2013/14 NBA Thread

**jumpshotisking** · 01-04-14, 05:22 PM

no play on the twolves tonight?

**Seto** · 01-04-14, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by jumpshotisking

no play on the twolves tonight?

don't think so. i actually kinda like okc off the 2 losses but they are a hard team to back without russ. no play there 99%

**DOM-Ganador** · 01-05-14, 05:13 PM

You biting on the Raptors tonight ? RLM down from 7.5, 6.5 Pinny to 6 with definately 55% on Heat.

**Seto** · 01-05-14, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

You biting on the Raptors tonight ? RLM down from 7.5, 6.5 Pinny to 6 with definately 55% on Heat.

not sure about that one. it does seem like a raptor line i'll grant you that much. don't have the "off road trip" angle i had last time though. short public faves off road trips are generally dead money.

think i'm passing. kinda like wiz and lakers. gotta decide what i'm doing

**Seto** · 01-06-14, 12:34 PM

Clippers-9 -110 (betcris) (risking 1.65x to win 1.5x)

**Seto** · 01-07-14, 12:47 AM

Today: 1-0, +1.5x
Total: 120-100-1, +86.35x

**freeeze** · 01-07-14, 10:27 AM

Kings the play tonight against Portland ?

Also, the Knicks seem to be in a good spot to fade, no line posted on the game, though.

**jumpshotisking** · 01-07-14, 11:13 AM

yo Seto. great patience last couple of days! Line was jumping like crazy last night, but what a horrendous shooting performance by the Magic. rumor says that some bookies made payout 6 minutes into the game.

what are you looking at today, personally these are the numbers I expected from pinny.

WAS	CHA	-2,5
PHI	CLE
TOR	IND	-8,5
NOP	MIA	-8
DET	NYK	-4
PHX	CHI
SAS	MEM	+5
GSW	MIL	+8,5
LAL	DAL
BOS	DEN	-8
OKC	UTA	+6
POR	SAC	+4,5

lots of potential ml plays. Washington got my attention, looking further into that one.

**Seto** · 01-07-14, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by freeeze

Kings the play tonight against Portland ?

Also, the Knicks seem to be in a good spot to fade, no line posted on the game, though.

I'm considering Sac but not sure yet. I don't like backing that team.

Fading the Knicks, yeah. But can't put more than 1 unit on the Pistons. Hate betting them too lol. Pistons Kings Hawks (although they do less BS this year) Bucks...

**Seto** · 01-07-14, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by jumpshotisking

yo Seto. great patience last couple of days! Line was jumping like crazy last night, but what a horrendous shooting performance by the Magic. rumor says that some bookies made payout 6 minutes into the game.

what are you looking at today, personally these are the numbers I expected from pinny.

WAS	CHA	-2,5
PHI	CLE
TOR	IND	-8,5
NOP	MIA	-8
DET	NYK	-4
PHX	CHI
SAS	MEM	+5
GSW	MIL	+8,5
LAL	DAL
BOS	DEN	-8
OKC	UTA	+6
POR	SAC	+4,5

lots of potential ml plays. Washington got my attention, looking further into that one.

Yeah it's also about forcing yourself not to play when you don't like anything in this game too. Doc is gonna get his guys wins without CP3 like he did last year without Rondo. They will play hard the next few games too.

**Seto** · 01-07-14, 12:34 PM

Bulls+1.5 -110 (betcris) (risking 1.65x to win 1.5x) - just realised i coulda got better at pinny...
Bulls ml +103 (pinnacle) (risking 0.5x to win 0.52x)
Pistons+2.5 -105 (5dimes) (risking 1.05x to win 1x)
Wizards ml -105 (5dimes) (risking 1.05x to win 1x)
Mavs-9.5 -105 (pinnacle) (risking 1.58x to win 1.5x)

**jumpshotisking** · 01-07-14, 01:03 PM

strong lean on Chicago? I like the other three selections, line seems short on NYK and CHA. feel the other way around with Dallas, but I guees -11 is too much (my #)

**Seto** · 01-07-14, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by jumpshotisking

strong lean on Chicago? I like the other three selections, line seems short on NYK and CHA. feel the other way around with Dallas, but I guees -11 is too much (my #)

You can't think too much in terms of that, it's only an angle I use for a few games every now and then. Granted Knicks are partially a fade due to that IMO.

