The Daily Weather Report...Its BACK!

[Smacksmiter]

Hello all! Its time for your Daily Weather Report! This weather report is for Sunday the 22nd of February, 2009...Lets see how the cumulus clouds were rockin' out in "Kalifornia", as Arnold would say...

Ck kept his head above the proverbial water yesterday with a 6-5 record on posted selections... +1 unit minus juice.

Ck's cumulative record since the "correction" now stands at 13-7 and +6 units...minus the juice.

My record is now 1-2.. -1 unit...minus the juice.

Best of luck today...my selection is...Boston Celtics whatever the line is when it comes out...yeah, I know...but I can't pass them up right now...

Boston Celtics -1.5.. taking them now.

Dr 8-5
Hn 5-6

[Smacksmiter]

As previously noted, it has become evident that there must be some game day tracking to ensure that no shenanigans occur with the editing feature...therefore, as of 12 noon CST...the Ck selection posting is...

Boston-130 moneyline
Boston-.5 1st quarter
Atlanta+260 moneyline
Atlanta+8.5 PC Play (1 point buy) Wait until noon for the line to go to 7.5

Several have asked what exactly a "PC Play" is...the short definition is "Pimp Circle Play" and Ck has explained in the past that he has a small inner circle of friends and associates that on occasion agree on a play ... based on that agreement, they put it out as a PC play and wager large sums of money on that selection. If I am not mistaken, Ck routinely and automatically plays these for $3,000.

As far as what the past PC Play record is...since this is the first one that has been put out since the weather report began, we will begin tracking them as of today. To find the past record, I suggest that you, gentle reader, do the research by scanning previous posts of the Ck mafia as the weather report, per Willie Bee rule, can only report from 2-20-09.

I will say this...should you take the time to research out the PC plays, you will be rewarded with valuable information. Best of luck to you on your search for the buried treasure!

[cocknocker]

PC Plays are 14-5 ats since I joined SBR

[cocknocker]

Hey, wake up, schaapattack's picks are comiing in now and i have also added on two of my own. i can only play two of his picks as we have one that is alike and one that we are on opposite sides:

New Jersey+2.5 schaapattack
Sacramento+9 schaapattack
Clippers+135 moneyline CK
Clippers+3 for him (+4 for me)

CBB

Tennessee Chattanooga-2.5 schaapattack (-2 for me I bought a hook)
Georgetown+2 schaapattack (+2.5 for me I bought a hook)

[Smacksmiter]

This is an intermediate weather report...Ck's plays listed as of about 6:50 pm CST...looks to be a very active weather evening indeed...

Boston-130 moneyline ........................................ .....................Winner
Boston-.5 1st quarter........................................ ........................Winner
Atlanta+260 moneyline ........................................ .....................Loser
Atlanta+8.5 PC Play (1 point buy) Wait until noon for the line to go to 7.5... $3,000 Loser
Clippers+135 moneyline (added play) ........................................ .Winner
Clippers+4 (added play) 1 point buy........................................ ....Winner
New Jersey+2.5........................................ .................................Winner
Sacramento+9........................................ ...................................Winner

CBB
Tennessee Chattanooga-2.5 (-2 for me i bought a hook).................Loser
Georgetown+2 (+2.5 for me I bought a hook).................................Loser

Best wishes and may everyone ride out the storms!

[Chi_archie]

Curling:
Saskatchewan -160
Ontario -120

Mmik... sharp play pal

[Chi_archie]

Usually I would appreciate the help with record keeping but apparently I am going to have to start posting screen shots of your top post on your daily thread where you list your selections for the day...you see, when I looked at your selections for the day initially you had George Washington at +17.5...I last looked at your selection page right before I left my home for a funeral at about 1pm...the game had started at 12 noon my time and was in progress...your +17.5 was still there...

Now... I find that once the game is over and George Washington loses by 18...which was a loss for you on the initially posted line of +17.5... you have edited the point spread on the selection sometime during the day while I was gone to be a +18.5 giving you a winner...just like magic

Looking for further confirmation, I looked carefully through the postings on your thread looking for a post where you indicated that you were buying additional points for that game...no posts regarding that game were posted prior to the game starting.

