The JM "Chase system" $1000 bank roll

[Cheme82]

Ok guys so Detroit got it done in Hockey, that brings it to 3-0 all wins on A bets. Next play is tomorrow on Vancouver visiting Gretzky's Coyotes, they are at -160 and I already locked my bet.

The Clippers showed once again they have no heart as they got outscored by 22 in the second half. We'll have to try them again on Sunday when they visit Toronto. Toronto totally destroyed the Clippers back in LA on 12/22 (102-89) as 2.5 underdogs. I expect a line of around 8 points for the Clippers so with the point-buying we should be able to get double digits. Hopefully somebody reminds them how they got embarassed by a less-than-stellar team at home and they show up.

On related news, my big bet of the day on Michigan State missed by 1 point since they only won by 15. That's back-to-back bullshit beats since I lost on Gonzaga by a half point yesterday. Hopefully I'll get some better luck over the weekend.

Lakers are a play tomorrow. Took them -0.5 with the 3-point buy. Get on them early because it's gonna go up. They are starting a 7-game road trip series so we'll have 2-series to play on them.

Anybody in Houston? Playing at the Black-Top battle basketball tournament at the Toyota Center this weekend, maybe I'll see you there.

[mcbain]

I expect a line of around 8 points for the Clippers so with the point-buying we should be able to get double digits. Hopefully somebody reminds them how they got embarassed by a less-than-stellar team at home and they show up.

cheme: I agree the Clippers have no heart, but I can't agree on your speculative line. The Raptors are brutal too! I would be thrilled if we got 7 or 8 AFTER buying the 3 pts. in this game. I don't think there is any way the line opens at 8.

Remember, they only opened at +7 vs. the Pistons, and I know the Pistons have injuries but they are still far superior to the Raps.

Positive side, so far so good in NHL, maybe we cooked this up at a good time. Can't argue with 3 A bet victories...I'm sure we'll have to make a B bet sometime, but hopefully no Cs.

[Shortstop]

How did the Clippers do tonight?

You're all still like 79-0 though, right?

I'm still waiting for my e-mail with all the free picks. What's the delay?

[whatisit]

^^34 pages and you still don't know how this system works...

[Shortstop]

Where's my e-mail? I paid for my picks. This isn't a scam is it? I thought the Clippers were supposed to cover tonight? I even bought points god damn it! What the fvck?

[obamaismyuncle]

Where's my e-mail? I paid for my picks. This isn't a scam is it? I thought the Clippers were supposed to cover tonight? I even bought points god damn it! What the fvck?

First problem is paying for picks. Second, no way were the Clipper's gonna cover tonight. I myself rolled with Detroit -6.5, and crushed tonight. Quit paying for picks in all this system bullshit.

[obamaismyuncle]

Message me, I'm rather successful, I will give you my picks for free. Feel free to check my track record.

[Vincepcion]

Where's my e-mail? I paid for my picks. This isn't a scam is it? I thought the Clippers were supposed to cover tonight? I even bought points god damn it! What the fvck?

I really dont know why you troll this thread
You probably don't know how the system works

[Syrax]

I really dont know why you troll this thread
You probably don't know how the system works

Doesn't sound like it

[sportsbetwin]

I just got a message that betjamaica put a limit on how many points i can buy. I am now only allowed to buy 1 point?
Has anyone else had a problem like that?

I'm not surprised. People on here go on about how great Bet Jam is. About how great their customer service is. I have never been able to get onto Bet Jam live help ever and they are very slack at returning emails. I have found matchbook crap as well for customer service.

I use Bet Jam only for the 3 points. Im not betting big enough to be on their radar but I have heard similar stories. And don't think BetUs wouldnt do worse.

Pinnacle and the Australian books (including betfair which is also reg in Aust) are the only ones I really trust.

[Shortstop]

Put in a complaint to SBR. Hopefully they will help you.

[bolekblues]

It would probably be wise to wait for the moneyline to appear and wager Lakers ML (it has not yet appeared at BetUS) since it should be just about -170 and you have a one point cushion compared to -4, unless bookies inflates it again and put it at -200 or sth like this.

