When will we find out that Gregg Popobitch fixed these last 2 games?

[reallytho]

it was evident that Wade's and Lebron's jumpers must be guarded after the 1st quarter.

Nah bro.... NO WAY ..... NO WAY a top 5 coach iin NBA history should make an adjustment in a championship game.... NO WAY IN HELL....



Are you on crack?

[Ratzz]

ReallyTho... are you still on this hilarious rigging theory for Pop?

were all the Spurs in on it?

the greatest mistake that Pop made in the Finals was winning Game 3 by an almost 40 pt. margin..
he let his shooters shoot themselves COLD... there is no reason to win 36 pts.

so unnecesary. no carry over. win by 15 pts. and go home... SAS 113, MIAMI 77

DAnny Green shot 9-15 FG, 27 Pts.
7-9 from 3-Pt. range

and they won by 36... he used up too much ammo, and ran out.. later.
hard to stay hungry and hot 7 games.. save some room for dessert.

my question to you is from your own video..
were both Duncan and Parker IN on your FIX?
did they both eat their talent and dreams in the 4th Qtr?

all for just a few dollars?*

the time is marked in this snapshot of the video. Go look for yourself.

4th Qtr almost over, and no points from either of them.
I think that is what did it..
don't you?

[Mac4Lyfe]

^^^ Ratzzz - Did you forget about game 6 already? Pops sat Duncan and Parker with a lead to start the 4th and kept them on the bench while Miami went on a ridiculous run? Pops effectively shut his 2 stars down. He effectively cooled them both down. You're proving our point. Who the hell messes with a rotation that was building a commanding lead?

BTW - Parker hit a long range 3 over Lebron and then a 2 over Chalmers near the end of the 4th quarter. What are you trying to say?

[Ratzz]

Duncan is 38 yrs. old... he HAS to sit him... guy needs a break... Parker is no spring chicken.. needed same..
Pop was trying to save them for the end of the 4th..

he didn't want to take them out.. he had to*

it's like not buying a new computer, and paying rent instead..

you would like to do both, but you can only afford one..

it almost worked. it didn't*

no rig. RIDICULOUS notion.

that somebody would throw away chance to be 5-0 in Finals..

let me ask you.. what would he receive in return?
what is his true motive to throw a Championship away..? (other than perhaps placating your mind)

how much money..? and where is it coming from?
do you think that there would be ANY WAY to hide it..?

Pop throws game with odd late-game calls,, then $100M mysteriously transferred to his bank account.
and you are thinking that would not get out? NOBODY at the bank would mention that to media or a blog..?

it's insanity. please

[spursbball2]

Why don't you bring these questions to a reputable spurs site, poundingtherock.com. make a fanpost there and see how others receive your idea. They will rationally debate you.

[reallytho]

Ratzz = Already admitted Pop rigged the finals... This argument is over with him... Proof below.

You know whats funny..... Mac I read something you said that is 1,00000% accurate:



Without even knowing it, Ratzz already ADMITTED Pop rigged the finals... And there's nothing he can ever say to change that.




I feel Pop rigged the finals, and intentionally put his team at a disadvantage.... MOTIVE: Money, The Mob (threats / blackmail), or NBA Owners directions (or many more possibilities)



Mac feels Pop rigged the finals, and intentionally put his team at a disadvantage.... MOTIVE: Money, The Mob (threats / blackmail), or NBA Owners directions (or many more possibilities)



Ratzz feels Pop rigged the finals, and intentionally put his team at a disadvantage.... MOTIVE: To stroke his own ego, to go down as an evil genius, to boost his own stature in coaching history, by winning with EXTREMELY unconventional practices, so we can all hail him as the smartest coach ever. (and perhaps he can write a book down the line titled "Evil Genius: How I beat the Heat using wicked practices".... *Note.. This is a PERSONAL MONETERY GAIN... NO DIFFERENT from gambling..)




So ratty, Mac already got you.... It's over. By DEFINITION, You've already ADMITTED Pop rigged the finals, because he put his team at a DISADVANTAGE, INTENTIONALLY (The definition of rigging)...


THE ONLY THING a coach should be doing, is trying to win the game... You've ADMITTED you feel he had an ulterior motive, besides simply winning the game, that put his team at a disadvantage... This is the DEFINITION of rigging...


