The Daily Weather Report...Its BACK!

[Willie Bee]

I had hoped the two posters directly involved in this would've reached some mature conclusion to this exercise by now, but alas my hope has been doused. Still, enough is enough.

If you're not here to have your own record tracked in this so-called weather report, then you have no business piling on. Keep your personal insults to the Private Zone, or your account will be restricted to only posting in the Private Zone. De guello from this point on.

[cocknocker]

4-1-1 X $1500.00

It's not about the record. It's about the amount of money won. All of the others where fun wagers for the 7500 put up on

[joanapoker]

What's the problem of tracking picks? making track records? if the picks are public...........

I still don't get why the big drama over here......

90% of the posters here at SBR are greatfull to CK for his valuable lessons, but I don't think that it's an offense to CK, Smack tracking his daily posted picks!

Cant u all live in peace?

[TodaysAction]

What's the problem of tracking picks? making track records? if the picks are public...........

I still don't get why the big drama over here......

90% of the posters here at SBR are greatfull to CK for his valuable lessons, but I don't think that it's an offense to CK, Smack tracking his daily posted picks!

Cant u all live in peace?

joanapoker,

One of the problems is/was the selections were NOT being graded correctly. I'm late to this thread and have read it from the onset and did some checking on my on to see if the thread was accurate or close to it. Unfortunately, it is not and there are/were still mistakes in the grading causing a false record the last time I went to check those posts. If the tracker would be more accurate the first time he graded them, things might have gone differently but it didn't break that way. Honest mistakes can and do happen once in a while but this thread had that happen way to often for it to be an accident in my opinion. If people were posting incorrect information about yourself, my guess is you'd be unhappy (to be nice) to say the least. I get how CK is wagering and have no issues with it but when his name is/was being dragged through the mud because of a losing or few days in a row, then there is something wrong with the poster doing the dragging. Every one who has been in the game long enough realizes, people do not win every single day (nor do they lose every single day). I could go on, but I believe you are intelligent enough to get the points I am making.

[cocknocker]

What's the problem of tracking picks? making track records? if the picks are public...........

I still don't get why the big drama over here......

90% of the posters here at SBR are greatfull to CK for his valuable lessons, but I don't think that it's an offense to CK, Smack tracking his daily posted picks!

Cant u all live in peace?

Joana how would you like it if you used picks that weren't yours yet someone counted those picks against your record, and also if someone is keeping an inaccurate record altogether. If you play something for 4500 and lose three 300 wagers you would be happy at the end of the day right? Well for instance I paid all of the other games for chump change yesterday ( like any smart wagerer)because I was putting up my standard wagers on my SP's which of course is $1500. Well with 6 of them yesterday that's a whole lot of money being put out. So obviously you would play everything else small with that kind of money being put up right? Well, yesterday despite the record i came out WAY ahead because of a 4-1-1 record on the SP's. So because of what i saw yesterday as far as my money is concerned proves once again that a record is not as important as how much money that you make. And since the Smacksmiter is not waering for money (which he readily admits) why should I list how much I am playing a game for? It's not unilateral, and he is not as smart as i am at money management. I keep seperate books so when one goes down on a given day the others go up, i.e. my fade account/Secret Play account, JM and main account. No one on these threads plays games the way that i do. I don't list my Secret Plays, my JM Plays or my fade plays because it's none of Smacky''s business. I hit three long shot fades against myself last weekand it is inconsequential to me whether Smacky knows about it or not. This thread is not a true shwoing of HOW I wager because it is unauthorized.

[Smacksmiter]

Joanapoker, you are very insightful and correct in your statements...they are indeed public picks and everyone can only be benefited by the tracking...every effort is made to do an accurate tally, however, mistakes do happen and I appreciate anyone who helps find these so they can be corrected...I want as accuracy as much as humanly possible...however, I believe it goes without saying that Ck not posting his yet wanting credit for their successes prevents a fully accurate picture of his hard handicapping work...

It is Cks choice to not post the on his selection page of his thread and therefore I cannot post them in his record...if he changes his mind, we will add them to the tally...it would be a very simple thing if Ck wanted full and complete transparency of his record available to all as he now has a free transcriber that he could work with cooperatively and with his help, the record would be perfect and complete in every way...he chooses to not do this and leave portions of his record veiled in secrecy...again, his perogative...however, its up to those who read this thread to decide the WHY of that...