Yeah I like the Bulls to win in their first game without Lu. Phoenix is gonna start fading too I think.

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 12:05 AM

Today: 4-1, +3.47x
Total: 124-101-1, +89.82x

Pistons are such a joke. Reminded every time I bet them why I don't like taking that team. Thankfully it happens once a month or so.

Still a great night.

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 12:08 AM

0:06		85-87	Raymond Felton misses free throw 2 of 2
0:04		85-87	Carmelo Anthony offensive rebound
0:02	Kyle Singler personal foul (Carmelo Anthony draws the foul)	85-87
0:02		85-88	Carmelo Anthony makes free throw 1 of 2
0:02		85-89	Carmelo Anthony makes free throw 2 of 2
0:02	Pistons 20 Sec. timeout
0:02	Charlie Villanueva enters the game for Andre Drummond	85-89
0:01	Brandon Jennings misses 28-foot three point jumper	85-89
0:00	Pistons offensive team rebound	85-89

Unreal. Fukking free throw rebound. Fukk you Pistons.

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 12:19 AM

Clippers-10.5 -110 (5dimes) (risking 1.65x to win 1.5x)

**freeeze** · 01-08-14, 11:46 AM

I guess you have to expect shit like this to happen when you bet the Pistons, will stay away from them for a while.

I really like the Wolves tonight, especially if Bledsoe's out again. What do you think ?

**DOM-Ganador** · 01-08-14, 02:02 PM

Pistons blew their load making the 4th Q run. Had them as well, but if you noticed some bozo had a "lock" thread after we
bet. Doomed.

Like the Clips as well, for a whil earlier in the seasone it seemed like the Celts were going to play tough and compete.
That 3rd Q last night , after being down a ton, giving up all those points spoke volumes.
Took a 2nd 1/2 under in that game, and they scored 68 in the 3rd.

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by freeeze

I guess you have to expect shit like this to happen when you bet the Pistons, will stay away from them for a while.

I really like the Wolves tonight, especially if Bledsoe's out again. What do you think ?

They are clowns. Thankfully my other (and bigger) plays did well so it's all ok. Just never enjoy losing money even if I'm already 16-0 that night.

I actually kinda have a lean on Suns+8. The thing is they have blatantly overachieved but until they start proper freefalling they are still tempting against an (in my mind, many will disagree) overrated Wolves team as a big dog in an ESPN game. That said I'm not sure I'm playing it, the Suns freefall could have already started last night tbh. They are due a regression.

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

Pistons blew their load making the 4th Q run. Had them as well, but if you noticed some bozo had a "lock" thread after we
bet. Doomed.

Like the Clips as well, for a whil earlier in the seasone it seemed like the Celts were going to play tough and compete.
That 3rd Q last night , after being down a ton, giving up all those points spoke volumes.
Took a 2nd 1/2 under in that game, and they scored 68 in the 3rd.

ha, true. lock threads = dead bet

Yeah the Celtics seem like they're on one of those trips where they're gonna get blown out a lot. And I think I'm gonna ride the Clippers a bit without CP3. Doc did a great job getting his team to play much harder and make up for Rondo's absence last year, I expect something similar this year plus which he actually has a backup PG (albeit not one I'm a big fan of especially with his less-than-scintillating year with my team last year) in Collison.

**jumpshotisking** · 01-08-14, 03:55 PM

a lot of trash talking by the detroit players in that game, but no follow on the court. just a bad game in general.