The only thing we disagree with is the motive.... And to me, our motive makes a LOT MORE SENSE than yours... But again, you're entitled to your twisted opinion.



No way around it, by definition, you've admitted Pop fixed the finals... So this argument is over.

[reallytho]

Why don't you bring these questions to a reputable spurs site, poundingtherock.com. make a fanpost there and see how others receive your idea. They will rationally debate you.

Do they have a forum there? Some SMART people there above the age of 25?


If so I might sign up later.

[Ratzz]

ReallyTho, you are crazy.. i am sorry to be the one to tell you.

i said nothing of rigging. Ever.

i can see that no matter what is said, you are bending it to your reality.

Since there is nothing i can do about that..

Please proceed.*

[reallytho]

You know whats funny..... Mac I read something you said that is 1,00000% accurate:



Without even knowing it, Ratzz already ADMITTED Pop rigged the finals... And there's nothing he can ever say to change that.




I feel Pop rigged the finals, and intentionally put his team at a disadvantage.... MOTIVE: Money, The Mob (threats / blackmail), or NBA Owners directions (or many more possibilities)



Mac feels Pop rigged the finals, and intentionally put his team at a disadvantage.... MOTIVE: Money, The Mob (threats / blackmail), or NBA Owners directions (or many more possibilities)



Ratzz feels Pop rigged the finals, and intentionally put his team at a disadvantage.... MOTIVE: To stroke his own ego, to go down as an evil genius, to boost his own stature in coaching history, by winning with EXTREMELY unconventional practices, so we can all hail him as the smartest coach ever. (and perhaps he can write a book down the line titled "Evil Genius: How I beat the Heat using wicked practices".... *Note.. This is a PERSONAL MONETERY GAIN... NO DIFFERENT from gambling..)




So ratty, Mac already got you.... It's over. By DEFINITION, You've already ADMITTED Pop rigged the finals, because he put his team at a DISADVANTAGE, INTENTIONALLY (The definition of rigging)...


THE ONLY THING a coach should be doing, is trying to win the game... You've ADMITTED you feel he had an ulterior motive, besides simply winning the game, that put his team at a disadvantage... This is the DEFINITION of rigging...


The only thing we disagree with is the motive.... And to me, our motive makes a LOT MORE SENSE than yours... But again, you're entitled to your twisted opinion.



No way around it, by definition, you've admitted Pop fixed the finals... So this argument is over.




I guarantee Mac is either a lawyer, or will be one day.. Or is just a smart dude. Only person I feel like I can learn from... Even I wouldn't have pointed out this FACT.

Quoted for emphasis.

[spursbball2]

Yes, absolutely. A lot of 30 and over with astounding knowledge for a fansite. Go for it, I'll chime in over there. I find your theory highly plausible but tough to accept. Either way, I dislike like pop a great deal right now.

[Ratzz]

Quoted for emphasis.

Really, though..

you are insane,. not sure if hilarious or sad. ( i suppose it depends on wether a person is related to you)

so for me, hilarious. Cheers RT..

rock on

[reallytho]

Yes, absolutely. A lot of 30 and over with astounding knowledge for a fansite. Go for it, I'll chime in over there. I find your theory highly plausible but tough to accept. Either way, I dislike like pop a great deal right now.

Trust me, it's tough for me to accept... I just don't know what could be another explanation for it...


What could make one of the best coaches of all time, make REPEATED mistakes, that defy logic? Including his own logics?



-You could go to crack / LSD / meth - But he looked fully coherent in all his interviews and on the side line

-You could go to a brain tumer / alzheimers developed right before Game 6 / 7 ... I'm sure everyone would say that's a stretch

-You can say he just "f*cked up / human error / got too cute" ... This would make sense...... if it didn't happen 15+ times.... f*cking up 1 or 2 times is understandable (like Frank Vogel in ONE GAME) ... f*cking up 20 times defies anything me and you can realistically comprehend...



Whats left? Whats left besides those 3 fairly impossible scenarios?



-An Alien invaded his mind and took over his soul?

-Somebody cloned Pop before the season.... KILLED the real Pop before Game 6, and put this new clone in there who knows NOTHING about basketball?