[Shortstop]

Is Lakers the pick? I didn't get an e-mail yet. I hope this isn't a repeat of the Clippers pick last night.

[brooks85]

Why are people even talking about paying for picks?

[mixpicks]

Is Lakers the pick? I didn't get an e-mail yet. I hope this isn't a repeat of the Clippers pick last night.

WOW, That's Cool, You Sound Exactly, What your Advitar Looks like. lastthing, No One Here should even acknowledge these type of statments, "ooohh I was On Det and Crushed" another childish statement,Do Not address.

[mixpicks]

hey, to the paying guys, go to the website, (using your url)and get the play there Only.
I noticed some people have the wrong plays. Check 1ststr8 from the site...
because Lakers Is Not Listed for 3/21/09

[bobby heenan]

Ok guys so Detroit got it done in Hockey, that brings it to 3-0 all wins on A bets. Next play is tomorrow on Vancouver visiting Gretzky's Coyotes, they are at -160 and I already locked my bet.

The Clippers showed once again they have no heart as they got outscored by 22 in the second half. We'll have to try them again on Sunday when they visit Toronto. Toronto totally destroyed the Clippers back in LA on 12/22 (102-89) as 2.5 underdogs. I expect a line of around 8 points for the Clippers so with the point-buying we should be able to get double digits. Hopefully somebody reminds them how they got embarassed by a less-than-stellar team at home and they show up.

On related news, my big bet of the day on Michigan State missed by 1 point since they only won by 15. That's back-to-back bullshit beats since I lost on Gonzaga by a half point yesterday. Hopefully I'll get some better luck over the weekend.

Lakers are a play tomorrow. Took them -0.5 with the 3-point buy. Get on them early because it's gonna go up. They are starting a 7-game road trip series so we'll have 2-series to play on them.

Anybody in Houston? Playing at the Black-Top battle basketball tournament at the Toyota Center this weekend, maybe I'll see you there.

i lost that zaga game too...by a half a point...and lost baylor against georgetown the other night too...by a half a point.....lost a 10 team money line parlay last night, that woulda paid off huge, because the ****in knicks decided to get absolutely worked at home by the ****in kings! was gonna get on mich st. yesterday too....was gettin em at 15.5....glad i didnt....oh well

[obamaismyuncle]

What is wrong with you people who pay for pick's? I mean take and cold hard look at it. Are you unable to create your own opinion, that you will pay for someone else's? Paying for picks, LMAO.

[MadStu]

hey, to the paying guys, go to the website, (using your url)and get the play there Only.
I noticed some people have the wrong plays. Check 1ststr8 from the site...
because Lakers Is Not Listed for 3/21/09

You're right. Lakers is the cartytay system game.

[obamaismyuncle]

WOW, That's Cool, You Sound Exactly, What your Advitar Looks like. lastthing, No One Here should even acknowledge these type of statments, "ooohh I was On Det and Crushed" another childish statement,Do Not address.

"No One Here should even acknowledge these type of statments, "ooohh I was On Det and Crushed". Why should this type of statement not be acknowledged? Because I didn"t pay for the pick? It was a true statement I bet alot of Detroit and won alot. Feel free to comb through my post history and you will be amazed of my accuracy, and I don't pay for picks. "Payin' for pick's". lol lol lol lol

[MadStu]

What is wrong with you people who pay for pick's? I mean take and cold hard look at it. Are you unable to create your own opinion, that you will pay for someone else's? Paying for picks, LMAO.

Hi obamaismyuncle,
Firstly, I have a lot of respect for you. You consistently seem to win and appreciate your feedback. But we're not paying for picks here. We're using a system.

In fact, the only thing some of us paid was the money for the system. A one off cost. But this system works!

Of course, nobody needs to pay for the system now because we have it, it's details are published in this very thread. So anybody can do the same thing as us.

But nobody here is paying for picks. Shortstop is the only person here who has suggested it (again and again) and he is wrong. The system works though

You can see from this thread though that we also use cartytay's variation of the system - again, we didn't pay for that. And we've just started testing mcbain's nhl system. Once again, not paid for.

We're all doing it to make money - just as you are - and we're doing just that.

