I'm gonna play Clippers on Bet C. They will have a huge start. +14?
JM bet C plus point shaving bet opportunity coincide.
JM bet C plus point shaving bet opportunity coincide.
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I might wager a c bet if the bookmakers offer a good handicap, may cut my losses at the bet b loss though not sure which way i will go.Originally posted by sportsbetwinComment -
Ok so tomorrow @ Boston it is.
The thing that scares me is that these ****s actually beat the Celtics in LA less than a month ago, granted Garnett didn't play but still, they were 10 point underdogs.
Garnett is playing limited minutes and even though Boston seems to get every call at the garden they are 17-17 ATS at home this year. Let's hope they have mercy on the Clipps and win by less than 20.
Time to bring out the big gun guys, don't be scared. It hasn't failed us yet. If anything, I'm glad they got destroyed at Toronto instead of failing to cover by a basket, hopefully that and the fact that Boston is a little hot right now that Garnett came back (victories over Miami, @ SA, and by 18 points @ Memphis) gives us a juicy spread on the high teens that gets us over 20 with the point buy.
Good luck.Comment -
I'll make the C bet if the Clips are getting 46 1/2 or more.
Letting the Craptors pound them like that wants to make me cut and run. 
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I'd recommend going a little heavier on GSW or something else to hedge, and play the C with Boston, buy the points again, but I would probably put the same amount as the B on LaClips or less...just to cover the loss...or I just wouldn't play it at all. I'm not doing this series because as we all have noticed clips blow. To put it in numbers though, bottom 4 four on RPI list should all be filtered out. Today wasn't a play because clips are in the bottom four.
Tomorrow's "C" will be a straight coin toss.Comment -
again, the original pdf makes no mention of this.Originally posted by therber2Comment -
That RPI stuff is for the MLB system. Only NBA filter I've heard of is the best and worst road teams due to inflated lines/suckiness.Comment -
thats correct....Comment -
I have my cash in BetUs and I think they are licking their chops for the Clippers C bet. I think they will break out the razor for a really close shave on this game ! If if doesn't open at +17 I'll invest in a twelve pack instead.Comment -
have u ever cashed from betus?
how did it go if u did?Comment -
Yeah, I cashed. I requested $300 on a Saturday, was sent via international payment and cleared in my account by the Wednesday. Pretty good, but they only sent me $256 or something. I sent them a few messages and they credited the rest back to my betting account eventually. I only ever deposited $50 into the account and I'm never going to reload with them. I'll still play with their money though and when it gets up high again I'll withdraw again. It's just fun money with them though, so don't care if I lose it to be honest. Would be nice to get it up real high and squeeze them some more though
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Hey Dex. There have been amendments; RPI being one of them. For some C will be a play tomorrow. For me no. Maybe a tease with something else. If you go and backtest the system with the RPI filter the outcome is much better! Traditional ****************** pdf, will produce pretty decent results as well. I would just suggest using this general system along with your own filters, and share them if you find something that works well!Originally posted by Dexter
Anyways, Cartytay. Your GSW bet cashed! I went in on that; congrats! Tomorrow, no LAC for me; or at least light, if things look good + a tease.Comment -
probably a good idea. Who thinks vegas catches onto this? Conspiracy theory I say. I've never noticed a line being way off for a C.Originally posted by Hard10Comment -
guys don't even play that C bet, I saw BetUS screwed a guy already this year on a C bet ... I'm gonna post it in a minuteComment -
It was the "C" bet on Toronto when they came here to play the Rockets. I had a huge play on that game and Toronto lost by 10. The guy lost because he took +9.5 even after the 3-point buy at BETUS which sucks because I didn't see that line lower than 8 anywhere else.
Anyway, tomorrow is another big bet for me hoping to get my money back and the profit from the LAC series. Good luck to the ones with the balls to play that game. Everyone is scared Boston will destroy them by like 40 points. I think the Clips cash the ticket, hopefully the minute mixing now that Garnett is back helps us, and either Allen or Pierce has a bad night from the floor. We'll be ok
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Forgot to mention already locked "A" bets on:
Min +14.5
Den +6.5
Mem +12
Bet you they all hit
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Originally posted by jsmithj88
I have cashed a number of times...and mostly not much trouble. Had a bit of a hassle a couple of months ago but for the most part they pay in a decent amount of time, but their fees piss me off.
They without a doubt create tougher lines for the JM System plays...they don't move the line just based on the money coming in....they START the line out with the JM System plays in mind, which can create a tough situation sometimes.
If BETUS were not so sticky with payouts at times they would be a GREAT sportsbook. But sometimes you get the feel they do not want to give you any money.
Yesterday I requested a payout and was told I could not get one because I had not met the rollover amount. Well the rollover amount was met months ago and the account showed it. And I KNOW the account manager knew this, he was just hoping I was some newbie that would accept that explanation.
After politely showing him I had met the rollover he made some excuse about the program not updating it!! LOL. Ya right.
You will get your money if you want it, just be firm and let them know you are not taking any crap.Comment -
Hey guys for those using the JM system, how many are using BETUS and how many are using other sportsbooks?
Im guessing the only reason to use BETUS is the ability to buy points but if we can get a better spread from other sportsbooks then why not change?? Just a thought.
Im with BETUS but i hear that others are using JM system with other sportsbooks??????Comment -
As a newbie I started with BetUS. Tha account is still open, but I also now have accounts with Pinnacle, Bookmaker, Sportsbook, BetJM and BetED. All works for buying points, except Bookmaker only allows you to buy 2 points, and the other guy said that BetJM has removed his ability to buy 3 points because he kept winning.