Or, Pop rigged the games?



I know its TOUGH to accept... It really really is.... But I'm still waiting on someone to give me a better, more logical explanation....



I have not heard one yet.




I'll check out the board there.

[reallytho]

So far: Me, Mac, Ratzz (and a few others) all have said Pop rigged the games. And there are many others out there.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Why go to poundingtherock? Very few post there in the first place and it's not a true representative of Spur fans. BUT, Funny you should mention that...

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/6/22/4454288/the-audacity-of-one-non-spurs-fan-and-how-it-brought-me-peace

This guy thought Ginobli fixed the games.



This post was spot on. Pops fukked up, slept at the wheel. Made critical errors that he normally doesn't make. Several people in this thread thought it was fishy.

While everyone's whining about "this thread again", the fact remains that OP is bang on accurate.

Popovich does not coach Ginobili the same way he does everyone else. He is given preferential treatment no matter how bad he's playing. And no, this is not hindsight, because mid-game you could tell Manu didn't have it. I was thinking Pop needed to bench him for the remainder of the 1st half with about 5-7 minutes to go. THAT early I was wanting Manu benched. And this is despite how good he played in game 5.

Not a knee jerk reaction either. From watching how bad and inconsistent he's been not only throughout the playoffs but to close the season, those of us that have really paid attention knew that Manu doesn't "get it back" once he "doesn't have it" on a particular night. 2 years ago, Manu would get it back. This year? Not very often. When he starts bad, he usually ends bad. I also don't care if he occaisionally hits a shot late in a game after he just bricked 7/8 before that and had 3 turnovers. The one make doesn't make up for all the fuckups even if we win. It'd be his fault we didn't win comfortably instead of need the last shot.

The decisions at the end of game 6 still bum me the penetrate out whenever I think about it. Everything about it just seemed wrong. Why take out Duncan? Why have Leonard (bad FT shooter in the postseason) in the game and catching the ball to shoot free throws when we needed BOTH? Why take Duncan out a SECOND TIME when it clearly didn't work the first time? Why ride Manu in OT when he was shitting the bed all night?

Fuckin jesus. Mistake after mistake. And that doesn't even touch on the terrible lineup he started the 4th with.

I rarely blame Pop for anything, but good lord did he penetrate up game 6 after the first 3 quarters. Almost every real decision he made didn't work, and as soon as he made them I was questioning them on the spot as being dumb (something I also rarely do since I feel Pop usually makes the right call or at least a logical one). But that game. . .Pop seemed to just throw logic and good coaching out the window and went on emotion and nostalgia.

I agree with this and someone should post the gif - if only to show Pop grinning and hugging like a moron. You'd have thought HE just won the fuckin' title by that show of sucking ass.

Sportsmanship - yes- that is one thing. Shake their hand - walk away and go support Timmy and your own team -

Senility - Blowing the fuckin' series with stupidity and then grinning like a moron and rubbing against the winners and celebrating.

There is a difference.


Thread for coaches that Spurs fans would want over Popobitch

Why don't you bring these questions to a reputable spurs site, poundingtherock.com. make a fanpost there and see how others receive your idea. They will rationally debate you.

[Ratzz]

So far: Me, Mac, Ratzz (and a few others) all have said Pop rigged the games. And there are many others out there.

I NEVER SAID THAT POPS RIGGED THE GAME. I SAID THAT WAS IMPOSSIBLE.
i have never heard of anyone twisting words as you do. WOW

[reallytho]

Mac, I signed up to Spurs Talk forum, but can't post yet.... Since the guy suggested pounding the rock, I just said what the hell let me post the evidence.


I read the post from Spurs Talk... Definitely spot on.... I'm about to post ALL the evidence in one post... Let me know if I'm missing anything.

Why go to poundingtherock? Very few post there in the first place and it's not a true representative of Spur fans. BUT, Funny you should mention that...

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/6/22/4454288/the-audacity-of-one-non-spurs-fan-and-how-it-brought-me-peace

This guy thought Ginobli fixed the games.



This post was spot on. Pops fukked up, slept at the wheel. Made critical errors that he normally doesn't make. Several people in this thread thought it was fishy.

