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    SBR MVP
    • 11-27-07
    • 2236

    #736
    No problem, I am glad I could help.
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    • actionaddict86
      SBR Sharp
      • 02-13-09
      • 464

      #737
      what are the plays today?
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      • Formulawiz
        Restricted User
        • 01-12-09
        • 1589

        #738
        Todays NBA Plays

        Yesterday our system PR's had no plays.
        YTD 82-56=59.4%

        Yesterday sportrends PR plays went 1-2 not a good night. Hopefully we can bounce back today.

        Based on early lines
        TOR + 5 or >
        NYK + 4.5 or >
        DAL + 7.5 or >
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        • Formulawiz
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          • 01-12-09
          • 1589

          #739
          Todays NBA Plays

          Yesterday our PR system went 2-1
          YTD 84-57=59.6%

          Yesterday in the NBA we all should have gone 3-1. Our H/A PR system and sportrends PR's only produced one game which was ATL for a win.

          In college hoops the odds makers have been very sharp with their lines and there have not been many plays. Yesterday he got sloppy and I went 4-0. Overall I recovered from the day before big time.
          If you want to check they were MARQ, SYR, ST JOE and TUL.

          I dont expect the man to get very sloppy with his lines again.

          Based on early lines
          CLE - 5 or < One problem we have an opposite play at this line with our H/A PR so unless CLE drops to -4 I will pass this game.
          PHO becomes a play if +5.5 or >
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          • caracalla
            Restricted User
            • 11-12-05
            • 2549

            #740
            NCAA my system filtered by yours said Luoisville -9.
            Unfortunately I didn't notice starting time!!!! Already finished ... Luoisville 73-55
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            • Formulawiz
              Restricted User
              • 01-12-09
              • 1589

              #741
              Todays NBA Plays

              Yesterday we had no system plays
              YTD 84-57=59.6%

              Yesterday we needed CLE to drop to -4 for a play and it never got there.

              Based on early lines
              ORL - 9.5 or <
              IND + 5 or >
              MIN + 5 or >
              DAL - 2.5 or <
              CHI - sportrends PR opposite play on PHI
              HOU - sportrends PR opposite play onCHA
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              • caracalla
                Restricted User
                • 11-12-05
                • 2549

                #742
                NCAA Flo St -5.5
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                • caracalla
                  Restricted User
                  • 11-12-05
                  • 2549

                  #743
                  Flo St 64-62 lost
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                  • Formulawiz
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-12-09
                    • 1589

                    #744
                    Todays NBA Plays

                    Yesterday our system went 1-3
                    YTD 85-60=58.6

                    Not a very good night. At least our systems H/A PR's and sportrends PR's split 1-1.

                    Based on early lines
                    NO -1.5 or <
                    OKL + 9.5
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                    • Formulawiz
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                      • 01-12-09
                      • 1589

                      #745
                      Todays NBA Plays

                      Yesterday our system had no plays
                      YTD 85-60=58.6

                      Yesterday we all should have gone 2-0 with our system H/A PR play on PHO and sportrends plays on MIN and PHO.

                      Based on early lines
                      BOS - 6.5 or <
                      MEM + 8.5 or >
                      NJN - 3.5 or <
                      UTA + 6 or > sportrends PR opposite play on ORL, will pass game if line stays @ 6.
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                      • Milwaukee
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 02-10-09
                        • 69

                        #746
                        Originally posted by Formulawiz
                        Yesterday our system had no plays
                        YTD 85-60=58.6

                        Yesterday we all should have gone 2-0 with our system H/A PR play on PHO and sportrends plays on MIN and PHO.

                        Based on early lines
                        BOS - 6.5 or <
                        MEM + 8.5 or >
                        DAL + 4 or >

                        2-0 yesterday. You say the play was NO and OK. I dont understand this
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                        • dre3000
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 02-07-09
                          • 187

                          #747
                          Looks more like 0-2
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                          • Formulawiz
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                            • 01-12-09
                            • 1589

                            #748
                            Originally posted by Milwaukee
                            2-0 yesterday. You say the play was NO and OK. I dont understand this
                            You need to go back and read the rules at post #1. Secondly my error, DAL should have been + 9 or > and not 4 or >
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                            • Formulawiz
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                              • 01-12-09
                              • 1589

                              #749
                              Today NBA Plays

                              Yesterday our system went 1-2
                              YTD 86-62=58.1%

                              Yesterday our H/A PR's went 2-2 and sportrends PR's went 2-3. Not a good night. At least we had a win on OH St.