I don't see the point in discussing it further though. I've said my piece. Shortstop is on my ignore list as he rarely has anything worthwhile or intelligent for me to read and is simply a pest - not just in this thread.

Let's get back to making some money

[mixpicks]

Paying for goods and ervices is Capitalism. I can (anyone can) say, Pick stocks/funds etc. but that smart people HIRE a Broker/Professional, I can also do my Taxes, but my CPA gets me more back & more deductions, So I pay Him. I can also roll paint on my walls, but I choice to Hire a painter, so I can dedicate that time to my business, where I Charge My Clients. The List Goes On and On... Plus you know this JM system is only like $150 Bucks for a life time of plays, to me it's just another otion, just something, to add to the Gambling Portfolio... As for the DET play, that's great for you, but instead of the childish statement, Why, becaus U Don't say, why you come up with that Play, did you quess, was there RLM, was it stats, Was it a Steam Move,or smart Money, but I quess you wouldn;t know If it was smart or steam because, Is it true, you don't feel you should Pay For Anything plays or Info? Even to get acuarate line moves etc.. you need to pay for a RELIABLE Info. SI is good but, to watch the Market % realtime line no of bets etc... but again Have To Pay. Personally, I look/capp. Every singal game I play, Only because I return consistnt profits I do 90% myself, but If I didn't get Returns. I'd be Happy to Hire someone, and give a %of the Prceeds they Earn Me.
Anyway, BOL To ALL...
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continue to help each other.

[obamaismyuncle]

Hi obamaismyuncle,
Firstly, I have a lot of respect for you. You consistently seem to win and appreciate your feedback. But we're not paying for picks here. We're using a system.

In fact, the only thing some of us paid was the money for the system. A one off cost. But this system works!

Of course, nobody needs to pay for the system now because we have it, it's details are published in this very thread. So anybody can do the same thing as us.

But nobody here is paying for picks. Shortstop is the only person here who has suggested it (again and again) and he is wrong. The system works though

You can see from this thread though that we also use cartytay's variation of the system - again, we didn't pay for that. And we've just started testing mcbain's nhl system. Once again, not paid for.

We're all doing it to make money - just as you are - and we're doing just that.

I don't see the point in discussing it further though. I've said my piece. Shortstop is on my ignore list as he rarely has anything worthwhile or intelligent for me to read and is simply a pest - not just in this thread.

Let's get back to making some money

Maybe I misunderstood the system, paying for someone else to pick the games just blows my mind. I'm dam successful at picking games, and its just me myself gathering info and comming up with an opinion. Nonetheless we are all here to make money, so BOL to you.

[obamaismyuncle]

Paying for goods and ervices is Capitalism. I can (anyone can) say, Pick stocks/funds etc. but that smart people HIRE a Broker/Professional, I can also do my Taxes, but my CPA gets me more back & more deductions, So I pay Him. I can also roll paint on my walls, but I choice to Hire a painter, so I can dedicate that time to my business, where I Charge My Clients. The List Goes On and On... Plus you know this JM system is only like $150 Bucks for a life time of plays, to me it's just another otion, just something, to add to the Gambling Portfolio... As for the DET play, that's great for you, but instead of the childish statement, Why, becaus U Don't say, why you come up with that Play, did you quess, was there RLM, was it stats, Was it a Steam Move,or smart Money, but I quess you wouldn;t know If it was smart or steam because, Is it true, you don't feel you should Pay For Anything plays or Info? Even to get acuarate line moves etc.. you need to pay for a RELIABLE Info. SI is good but, to watch the Market % realtime line no of bets etc... but again Have To Pay. Personally, I look/capp. Every singal game I play, Only because I return consistnt profits I do 90% myself, but If I didn't get Returns. I'd be Happy to Hire someone, and give a %of the Prceeds they Earn Me.
Anyway, BOL To ALL...
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continue to help each other.

I came up with the Detroit -6.5 and Dallas +1 yesterday by gathering information and forming an opinion, me, myself, and I. Much like my picks today, already off to an amazing start. I can understand paying for advice in other forms, but not in sportsbetting. I think you have to be a sports fan first and foremost, and be able to form your own opinions.