While everyone's whining about "this thread again", the fact remains that OP is bang on accurate.

Popovich does not coach Ginobili the same way he does everyone else. He is given preferential treatment no matter how bad he's playing. And no, this is not hindsight, because mid-game you could tell Manu didn't have it. I was thinking Pop needed to bench him for the remainder of the 1st half with about 5-7 minutes to go. THAT early I was wanting Manu benched. And this is despite how good he played in game 5.

Not a knee jerk reaction either. From watching how bad and inconsistent he's been not only throughout the playoffs but to close the season, those of us that have really paid attention knew that Manu doesn't "get it back" once he "doesn't have it" on a particular night. 2 years ago, Manu would get it back. This year? Not very often. When he starts bad, he usually ends bad. I also don't care if he occaisionally hits a shot late in a game after he just bricked 7/8 before that and had 3 turnovers. The one make doesn't make up for all the fuckups even if we win. It'd be his fault we didn't win comfortably instead of need the last shot.

The decisions at the end of game 6 still bum me the penetrate out whenever I think about it. Everything about it just seemed wrong. Why take out Duncan? Why have Leonard (bad FT shooter in the postseason) in the game and catching the ball to shoot free throws when we needed BOTH? Why take Duncan out a SECOND TIME when it clearly didn't work the first time? Why ride Manu in OT when he was shitting the bed all night?

Fuckin jesus. Mistake after mistake. And that doesn't even touch on the terrible lineup he started the 4th with.

I rarely blame Pop for anything, but good lord did he penetrate up game 6 after the first 3 quarters. Almost every real decision he made didn't work, and as soon as he made them I was questioning them on the spot as being dumb (something I also rarely do since I feel Pop usually makes the right call or at least a logical one). But that game. . .Pop seemed to just throw logic and good coaching out the window and went on emotion and nostalgia.

I agree with this and someone should post the gif - if only to show Pop grinning and hugging like a moron. You'd have thought HE just won the fuckin' title by that show of sucking ass.

Sportsmanship - yes- that is one thing. Shake their hand - walk away and go support Timmy and your own team -

Senility - Blowing the fuckin' series with stupidity and then grinning like a moron and rubbing against the winners and celebrating.

There is a difference.


Thread for coaches that Spurs fans would want over Popobitch

[reallytho]

The "Mistakes" that the "Top 5 coach in NBA history" Made in 2 BACK TO BACK GAMES that cost his team an NBA championship.... (the fix is real):
======================================== =====




-Taking out Tim Duncan on the Final 2 possessions in Game 6 of the 4th quarter... Even when he saw the *first time*, his "plan" didn't work - 2 mistakes




-Playing Manu Ginobli all of Game 6, even when he finished the game with 8 turnovers (career high.. think about hat for a second...) and the team only had 5... (This is a "mistake" from the same man who emphasized "turnovers" twice when asked what's his team's problem on offense and defense from Doris Burke.. the Video: .... *Did he SUDDENLY forget his own turnover philosophy? #think)


I'll count each turnover (AFTER his first 4) as a "mistake"... Because Manu should have been pulled from the game LONG AGO.. and EACH turnover made it more and more egregious - # of mistakes - 4





-Up 4, with 28 seconds left.... The heat have NO CHOICE but to foul... Any coach, even a coach of the Peewee league, would have only his BEST FREETHROW shooters in, since Miami has NO CHOICE but to foul... This is basketball 101... He Had lenard in, a 63% FT shooter for the playoffs, and left Neal (100% for the playoffs) on the bench... Lenard misses 1 free throw that would have iced the game - 1 mistake





-Tony Parker, the Spurs 1st or 2nd best player, had a total of 2 turnovers in games 6 and 7 combined.
---Manu Ginobli, a player who has struggled all playoffs, had a total of 12 turnovers in games 6 and 7 combined.