As it seems YOU are having trouble keeping your record straight, I will do what is necessary to document your record correctly, Sir...Unfortunately, since I did not suspect you would slip to this level of chicanery, I have no screen shot to prove this so you will get this win attributed to your record ...undeservedly so.

Its a sad and dreary weather day indeed...

oh, this is the reason this guy is obsessed.....

why don't y'all just use the spreadsheet?

[cocknocker]

Right, Smacky but here's what my entire playbook looked like

NBA

Boston-130 moneyline 1800 to win 1500 win
Boston-.5(-110) 1st qtr 550 to win 500 win
Atlanta+260 moneyline 300 put the vigorish in play for myself with the PC Play loss
Atlanta+8.5 (-130) 3000 loss
Clippers+135 moneyline 500 win
Clippers +4(-130) 1800 to win 1500 win
Sacramento+9 (-130) 1800 to win 1500 win

CBB
Tennessee Chattanooga-2(-120) 270 loss
Georgetown+2.5(-120) 270 loss (Which i didn't want to bet on anyway but took it for Smacky's sake)

So overall 6-4 on the day and 19-11 overall homes.

And positive cashflow at the end of the night. I normally don't play this many games as anyone who knows me knows, but since schaapattack is playing a lot of games everyday, i am going to ride him throughout the week anyway. For me I usually don't like to put up this much money in one night although I can. Usually I don't like to put up more than $3300.00 a night, or basically two wagers for 1500.00 apiece.

Tomorrow i am playing Detroit+180 moneyline ($1500.00) only for myself. schaapattack's plays will come later on

[cocknocker]

Hey Chi-Archie when Smacky did his homework, i am sure he saw on schaapattack's thread that anyone who played the George Washington game on the day of the game got the line at George Washington +18. Smacky is paranoid, and by some of your comments I am branding you a hater. But to show you that I'm sympathetic to your problems, I completely understand the fascination that the both of you have with me; when I throw my convention in Vegas next year, you are more than welcome to come on by and bring the family out. That way your curiosity about me and my group can be quelled.

It's only going to get worse for your boy in the upcoming weeks. Yuo are more than welcome to join in on this experiment and post your plays and record as well right here on your homies thread you know. I saw that you were doing real good at the outset of the 32 person Tournament and then things went south on you. At one point some idiot named you the best capper on the threads I recall. Hey man, shit happens. C'mon by tomorrow and let's see what you're playing. I think that that may work better for you than the constant co-signing. Kind of lame to seek me out so much and not be 'bout it 'bout it.

[Chi_archie]

lol

actually I named pubster the best capper.....I think he was like 13-1.....when he retired

I don't cap NBA....I hate the NBA... I think i'm at 60% in the contest over 40+ games now... but I have not capped a game, I just flip coins, pick sides and cap lines......I'm only in contest because I get paid to post here and have to promote stuff......

pubster was doing the same thing in the contest as me...I told him the secret, just look for a min at the line movement and post it.... he was better at that then me...


I was 0-1 today... my first loss in 11 posted plays I think in ncaa.... for real I thought that Georgetown game was a trap game..... whew...those cards can fly boy...

Gl tomorrow pal, come visit us in players talk and welcome to the site if you are new

[cocknocker]

Georgetown Whores did it again...I hate a team that underachieves with good talent....

[Chi_archie]

yeah, shame on me for picking them..... I just can't resist a home dog....

I guess i'm 1-1 if I count my nba pick...but i've never bet a single one of them, nor do I know more then 4 players on any team i've ever picked..... 23-18... not 60% but profitable.... over a small sample size, even chumps like me flippping coins get lucky

[lonesomeloser]

Right, Smacky but here's what my entire playbook looked like

NBA

Boston-130 moneyline 1800 to win 1500 win
Boston-.5(-110) 1st qtr 550 to win 500 win
Atlanta+260 moneyline 300 put the vigorish in play for myself with the PC Play loss
Atlanta+8.5 (-130) 3000 loss
Clippers+135 moneyline 500 win
Clippers +4(-130) 1800 to win 1500 win
Sacramento+9 (-130) 1800 to win 1500 win

CBB
Tennessee Chattanooga-2(-120) 270 loss
Georgetown+2.5(-120) 270 loss (Which i didn't want to bet on anyway but took it for Smacky's sake)

So overall 6-4 on the day and 19-11 overall homes.

