is to suck more LA money in.

This is the best thing I may have read all my life!

[sportsguy04]

I've got an idea guys... Maybe he was day to day and was going to try and play today, and maybe woke up did a few workouts with the team trainers and the decision was actually made today.

[lyon804]

This is the best thing I may have read all my life!

You and I are on the same page. Let's see if it pays off!! Most are on LA and I feel better about it. The news drove the line down to -3 and if the line goes back to -3.5 or -4 before tip off... Game over! In my mind it will become a bigger play. I am in it already at -3.5 so i have a bad number from the news, but i am not kicking myslef. Like I said if it goes solid -3.5 with some -4's again the play become more solid.

[sportsguy04]

Well yea!! Where have you been all your life??? Whenver, you have money involved that will always go on. Why did the news just come out now??.. Mo, didn't hurt himself while sleeping last nite did he?? It's Las Vegas job to get you on the wrong side of the money... Anybody that sits here and argues with me that they just want 50/50 action and are happy to make the Vig are sorely mistaken... Very few games will ever end with even money are close to it. The Vig is just a cushion in place to make the break even point harder against bettors.

Uhhh maybe news came out today because the actuall decision was made today. have you ever played a sport in highschool or college? I played a college sport and let me tell you when you injure your self, you take it day to day depending on what they injury is. ALways make a decision the day of the game.

[lyon804]

Uhhh maybe news came out today because the actuall decision was made today. have you ever played a sport in highschool or college? I played a college sport and let me tell you when you injure your self, you take it day to day depending on what they injury is. ALways make a decision the day of the game.

Nahhhh, never played anything or do I know anything!! Call it what you want to, but most are in agreement here.... Vegas would have not released a line without knowing the availability of a starter in this game. The injury is accounted for and over accounted for with the Pubs betting LA. If you like LA man got for it.. It is a perfect storm for Vegas... LA is a JM bet from what I heard(although i don't bet that BS or do I care) LA is getting points on TNT and they have released the news Mo Williams will not play tonite. Vegas sure doesn't seem to mind taking all those Lakers +3 bets. Most Cleveland backers have lost support with the news and not play Cleveland. That just leaves a bunch of people taking LA +3

[lakerboy]

Well yea!! Where have you been all your life??? Whenver, you have money involved that will always go on. Why did the news just come out now??.. Mo, didn't hurt himself while sleeping last nite did he?? It's Las Vegas job to get you on the wrong side of the money... Anybody that sits here and argues with me that they just want 50/50 action and are happy to make the Vig are sorely mistaken... Very few games will ever end with even money are close to it. The Vig is just a cushion in place to make the break even point harder against bettors.

Thank you at least some of us see the light. Books want action on the wrong side. They are happy to take vig but they have opinions on the game and want the wrong side to lose. Books win off public silliness and im happy the line has moved down. Thats why i never bet until the last minute. Now we got an even better #. Most of the time in situations like this the original # still covers. I love this line dropping down .

[Wilforth]

Books win off public silliness ...

[NDawg]

Cavs murder lake show again

[Nguyen]

yeah NBA is fixed and we all know that. They have magnet rims that are manipulated by Vegas to attract missing shots. In other words, a basketball contains, perhaps, metal, which allows the magnetic rims to attract any shots that gets throwing in the surrounding area. There are evidence. Just watch Denver V Warriors last night and you will believe me. The line for that game at 2nd half was over or under 116, which is almost impossible to bet on the over. So, logically, I wagered heavily on the over. Within seconds of the 4th quarter left, when the game clearly has predetermined to go under, the warriors shot a wild three pointer that went in to go to OT. This was a plot by Vegas, a enticing Under bet and hit us with an over time to make us lose. Be careful when betting on NBA people, trust me.

[lyon804]

Thank you at least some of us see the light. Books want action on the wrong side. They are happy to take vig but they have opinions on the game and want the wrong side to lose. Books win off public silliness and im happy the line has moved down. Thats why i never bet until the last minute. Now we got an even better #. Most of the time in situations like this the original # still covers. I love this line dropping down .

Las Vegas has ingrained this way of thinking...."Hey we don't care who wins and loses we just want the vig" People that believe that are sqaures. When I was a square I believed that too. I was also a losing bettor. Yes, they like the Vig. Vig, is just insurance money to insure profit over the long haul... Not what they are looking to make day in and day out.


I know you know this LB, but I am about to enlighten some squares..

You deposit $1,000 into a online sportsbook. You play $20 a game every game and hit 50%.... How long will it take you to reup??? A long time. Books are in business for income. Nothing is actually made at all on the vig until you send them another deposit......Books need cash flow.. not vig. Cash flow comes from you being on the wrong side more times than not... Not from you winning 50% of the game and losing vig!!

Geez people.. you are gullable

[paco]

Will be a good game for sure

[SaffaCappa]

Cleveland wins by 8 so it doesnt matter if you get -3 or -3.5

[juuso]

On Cavs -3 too.