Did you know, Parker was on the bench for the end of Game's 6 AND 7... While Ginobli was in the game, and turned the ball over on the final CRITICAL possession in BOTH games? - # of mistakes: 2




-The Spurs had a 10 point lead in game 6 to start the 4th, and Pop left Duncan and Parker on the bench... IN A CLOSE OUT GAME (you have a WHOLE summer to rest)... The heat took their lead from 10 to 1.. Parker didn't enter the game until 7minutes left - # of mistakes - 2




-In Game 7, Pop never made any defensive adjustments on Wade / Lebron. He gave them wide open shot, after wide open shot... A commentator even said he waved lenard to back up, when he pressed up on Lebron... This is AFTER Lebron has already hit about 10 wide open shots... So, now Pop doesn't know how to make "adjustments" eh?... Interesting... - # of mistakes - 4 .. (I'll say giving each player 4 more wide open shots / not double teaming after they've already hit a bunch, counts as 2 mistakes... 2 mistakes per player (wade / lebron) = 4 mistakes




-In Game 7, Pop only played Boris Diaw 13 minutes... The guy who many have been praising for his Defense on Lebron all series - 1 mistake




-In game 6, with 1.9 seconds left when the Spurs NEEDED A 3 to tie in overtime... Pop had Duncan and Splitter in the game... When have you ever seen this in NBA history? He made it so the other team *literally* only needed to guard 3 players, instead of 5... For anyone who will say "Splitter can set a pick" ... So can Bonner... So can Tmac... So can Diaw.... And they can all ALSO hit 3's, Duncan and Splitter CANNOT... - 1 mistake





The Smoking Gun: Danny Green struggled BAD in Game 6.... And struggled even WORSE in Game 7... He had HORRIBLE defense, intangibles, no assists, looked timid and scared, turning the ball over, and started 0 - 8 ... It was obvious Pop should have pulled him before even the first half ended, but he refused... Green CONTINUED to kill the team, as Pop looked on: # of mistakes, 2 (1 mistake per 5 minutes of play he left Green in after he should've been pulled.. Being EXTREMELY nice on this one)...




But, the REAL smoking gun comes in when... When Green FINALLY hit his FIRST SHOT, he looked to gain a little swagger and confidence as he started to trash talk to himself... (Anyone knows if someone hits their FIRST SHOT, this gives them confidence and they could catch fire)...



What does Pop do after Green hits his FIRST SHOT? He then YANKS HIM IMMEDIATELY.....



Run this through your brain again: 0 - 8, HORRIBLE START on offense / defense, no benching through 3 quarters....



Hit your first shot, benched IMMEDIATELY... Go to the 13:07 mark at the below video to see how odd it was (even the announcers questioned it) - 1 "Mistake" (and I use the word "mistake" VERY loosely on this one...)











There are many more blunders... But these are the blatant ones...




Total # of "Mistakes" - 20 ...






:::More Proof:::


-Pop celebrated with the Heat after the game... He literally looked like the WINNING coach... Didn't look broken up ONE BIT...


-Pop did an interview after the game, where his eyes looked deceitful and EXTREMELY suspicious... He looked like a liar and looked guilty... Couldn't even look the reporter in the eye.... Here are the videos below:












================================




Spurs fans... I thought you deserved to know this....



I don't know the motive... I don't know the reasoning.... I don't know if he is getting black mailed or threatened by the Mob... I don't know if he made $100 million betting on the heat.... I don't know if David Stern asked him to "return a favor" for those 4 titles....



But what I DO KNOW FOR A FACT.... Is that a top 5 coach in NBA HISTORY.... Will not make critical mistake, after critical mistake.... To cost his team an NBA finals... "mistakes" That someone working at your local Burger King would not make... in BACK TO BACK GAMES....



I'm willing to bet, Pop hasn't made this many HORRIBLE "mistakes" in his ENTIRE 17 year coaching tenure combined... Let alone all of them in back to back games...



He made 20 mistakes (that I listed).... If he even cuts back on ONE of these mistakes... (one out of 20...), there is a GREAT CHANCE the Spurs would be World Champions right now.... Do you sincerely believe he "just had a few bad games" ?



Spurs Fans, Greg Popovich fixed these NBA finals... And I just thought you deserved to know the truth.



Over and out

[reallytho]

I should also be clear on something:


I'm not trying "pour it on" Pop at all... MANY people feel his BIGGEST mistake was not fouling when up 3 with 5 seconds left (fouling bosh)...


I don't even consider this a "mistake" .... This can be argued as "coaching philosophy"....



