Leans for Sunday 1/18/09 Day 2 CK vs. hockeytown11

Dexter · 01-18-09, 12:17 AM

get a few write up's in before the pc gets hauled off.

the cards were no match for the eagles in philly on thanksgiving night, but this game should be much different in arizona. the cards are clearly a much better home than road team (6-3ats) and they are actually catching 4. the line is currently doing what it should with the public on the eagles at 60% - bottom line, i trust warner>mcnabb (1-4 in nfc championship games) in the big game.

-cards (big)
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my early lean was on the steelers, but i think the ravens may have something special here in joe flacco - he is the first rookie qb to win 2 playoff games (and they've been on the road). granted, its the defense winning for balt, but flacco is playing like a veteran and doing what is asked by a very smart coaching staff - these are just too many points to pass up imo for a ravens team that has gone 8-2 ats on the road (7-3 ats as a dog) - the ravens lost by 3 earlier in the year at pitt, and a similar close game should result.

-ravens
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in case i dont get back on until tue morning, i will be playing the celts heavy on monday. the suns will be on a btb and playing their 4th game in 5 nights (a rarity in the nba - pistons couldnt handle that situation tonight).

-celts (big) 1/18
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texhooper · 01-18-09, 12:28 AM

dex, are you sitting out on the upcoming phoenix leg of the morrison system? cuz if they don't get the job done against the raptors tomorrow night, a chase on monday will be in order. so i guess you would buy the points on phoenix and play both sides accordingly and pray for a middle? or are you confident enough in the boston pick to just not chase and instead make up for any losses on the suns tomorrow with boston -whatever on monday? of course, this might not end up being a factor this time, but it could easily happen in the future, and i'm sure you've thought about it. i'm just curious if you've thought about your approach should this happen.

nonsense48 · 01-18-09, 12:36 AM

DEX, good luck my friend and we'll type to you soon.

Dexter · 01-18-09, 12:38 AM

i am fully onboard with the chase system, and i am doing it at a 2 pt buy for each game. ive won already with the bucks and spurs series. just no need for me to post that. that is what it is for me - a side account that i just bang out what i'm told. no thought, hesitation - therefore no mention of it in my plays. my plays go ahead as planned when i go big - but i have a lot more going on the morrison system - i just look at it as a small hedge..

so yeah, monday i may have both sides but more riding on the suns. doesnt change the fact that i myself love the celts on monday. i enjoy handicapping games, but also taking easy money

yes, a middle would be sweet. i dont anticipate going opposite my morrison plays too often, but i cant pass on the celts when catching a team 4 in 5. so i'll mention my play now (boston/heavy), but of course will have bet B going on phx if necessary.

nonsense48 · 01-18-09, 12:42 AM

and you do your thing very well DEX

peetlui · 01-18-09, 12:52 AM

Miami will be playing their 7th road game tomorrow. Granted they'll be playing OKC but the Thunder have been plating well as of late going 5-0 ats out of their last 5 and going 9-0 ats their last 9 at home. Miami has been playing tough lately and imo it's probably wearing on them. There may also be the "looking ahead" factor in play here as their next two games will be against the Celtics and the Magic. I like the Thunder in this game but please feel free to dissuade me.

texhooper · 01-18-09, 12:53 AM

that makes sense. i just jumped on board as well, and won off those two series also. when i get enough money rolling i'm gonna break off an account just for the system. good plan. thanks, bro.

nonsense48 · 01-18-09, 01:05 AM

CK, think maybe old hockey bailed out? wonder where he's at with his picks.

nonsense48 · 01-18-09, 01:07 AM

ihad a great day at 7-2 today. makes me happy.

sportsgenius1 · 01-18-09, 01:16 AM

Steelers -$3000 ml

Wilforth · 01-18-09, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by peetlui

Miami will be playing their 7th road game tomorrow. Granted they'll be playing OKC but the Thunder have been plating well as of late going 5-0 ats out of their last 5 and going 9-0 ats their last 9 at home. Miami has been playing tough lately and imo it's probably wearing on them. There may also be the "looking ahead" factor in play here as their next two games will be against the Celtics and the Magic. I like the Thunder in this game but please feel free to dissuade me.

Don't be dissuaded. Your analysis of the game is great. Miami are road-weary and will be looking ahead to the Boston and Orlando games. OKC are well-rested and eager to win whatever can be won. Hunger counts a lot in sports. The same way LAC dispatched Milwaukee on Saturday is how OKC will take the heat off Miami. Ride OKC ML or pass.