                              Based on early lines
                              TOR + 3.5 or >
                              SAN - 6 or < @ 6.5 sportrends opposite PR play on OKL
                              POR - 7.5 or <
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                              • Formulawiz
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                                • 01-12-09
                                • 1589

                                #750
                                Todays NBA Plays

                                Yesterday our system went 1-2
                                YTD 87-64=57.6

                                Looks like we are on a few day drought. Lets hope we can turn it around today.

                                Based on early lines
                                ORL + 5 or >
                                BOS - 3 or < Too many players out so would not lay more
                                DET + 4.5 or >
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                                • diogee
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-11-08
                                  • 19477

                                  #751
                                  Good luck Wiz...agree with the Orl and Det picks that were put out and have been waiting for offers to be filled at match for those 2. Boston game looks a little like a sucker bet imo but they won't stay in the ats slump forever.
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                                  • Formulawiz
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                                    • 01-12-09
                                    • 1589

                                    #752
                                    Todays NBA Plays

                                    Yesterday our PR System went 2-1
                                    YTD 89-65=57.8%

                                    We all finally made back what we lost over the past 3 days by hitting 5-1. Our H/A PR's were 2-1 and sportrends PR's went 4-1 and gave us an additional 3 wins with MIN, GS and PHI.

                                    Based on todays early lines
                                    NJN + 4 or >
                                    DEN - 7 or <
                                    PHI + 3.5 or >
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                                    • Formulawiz
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 01-12-09
                                      • 1589

                                      #753
                                      A must read I found on the handicappers think tank

                                      Here is a terrific post I found on the handicappers think tank, a bit long and my reply. Just wondering what you guys thought.

                                      Systems and services /can they hit 60%+
                                      hajune
                                      I just read an article by one of the cappers from SBR. I believe Justin is his name. He is obviously an intelligent guy and talked about systems, services and touts etc.

                                      First of all I will compliment him on talking about the Morrison System. That is a progressive system that wants you to buy up to 3 points a game. Progressive systems are doomed for failure right from the start!!! Everytime you buy a 1/2 point or more you not only buy the rated value but you pay an additional 10% commission. Therefore 10% becomes 11% (10% 0f 10 %=1 +10 =11). This adds up to a whooping 15% + commission when buying 3 points. You are now asked to overcome 15%+. When you lose your 3rd game you are in the hole in a big way. You will be risking a lot to make a little and will feel foolish doing so. In the long run expect to have some sessions with Dr. Phil . Einstein, among others, proved no system can increase the odds of winning , systems only make it worse or keep it the same at best. Of course money management systems are a different subject matter. If they promote a logical and conservative pathway they will enhanse the ability to win. A good method wil keep you from " tapping out" during a bad run.
                                      Point # 2.
                                      He talked about cappers and betting systems unrelated to progressive betting . If you are looking for a good service he is correct that cappers with a long term proven record are normally the best. He is also correct in stating that you should stay away from cappers who have no track record , claim unsubstanciated records, and ask for money in unconventional forms. Stay away from these guys. Anybody worth while should have a track record or should explain how they arrive at a play. It should make sense and they should not make you commit a lot.
                                      Point# 3
                                      This I take exception to. He suggested that ALL services and ALL cappers are incapable of hitting 60% in the long run. He said that 55% was about the best you could expect. Of course proving a negative is impossible to do. What he should say is he knows nobody who hits 60%. I do know handicappers who average 60%. When Thomas Edison was attempting to find the filament for the light bulb he failed 10,000 times. Does that mean he would not find the answer in the next attempt? If you are familiar to 10,000 cappers who never reach the 60% plateau that does not mean the next one will experince the same results.
                                      The big problem with most handicappers is thet USE THE SAME INFORMATION AS THE LINE MAKERS. You can not expect to have a 60% + winning record when doing this. You must find data that is uncommonly known and apply it in a systematic and mechanical format. The Wright Brothers threw away conventional wisdom when attempting to fly an air plane. In so doing so they created 3 separete entities of aerodynamics that caused them to successfully fly a plane.
                                      I wrote an article about using impact values. Not one of you will use it. 99% of you gamble because you have a hidden desire to lose. You are undisciplined, scatter brained in your thinking processes, and lazy. I showed you all a spot play that kickes ass all year and only 2 of you bothered to pursue it. It hit 90%!!!!!!!!
                                      Here is my challenge to anybody willing to take it. You put up $10,000 (none of yoy wil do it)and I will go over the the method with you that YOU will be able to do. If it does not hit 60%, oops cross that out and make it 62 1/2% ( 5 of 8 games) you get your money back. We will put it in a holding trust so there will be no risk. If it does hit 62!/2% oops cross that out and make that 65% you will have learned a system that will make you rich. I will tell you straight up I hit 65% + of my plays. To my surprise using this mechanical form of handicapping it get a lot of plays. I spent 5000+ hours perfecting it. I have a 40,000 game data base in football and basketball proving that it works. I believe I could get a few well known handicappers who will confirm my ability to handicap. Two of them call me everyday to pick my brain. Neither one has ever seen anything like it and having explained the logic they understand why it works.
                                      That is all I have to say. I will not be posting plays any more but will answer handicapping questions. If you have any post them. The one guy who responded to my spot play system is getting my plays daily now. We have hit 10 straight NBA games with 2 pending tonight. I reward people who work at handicapping. I think he is a happy person.