If I had an agenda on Pop, I would easily put this on the list.... I'm not... It's suggestive.


I only list the "mistakes" that defy ALL logic.... Blatant point shaving and rigging. No way out.

[Wojo]

reallytho,
Anybody who claims Popovich rigged the game to lose by stating that he never should have rested Tim Duncan or Tony Parker to begin the fourth quarter of Game 6 is very lacking in intelligent coaching acumen. First, Duncan on the bench for two and a half minutes to start the fourth quarter did not harm the Spurs. Splitter scored two baskets while Duncan was sitting.

Next, you need to stop quoting incredibly incorrect stats such as the Spurs record in the playoffs when Joey Crawford referees. With such lack of regard for the truth, you lose any credibility in stating other stats or observations.

Your reasons for Popovich "fixing" the series are ludicrous: "made $100 million betting on the Heat". You cannot state one realistic and plausible reason why he would "fix the series".

Manu Ginobili did not have a terrible game in Game 7. His last two turnovers made it look that way. He had a +6 for +/- compared to Parkers' -4 +/-. Manu had 5 assists and shot 6-12 for 18 points, including 2 of 5 on 3-pointers. Parker was 3/12 for 10 points and is NOT a 3-point shooter.

So, reallytho, did you also have a thread accusing Indiana's Frank Vogel for "fixing that series"?

[onlooker]

You guys going to carry on about this until football season? Only to be side tracked by whining about football officials?

[Wojo]

You guys going to carry on about this until football season? Only to be side tracked by whining about football officials?

Sure. Why does this bother you? Why is this so important to you that you took the time to make a post?

[Ratzz]

reallytho,
Anybody who claims Popovich rigged the game to lose by stating that he never should have rested Tim Duncan or Tony Parker to begin the fourth quarter of Game 6 is very lacking in intelligent coaching acumen. First, Duncan on the bench for two and a half minutes to start the fourth quarter did not harm the Spurs. Splitter scored two baskets while Duncan was sitting.

Next, you need to stop quoting incredibly incorrect stats such as the Spurs record in the playoffs when Joey Crawford referees. With such lack of regard for the truth, you lose any credibility in stating other stats or observations.

Your reasons for Popovich "fixing" the series are ludicrous: "made $100 million betting on the Heat". You cannot state one realistic and plausible reason why he would "fix the series".

Manu Ginobili did not have a terrible game in Game 7. His last two turnovers made it look that way. He had a +6 for +/- compared to Parkers' -4 +/-. Manu had 5 assists and shot 6-12 for 18 points, including 2 of 5 on 3-pointers. Parker was 3/12 for 10 points and is NOT a 3-point shooter.

So, reallytho, did you also have a thread accusing Indiana's Frank Vogel for "fixing that series"?

thank you.
Accusing Pop of throwing a series..
just sounds like frustration over a lost bet, or blind hatred for LBJ, or any other number of reasons..

[reallytho]

Quoting this to show over time, non-believers are converted. Below shows you Ratzz admitted Pop rigged the finals.


To anyone else.... I bet it's IMPOSSIBLE Hernandez would EVER KILL SOMEONE, right? (something a lot worse than rigging the finals)...


Oh wait.... Wait.... Whats that? He just got arrested and released by the Patriots this morning? But, but, I thought it was IMPOSSIBLE for a sports figure to do ANYTHING wrong? #lol .. As long as I got Ratzz to come to the realization we're right, it's good. The more you guys think about it, you'll come around also.

You know whats funny..... Mac I read something you said that is 1,00000% accurate:



Without even knowing it, Ratzz already ADMITTED Pop rigged the finals... And there's nothing he can ever say to change that.




I feel Pop rigged the finals, and intentionally put his team at a disadvantage.... MOTIVE: Money, The Mob (threats / blackmail), or NBA Owners directions (or many more possibilities)



Mac feels Pop rigged the finals, and intentionally put his team at a disadvantage.... MOTIVE: Money, The Mob (threats / blackmail), or NBA Owners directions (or many more possibilities)



Ratzz feels Pop rigged the finals, and intentionally put his team at a disadvantage.... MOTIVE: To stroke his own ego, to go down as an evil genius, to boost his own stature in coaching history, by winning with EXTREMELY unconventional practices, so we can all hail him as the smartest coach ever. (and perhaps he can write a book down the line titled "Evil Genius: How I beat the Heat using wicked practices".... *Note.. This is a PERSONAL MONETERY GAIN... NO DIFFERENT from gambling..)




