When will we find out that Gregg Popobitch fixed these last 2 games?

[reallytho]

LOL...thats what they always say....I hate the Lakers...and half their rings were rigged...I love Miami....they rigged it for them this year...its not many people who think the way I do.....there ain't no duplicate of me...lol........most people cannot separate belief from reality...

Notice how NONE OF THEM can give any logical rebuttals....


Face tried, but failed miserably.... He's comparing ONE MISTAKE IN ONE GAME (a missed field goal), to 20 mistakes over 2 games...


The fact that a human being can't tell the difference between these 2 scenarios, lets me know humanity is DOOMED all to hell sooner or later.



They've seen EVERY POST in this thread.... They've seen Pop celebrating with the heat: they have no explanation for it


They've seen Pop with the wondering, deceitful, lying eyes... They don't even respond to it...



I hope they never go on trial for anything... Because blatantly IGNORING evidence in court wont land you ANYWHERE but in the slammer, lol.



Instead of saying: You know what, Pop did look strange celebrating with the heat... You got me there.


They ignore it, and pretend I never said it, like I'm not going to call them on it.




Menses and Mac let me know there is hope for the future... Everyone isn't brain dead sheep. #thankGoodness

[Git Lo]

This guy really likes to impose his opinion as fact, Im not sure anyone knows what your very imaginative reasons are 6/7 of your posts your blabbing about nothing. I get what your doing, trying to convince the crowd with no record or post history to back it up you just jump to too many conclusions all at once.

[reallytho]

This guy really likes to impose his opinion as fact, Im not sure anyone knows what your very imaginative reasons are 6/7 of your posts your blabbing about nothing. I get what your doing, trying to convince the crowd with no record or post history to back it up you just jump to too many conclusions all at once.

It's funny... This is like your 20th post in this thread right? But I'm COMPLETELY out of my mind? Lol....


If I made a thread saying, "The sky is red guys!!! The sky is red!!" .... Any person who DIDN'T believe me would make one post mocking me, call me a lunatic, and move on with their life...



I wonder why you are entertaining me if I'm completely off my rocker? Hmmmm....


The reason you're still here, is because I've created enough doubt in your mind to keep you here, and you now believe me, but want to make it seem like you don't.... You are upset that I've shown so much evidence to sway others opinions ...


Do you work for the NBA? If not, why the f*ck are you still in this thread? Why do you care?


Because I've created that doubt.... You don't like the fact something you thought was so crazy, is now so believable and so real...



Rofl...... You've been converted. Have a nice day friend

[Git Lo]

I had Miami Heat Series, easy call imo, they were also favored...

[reallytho]

LOL. I give them credit, they mix things up to leave some idiots clueless.... Ref, you throw one game.... Coach, you throw one game... Player, you throw one game...


Nobody will never know. Genius.

[reallytho]

Yo Mac, one more thing I wanted you to see...



In Game 6... in the final 28 seconds.... Yes, Tim Duncan was one of the MAIN reasons the Spurs couldn't BUY a defensive rebound.... But you want to know what an even BIGGER reason was?



After James missed his first 3... Kawi was going for the rebound... It was right there for him to grab, he was in perfect position....


D Wade was the only heat player around, and literally CLIMBED up Kawi's back, physically pushing him out of mid air from getting the ball, and no "over the back" call was called.... This is one of the most blatant over the back calls you will EVER see...


The heat get the offensive rebound, James hits another 3, and the rest is history....


"Damn, that's messed up.... He didn't call THAT blatant over the back... Well shit happens, refs miss calls, I guess"...


Well, that's one way to look at it.... Until you know who the ref was that "blew" the call...



Want to know who the only Ref was with CLEAR PATH vision of Wade climbing up Kawi's back? Good Ol' Jowey Crawford.


Him Swallowing his whistle on this CRITICAL play is enough for me, besides all the Pop shanaigans... Because he shouldn't have been assigned to the game in the first place.



So there you have it folks!!!! Jowey Crawford LITERALLY, beyond a SHADOW OF A DOUBT, by the letter of the NBA rule book, Screwed Tim Duncan out of his 5th Title....



I guess revenge is sweet, and he got the ultimate.


Go to the 2:36:35 mark in this video:

[Walulu]

Beyond a shadow of a doubt? It's all your opinion, you have no knowledge of what was actually seen. It's so much easier to make calls from your couch.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^^^ The Heat were climbing all over the Spurs back most of the series but were seldom called. I really don't think the refs were conspiring. They seemed to let a lot of stuff go on both sides. This is one time I don't think you can blame the refs. Sure they missed some calls both ways but in the end you just want it to be fair.

