My only issue with this way of thinking of that the system has never failed is....all that back tracking was done without all the betting of JM Plays in the past to skew the lines. Now you add in CK/SM plays which have pushed lines around too and you really have all new factors to consider. My problem is I always wait on lines to get better when betting the dog. That back fired on me in game 1 with Sea. After that I did not stay on top of it and again got a bad line in game 2. Now things have gone so far in the other direction for game 3 that if I put in a bet now and say get it at -3 buy 2 points down to -1 and Sea loses by 1. I'm the loser but the "JM PLAY" is a winner because he'll argue it was a play at +1 or whatever. I just can't take that risk now. I have to be smart at this point and deal with a manageable loss vs. more than doubling that and taking a chance tonight. If Sea wins so be it and I'll be glad for all the people who stuck with it. But I want to live to bet another day.
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6.5 point movement on bookmaker. incredible.Comment -
Learning from this situation, I came up with another strat.. scalping
I am just one step ahead of the bookies.
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i'm gonna kick myself in the nuts if this C bet wins easily....for failing to have the balls to just stick it out and go with the system outright for the second time this season.Comment -
i was a little drunk when i made this bet.
looks like the game is not rigged.
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Kick in the nuts...
Well first half is proving to be a kick in the nuts for those who didn't play flat out...
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C bet wins.
i actually had detroit +4 too...and pushed it. now im kicking myself for not buying a point or two, but i'll take it.
onto minnesota.Comment -
it is a test of emotions.... humans are psychological creatures so i dont blame people for not following through entirely.Comment -
that shit was too closeDO WORK + KROW OD
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My nuts are smaller...
Man that game really tested the Kahuna's...I hit it hard...we were cruisin at half...but in typical female fashion, Seattle challenged my sanity...
First time I watched on WNBA.com....guys these games are hard to watch!
Love - hate relationship...but $ talks!
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Just a word about the JM system guys. First, it works. If you have discipline and understand money management, you will make money and lots of it. Next, use your brain!!! In the true spirit of the JM chase system, the B bet should include what you RISKED to win the A bet PLUS the intended profit of the A bet. The problem is that this gets VERY expensive and you gott have the roll to tough it out. Having said that if your nutz shrink when you lose the A bet and they are frankly shriveled up like raisins by the C bet, then plan accordingly.
A great example. I followed the chase system all the way to the C bet and recouped all my money from RISKED from the A and B bet and won the intended profit of the original A bet. Fine. there is no real science or experience in that. Tonight there was a B bet on the cubs and and A bet on the mystics vs. the sparks. The juice on the money line for the cubs B bet with my book was -230. The juice on the A bet with a 3 point buy was -70. So, in my mind it is just good damn sense to see where the better value in the final two bets of the night was. Yes, I dropped a nickel on the cubs last night. Fine. I let that go. I opted instead to choose the better value and brought the 3 points on the mystics to get to +9 vs. the sparks. To help take the sting off the cubs loss last night, I doubled my normal A bet on the mystics and saved 60 points juice by doing so. When the mystics cover tonight or the next, I will have made my money not only on the mystics but I will have made back the money I dropped last night on the cubs while SAVING 60 pts juice on the bet (cubs -230 and mystics -170). Get it? I hope you do. If you dont, you better have a shit ton of bankroll to tough out the B and C bets which do of course happen. just my two cents.
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another winning series.
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I use this same strategy when there are simultaneous system bets. And when there are simultaneous bets starting in the same sport on the A bet, I will weight my units towards the team that has the much better chance of winning the A bet. If I win, I have a little more cash to play with on the other series' B bet. If I lose, I'm still chasing the same B bet amount I would have been chasing anyway.Just a word about the JM system guys. First, it works. If you have discipline and understand money management, you will make money and lots of it. Next, use your brain!!! In the true spirit of the JM chase system, the B bet should include what you RISKED to win the A bet PLUS the intended profit of the A bet. The problem is that this gets VERY expensive and you gott have the roll to tough it out. Having said that if your nutz shrink when you lose the A bet and they are frankly shriveled up like raisins by the C bet, then plan accordingly.