And positive cashflow at the end of the night. I normally don't play this many games as anyone who knows me knows, but since schaapattack is playing a lot of games everyday, i am going to ride him throughout the week anyway. For me I usually don't like to put up this much money in one night although I can. Usually I don't like to put up more than $3300.00 a night, or basically two wagers for 1500.00 apiece.

Tomorrow i am playing Detroit+180 moneyline ($1500.00) only for myself. schaapattack's plays will come later on

Nice creative accounting there CK. Easy to turn it into a winning night when you only put up the units bet after the event.

So your saying you usually only like to wager $3300 a night, but bet $9750 last night. That is either poor money management by you or your dribbling again. Bit of both I think.

You are a true salesman.

[Chi_archie]

hey hey, no hating lonesome..... we are here to learn from one another...

gimme a winner for tomorrow lonesome...make a vid and give me a winner I'm barrelled in pal

[Smacksmiter]

Right, Smacky but here's what my entire playbook looked like

NBA

Boston-130 moneyline 1800 to win 1500 win
Boston-.5(-110) 1st qtr 550 to win 500 win
Atlanta+260 moneyline 300 put the vigorish in play for myself with the PC Play loss
Atlanta+8.5 (-130) 3000 loss
Clippers+135 moneyline 500 win
Clippers +4(-130) 1800 to win 1500 win
Sacramento+9 (-130) 1800 to win 1500 win

CBB
Tennessee Chattanooga-2(-120) 270 loss
Georgetown+2.5(-120) 270 loss (Which i didn't want to bet on anyway but took it for Smacky's sake)

So overall 6-4 on the day and 19-11 overall homes.

And positive cashflow at the end of the night. I normally don't play this many games as anyone who knows me knows, but since schaapattack is playing a lot of games everyday, i am going to ride him throughout the week anyway. For me I usually don't like to put up this much money in one night although I can. Usually I don't like to put up more than $3300.00 a night, or basically two wagers for 1500.00 apiece.

Tomorrow i am playing Detroit+180 moneyline ($1500.00) only for myself. schaapattack's plays will come later on

Sigh....well...good morning all and today's Weather Report comes to you from the world of Ck and some creative accounting weather has been in the works I see ...lets take a look at the nimbus clouds today and see how much sunshine we can squeeze out of them...

As you can see above, Ck squeezed another winning day out of the nimbus lemons...Ck himself assisted again by posting his own record of 6-4...however...lets look above to see if that is correct...hmm...I count 9 plays total above so that is our first clue that the weather is getting sloppy since 6 + 4 = 10...upon further review we find that his actual record is 5-4 with one of the losses a PC play which is routinely played for $3,000.

Ck's cumulative record since the "correction" now stands at 18-11...up 9 units minus the juice. Since we have not had a PC play since the Weather Report started we will note that he is now 0-1 on these plays and -$3,000 and start keeping them as a separate record as that is what Ck does himself.

As another bright poster in this thread pointed out so clearly...the dollar amounts played have also appeared next to Ck's selections after the games were completed...It would be a better weather day everyday and for everyone if Ck would deign it appropriate to put these numbers next to his selections prior to the games being played as many would be assisted by knowing how strong he views his selection...

I will let you...the gentle reader of this thread...think on why he does not...and come to your own conclusion.

"...positive cashflow at the end of the night."

That quote may assist you in your deliberations.

I won my single selection on the night with the Boston Celtics -1.5.. 1-0 on the night and +1 unit... cumulative total for me now stands at 2-2 and up 0 units, minus the juice.

My selection for today is ...The Orlando Magic -3 ...they should be able to cover the short number in this spot.

The weather again ended quite sloppy and wet today...hopefully, high pressure is headed in from the West sometime in the future

Dr 9-7
Hn 6-8

[NBA Hero]

lol

actually I named pubster the best capper.....I think he was like 13-1.....when he retired

I don't cap NBA....I hate the NBA... I think i'm at 60% in the contest over 40+ games now... but I have not capped a game, I just flip coins, pick sides and cap lines......I'm only in contest because I get paid to post here and have to promote stuff......

pubster was doing the same thing in the contest as me...I told him the secret, just look for a min at the line movement and post it.... he was better at that then me...