                                      MY REPLY

                                      Hajune, you hit the nail right on the head and you are a 100% correct in your description above. The one area I take exception to relates to power ratings. My question to you is, what are we trying to predict? Assists, turnovers, personal fouls, steals? Well the answer is the outcome of the game. So what basic statistic better represents this then final score? I have found over the years there is no other method or indicator which allows us to determine pretty accurately the strength of two teams. I agree with you that many good handicappers and oddsmakers all use the same data to formulate plays and this does not mean they will all come up with the same results. I can hand over a good PR system to 10 different individuals and I can assure you, we will get 10 different results. So it all boils down to these factors; Have you tested your system for many years, do you have good knowledge of the game, do you apply good rules to your system and do you know what to look for. This is what separates the men from the boys.
                                      I also agree with you there are some very talented sports services out there that have come up with some amazing systems over the years that have been very successful and have been adopted by the oddsmakers. These guys understand the game and continue to do well.
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                                      • semp
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 03-10-09
                                        • 1

                                        #754
                                        I was just wondering if Einstein proved that no system can beat a fair game? (one which is exactly 50/50) so does this mean some sports betting systems can work long term, because humans are not perfect and just set odds for the majority of the public?
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                                        • Formulawiz
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-12-09
                                          • 1589

                                          #755
                                          Todays NBA Plays

                                          Yesterday our system went 3-2
                                          YTD 92-67=57.9%

                                          Does not look like any NBA games today
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                                          • casinojack
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 26

                                            #756
                                            Wiz


                                            3-2 yesterday ? Did I miss something ? I saw three picks ?
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                                            • Formulawiz
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-12-09
                                              • 1589

                                              #757
                                              Originally posted by casinojack
                                              Wiz


                                              3-2 yesterday ? Did I miss something ? I saw three picks ?
                                              You need to download the spreadsheet.
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                                              • Formulawiz
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-12-09
                                                • 1589

                                                #758
                                                Todays NBA Plays

                                                Yesterday our system had no plays
                                                YTD 92-67=57.9%

                                                Yesterday sportrends PR's gave us a play on ATL for a win.

                                                Based on Early lines we have 2 plays, UTA and PHI but our system H/A PR and sportrends PR's have opposite plays. We will have to wait to see what develops.
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                                                • danychaos
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 03-20-09
                                                  • 37

                                                  #759
                                                  Hey Formulawiz, I'm new here but I've been following, sportrends PR's seem to be doing quite ok the last few days... do you keep a record for those plays?
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                                                  • Formulawiz
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 01-12-09
                                                    • 1589

                                                    #760
                                                    Originally posted by danychaos
                                                    Hey Formulawiz, I'm new here but I've been following, sportrends PR's seem to be doing quite ok the last few days... do you keep a record for those plays?
                                                    NO I dont keep sportrends actual win/loss records but I can assure you they are very high over the course of the season and to be honest with you I am surprised they post them. As I mentioned in earlier posts they dont generate many plays, usually 2 to 3 games daily. I mainly use their PR's to compare to our system PR plays. Ex: Yesterday sportrends PR play was GS which kept us off PHI.