4-1 is a beauty though! really liked the call on Chicago, thanks for making me consider that one.

got some numbers for tonight, tell me to stop sharing if it doesn't help the discussion.

		OWN	PINNY	LIMIT
DAL	SAS	6	5,5	8
DET	TOR	5,5	6	7,5
IND	ATL	4	4,5	6,5
GSW	BKN	5	6	7
WAS	NOP	3,5	3,5	5
LAL	HOU	12,5	14,5	14
PHX	MIN	8,5	8	10
ORL	POR	10	12,5	11,5
BOS	LAC	10,5	10,5	12

I thought you might continue the fade on PHX? got that one closer to 9 than 8. also considering Orlando and the Clippers.

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by jumpshotisking

a lot of trash talking by the detroit players in that game, but no follow on the court. just a bad game in general.

4-1 is a beauty though! really liked the call on Chicago, thanks for making me consider that one.

got some numbers for tonight, tell me to stop sharing if it doesn't help the discussion.

		OWN	PINNY	LIMIT
DAL	SAS	6	5,5	8
DET	TOR	5,5	6	7,5
IND	ATL	4	4,5	6,5
GSW	BKN	5	6	7
WAS	NOP	3,5	3,5	5
LAL	HOU	12,5	14,5	14
PHX	MIN	8,5	8	10
ORL	POR	10	12,5	11,5
BOS	LAC	10,5	10,5	12

I thought you might continue the fade on PHX? got that one closer to 9 than 8. also considering Orlando and the Clippers.

Keep posting your lines/leans pal. The more discussion the better.

That's the thing - I think the Suns are gonna be a decent fade in the next few weeks but somehow I'm feeling they have one last good game tonight. Really not high on this Wolves team too. I might just pass in the end.

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 04:03 PM

As for Orlando I'm not sure I can take them on this trip. Some teams just have those horrendous trips where they get blown out every game. Like this famous Bobcats trip last year where I actually made quite a bit fading them.

Tue, Feb 26	@ Los Angeles	L 106-84	13-44	B. Griffin 24	B. Mullens 8	C. Paul 13
MARCH	OPPONENT	RESULT	W-L	HI POINTS	HI REBOUNDS	HI ASSISTS
Fri, Mar 1	@ Utah	L 98-68	13-45	E. Kanter 23	E. Kanter 22	K. Walker 7
Sun, Mar 3	@ Sacramento	L 119-83	13-46	J. Salmons 22	J. Thompson 14	I. Thomas 7
Mon, Mar 4	@ Portland	L 122-105	13-47	L. Aldridge 23	L. Aldridge 14	K. Walker 11

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 05:18 PM

Nets+6 -104 (pinnacle) (risking 1.04x to win 1x)
Nets ml +215 (5dimes) (risking 0.25x to win 0.54x)

Realised when i put the ml bet in i coulda got -102 at 5D.. anyway...

**freeeze** · 01-08-14, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Seto

They are clowns. Thankfully my other (and bigger) plays did well so it's all ok. Just never enjoy losing money even if I'm already 16-0 that night.

I actually kinda have a lean on Suns+8. The thing is they have blatantly overachieved but until they start proper freefalling they are still tempting against an (in my mind, many will disagree) overrated Wolves team as a big dog in an ESPN game. That said I'm not sure I'm playing it, the Suns freefall could have already started last night tbh. They are due a regression.

Yeah, my other plays on the Kings and the Bulls came through so it was a winning night for me too, still pissed about that offensive board after the free throw, though.

Minny lacks good rim protection and outside shooting, so I'm not a big fan either, but they've been good for me in certain spots and tonight is a good one for them imo.

I see a big RLM on the Dallas line, also. Books expecting that the Spurs are going to rest players ?

**jumpshotisking** · 01-08-14, 09:56 PM

plenty of doubtful calls at the end to help Brooklyn get the W. not over 100%, hope I didn't jinx the ML play.

ended up going with the clippers like you, already looking at them fridag vs lakers too.