I was 0-1 today... my first loss in 11 posted plays I think in ncaa.... for real I thought that Georgetown game was a trap game..... whew...those cards can fly boy...

Gl tomorrow pal, come visit us in players talk and welcome to the site if you are new

hey archie,
what do you mean by minimum line movement? can you tell me about that? il PM you the same ques. I always get suckered for fav teams. like Orl tom

[Dexter]

whats DR and HN?

nets +2.5 was another play as well missed.

[cocknocker]

Hey Smacky, you know what's funny about this whole thing? You aren't puttng your dollar amounts down yet you had the audacity to put mine down for he PC Play so in response, I put down what I wagered. I am famous for money management. And I made these wagers on different books although for a fella such as yourself, you have a hard time believing that someone can manage money better than yourself. If you make a 3 dime wager you cover your bets. It's the oldest part about wagering that there is. And on a night were the schaapattack had so many wagers I decided to play the NBA heavier than the college games, especially since I didn't really want to wager on Georgetown. So it would make sense to mke a like kind small wager on Chattanooga.

When you start putting down how much you wager, then i will. You are so very petty, and you have a double standard for yourself in comparison to me. Then to go further than that, you have played the exact same games as me the past 3 days.

In other words, you don't install my amounts on your own. You allow me to do that if I so choose. I don't need your representation. I can speak for myself.

[Smacksmiter]

whats DR and HN?

nets +2.5 was another play as well missed.

Thanks Dexter...you are correct. Ck left this one winner off his own selection list and I did not recheck my list when I figured his record, I simply went by his listing which was a mistake.

Ck was therefore correct in his record being 6-4 yesterday and +2 units on the day...that brings his cumulative record to 19-11 and plus 8 units.

Ck, there is no attempt on my part to do anything other than report...I referenced your own multiple statements regarding the PC plays when I said that you routinely play them for $3,000...if that is not correct, please feel free to clarify. I have made it clear that I am not wagering on basketball any more this season so I cannot put down any money wagered. If you choose to do so, I will report it, however, it is not required.

[cocknocker]

hey hey, no hating lonesome..... we are here to learn from one another...

gimme a winner for tomorrow lonesome...make a vid and give me a winner I'm barrelled in pal

Please don't ask lonesomeloser for a pick. He is terrible

[cocknocker]

Smacky you're not getting the picture, i will list my dollar amounts when I feel it is necessary. When you have the kind of money that I have I could very easily be betting 4 and 5 dimes per game, but I don't. Now the thing that Uncle Willie is trying to point out is that the Atlanta game should have been counted by you like this:

Atlanta+8.5 1 unit

Not

Atlanta+8.5 $3000.00

And for your information, I am playing schaapattack's plays on a seperate book, the same book that I played AnthonydiamondsLC and Pho3nix32's plays on. They aren't mixed in with the monies I use for my own plays. I have three books you know. So althoughit may be true that i play a PC Play for no less than 3 dimes, it is not your responsibility to assign a money figure to any play of mine without having done so for your own plays yourself. If you think that I'm not telling the truth, then look back over ALL of you entires for yourself and show me where you typed how much YOU wagered on a game. See Uncle Willie is trying to make sure that all things remain equal. Can't report what i played on one without knowing what I played on all of the others is what he is getting at here. So from now on in the future, list them as one unit apiece and nothing more. I wll indicate if i made a wager at -130 by saying I bought a point. A hook is -120

[cocknocker]

So far today I am playing

Dallas+180 moneyline
Detroit+180 moneyline
Chicago+105 moneyline
Cleveland-3.5 1st quarter

schaapattack's plays

Wichita State-8

[Smacksmiter]

Willie Bee has requested more stringent record keeping regarding units played and we here at The Weather Report heartily agree as it seems that Ck will be playing more money line selections in the future...I went back to 2-20-09 at the "correction" point and conducted a thorough investigation of all juice paid and received for all wagers placed...the results are below...

2-20-09 Record 4-0... Units +4.00
2-21-09 Record 3-2... Units -2.15
2-22-09 Record 6-5... Units +0.90
2-23-09 Record 6-4... Units +0.45

Totals..Record 19-11...Units +3.20



My record for that time period... 2-2 cumulative with units at -.20.