AdaBarber · 01-18-09, 01:30 AM

Bet the Cards. U got 53 players and a coaching staff that feels disrespected. They can't run. They can't play D. The only reason they made it to the playoffs was because they won the weakest division in football. They imploded at the end. They can't play on the east coast.

Nothing more powerful than a locker room full of men who feel disrespected. It then becomes chemistry and a us against the world attitude. While Donovan and Andy think football is fun again.

I'll take a disrespected squad versus an "oh looky" squad any day. I think this is what everyone failed to see.

AdaBarber · 01-18-09, 01:31 AM

Dex, CK what is the Morrison system?

texhooper · 01-18-09, 01:39 AM

there's two threads about it-"you will love this thread" and i think it has been revamped in a new thread called something like "morrison chase system plays". read through "you will love this thread" first; there's a lot of good info in there from several people.

cocknocker · 01-18-09, 01:39 AM

I do have a lot of class. So in a way, I sort of am in a quandray... I love to see my brothers do well. At the same time I don't like to see an innocent person lose money due to our profiting from the information he supplied as a means of his craft....

I have been using the Morrison system for a couple of years now, but I never publicized it's inner workings because after a couple of emails between the founder and myself, he made it abundantly clear that he would like for it to remain a secret in order to continue making a business out of it.

What I see recently is that there is a lot of bootlegging being done on his science, and thereby cutting into his profits, which in a way, isn't too cool with me. There is a reason why I never responded to the questions about how the system works, only preferring instead to just play my plays mixed in with my own plays. I am very aware of the size of our underground movement, and it's appeal to the outside world. I have never been one to step on anyone's toes, or to infringe upon another's right to make a living or reap the benefits of his craft. I think that the shame of this whole thing is that others are prospering off of something that they aren't entitled to as they have not paid the tithe to have the priviledge to do so. I love JohnMorr08 for turning heads and putting his own personal spin on the science, and it goes without mention that he has been quite successful at it, as have all of the others who subscribed to the system. I just honestly feel that things were fine when the plays themselves were listed. But to share a trade secret that was built to profit for profit seems incorrect when it is spelled out to the detail for those who have not paid for the fellowship.

Meaning that if this were my system and I was charging for it, and I found out a guy had purchased it from me and then used it in a manner where he gave it away freely with great detail, I would not be happy if I saw that going on. Two months ago, a member from E-40's crew trashed a guys whole stash of burned cd's for distributing bootleg copies of his upcoming cd at a party for free. I completely understood. I feel that the priviledge of the benefits of this system should go to those who prove their sincerity in the form of renumeration to the author. What is going on is completely wrong. There's no two ways about it. And I want to be up front and make certain that you don't think that this is an attack upon your person JohnMorr08. It's far from that. I am so cool with you that you have no idea. I just wish that you had not detailed his work on your thread instead maybe having the inquisitors email you or something and then you refer them to Mr. Morrison, and get your cut from him for referring those people, which he is readily and capable of doing for you.

For example, I give away my tips on first inning run wagers for free because my objective is to share my science globally and astronomically. I am a witness. I am also the creator of this system. Because I am a mere witness, I can't charge you for that because it would make my point invalid if i were to seek you out to sell you something on SBR's site. But if I process what I am doing and sell it for profit, then I expect to be shown consideration and sincerity. I mean in a panaoramic manner Mr. Morrison and I have a different mission but similar goals. I think that those who are giving away his system without referring the inquisitor to him personally is basically taking food off of his family's plate. That's just my two cents. Let's go on business as usual. Just know where I stand on that subject. I still got love for ya bub!

peetlui · 01-18-09, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by Wilforth

Don't be dissuaded. Your analysis of the game is great. Miami are road-weary and will be looking ahead to the Boston and Orlando games. OKC are well-rested and eager to win whatever can be won. Hunger counts a lot in sports. The same way LAC dispatched Milwaukee on Saturday is how OKC will take the heat off Miami. Ride OKC ML or pass.

Thanks for the reinforcement. GL to you.