Now Pops on the other hand? He wasn't even giving his team a chance. Straight up sabotage. What most people here need to rationalize is whether he screwed up so many times (like 20 in 2 games) because he was incompetent or because something else was going on? For all the people that think the few people in this thread blaming Pops for fixing are crazy. Can you come up with a more logical explanation? Do you really believe Pops is that stupid??? Please explain to me all the missteps? Explain to me having Duncan and Splitter on the floor with a few seconds left and you're down 3?? You cannot honestly explain that shit.

[Wojo]

I read an interesting thread at another forum that claims Erik Spoelstra was fixing the series for the Spurs to win. It was very convincing!

It talked about why Spoelstra kept Lebron in Game 5 for so long when he was just 8 of 22 and was playing so below average! Even more upsetting was why Chris Bosh played so much when he had a terrible series. Also, why was Wade on the bench in a number of key situations?

I am very concerned that Spoelstra will continue to fix games next season.

[horja1]

I read an interesting thread at another forum that claims Erik Spoelstra was fixing the series for the Spurs to win. It was very convincing!

It talked about why Spoelstra kept Lebron in Game 5 for so long when he was just 8 of 22 and was playing so below average! Even more upsetting was why Chris Bosh played so much when he had a terrible series. Also, why was Wade on the bench in a number of key situations?

I am very concerned that Spoelstra will continue to fix games next season.

They were all ACTING ... but reallytho saw through all of that and recognized the REAL FIX

[upscope]

Love how people think their opinion is actually fact & everybody else is retarded if they don't agree.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Spoelstra didn't have many options. You take Bosh out (he played pretty good to be honest), who are you going to go to? Birdman and Haslem were both getting abused... Joel Anthony? Take out Lebron and put in who? He had to ride the horses because that's all he has in the stable. Pops on the other hand had several options, which he played and was working. He just kept going back to what wasn't working which is highly questionable.

Spo is also not as experienced as Pops, although he is very good IMO. Spo gets a pass. Pops gets a big fukkk you.

I read an interesting thread at another forum that claims Erik Spoelstra was fixing the series for the Spurs to win. It was very convincing!

It talked about why Spoelstra kept Lebron in Game 5 for so long when he was just 8 of 22 and was playing so below average! Even more upsetting was why Chris Bosh played so much when he had a terrible series. Also, why was Wade on the bench in a number of key situations?

I am very concerned that Spoelstra will continue to fix games next season.

[hotelis]

too much neal and dribbling green on the floor. why was Diaw benched in game 7?

[Mac4Lyfe]

Yeah, we all believe what we believe. You can't change what/how someone believes. I agree, It doesn't make sense to belittle people for what they think.

I started this thread for one reason... Popobitch looked like he took a dive. I talked to other people, I asked them what they thought, and MANY people said that Pops looked suspect. That his decisions were egregious, confounding, flat out stupid. It is easier to think that he had to be on the take than it is to explain his stupidity.

Love how people think their opinion is actually fact & everybody else is retarded if they don't agree.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Especially when in this series, Diaw was the best Lebron defender?

Lebron and Wade were the only 2 Heat players scoring in the 2nd half. Why wouldn't you double team them as soon as they both touched the ball? There is no way you just let them keep scoring on you. The people taking up for Pops are really saying that Pops was asleep at the wheel?

too much neal and dribbling green on the floor. why was Diaw benched in game 7?

[Mac4Lyfe]

BTW - Bosh, Allen, and Miller combined to play 67 minutes and shoot 0-14 yet somehow Pops refused to double Lebron and Wade??? Incompetence or fix???

[reallytho]

Beyond a shadow of a doubt? It's all your opinion, you have no knowledge of what was actually seen. It's so much easier to make calls from your couch.

I have "no knowledge of what was actually seen" ?


He was looking RIGHT AT the play,.... LOL. Are you suggesting he's legally blind at sporadic moments?



It's amazing.... Even when you provide CONCRETE proof, they still want to make excuses...




A few more notes:


-On the same play Wade fouled lenard Over the back (that Joey Crookford didn't call), Mike Miller pushed Diaw about 3 feet, with BOTH HANDS, and the other ref (Mike Callahan) saw that one... With no whistle.... It's sort of hard to get a rebound when people are pushing you out of the way....


-The Green / Ginobli controversial calls were 10000000000000% fouls.... Both of them were fouled, I watched the tapes closely...



THe craziest part? The SAME REF "blew" BOTH CALLS..... So, you don't give the Spurs the benefit of the doubt, on EITHER CALL? (even though they should've gotten both calls?).