[cocknocker]

How did you get +3.20 with moneyline wager on the Clippers +135 moneyline wager, lol! Secondly how are you going to tabulate the two +180 wagers that I have for today should they both hit? Should be worth more than 1 unit, homes. That's like getting double your money on two spereate plays, a cool +360 total on the money. Looks like +3.6 units to me

[cocknocker]

BTW, Smacky....Orlando is the wrong call today. Bulls moneyline for me, homes. Forget about the points

[Dexter]

whats this?

Dr 9-7
Hn 6-8

[Dexter]

sweet jesus - if you guys must continue to do this, just record the friggin units won or lost. ck (or anyone) should not be sharing their personal financial numbers.

do something like:

regular play 1.1 units to win 1
big plays 3.3 units to win 3
heavy plays 5.5 units to win 5

if he takes a moneyline at +180 and mentions big, it would be risking 3 units to win 5.4
if he takes a moneyline at -150 and mentions regular, it would be risking 1.5 units to win 1.

also - can someone explain to me the point of displaying schaap's plays? this is a thread for ck's picks - not someone elses

[Smacksmiter]

How did you get +3.20 with moneyline wager on the Clippers +135 moneyline wager, lol! Secondly how are you going to tabulate the two +180 wagers that I have for today should they both hit? Should be worth more than 1 unit, homes. That's like getting double your money on two spereate plays, a cool +360 total on the money. Looks like +3.6 units to me

Every play you make is counted as a 1 unit play...therefore, a win on the Clippers +135 was calculated as a +1.35 unit return on the wager...similarly, the loss on the Atlanta +265 money line play was counted as a -1.0 unit loss. Hooks and points bought were calculated at -120, -130, etc..

For today, should you win your +180 wagers...they will be calculated as a +1.80 unit play for each, a total of +3.6 units won... should you lose...you will be -1.0 unit each or -2.0 units should you lose both of them.


Dexter, those are private notations that I will no longer be posting.

[Smacksmiter]

sweet jesus - if you guys must continue to do this, just record the friggin units won or lost. ck (or anyone) should not be sharing their personal financial numbers.

do something like:

regular play 1.1 units to win 1
big plays 3.3 units to win 3
heavy plays 5.5 units to win 5

if he takes a moneyline at +180 and mentions big, it would be risking 3 units to win 5.4
if he takes a moneyline at -150 and mentions regular, it would be risking 1.5 units to win 1.

also - can someone explain to me the point of displaying schaap's plays? this is a thread for ck's picks - not someone elses

If Ck lists a play on the top of his daily thread as a selection he is playing/tailing from another capper, it becomes his selection for purposes of tracking...simple as that...he posts it, he owns it.

[Dexter]

Every play you make is counted as a 1 unit play...

if you've learned anything from cocknocker its that net units accumulated is what matters most. no one is going to be a 65-70% ats capper over the long haul in all sports. so placing 1 unit on all of his plays makes zero sense.

he signifies his plays as regular, big, heavy and pc (which is heavy).....he can go 10-10 over 20 games and still make a ton of cash. conversely he can go 10-10 and lose a ton of cash. thats how these plays should be tracked if you truly want to report the weather accurately. i gave you a crystal clear example above if you're unsure how to do the math smack.

i'm only chiming in b/c it seems cocknocker is willing to go along with this garbage.

[Smacksmiter]

if you've learned anything from cocknocker its that net units accumulated is what matters most. no one is going to be a 65-70% ats capper over the long haul in all sports. so placing 1 unit on all of his plays makes zero sense.

he signifies his plays as regular, big, heavy and pc (which is heavy).....he can go 10-10 over 20 games and still make a ton of cash. conversely he can go 10-10 and lose a ton of cash. thats how these plays should be tracked if you truly want to report the weather accurately. i gave you a crystal clear example above if you're unsure how to do the math smack.

i'm only chiming in b/c it seems cocknocker is willing to go along with this garbage.

I would dearly, dearly LOVE to have Ck post his units on each play...I hope he takes your recommendation to heart and begins to do just that...It most certainly would give a much more accurate tabulation and that has always been my goal of reporting the weather..."Regular"..."Big"... "Heavy"...and "PC" monikers are IMO just ways to obfuscate actual units played and make it more difficult to get an accurate picture of what Ck wins and loses on any given day. Coincidence? I think not...