[MadStu]

Yeah, to be honest, I'm not a sports fan, nor am I in the US so haven't got the first clue when it comes to basketball.

I just want to make money, and found this system, which is based on teams playing away games. So it's easy for me to find the teams which match the criteria of the system.

[netinfo]

Shortstop,

The Clippers lost bet A yesterday, but have not lost the series yet. They are bet B tomorrow at Toronto. If they lose at Toronto, then they are bet C on Monday at Boston.

If they lose bet C, then they lose the series, and it gets recorded as a series loss in JM's series record. Bet C is the bet with the largest amount of money on it, because it tries to recover the risk loss from bet A, bet B, and the profit loss from bet A.

So, if you want to follow the system, then tomorrow, you make a bet B on the Clippers. Bet B is larger than bet A, because this bet is when you try to recover the risk loss from bet A, and the profit loss from bet A.

netinfo

[netinfo]

obamaismyuncle,

I posted this message earlier in this thread, in regards the difference between a picks seller (not JM) versus a system seller (JM):

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JM is a system sellor, not a picks sellor.

A picks sellor is when you pay monthly fees for monthly picks, and where you have no idea how the picks are being chosen. You rely the whole time on the handicapping skills of the picks seller, and when the seller dies, you're picks die, because you have no idea how to generate them yourself.

JM sells a system, whereby you learn how to generate the picks yourself by following the rules of the system. If JM dies, you will continue on your own to generate the same picks. Now, an added benefit of this system is that while JM is alive, he will email you the picks as a reminder to bet them. But you know ahead of time what the picks will be.
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netinfo

[netinfo]

For those who may still be confused in regards the Lakers today, the Lakers are not a JM system play. They are a Cartytay system play.

For those who may still be confused in regards the difference between JM and Cartytay:

First,

JM: Play three road games in which your team plays teams in only the opposite conference. This is the conference filter.

Cartytay: Play three road games in which your team plays teams in whichever conference, meaning, whether the same or opposite conference does not matter. There is no conference filter.

Second,

JM: Do not play if your team has a significant injured player (at least a 15 point player). This is the injuries filter.

Cartytay: Play even if your team has a significant injured player. There is no injuries filter.

Third,

JM: Do not play if your team has the best or worst road record. This is the records filter.

Cartytay: play even if your team has the best or worst road record. There is no records filter.


For those who may not know where to look for the schedules of the NBA teams, google the team name with "schedule" and the link should come up for you. For example, google: "Lakers schedule".

For those who may not know where to look for the records of the NBA teams, google: "NBA standings".

For those who may not know where to look for injury reports of the NBA teams, google: "NBA injuries".

Take care,

netinfo

[alid]

truth

For those who may still be confused in regards the Lakers today, the Lakers are not a JM system play. They are a Cartytay system play.

For those who may still be confused in regards the difference between JM and Cartytay:

First,

JM: Play three road games in which your team plays teams in only the opposite conference. This is the conference filter.

Cartytay: Play three road games in which your team plays teams in whichever conference, meaning, whether the same or opposite conference does not matter. There is no conference filter.

Second,

JM: Do not play if your team has a significant injured player (at least a 15 point player). This is the injuries filter.

Cartytay: Play even if your team has a significant injured player. There is no injuries filter.

Third,

JM: Do not play if your team has the best or worst road record. This is the records filter.

Cartytay: play even if your team has the best or worst road record. There is no records filter.


For those who may not know where to look for the schedules of the NBA teams, google the team name with "schedule" and the link should come up for you. For example, google: "Lakers schedule".

For those who may not know where to look for the records of the NBA teams, google: "NBA standings".

For those who may not know where to look for injury reports of the NBA teams, google: "NBA injuries".

Take care,

netinfo

thanks netinfo you forgot to say cartysay is transparent and truthful jm will bend a little to look better than he is......ie..sent selections the say no bet if the series looses (series one this year)....a push is a win???...and always gets the best spread on offer (not possible)....but in saying that its still more than i have...cheers

[netinfo]

thanks netinfo you forgot to say cartysay is transparent and truthful jm will bend a little to look better than he is......ie..sent selections the say no bet if the series looses (series one this year)....a push is a win???...and always gets the best spread on offer (not possible)....but in saying that its still more than i have...cheers

alid,

Cartytay is truthful because he plays exactly in accordance with his system, and we can verify his system more easily because it has no filters.