So ratty, Mac already got you.... It's over. By DEFINITION, You've already ADMITTED Pop rigged the finals, because he put his team at a DISADVANTAGE, INTENTIONALLY (The definition of rigging)...


THE ONLY THING a coach should be doing, is trying to win the game... You've ADMITTED you feel he had an ulterior motive, besides simply winning the game, that put his team at a disadvantage... This is the DEFINITION of rigging...


The only thing we disagree with is the motive.... And to me, our motive makes a LOT MORE SENSE than yours... But again, you're entitled to your twisted opinion.



No way around it, by definition, you've admitted Pop fixed the finals... So this argument is over.

[onlooker]

Sure. Why does this bother you? Why is this so important to you that you took the time to make a post?

Wasn't directed at you.

I like a good conspiracy theory, but Mac is known for his official whining. So blaming a coach is a interesting twist for him.

Love ya Mac. See you during football season.

Oh yeah. Is reallytho your ghost?

[Ratzz]

this thread is OFFICIALLY CLOSED*

* due to stupidity.

[Git Lo]

this thread is OFFICIALLY CLOSED*

* due to stupidity.

[Mac4Lyfe]

He does sound like me at times? Minus the expletives and put downs.

I am an equal opportunity whiner. Refs, commish, players and now coaches are all up for suspicion. It would be baseless if it never happened in the past but we have all seen shit go down. No one can explain to this day Pops ridiculous rotations. Rotations he never tried in the regular season. No one can explain having Splitter and Duncan on the court at the same time needing a 3 to tie? No one can explain Danny Green going 1 for 19, Pops keeping him in as he's sucking ass then benching him when he made his first shot??? No one can explain not having Duncan or Splitter in the game to get 1 rebound?

Add up ALL the people, many here, that said WTF??? during the in games and you're telling me it's not suspicious?

Wasn't directed at you.

I like a good conspiracy theory, but Mac is known for his official whining. So blaming a coach is a interesting twist for him.

Love ya Mac. See you during football season.

Oh yeah. Is reallytho your ghost?

[reallytho]

Mac Mac....


They've already said it's IMPOSSIBLE for Pop to rig a finals... (something crooked)


But POSSIBLE for an active player with a 40 million dollar contract (making MORE than Pop) to KILL SOMEONE (100x worse than rigging a finals)...



This here is enough evidence that they were born stupid and will die retarded.


Nothing else to see here.... As long as I convinced a few people like Ratzz and some others, that was my goal.

[Wojo]

Wasn't directed at you.

thanks for clearing that up!

Since reallytho is brain dead, I'll respond to a Mac post.

Regarding Green & his two cold games, you are ignoring the fact that some coaches believe in players and somebody who is cold in a game, or a couple of games, can break out of that slump at any time.

I understand keeping Duncan off the court on the first possession at the end of the game. Personally, I thought he should have been on the court when Bosh got the rebound and passed to Ray Allen. But, I am not an NBA coach and I don't know the Spurs' personnel the way Popovich does. Brent Barry, who played for Popovich for 4 years, said on NBA-TV that didn't surprise him at all that Duncan wasn't on the floor as that is not what Popovich wants in that situation. Duncan & Splitter on the floor at the same time late when down by 3, I don't know what type of inbounds play was called. Popovich went with the best personnel he thought could execute whatever play they were running.

Nobody, including dimwitted reallytho, has give a realistic and logical explanation on why Popovich would "fix" a game. Why? Because there is none.