His listing of the record play record totals and his amounts bet on them does no one any good after the fact...

Todays Action...please give me the examples, by PM if necessary, of any mistakes in my tabulations of Cks record as I do want and need the record to be as accurate as possible...absent these examples I will assume you are just trying to agitate and your post is not helpful...there is no intent on my part to be anything other than as complete and accurate as can be and correct mistakes when found....thanks!

[joanapoker]

Well,

CK and Smack both are right in their argument, but I have to say if CK doesn't want anyone tracking his record publicly, you should respect his will.

We all here appreciate CK's insights on sports betting and I think that if it's important to us, we can track ourself his picks record. That said, I also think that Smack doesn't want to insult/offend CK and his work, I think he just want to put a record behind CK good work.......

But if both can't be in agreement, then Smack should find a solution that would make CK more comfortable.

Peace!

[Willie Bee]

TA, if you find errors in the grading, let Smack or me know. Again, this is only a thread tracking cocknocker's posted plays, and since he doesn't always use his exact money or units wagered, they're being tracked as 1-unit bets.

Joana, you'd have better luck teaching quantum physics to a kitten than you will trying to convince the posters in this thread to grow up, act more mature and treat others with respect.

[BebeRebozo]

Atlanta Hawks -4,5
New Orleans Hornets +1,5
Miami Heat +4
Oklahoma City Thunder +5,5

[NBA Hero]

thats the way beberebozo.

concentrate on making picks. i just noticed you are from germany. you are not a dirk fan, lol, cause im with dallas winning it. hopefully convincingly.

GL

[Smacksmiter]

Good Morning All! First, the Weather Report must apologize for not having the typical intermediate weather report that we usually have here on busy wagering days like Sunday was...a day long successful session of Texas Hold Em poker interfered...some things are just more important ...but, be that as it may...the weather never stops so lets review the events of Sunday March 1, 2009...

Ahh...

Oooooo...

Ugggggggggghhh...

Well...not a pretty sight for any weather watcher, including your intrepid weather hound...

Here are Ck's selections from the thread started by Dexter as a big night of partying prevented the usual thread starter by Ck...

Boston-7.5 (buying a point)(*-130).................................Los er
Maryland+4 (CBB even though in the NBA area)................Winner
Phoenix+6.5 (buying a hook)(*-120)............................Winner
Minnesota+6.5 (The lil homie Jimbo42's Play)...............Loser
Boston2.5 1st quarter........................................ ..........Loser
Warriors+4.5 (Forgot to list it here, but it's in the thread)Loser
Warriors+8.5/Toronto+10 Teased (added play)(*plays as 1 unit)Loser
Warriors-.5 2nd half........................................ ... Loser

CBB
West Virginia-10.5........................................ ..........Winner
West Virginia-6.5 1st half........................................ .Loser
West Virginia-7 2nd half ........................................ ..Winner
and of course the JM Play of the Day (* This was Toronto which lost even with the 3 point buy which Ck does not indicate he did...Willie Bee now has clarified that even though this is a Ck selection which is posted in his thread, it can not be counted toward his record as he did not actually list Toronto by name and the line/points he played it at.

Ck went 4-7 on the night posting a -4.9 units...cumulative totals now stand at 33-39-2 with a -13.65 units lost...

My selection of the Golden State Warriors +5 (-120) lost as well...0-1 on the night and -1.20 units...cumulative totals now at 3-7 and -4.80...

It seems as if there is an ill wind blowing across the land and the skies are dark and dreary for many fine handicappers lately...let us pray we may all catch our second wind and sail out of these doldrums setting our sites on a winning streak toward .500...

Best of Luck to all today as they seek weather perfection!

[Chi_archie]

i'm impressed that Smacky has kept this up for this long..... he is not your typical low attention troll....

but hey what does it matter when you bet 100 games at 2 dollars and you are 20-55....as long as you have "other" plays that you bet 3,000 dollars on that are 77-16

apparently records are useless here, some would say...



gosh I wish people would just use the spreadsheet

[cocknocker]

I didn't name my JM play Smacky, and it is unfair for you to list it when I didn't put a name to it the record is incorrect. i don't need you to fill in the blanks on a play that wasn't named

[cocknocker]