Take your pick.Comment -
Congrats to those who cashed in on GSW, though it was a close one and they were behind by as much as almost 30points in the third. Luckily, they made a late run.Comment -
Madstu - thanks for the reply i appreciate it. Ill have a think about it. May just transfer my money from BETUS to netteller and then to another book.
Hmmmm im thinking of betting the Clippers anyway - big risk but bugger it might as well go for it. Thinking ill make a smaller bet just for Boston for the win too. Double pay lolComment -
I was reading over some of Morrison's pages today and ran across his sportsbooks recommendations page. Apparently Morrison himself has the same problem with betjm.Originally posted by JaarelComment -
My pick for Monday 23rd March (NCAA) Kentucky @ Creighton - Creighton -2Comment -
Jaarel, thanks for the horse racing system. What bookie do you use when placing your bets or do you use the USA tote place odds. I'll be using betfair myself but the odds are low when doing place bets only. An example today in a race at Wolves in England the favourite is just under even money to win and 1.14 to place so if you put €10 to win you only get back €11.14, I know sometimes the odds are higher but rarely above 1.9 to place for hot favourites.
Sorry for hijacking the thread, hopefully the Clippers can pull a rabbit out of the hat tonight.
I'm from Ireland by the way so will doing my horse racing bets from racing in the UK and Ireland.Comment -
As I've mentioned 100000 times - You MUST add a few filters as I've suggested (including eliminating bottom 4 RPI). a. for your sanity and b. to save $$. My point once again since posting is to show you guys that this system presents amazing opportunities to make $$ HOWEVER you can't follow the PDF blindly. If you do there will be 2 or 3 system losses. Be careful.
Also - Why are you guys still using BetUS? Several people have gotten screwed and have posted here. Get out and use a better book.
**Since many of you are new and confused... I worked for JM for a long time - I don't anymore - I am not JM himself.**Comment -
Hey Kilkenny im from Australia so ill either use Sportingbet or TAB to place. Yeah sometimes the favorites odds are bad and not good for much profit but usually you should be able to get 1.50 to 1.60 for a place. Over time if played right i can see that it could become very profitable.
Ok guys im off to bed i still have a few systems to send to those that have asked so ill send them tomorrow. Gotta get up at like 2am here to place the Clippers bet anyway dammit lolComment -
Geesh so what happens if bet C losses, so is that it for everyone? I mean it still made a big profit over the season. I dont use BETUS I buy 2 somewhere else.
Question: do the clippers fall under that filter of the bottom 4 rpi's?
We all know it HAS to go to bet C sometime and we all know that NO system is a 100%.
So its a gamble no pun intended, its a 3 step system if you dont go all three than you have an automatic loss. If you bet the C you the player have a chance to recoup your losses.. up to the player at this point. But we all knew the risk when we started with bet A, its not a two step its a three step. So dont critiize the system until we cycle through it.Comment -
Trouble in Paradise.Originally posted by eyeball
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yeah, no C bet for the clips for me - gonna eat my 5 unit loss.Comment -
Eyeball:
Yes the Clippers fall into that filter of bottom 4 RPI's.
Im not even sure what the RPI is, but I usually filter out the worst 6 or so teams in the league.
It's much better to skip a series on a bad team then suffer a system loss.
When a bad team is the system play, I'll usually skip game A and see what happens.
If they lose I'll put a small wager on games B and C (if needed).
The small wager on game B will still be much less then what I would bet on a good team game A.
People should look to weigh the size of their bets based on the winning percentage of the team and not follow the system blindly. Just my thoughts. I would hate to see people lose alot of money on a crap team like the Clippers. The system works great, just be smart about who your betting on.
That being said I'll take the Clippers tonight as a small play so BOL. It is after all a game C.Comment -
Million2zone
That might be a smart move maybe hedge your bet and try to get lets say 2 units back or 2.5 units maybe?
The thing is that this so unpredictable I mean the worse team in the league has covered many times against the better team..who knows?
Actually I dont really underdstand why the JM system works to begin with other than than teams have a "let down" against the road team of the other conference. But that should be factored into the spread.Comment -
Your right, it is unpredictable who will cover, in what game, and will they need the +3 points.
My point is that it is usually the "bad" teams that will go to game C or lose as a system play.
This year there have been 6 game C bets (SAC, GSW, TOR (twice), CHA, and BOS) and Boston at the time had the best record in the league so were filtered out as a play.
This is my second year with this system, I am playing conservatively, but have been very successful.
This system is unpredictable but may have certain tendencies. It seems the "good teams" generally cover in the first two games, so this is where I make most of my money. It's not worth the heartache taking these marginal teams.
These tendencies I have only noticed for this season, anyone else have info about previous seasons?
Who were the teams that lost as a system play in previous years?Comment -
Hey guys anyone else made the C bet for the Clippers. I am only with BETUS at the moment so dont have a choice but personally i actually brought 3.5 points instead of just the 3. Not as good as a margin but hopefully it will make all the difference.
Also placed the A bets on Minnesota, Denver and Memphis.
Im praying these will all hit. I didnt bet conservatively this time and a HUGE part of my bankroll is on these bets. *GULP*Comment -
Jaarel..so what spread did you get with the +3.5?
I took it somewhere Not BETUS at 18 1/2Comment -
Eyeball pretty sure i got it to +18 with the +3.5. Its the onyl sportsbook i have funds in at present so not much of a choice really.Comment