A great example. I followed the chase system all the way to the C bet and recouped all my money from RISKED from the A and B bet and won the intended profit of the original A bet. Fine. there is no real science or experience in that. Tonight there was a B bet on the cubs and and A bet on the mystics vs. the sparks. The juice on the money line for the cubs B bet with my book was -230. The juice on the A bet with a 3 point buy was -70. So, in my mind it is just good damn sense to see where the better value in the final two bets of the night was. Yes, I dropped a nickel on the cubs last night. Fine. I let that go. I opted instead to choose the better value and brought the 3 points on the mystics to get to +9 vs. the sparks. To help take the sting off the cubs loss last night, I doubled my normal A bet on the mystics and saved 60 points juice by doing so. When the mystics cover tonight or the next, I will have made my money not only on the mystics but I will have made back the money I dropped last night on the cubs while SAVING 60 pts juice on the bet (cubs -230 and mystics -170). Get it? I hope you do. If you dont, you better have a shit ton of bankroll to tough out the B and C bets which do of course happen. just my two cents.Comment -
I will wait until the opening lines come out, but this is definitely one road trip I will seriously consider betting against the system and buying 3 points on the opposite team. I know Sacramento won their last two road games, but they have the worst point differential in the league by far.
If the line is not attractive for the Monarchs at the opening, then I'm going to sit on it overnight and let it swell before jumping on the Dream with a 2 or 3 point buy.
Remember, it is not only possible, but very likely, that both sides of a 3-game JM system play will win when buying 3 points. With the system players moving the lines as they do, it only makes sense to reduce risk by going to the "dark side."Comment -
Anyone? I'm gonna switch bookie for WNBA and NBA now so I really would appreciate some help here
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Case in point guys. While the system's win percentages are undeniable, the value was NOT on the cubs last night at -230. I diverted the loot that I would have bet on the cubs to the "A" bet on the mystics vs. sparks. Well, what do you know? the mystics "A" bet hit and the cubs "B" bet lost outright. Employ common sense and good money management and pay ATTENTION to the value that presents itself. I hit the Seattle "C" bet last night for 4 figures and doubled up on the Mystics "A" bet and left the Cubs "B" bet alone because the Mystics were a better value. The result was a 4 figure swing to my benefit. I was not kidding when I said in an earlier post that this guy and his system are going to pay off my house.Just a word about the JM system guys. First, it works. If you have discipline and understand money management, you will make money and lots of it. Next, use your brain!!! In the true spirit of the JM chase system, the B bet should include what you RISKED to win the A bet PLUS the intended profit of the A bet. The problem is that this gets VERY expensive and you gott have the roll to tough it out. Having said that if your nutz shrink when you lose the A bet and they are frankly shriveled up like raisins by the C bet, then plan accordingly.
A great example. I followed the chase system all the way to the C bet and recouped all my money from RISKED from the A and B bet and won the intended profit of the original A bet. Fine. there is no real science or experience in that. Tonight there was a B bet on the cubs and and A bet on the mystics vs. the sparks. The juice on the money line for the cubs B bet with my book was -230. The juice on the A bet with a 3 point buy was -70. So, in my mind it is just good damn sense to see where the better value in the final two bets of the night was. Yes, I dropped a nickel on the cubs last night. Fine. I let that go. I opted instead to choose the better value and brought the 3 points on the mystics to get to +9 vs. the sparks. To help take the sting off the cubs loss last night, I doubled my normal A bet on the mystics and saved 60 points juice by doing so. When the mystics cover tonight or the next, I will have made my money not only on the mystics but I will have made back the money I dropped last night on the cubs while SAVING 60 pts juice on the bet (cubs -230 and mystics -170). Get it? I hope you do. If you dont, you better have a shit ton of bankroll to tough out the B and C bets which do of course happen. just my two cents.