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by jumpshotisking

plenty of doubtful calls at the end to help Brooklyn get the W. not over 100%, hope I didn't jinx the ML play.

ended up going with the clippers like you, already looking at them fridag vs lakers too.

didn't watch a single second was at mavs/spurs game. thank goodness i didn't come to the us just for nba coz both games i attended were awful and one loss by my team... back in london on friday.. will finally be able to access bwin, marathon etc again.

good that it hit tho. hopefully clippers come through.

**Seto** · 01-08-14, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by freeeze

Yeah, my other plays on the Kings and the Bulls came through so it was a winning night for me too, still pissed about that offensive board after the free throw, though.

Minny lacks good rim protection and outside shooting, so I'm not a big fan either, but they've been good for me in certain spots and tonight is a good one for them imo.

I see a big RLM on the Dallas line, also. Books expecting that the Spurs are going to rest players ?

I'm really not a big Rubio guy at all, Brewer is NOT a starting calibre NBA player on a good team, K-Mart doesn't do anything but score (literally), and their bench sucks. Good starting frontcourt though.

I kinda liked Spurs but not that much and didn't want to fade Mavs attending my first ever game.

**Seto** · 01-09-14, 12:14 AM

Mad at myself for not going with my Suns lean. The Wolves are frauds as I've been saying for a month or so.

**Seto** · 01-09-14, 01:06 AM

Today: 2-1, -0.11x
Total: 126-102-1, +89.71x

Meh. Not thrilled with some of the calls towards the end of the Clipper game but I don't really feel like bitching about it. It wasn't really a great play tbh. Mad at myself for missing out on PHX and making this my largest play of the night. Oh well. Not THAT bad.

**DOM-Ganador** · 01-09-14, 12:21 PM

PHX +8 looked too good to be true. Usually those lines that jump out at me makes me wonder what I am missing so I tend to look for a
reason to bet the other way. last night was a no bet for me.

Good solid run.Keep it going.

**Seto** · 01-09-14, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

PHX +8 looked too good to be true. Usually those lines that jump out at me makes me wonder what I am missing so I tend to look for a
reason to bet the other way. last night was a no bet for me.

Good solid run.Keep it going.

Bledsoe out, playing on a back to back, bad loss to a Bulls team without Boozer and Deng.. Sounded about right to me, maybe 7.

Thanks

**Seto** · 01-09-14, 05:18 PM

Nuggets+3.5 -108 (pinnacle) (risking 1.08x to win 1x)

Tomorrow

Grizzlies-2.5 -108 (pinnacle) (risking 5.4x to win 5x)

**jumpshotisking** · 01-09-14, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Seto

didn't watch a single second was at mavs/spurs game. thank goodness i didn't come to the us just for nba coz both games i attended were awful and one loss by my team.

sounds like a nice trip despite the loss and quality of entertainment. hard to get "lucky" and catch a memorable game during regular season, when you come overseas not having ball as your number one agenda. tried myself and didn't work out perfectly, but still a great experience.

about to look at tomorrows big board and get some numbers in before looking at pinny. guess I'll use the grizz line as my standpoint -.-

gl tonight

**Seto** · 01-10-14, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by jumpshotisking

sounds like a nice trip despite the loss and quality of entertainment. hard to get "lucky" and catch a memorable game during regular season, when you come overseas not having ball as your number one agenda. tried myself and didn't work out perfectly, but still a great experience.

about to look at tomorrows big board and get some numbers in before looking at pinny. guess I'll use the grizz line as my standpoint -.-

gl tonight

was a nice trip but yeah, 2 disappointing games. CP3 injury killed the first one, and now i'm going to the one game us english get a year next week (nets/hawks) and d-will might miss out.. smh and missing out on those 2 guys.

i'd def rather go for playoffs, i probably will too.