AdaBarber · 01-18-09, 01:44 AM

Thank u texhooper. And CK. Dogz, I totally agree with you on the subject. I just saw it mentioned a couple of times and I don't like reading something and not knowing what I am reading. And I asked. That is all.

cocknocker · 01-18-09, 01:50 AM

And just for the record, Jaymac asked me about the Bucks/Clippers game yesterday. I told him that if I had to do it, I would roll with the Clips because there's no such thing as free money in sports wagering. I guess that my advice paid off...

nonsense48,

I don't know what's up with our boy hockeytown11. I hate to win by default, but our guy better come up with some picks and rather quickly. He has to come up with 2 every day the nigh before. I may have busted him thinking about subscribing to a picks service. I have seen it done before when people have had to challenge me, so it wouldn't surprise me. I beat Steve Merril ahem I mean goinggone in a week match too. That guy was like 8-15 that week and I was 14-4. I've never lost a challenge and that is no lie. The only way to catch a person off guard is to mandate that they give their picks the night before while the lines are fresh, so that they can go trough what I go through having to handicap the games for myself with no help. it shows how difficult my job is. I don't really watch reverse movements too much. i cap a game, I check it's balance, then i roll with it. Sometimes I may change it if the line movement is too out of kilter, but hey, I have a responibility to our following to give them something to gnaw on and to think about overnight. It's not as easy as it looks. At the very least, the thread was a lot cleaner today as a result of his absence.

AdaBarber · 01-18-09, 01:54 AM

I just had a son Wednesday so I haven't been on as much until today. Man, what did I miss?

cocknocker · 01-18-09, 01:54 AM

AdaBarber,

I am not saying these comments to dissuade you. All that I am saying is that the best way to find out is to go online and ask the same question on your search engine. Pay the man, and then you will have the system all to yourself.

DevilDog · 01-18-09, 02:00 AM

Let me set you straight CK....you are WRONG. The Morrison system as far as the EAST-WEST system is well known by anyone that just wants to do a google search. Give me a f'n break dude. I am not exactly sure what system YOU are referring to, but if IT IS the EAST-WEST system your comments are way off base.

There is no way you can keep something like this a secret as far as how it works. NO WAY at all. Once things get in the public domain it is impossible to stop things like this.

And as far the real John Morrison, I have a friend that is convinced he bought the plays and the system and he is supposed to get plays emailed to him....and all he gets is a bunch of crap wanting him to sign up with BetUs.

And then he gets another email, supposedly from Morrison, wanting his BETUS account number so at the end of the year Morrison can share some of his profits with everyone! Are you f'n kidding me!!!???

So my point is this...when something this SIMPLE gets out into the domain you are going to have this happen and any person with an IQ of an ant knows this. I understand wanting to protect people and what they have developed but who knows who really develops what.

cocknocker · 01-18-09, 02:07 AM

Devil Dog you are entitled to have those feelings, your friend that you spoke of is qualified to have his feelings on the matter and I am qualifed as well to have mine. I think that you and I are grown and responsible enough to agree to disagree. Somehow I think that if you were in Mr. Morrison's shoes and we called this thing we're speaking of the "DevilDog System" you would feel differently. Now that's something that I would wager on even if it was -325

cocknocker · 01-18-09, 02:12 AM

I know that you would want every single penny that you were due for what you packaged, processed and sold. And I wouldn't fault you for that....I would love you for that. Why? Because it's the American way. Get paid for what you sell. Prostitute or business suit. Let me set you straight on that....

DevilDog · 01-18-09, 02:14 AM

It is honestly really hard to know who came up with this system. I have talked to guys that say they used a system like this 20 years ago!! So who knows. If Morrison wanted to protect this system he should have first of all sold it for much more and he should have patented it and trademarked it.

But who knows. Just my two cents.

heyheyhey · 01-18-09, 02:29 AM

never use a credit card to deposit into a jinky ass book, i just looked at my statement and got this note:

Note: This account is Temporarily Blocked until we complete verification. For questions, please call 1-800-642

and have this charge:
01/13/200998 CENTS STORE SANTA ANA CA
<REFERENCE 240******> $159.24 $267.41

funny cuz i live in minnesota and sucks because fraud dept. is closed right now...

ps. who spends 160$ at the dollar store?

BlazeHaze · 01-18-09, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by heyheyhey

never use a credit card to deposit into a jinky ass book, i just looked at my statement and got this note:

Note: This account is Temporarily Blocked until we complete verification. For questions, please call 1-800-642

and have this charge:
01/13/200998 CENTS STORE SANTA ANA CA
<REFERENCE 240******> $159.24 $267.41

funny cuz i live in minnesota and sucks because fraud dept. is closed right now...

ps. who spends 160$ at the dollar store?

yeah be careful with that s.hit brah.

cocknocker · 01-18-09, 02:45 AM

And you know what Devil Dog, you are correct. People HAVE been using this style of wagering for a long time. I heard about this style of wagering in my time, but no one ever suggested to buy three points to make your winning percentage better either. That part is his addition to the system. JohnMorr08 is proving that you only need to buy 1.5. Still he is a subsrcriber to the person who gave him the gift and the idea, so he is qualified to speak up on the results thereof and to add his own spin on the subject. So to am i as i am a subscriber as well. i am qualified to talk about the subject. I still get the emails.