If you're goin to count that JM play against me then you have to count all of the winners then as well, Smacky, which has not lost in 143 straight series. I think taht it would be advantageous to your slander thread to tak tha one off or else count all of the wins as well. As anyone can tell you, the JM plays have been flawless this year, and I have won well over 50 dimes playing them a dime at a time. Fair is fair, Smacky. Can't only count the lsses for the JM system. If you're gonna start tallying those losses then yuo also have to give credit for the wins also. More slander....This is almost a bad as you counting the guest plays against my record

[Chi_archie]

just use the spreadsheet, and you'll be rid of Smacky forever

[Smacksmiter]

Willie Bee has clarified that the JM play...which was Toronto losing by 11 points as a +6 favorite (well over the 3 point buy even)...can not be counted against Ck's record even though he listed it as a play in his selection post for yesterday...Ck must list the team and the line/points specifically for them to be counted against his record...the daily record has been adjusted to reflect this correction...

Thank you for this clarification, Sir...

[cocknocker]

Chi-Archie i still wouldn't use the JM's because of copyright infringement. I also won't put my fades on display for the public to consume as wel, since I only play those to satisfy the requirements of whatever sportsbook I used (in order to receive the sign up bonus). So it would be incredibly stupid to play fades on the same account as the one i made my straight play on. To put both on the same spreadsheet would not be a true account of how I use them. I'm also not publicizing the SP's anymore either, so that's out as well. So basically whether the average reader wants to think that I am not good at what I do is not of consequence to me. All that I know is that I am pretty good at the money management department of this thing of ours. It's a little complicated for some to understand, but you must seperate ALL of your plays when you have subsets that are gonna hit at a clip of 70% or so (Secret Plays 39-9 ats college football/49-24-4 ats college basketball and counting and JM Plays). To play those plays mixed in with daily plays is an abomination. Those plays deserve a substantial amount of consideration. So I'll keep those books and the information seperate to myself as a private matter.

[Smacksmiter]

My selection for today is the Oklahoma City Thunder + 5 hosting the Dallas Mavericks...Dallas on a btb here and the Thunder appear to have gotten their mojo back...liking the home dog plus the points...

On a side note...after reading Ck's header post today in his thread I must congratulate him on his acknowledgment of his recent distractions and the concurrent affect on his handicapping focus and record...although he continues to discuss his creative use of multiple books to prevent actual losses, it does take some degree of fortitude to come forth and admit these things...he has also taken the bold step of stating that he will not be using any other handicapper's selections as his own...

We here at the Weather Report are pleased to hear of these events and happy to have played some small part in the attenuation of focus needed to bring out the best in an excellent capper ... ... Seeing things in black and white sometimes helps bring about great clarity...

Well spoken Sir and best of luck to you as you pursue sunny skies!

[Chi_archie]

Chi-Archie i still wouldn't use the JM's because of copyright infringement. I also won't put my fades on display for the public to consume as wel, since I only play those to satisfy the requirements of whatever sportsbook I used (in order to receive the sign up bonus). So it would be incredibly stupid to play fades on the same account as the one i made my straight play on. To put both on the same spreadsheet would not be a true account of how I use them. I'm also not publicizing the SP's anymore either, so that's out as well. So basically whether the average reader wants to think that I am not good at what I do is not of consequence to me. All that I know is that I am pretty good at the money management department of this thing of ours. It's a little complicated for some to understand, but you must seperate ALL of your plays when you have subsets that are gonna hit at a clip of 70% or so (Secret Plays 39-9 ats college football/49-24-4 ats college basketball and counting and JM Plays). To play those plays mixed in with daily plays is an abomination. Those plays deserve a substantial amount of consideration. So I'll keep those books and the information seperate to myself as a private matter.

well I don't know you....don't know anything about you, your past, your record....if you are good or bad....

but with all the different "types" of plays you have... and all these other things you do....

all the secretivness ect..

why post? why come on here and court all the neg and positive attn?......

I'd think you have bigger fish to fry with all your $ and all the time it must take to keep track of all the different books, type of plays, different accts... different cash flows ect

like I said, I dont' know anything about you... i'm not sure if you joined 3 weeks ago or 3 years ago... I've never noticed you...so don't take it the wrong way..... when I wonder about an agenda or motive...

it could be a deep seated psychological thing....

could be a real altruistic desire to inform others on how to beat the books.....

could be somthing complex and sinister...I have no idea...

but my long experience tells me.... that we don't have the whole story with this CK/smacky thread which fascinates me

I've never seen a troll as persistent as smacky...he obviously has ALOT of time on his hands...

you however

I'd think you'd be busy enough with more important things.....