[shage]

is this the same media that said shaq and west wasnt going to play but both ended up playing

[sportsguy04]

Nahhhh, never played anything or do I know anything!! Call it what you want to, but most are in agreement here.... Vegas would have not released a line without knowing the availability of a starter in this game. The injury is accounted for and over accounted for with the Pubs betting LA. If you like LA man got for it.. It is a perfect storm for Vegas... LA is a JM bet from what I heard(although i don't bet that BS or do I care) LA is getting points on TNT and they have released the news Mo Williams will not play tonite. Vegas sure doesn't seem to mind taking all those Lakers +3 bets. Most Cleveland backers have lost support with the news and not play Cleveland. That just leaves a bunch of people taking LA +3

Sir, you didnt understand my original post. I wasn't referring to the line that vegas put up. Im agreeing with you that they probably knew about Mo's injury and that he most likely wouldnt be playing. I was referring to wilforths original post about why they would just now announce Mo being out of the game tonight. Two different topics.

[ngates815]

Delonte West Tears up D fisher/Farmar for 18pts/7reb/6ast. Hopefully Brown isn't in there, because West will get tore up by him.

Cavs win no matter what. Delonte West is the man.

[regretz]

love the Cavs

[Busterflywheel]

Cavs -3 (-110)

You may have heard that Mo Williams is out for the Cavs. That's good news for Cavs backers. Anytime you have a hyped game of this nature, a player goes injured. The lines are adjusted against the "shorthanded" team. The public pounds the "healthier" team. In the end, the "shorthanded" team wins!
Personally, I don't believe Mo is truly injured. It's all a ploy to steal money from an unsuspecting public.

Typical NBA propaganda I agree...Im taking Cavs M.L myself...BOL

[Dexter]

Las Vegas has ingrained this way of thinking...."Hey we don't care who wins and loses we just want the vig" People that believe that are sqaures. When I was a square I believed that too. I was also a losing bettor. Yes, they like the Vig. Vig, is just insurance money to insure profit over the long haul... Not what they are looking to make day in and day out.


I know you know this LB, but I am about to enlighten some squares..

You deposit $1,000 into a online sportsbook. You play $20 a game every game and hit 50%.... How long will it take you to reup??? A long time. Books are in business for income. Nothing is actually made at all on the vig until you send them another deposit......Books need cash flow.. not vig. Cash flow comes from you being on the wrong side more times than not... Not from you winning 50% of the game and losing vig!!

Geez people.. you are gullable

haha - guess im a big fat square...

LB - you've taught your following well....

[palmyjin]

i'm on the lakers. i think lakers will come out strong and prove why they are the champs.

[DarkMage]

On the fence on this game, I like the Lakers but the Cavs kicked their ass last time they faced each other. Cavs at -3 is not to bad, I might take it.

Good luck

[JGILL50]

Thank you at least some of us see the light. Books want action on the wrong side. They are happy to take vig but they have opinions on the game and want the wrong side to lose. Books win off public silliness and im happy the line has moved down. Thats why i never bet until the last minute. Now we got an even better #. Most of the time in situations like this the original # still covers. I love this line dropping down .

ive said it a thousand times the books definitely want more money on one side think about it thats way to much work for a 10% profit margin.

[lyon804]

haha - guess im a big fat square...

LB - you've taught your following well....

Well, you said it! You seriously need to get over it. I know I have rubbed you the wrong way, but just let it go. I am not studying you. It's comical you think somebody else taught me that about the vig and way things actually work. Do you actually believe bookmakers are just trying to make vig? Stick to what you know. This is outside your realm of expertice. Go crunch some more data!

[Snowball]

CAVS ML for me

[Dexter]

Well, you said it! You seriously need to get over it. I know I have rubbed you the wrong way, but just let it go. I am not studying you. It's comical you think somebody else taught me that about the vig and way things actually work. Do you actually believe bookmakers are just trying to make vig? Stick to what you know. This is outside your realm of expertice. Go crunch some more data!

studying me? who said that - i made a general comment and right away you start with the tough talk...

dude, you have no clue about anything around here.....keep sheeping along and talking shit tough guy.

outside my realm of expertise...haha

[jcljack25]

I love people playing revenge factor. If Lakers were not good enough to not get smoked last time, what... are they going to try harder to win this time? Why didn't they just do that last time? The better team won last time because Lakers are in cruise control until playoffs, that is how they are built. If this was Game 7 of NBA finals, I probably go Lakers but tonight its Cavs.

[Dexter]

ive said it a thousand times the books definitely want more money on one side think about it thats way to much work for a 10% profit margin.

heres my feelings on this. for the record.

i feel that the books care most about = action to collect the vig. that is why they move lines for the most part.

do they get tricky sometimes when they see the sharps are on one side? sure. but the books dont know who is going to win a game. they dont know the outcome. what they do know is where the sharp/wiseguy money is. the pros who consistently beat up their opening *mistake* lines.

if you're following line movements, you better have multiple books to shop (as LB does) or be prepared to buy pts. getting the soft line is key to tracking line movements and making a profit following that method.

[Kav]

now at -2 1/2 at some books