Whether JM plays his system in exactly the way it is designed is another question. This is a question of JM's marketing practices. I prefer to neither call JM a truthful marketer nor a deceptive marketer. Others can make this determination. My concern is the system itself, and the system is brilliant when played exactly in accordance with its design.

With regards to the 1st series of this year, since JM emailed it as a play, then it should be counted as a series loss in his series record. Sometimes I read that the Kings had the worst pre-season road record, but that's not true. Their pre-season road record was 0 - 4. The Bobcats had the worst pre-season road record at 0 - 6.

Prior to the beginning of the Kings series A bet play on 10/31, they were 0 - 5 in road record (if you combine pre-season with regular season). The Bobcats' road record, however, was worse at 0 - 7 (if you combine pre-season with regular season).

So, there is no excuse to exclude the Sacramento series loss from the JM record based on the road record filter. This filter was not applicable to the Kings series. The series was a system play.

With regards to a push:

I consider a push on an A bet as neither a series win nor a series loss if we do not go on to a B bet.
I consider a push on a B bet as a series loss if we do not go on to a C bet.
I consider a push on a C bet as a series loss.

If JM does not consider the above with regards to pushes, then he is mistaken on this.

With regards to the spread lines, JM does not tell us what spread he is using. I think he should do so in order for the members to get the correct spread. In any case, I recommend that all members to shop around for the best books in order to get the best possible line on any JM system play.

netinfo

[obamaismyuncle]

More power to you guys if you are winning lots of money with all this system stuff. I think the whole system thing sounds as phony as it gets. Just my opinion of course.

[therber2]

JM already said go lighter on the rest of the series, and he posted the series as well as the system. Stop saying he is a liar. These are two different excellent systems, plain and simple. I would suggest strictly playing them or using them as some sort of filter for picks of your own!

[netinfo]

obamaismyuncle,

In less than 2 months, I have already doubled my small bankroll by using this JM system, and it's variation, the Cartytay system, so I'm happy with it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions

netinfo

[obamaismyuncle]

obamaismyuncle,

In less than 2 months, I have already doubled my small bankroll by using this JM system, and it's variation, the Cartytay system, so I'm happy with it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions

netinfo

How small was the bankroll you doubled in 2 months? And also, how much does the "JM System" cost to get enroled in?

[therber2]

For those who may still be confused in regards the Lakers today, the Lakers are not a JM system play. They are a Cartytay system play.

For those who may still be confused in regards the difference between JM and Cartytay:

First,

JM: Play three road games in which your team plays teams in only the opposite conference. This is the conference filter.

Cartytay: Play three road games in which your team plays teams in whichever conference, meaning, whether the same or opposite conference does not matter. There is no conference filter.

Second,

JM: Do not play if your team has a significant injured player (at least a 15 point player). This is the injuries filter.

Cartytay: Play even if your team has a significant injured player. There is no injuries filter.

Third,

JM: Do not play if your team has the best or worst road record. This is the records filter.

Cartytay: play even if your team has the best or worst road record. There is no records filter.


For those who may not know where to look for the schedules of the NBA teams, google the team name with "schedule" and the link should come up for you. For example, google: "Lakers schedule".

For those who may not know where to look for the records of the NBA teams, google: "NBA standings".

For those who may not know where to look for injury reports of the NBA teams, google: "NBA injuries".

Take care,

netinfo

Netinfo,

Is it 3 game road trip (as opposed to a 4,5,6 game trip)? JM plays 3 or more game trips that have 3 opposite conference games (they CAN be 3 day trips of course). This is the fundamental difference. I am assuming Cartytay is just 3 day no more no less road trips (Banking on at least 1 ATS victory).

Two things you left out: JM uses general RPI filtering (Relative Percentage Index) Not just best road, worst road. Usually, what is filtered out is top four and bottom four.

Second thing is: JM always buys points for every play. Does the Carty system?

Thanks for the write up Net.