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betjam is good but their 1000 dollar limit when buying points hurts me deep.
and this 10 second delay they got me on is sucks. Ive lost track how many times ive placed a bet, waited the 10 seconds and before it gets accepted the line changes.Last edited by brooks85; 08-19-09, 11:08 AM.Comment -
Good word bro...
Good Word Bro...with smart $ managament, flexiblity, and ingenuity, we all win.Just a word about the JM system guys. First, it works. If you have discipline and understand money management, you will make money and lots of it. Next, use your brain!!! In the true spirit of the JM chase system, the B bet should include what you RISKED to win the A bet PLUS the intended profit of the A bet. The problem is that this gets VERY expensive and you gott have the roll to tough it out. Having said that if your nutz shrink when you lose the A bet and they are frankly shriveled up like raisins by the C bet, then plan accordingly.
A great example. I followed the chase system all the way to the C bet and recouped all my money from RISKED from the A and B bet and won the intended profit of the original A bet. Fine. there is no real science or experience in that. Tonight there was a B bet on the cubs and and A bet on the mystics vs. the sparks. The juice on the money line for the cubs B bet with my book was -230. The juice on the A bet with a 3 point buy was -70. So, in my mind it is just good damn sense to see where the better value in the final two bets of the night was. Yes, I dropped a nickel on the cubs last night. Fine. I let that go. I opted instead to choose the better value and brought the 3 points on the mystics to get to +9 vs. the sparks. To help take the sting off the cubs loss last night, I doubled my normal A bet on the mystics and saved 60 points juice by doing so. When the mystics cover tonight or the next, I will have made my money not only on the mystics but I will have made back the money I dropped last night on the cubs while SAVING 60 pts juice on the bet (cubs -230 and mystics -170). Get it? I hope you do. If you dont, you better have a shit ton of bankroll to tough out the B and C bets which do of course happen. just my two cents.Comment -
does anyone have an updated record and units won YTD for this system?Comment -
Very well said...and I agree especially with the part above in bold text...everyone here freaks out if an A bet doesnt hit...Just a word about the JM system guys. First, it works. If you have discipline and understand money management, you will make money and lots of it. Next, use your brain!!! In the true spirit of the JM chase system, the B bet should include what you RISKED to win the A bet PLUS the intended profit of the A bet. The problem is that this gets VERY expensive and you gott have the roll to tough it out. Having said that if your nutz shrink when you lose the A bet and they are frankly shriveled up like raisins by the C bet, then plan accordingly.
A great example. I followed the chase system all the way to the C bet and recouped all my money from RISKED from the A and B bet and won the intended profit of the original A bet. Fine. there is no real science or experience in that. Tonight there was a B bet on the cubs and and A bet on the mystics vs. the sparks. The juice on the money line for the cubs B bet with my book was -230. The juice on the A bet with a 3 point buy was -70. So, in my mind it is just good damn sense to see where the better value in the final two bets of the night was. Yes, I dropped a nickel on the cubs last night. Fine. I let that go. I opted instead to choose the better value and brought the 3 points on the mystics to get to +9 vs. the sparks. To help take the sting off the cubs loss last night, I doubled my normal A bet on the mystics and saved 60 points juice by doing so. When the mystics cover tonight or the next, I will have made my money not only on the mystics but I will have made back the money I dropped last night on the cubs while SAVING 60 pts juice on the bet (cubs -230 and mystics -170). Get it? I hope you do. If you dont, you better have a shit ton of bankroll to tough out the B and C bets which do of course happen. just my two cents.Comment -
yes...but i'm gonna take nick's advice and bet this one opposite. especially now that all the jm followers are moving the line like crazy.
sacramento has the worst record in the league, and is tied for the worst road record in the league. there's no way they cover 3 straight road games -3 points.