But...until Ck decides to follow your insightful recommendation...the Weather Report will continue on as best as we can...there is still good information to be found from checking the weather everyday.

[Dexter]

I would dearly, dearly LOVE to have Ck post his units on each play...I hope he takes your recommendation to heart and begins to do just that...It most certainly would give a much more accurate tabulation and that has always been my goal of reporting the weather..."Regular"..."Big"... "Heavy"...and "PC" monikers are IMO just ways to obfuscate actual units played and make it more difficult to get an accurate picture of what Ck wins and loses on any given day. Coincidence? I think not...

But...until Ck decides to follow your insightful recommendation...the Weather Report will continue on as best as we can...there is still good information to be found from checking the weather everyday.

you've been in his thread long enough, and im sure you have seen the few times he has posted the dollar amount that relate to a normal, big, heavy play - the increments i mentioned (1,3,5 units) would make sense to me.

[cocknocker]

Okay let me get this straight. First the guy starts a thread listing my record without consulting me. Then he keeps an archived record for me and not one for himself, then he wants me to count another person's plays as my own mixed in with my record, then he wants me to put down how much money I am playing on games without asking me, then he wants me to put down how many units I am playing on each game. So this guy wants all of these concessions on a thread that I deem inappropriate to begin with. It's kind of like having the media follow me around asking me stupid questions every day. At some point they will ask too many questions and want too much information that they aren't priviledged to receive. Smacky first of all you ar not in my league. Not even close. I will only come to this thread to make sure that you aren't misrepresenting me. This thread is not mine so I will not put things on this thead that i don't put on my own thread. What I am playing is fine. I have no idea why you are counting the tailing plays as my own, and you seem to not want to budge on that. I don't condone this thread in the first place, so no you don't get shit that i don't put on my own thread. You aren't priviledged to get more info from me than i give to the CK Mafia. I mean who are you to me? You haven't sent me a bottle of Jack Daniels, some cigars or even a measeley t-shirt or not one thing that proves that you are my friend. I don't certify this thread so for you take a firm stance in keeping it going, then i'm taking a firm stance in what information that I will allow you to have. You have a double standard.

The ironic thing is that if you had proven to be a friend, I would have no problem letting you know via PM what I play for my private plays including the JM wagers and hedges and the actual dollar amounts. But since you went off the deep end and went turncoat, you don't get shit. I don't associate with hostile forces. So to continue to keep giving you what you ask for time and again means that I give value and legion to what you are doing. This is not the case. Just keep the record and live with that. This onformation is on my own thread and it is open to the public. But guess what? Dexter can PM me and ask me for anything under the sun and I will let him know to the letter what I am doing. You? No. I stick to my own kind, and don't let strangers into my inner circle. If you had played your cards right from beginning to end then you would be able to PM me for the things you keep adding on daily to help build your thread.

You are gaining notoriety off of my name. SamNCharge is bending over backwards to get as many views on his thread a day as you are now getting on yours. And for what? Fame...

Notice how not one person has come to your thread and asked you what you are playing. That speaks volumes about your skills. You may keep the thread the way that Uncle Willie authorized you to keep it and that's all that you will be getting. You really should have stayed cool with me if you wanted to really know my personal information. Dexter is cooler than the other side of the pillow. Smacky? You ain't showed me shit but spite. Keep that record going, homes

[Smacksmiter]

Ck...duly noted and recorded, Sir. For the record, I do not seek fame or post counts...I seek only to report the weather as it occurs and provide it to those who are interested in as accurate a weather report as can be provided.

Best of luck to you for sunny skies and clear sailing!

[Smacksmiter]

Intermediate weather report...as of 7pm CST...

Detroit+180 moneyline or more by gametime................Loser
Dallas+180 moneyline........................................ ..........Loser
Chicago+105 moneyline........................................ .......Winner
Cleveland-3.5 1st quarter ........................................ ....Winner
Chicago Bulls+2.5 (buy a half point)..............................Winner
OKC+8.5 (1 point buy)........................................ .........Loser

CBB
Wichita State-8........................................ ...................Loser

Updates and additions as needed...