[trevor123698]

Duncan is 38 yrs. old... he HAS to sit him... guy needs a break... Parker is no spring chicken.. needed same..
Pop was trying to save them for the end of the 4th..

he didn't want to take them out.. he had to*

it's like not buying a new computer, and paying rent instead..

you would like to do both, but you can only afford one..

it almost worked. it didn't*

you are a penetrating retard. he does not have to sit duncan the last game of his entire career. the fix was in and I knew it when the lebron shoe with 2 time champ printed in it leaked. it was all over and I should have poured the rest of my bankroll on heat -130 when I saw it. Would have left me very comfy but no I rode the fix and let the spurs suffer for a false legacy of king james. All sports are fixed. its time we all know

[Mac4Lyfe]

Wojo - I understand a player going cold, but going arctic? Green wasn't just cold, he was totally frozen. No coach would keep a guy out there for that many minutes when he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn? Especially Pops who is known to bench guys when they are cold. Then when he finally makes a shot (1 for 19 mind you), Pops TAKES HIM OUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER??? Who the hell does that?

I heard Brent Barry and he was trying to be kind to Pops. You could tell he was thinking what the fukk was Pops thinking but tried to stay cordial.

I can understand taking out Duncan in that situation (although I wouldn't have done it, just like you and 1,000 other people wouldn't have)... BUT he has ALWAYS put in Splitter to better defend the perimeter and rebound. Show me when he's taken Duncan AND not put Splitter in the game in that situation? He purposely took out his best rebounders??? When all you need is 1 rebound to win the game?

Then when he needed a 3, he then puts in Duncan AND Splitter, neither who can shoot a 3 to save their lives? That was not his best personnel. That was so egregious that that should lead anyone to believe something was going on with Pops. I've seen Pops coach for over a decade and a half. That was not Pops coaching those last 2 games. I'd rather believe that he has an evil twin than believe he could be so incompetent. No way, he makes that many mistakes (~20) in 48 hours.

thanks for clearing that up!

Since reallytho is brain dead, I'll respond to a Mac post.

Regarding Green & his two cold games, you are ignoring the fact that some coaches believe in players and somebody who is cold in a game, or a couple of games, can break out of that slump at any time.

I understand keeping Duncan off the court on the first possession at the end of the game. Personally, I thought he should have been on the court when Bosh got the rebound and passed to Ray Allen. But, I am not an NBA coach and I don't know the Spurs' personnel the way Popovich does. Brent Barry, who played for Popovich for 4 years, said on NBA-TV that didn't surprise him at all that Duncan wasn't on the floor as that is not what Popovich wants in that situation. Duncan & Splitter on the floor at the same time late when down by 3, I don't know what type of inbounds play was called. Popovich went with the best personnel he thought could execute whatever play they were running.

Nobody, including dimwitted reallytho, has give a realistic and logical explanation on why Popovich would "fix" a game. Why? Because there is none.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Yep...

you are a penetrating retard. he does not have to sit duncan the last game of his entire career. the fix was in and I knew it when the lebron shoe with 2 time champ printed in it leaked. it was all over and I should have poured the rest of my bankroll on heat -130 when I saw it. Would have left me very comfy but no I rode the fix and let the spurs suffer for a false legacy of king james. All sports are fixed. its time we all know

[Wojo]

Mac,
Still, nobody has posted why Popovich "fixed" games 6 and 7.

I'm not saying Popovich didn't make mistakes, I even agreed on a couple that I would have done differently. However, after the fact judging a coach's performance is always 100% perfect.

The Pacers' Frank Vogel didn't have Hibbert in for the final play that Lebron drove to the basket. I thought it was a mistake but I don't think Vogel was trying to "fix" the series. Also, there are a lot of sharp people who thought Vogel did the right move. The same holds true for some of Pop's moves that you disagree with.

I haven't seen any professional journalist proclaim Popovich "fixed" the series. There is a reason for that. It's because he didn't fix the series.

[reallytho]

^^^Nobody has posted why you're a brain dead cretin, but you are...


I'm not sure if it's a birth defect, you got hit in the head with a hammer, you're on drugs or what .... How can we possibly know whats wrong with you?


*let that marinate and see if you can figure it out*

[horja1]

They've already said it's IMPOSSIBLE for Pop to rig a finals... (something crooked)


But POSSIBLE for an active player with a 40 million dollar contract (making MORE than Pop) to KILL SOMEONE (100x worse than rigging a finals)...



This here is enough evidence that they were born stupid and will die retarded.

another "great" analogy from your part ... ran out of nany analogies?

We got it ... it was a FIX ... now you can go somewhere else ... bye