[Chi_archie]

harangody scores line or lose....I think the bigger harangody factor is.... can he play defense?

never mind this statement.... it might help some ncaa guys though..so i'll leave it

lol

[shoebox]

I think the bigger harangody factor is.... can he play defense?

All in a nutshell, smacky lost 18K following cks picks. He used poor moneymanagement and is very bitter.

[Chi_archie]

All in a nutshell, smacky lost 18K following cks picks. He used poor moneymanagement and is very bitter.

ouch.... lol is that for real????


I've never followed anyone's picks...and don't see the point

Smacky if that is true.... dude you need to look in the mirror fella....

and say you lost 18k....why lose 30 mins a day on this CP fella...

just move on

[shoebox]

ouch.... lol is that for real????


I've never followed anyone's picks...and don't see the point

Smacky if that is true.... dude you need to look in the mirror fella....

and say you lost 18k....why lose 30 mins a day on this CP fella...

just move on

Yep true story guy even quit gambling he just "reports the weather"
Sad, so very sad...........

[mmike032]

well I don't know you....don't know anything about you, your past, your record....if you are good or bad....

but with all the different "types" of plays you have... and all these other things you do....

all the secretivness ect..

why post? why come on here and court all the neg and positive attn?......

I'd think you have bigger fish to fry with all your $ and all the time it must take to keep track of all the different books, type of plays, different accts... different cash flows ect

like I said, I dont' know anything about you... i'm not sure if you joined 3 weeks ago or 3 years ago... I've never noticed you...so don't take it the wrong way..... when I wonder about an agenda or motive...

it could be a deep seated psychological thing....

could be a real altruistic desire to inform others on how to beat the books.....

could be somthing complex and sinister...I have no idea...

but my long experience tells me.... that we don't have the whole story with this CK/smacky thread which fascinates me

I've never seen a troll as persistent as smacky...he obviously has ALOT of time on his hands...

you however

I'd think you'd be busy enough with more important things.....

all that psych schooling has paid off Archie

[cocknocker]

Well apparently he didn't bet em the way that i bet em. I already know he doesn't have anything more than just one account. he knew theJM plays as well as the Secret Plays. There's no excuse for going broke with one subset that is hitting at 100% and the other hitting at 70% and NFL Playoff run that included only 3 losses total, PC Plays that are 14-6 and then STILL lose money... obviously he put too much on everyday wagers.

[cocknocker]

And you know what, Chi-Archie, you're right. I may start doing my work from my own SBR chat room. I know I'll get rid of trolls like Smacky then

[shoebox]

Well apparently he didn't bet em the way that i bet em. I already know he doesn't have anything more than just one account. he knew theJM plays as well as the Secret Plays. There's no excuse for going broke with one subset that is hitting at 100% and the other hitting at 70% and NFL Playoff run that included only 3 losses total, PC Plays that are 14-6 and then STILL lose money... obviously he put too much on everyday wagers.

Exactly ck, dudes pissed cause hes broke. I bet he went all in a couple times and got burnt

[Smacksmiter]

I would like to thank all the contributors and the fine comments they have posted over the course of this thread...I have taken each and every one to heart and considered them carefully...Chi Archie has been especially helpful with his psychology degree ...appreciate you man...

After review of these many things, I have an announcement to make...The Weather Report is ending effective immediately and I am asking Willie Bee to lock the thread and close it down...I believe the Weather Report has accomplished its major goals and done so in a civil and courteous manner...I understand that the many who have PMed me with encouragement to continue this effort will undoubtedly be disappointed, however, I hope you will keep your chin up and keep moving forward...

Best Wishes to All for your future weather...may it be sunny and bright every day!

[cocknocker]

You can't even tell the truth when you exit, now can you? You and i know the real reason why this thread is coming to an end. You were asked to end it because of the way that you are keeping records. For you to count the plays of OTHERS against MY record is an abomination. Then furthermore for you to want to count one singular JM Loss against a system that is hittng at 100% is further proof of you spitefulness. Why don't you count the unbelievable amount of wins too? You want to know why? Because you are attemtping to slander me. The whole while that this thread was going on, outside of two bad Saturdays the SP's wereand are killing it. So when you have those added to the JM system plays that spells a whole lot of unaccounted for WINS that you aren't giving me any credit for. So when in addition you count the plays of others against me, it's pretty easy to see that you ASSIGNED me a f*cked up record without showing both sides of the coin.