                                                    I am sure you will ask me why I solely dont use sportrends PR's to make my plays. Well remember I started my thread in the middle of January, 2 1/2 months after the season started. I have been using our system PR's for well over 10 years now with great results. At the beginning of this season to the middle of January I was winning at a very high percentage as I usually do. Remember as the season progresses it gets a little harder to keep winning at a high percentage because the oddsmakers get much sharper with his lines.
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                                                    • Formulawiz
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                      • 1589

                                                      #761
                                                      Todays NBA Plays

                                                      Yesterday our system went 1-0 with SAC
                                                      YTD 93-67=58.1%

                                                      Yesterday we had 2 other plays which dropped due to opposite plays with our H/A PR and sportrends PR. They were UTA and PHI.

                                                      It is very important everyone run the spreadsheet themselves to get the system plays. It is just too much work for me to follow the line changes all day long and then post games.

                                                      Remember, plays are made 10 to 15 minutes prior to tip off and that includes 10:00 pm est games as well.

                                                      Based on early lines.
                                                      LAK - 5 or <
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                                                      • Formulawiz
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 01-12-09
                                                        • 1589

                                                        #762
                                                        Todays NBA plays

                                                        Yesterday our system went 2-0
                                                        YTD 95-67=58.6%

                                                        Based on early lines
                                                        CLE - 8.5 or <
                                                        PHI - 6 or <
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                                                        • Formulawiz
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 01-12-09
                                                          • 1589

                                                          #763
                                                          Todays NBA Plays

                                                          Yesterday our system went 2-0
                                                          YTD 97-67=59.2%

                                                          Yesterday we should have picked up an additional win with TOR. Sportrends PR's went 3-0 and kept us off GS.

                                                          Based on early lines
                                                          MEM + 9 or >
                                                          ORL - 7 or <
                                                          PHI + 6 or >
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                                                          • Formulawiz
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 01-12-09
                                                            • 1589

                                                            #764
                                                            Todays NBA Plays

                                                            Yesterday our system went 1-1
                                                            YTD 98-68=59.1%

                                                            Based on early lines
                                                            LAK - 9.5 or <
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                                                            • milkshakeballa
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 03-24-09
                                                              • 204

                                                              #765
                                                              Question - I updated my final scores and spreads manually for today's games. I updated my rankings. But how do I now move to the 25th set of games? It is staying on the 24 and telling me who to pick?

                                                              Also, if I did this correctl, I got a -5.5 Line value and got a player for the Lakers tonight correct? So this system should have went 1-0 today...?

                                                              But when I put the -6 spread in for the Utah game its giving me a line value of -7.0 but not telling me to pick Utah...? Is this correct?
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                                                              • NBA Hero
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-05-08
                                                                • 1886

                                                                #766
                                                                means bet at your own risk and its not part of the system.
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                                                                • Formulawiz
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                                  • 1589

                                                                  #767
                                                                  Todays NBA Picks

                                                                  Yesterday our system went 1-0
                                                                  YTD 99-68=59.3

                                                                  Yesterday if you followed sportrends PR plays they went 1-1. Overall you would have gone 2-1.

                                                                  Based on early lines
                                                                  GS + 7.5 or >
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                                                                  • Formulawiz
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 01-12-09
                                                                    • 1589

                                                                    #768
                                                                    Originally posted by milkshakeballa
                                                                    Question - I updated my final scores and spreads manually for today's games. I updated my rankings. But how do I now move to the 25th set of games? It is staying on the 24 and telling me who to pick?

                                                                    Also, if I did this correctl, I got a -5.5 Line value and got a player for the Lakers tonight correct? So this system should have went 1-0 today...?

                                                                    But when I put the -6 spread in for the Utah game its giving me a line value of -7.0 but not telling me to pick Utah...? Is this correct?
                                                                    1. I am not sure what you mean.
                                                                    2. LAK were the only play yesterday
                                                                    3.UTA was not a play because the PR's do not have at least a 1 pt or > diff
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                                                                    • danychaos
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 03-20-09
                                                                      • 37

                                                                      #769
                                                                      Hi Formulawiz, will you be posting system plays for the mlb season? I remember you said you use sportrends system for that, right? It'd be interesting to see how it works. Thanks.
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                                                                      • Formulawiz
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                                                                        • 01-12-09
                                                                        • 1589

                                                                        #770
                                                                        Originally posted by danychaos
                                                                        Hi Formulawiz, will you be posting system plays for the mlb season? I remember you said you use sportrends system for that, right? It'd be interesting to see how it works. Thanks.
                                                                        I use sportrends baseball software and it would be unethical for me to post the games. Hey $50.00 is cheap enough especially when I make my money back 1000X over.
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