if i wait this out, i should be able to get the atlanta ml at -140 or -150...which is great value for a hot team against a shitty one. and if that doesn't hit, i play on minnesota in their first home game after getting romped on their recent road trip. ck/sm are already planning on slamming that game huge. and if that still doesn't hit, we get indiana in a revenge game at home. best team in the league playing the worst team in the league a week after the best team got beat by the worst team. this series looks like the perfect spot to play against Sac.Comment -
I'm sticking to the system. The minute I start capping is when things go bad. I already bet Sac on two previous series this year and they both cashed! I even bet two series with in a series in the last week and won! That system of sticking with a team who is on a 4 game road trip or longer and wins game "A" has been perfect for me so far. If Sea still produced a win with the books messing with the line the way it did I still trust that Sac-Town will produce another winner.Comment -
iirc, a sacramento series already lost this season. that team sucks, even if they've been better lately.
i might even keep playing against sacramento in this specific series, chasing the next 2 games....because i know all the jm followers are going to move the line in my favor ~4 points, plus 2 more points that i buy. that's a lot of room for error.Comment -
Corona, I hope you did end up betting on the Dream like I said I would, but I ended up betting on the CK project play and CK's suburb play (Sac) and lost both! I should have listened to my own instincts on that one.
That said, even if I had bet on the Dream instead of just recommending it, now is the time to jump back to the system play and chase Sacramento on the B and C bets. You cashed on the logic of the Dream being the better pick; now cash on the magic that the system play brings every series. You'll get two winners in one play and you won't regret bucking the system down the road.
Remember, when I said I was thinking about betting on the Dream, I also said "it is not only possible, but very likely, that both sides of a 3-game JM system play will win when buying 3 points." Well, you got one side of the win, now go with Sac-town and get the other!Comment -
i did end up betting the dream ML for the A bet.
i understand the reasoning to switch back now...i just have no faith in sacramento. wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them lose series, despite jm's record. and i already know that ck/sm are going big on the lynx, and if we wait the line's gonna move in our favor.
maybe i'll just sit it out, since i'm so split. there's already two A bets on Thursday with Atlanta & Connecticut.
and i should also remind myself that we're coming up on the end of the season....only 4 series left.
might be time to start betting this martingale again, so i don't end up with money on the table at the end of the season (needing another game to bet to regain losses).Comment -
Not if you stuck with it like I did. It was a 5 game road trip and they won game D. Then game "B" in the 2nd series. Sac does blow I'll give you that. The mistake I learned from the Sea series was not jump on the early lines. I will try that with Sac this time around and hopefully I won't get burned. Sac is 3-3 in their last 6 so anything can happen. Two of those wins were on the road too.
Hoping for both A bets to cash for all of us tomorrow
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I believed SAc is an official play but why is it not bold or highlighted on the list of schedule?Comment -
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I have seen it asked, but no good answers on a book that allows 3 pt buy. I have BETHORIZON which is good. WNBA and NBA @ -167 for 3 pts. Also have BETUS. BETJAM was good, but they now limit me to 1 pt. so I need to find another book. Any help?Comment -
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Ok not sure what to do today. I pushed last night with Sac and now that I have waited the line has gone down from 9 to 7.5. I might just stay away.
I'm also playing Conn and Atl. Atl is part of my continued chase play when a team has more than 3 in a row on the road and wins game "A". I've tried to jump on the lines early but it acutally cost me the win with Sac. I got the line at 3 and bought 2 points the night before the game. I checked later and it was 3.5 before dropping again to like 1.5 - 2. Same thing happened with me and Conn. Last night the line was 5.5 and dropped to 4.5...I jumped on it and then it pushed back up to 5. I think it's gone up and down since then again. Hope I grabbed it at the right time. Atl has been a steady 4.5 since opening at 5. Holding out to see if it goes up again. GL to all.Comment -
haha who would buy 15 points... the juice on that would be insaneDO WORK + KROW OD
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