Everyone knows that when you play teams that you aren't familiar with it is hard to guage what they are doing. All that it takes is to look at the baseball interleague results to know that. All that I am saying is that we know that the style has been around for a long time yet no one had the foresight to package and sell it. But to show you what kind of gentleman I am if for example you actually packaged this system and sold it, I would refer the 10,000 or so viewers who come to this thread to YOU so that YOU could get paid for the gift that YOU gave me. Out of the 10,000 or so viewers we get daily YOU can't tell me that if YOU were to benefit from my referrals to YOU that YOU would dislike me because of that potential business. Matter of fact, I think that YOU would give me a kick back because of that extra business. C'mon man, I know you feel me on that. I have no quarrel with you. You and I are in the same boat with paddles the same length. Just know that i would give you the love in reciprocation instead of giving away your love to those who did not genuinely earn it and facing the prospect of not sustaining the love and mutual fellowship that you forwarded to me. What's going on isn't right in my eyes.

cocknocker · 01-18-09, 03:02 AM

hockeytown11,

Your accountability is in question right now. I have stayed up waiting for you to answer the challenge, and you are failing to answer the call. I learned a long time ago that if you want to see what a loud talker is about, you simply challenge him and see what he is made of. You are figuring out what gambling service you can call in the morning right now, and that in its'self is a breach of confidence in you to come clean and play plays that are truly your own. What's so funny is that you are being so obvious with what you are doing. Look man, you lose by forfeit if you don't produce some picks for the board to see before 4:00am pst. You don't get the luxury of seeking outside help, buddy. I know that you lost money on your own today because you didn't play all of your games evenly. Now your heart is beating and you have to give some guy you don't know $25.00 or $50.00 a day to help you try to beat me while i keep on coming up with clean self researched picks. Look man, 4:00am pst. Most services are open for the public around 8:00am est. I won't let you get that opportunity. You have to do this man against man. If you come with come back with some lousy explanantion after 4:00am pst, you are disqualified. No excuse will work. I don't want to hear about how you argued with your missus, or you were busy with other things, had to work a double shift, etc. NO that won't do. You can't buy time when you're selling wolf tickets. Man I have seen your type before. Pick buyers always have so many excuses...

BelieveTheHype · 01-18-09, 03:47 AM

maybe he is sleeping?

doggyfather · 01-18-09, 07:05 AM

liking the over, also going for phx and okc. okc's been bringing in the green..

nonsense48 · 01-18-09, 07:50 AM

CK, well it looks like hockey is a no show. i figured as much just in the way he was spouting off. oh well, another wannabe superhero unmasked.

Willie Bee · 01-18-09, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by cocknocker

I have been using the Morrison system for a couple of years now, but I never publicized it's inner workings because after a couple of emails between the founder and myself, he made it abundantly clear that he would like for it to remain a secret in order to continue making a business out of it.

Understand what you're saying, cocknocker, but at the same time it's up to the 'inventor' to safeguard his product. I mean, do you blame it all on the car thief or do you also put some of the onus on the car owner that left their keys in the ignition? The very minute this sytem started to be explained -- Be it genuine peer-to-peer sharing of information or some ego-driven look at what I invented reason -- the door was opened. Don't get me wrong; I've got no love for scammers, freeloaders and plain old everyday lowlife scum. But if this guy didn't want the inner workings, as you called them, to be known, he should've just kept his mouth shut.

anthmac28 · 01-18-09, 09:13 AM

Going on fellas?

Been reading for a while and decided it was time to throw my hat in the ring. Nice to see some knowlegable guys who know what the hell they are talking about in the sports world. Occasional A hole but very entertaining and usefull board. I would like to thank a few of you for making me some dough the past few days and will try to give back with some of my picks. Because I am new would like to take a day or two and will be posting my picks soon. Been having a very good season so maybe I can give a little back. GL to all on a profitable Sunday!

hockeytown11 · 01-18-09, 09:24 AM

Wow this guys a real turd. I am supposed to sit on a computer all day and night because I have an internent challenge on a betting forum with some guy I dont know? Ya thats called"having no life" sorry pal I dont stay on here all day and night,my life doesnt revolve around the need to feel importaint on this site like some others(we wont mention any names).

My Sunday plays are

Georgia plus 7.5
Minnesota plus 1
Toronto plus 4