I don't mind the bad press so much though. But being inaccurate as to how i make and use my money as you are one would think that you had a personal agenda. Learn how to seperate your books, know what types of plays need special attention and consideration, and you won't go broke wagering again


Chi-Archie,

I took a couple of psychology courses in college in between the keggers, and I learned about something called spontaneous recovery. For example if a dog hear the sound of a bell and is fed that day, he will start to salivate just at the sound of a bell over time. Sort of like how a dope head becomes dependent upon the drug and starts wanting to get high just by coming into contact with the former so called friends that he used to hang around when he was getting high.

This same thing happened to Smacky. When things were goin tood he got too comfortable and blew his wad. but he justcouldn't stay away from the people he was hanging with, so althoughhe was subversive in his actions, he was addicted to being around the wagering world and the characters within it. He wasn't even wagering with money anymore if tht makes any sense.

Now as far as you're concrned, I too have never heard of you prior to this thread and your self confessed fascination with Pubster. You seem to have your head on your shoulders and also a nice family and so on. Your intervention into this experiment has shown that your curiosity got the best of you and you had to see what was going on. And that's fine. If you wanted to know more you could have PM'd me and asked me straight up.

Listen, man. I was summoned by the people who knew me at our former home, and after a year, I found a new home for us. I am more beloved for my advice, teaching and money management principles more than anything else. For you to not understand how I do things is understandable. For you to question what my reasons for hanging out with my buddies online here at SBR i also understandable. For you to not understand how I bide my time is aso understandable to. As you put it, you don't know me, and I certainly don't know you. ll that you need to know about how awful I am at this game of ours is to know that I have been doing this thing professionally since 2002 when I laid out my first dime wager. I also have a horticultural thing going on and some income property as well. The Missus is an office manager at the Multiple Sclerosis Society Northern California branch. I think that that means that money isn't a problem in this time of economic issues gloabally. Whenever you wanted to know something abou me, all that you had to do was ask me personally. it's an ages old concept. If you want to know anything, go straight to the source. Stop wondering aloud.

[Smacksmiter]

Ck, Sir...I must say I stand amazed and impressed again...is there anything you are not an internationally recognized expert in?? Now you profess to read my mind as to my intentions in closing the thread instead of thanking me profusely...

I closed this thread on my own...Willie Bee made no order to me to close it...but you can rest assured it has nothing to do with any of your specious blatherings...I am done with you, Sir...have a good life as long as you can...my feeling is the bottom will be very rocky...good day to you.

[cocknocker]

Whatever, Willie told me that you weren't to list plays that i don't actually put down. To name a JM play that was a loss and not list all of the winners is precisely what I'm talking about with you.

[Smacksmiter]

Well...lol...guess I can't resist a train wreck in progress...

Ck for Monday 3-02-2009...all his own personal selections..

Philly-1.5 (hook buy)
Heat+4
Spurs-8
Baylor+8

1-3... -2.40 units... cumulative record of 34-41-3 and -15.85 units...

I won with the OK City Thunder for a 1-0 night... +1.0 unit...

Cumulative record of 4-7... -3.80 units

[Willie Bee]

Whatever, Willie told me that you weren't to list plays that i don't actually put down. To name a JM play that was a loss and not list all of the winners is precisely what I'm talking about with you.

Yes, he wasn't supposed to include the records of your plays that were not posted before the games, including those 'secret plays' of yours. Smack complied with my request.

I asked you, cocknocker, to go back and correct your misinformation in post #204, but you didn't so I guess I will have to. Smack's decision to stop this tracking was his own, he was NEVER asked to stop doing it. If he decides to crank it back up and document your record, that will also be his decision, not mine or SBR's.

[cocknocker]

The correction was on #206, Uncle WIllie

[Smacksmiter]

Weather Report for 3-03-09...unfortunately, I was unable to post a selection secondary to some personal business...therefore, I am not allowed to post Ck's record for this date..

Please PM me should you wish to have the information..

Today's Selection for me is ...The Chicago Bulls -7 hosting the Golden State Warriors...Bulls are tough at home lately and should take care of business easily...

Good luck!