For the same ref to make 2 "Mistakes" in the last 5 seconds (literally) is hilarious.




So, to sum things up... 4 calls were missed in the last 28 seconds / overtime that cost the spurs the title... 1 call was blown by a crooked ref, Joey Crawford (as stated by the NBA themselves).... The other 3 (Green foul, Ginobli foul, Mike Miller push in the back on Diaw foul)... Were all "blown" by the same Ref, Mike Callahan.




It's like a murder scene.... More and more damning evidence collected EVERYDAY ... lol.



Anyone who also knows this was fixed, pass this thread around so it gets traction... Anyone who READS THIS will have no choice to agree with the truth eventually.

[reallytho]

^^^ The Heat were climbing all over the Spurs back most of the series but were seldom called. I really don't think the refs were conspiring. They seemed to let a lot of stuff go on both sides. This is one time I don't think you can blame the refs. Sure they missed some calls both ways but in the end you just want it to be fair.

Now Pops on the other hand? He wasn't even giving his team a chance. Straight up sabotage. What most people here need to rationalize is whether he screwed up so many times (like 20 in 2 games) because he was incompetent or because something else was going on? For all the people that think the few people in this thread blaming Pops for fixing are crazy. Can you come up with a more logical explanation? Do you really believe Pops is that stupid??? Please explain to me all the missteps? Explain to me having Duncan and Splitter on the floor with a few seconds left and you're down 3?? You cannot honestly explain that shit.

Don't get me wrong, I think Pop is more in on a fix than the Refs...


I was just saying, there is no way in hell, Joey Crawford should be assigned to a San Antonio spurs game in the FINALS... Why even OPEN YOURSELF UP to that type of scrutiny?



It'd be like if a Baby Sitter got suspended for half a year, for shaking a Baby.... Then, 7 years later, when the baby is trying to make it out of the 2nd grade, you have the same baby sitter helping the kid with their homework.... And the kid turns in screwed up homework, and fails their grade...


Why even OPEN THIS can of worms? When you have 100 other baby sitters available? That defies logic and common sense.


This is just more ammo that makes the league dumb as shit. They DID NOT want the Spurs to win. I'm not saying they instructed Joey to do anything, I'm just saying they gave him an opportunity to enact revenge on a personal vendetta if he had one.... Why would a BILLION DOLLAR corporation do this?


For the record, the Spurs are 2-12 in the playoffs with Joey Crawford reffing the games. And intentional or not, he cost them this one.

[reallytho]

BTW - Bosh, Allen, and Miller combined to play 67 minutes and shoot 0-14 yet somehow Pops refused to double Lebron and Wade??? Incompetence or fix???

There's NO WAY in a championship game you continue to leave someone open after they've hitten 5 or 6 shots.... 1 shot? ok.. 2? ok.. 3? ok... 4? ok... 5? ok... 6? ok...


7th 8th shots... You don't start to double team them? Do something different? Send 2 men at Lebron at the TOP of the key before he can even settle?


Pop wasn't even trying to win the game... More like trying rig it without being obvious.



And I just want to say, I haven't belittled anyone for their opinion... If you go back and look, anyone I've called names, came at me first (and lets just be brutally honest...... Some of them are imbeciles, lol.... I call them that because I can't think of a better way to put it.... They are acting like ALIENS will land on Earth before a coach would DARE EVER fix a game... That's an IMBECILE to me... it's no better way to describe it... If they disagree, they disagree, nothing wrong there.... But to act like it's IMPOSSIBLE, to act like we are practically "looking for big foot", as one guy put it, that's where the imbecibles, cretins, and other name calling comes in... Because frankly, that's what they are).

[horja1]

It'd be like if a Baby Sitter got suspended for half a year, for shaking a Baby.... Then, 7 years later, when the baby is trying to make it out of the 2nd grade, you have the same baby sitter helping the kid with their homework.... And the kid turns in ****** up homework, and fails their grade...


Why even OPEN THIS can of worms? When you have 50 other baby sitters available? That's all I'm saying.

Now you really convinced me it was a FIX

[Wojo]

too much neal and dribbling green on the floor. why was Diaw benched in game 7?

The Spurs were outscored by 18 points by the Heat when Diaw was on the floor in Game 7, the worst number of any Spur in Game 7.

[hotelis]

not to mention defensive assignments on lebron and Wade! lebron goes 50% from 3pt line, DWade just scores uncontested jumpers one after another but still, spurs think they must defend their drives to the basket...

[Mr Handicapable]

The Spurs were outscored by 18 points by the Heat when Diaw was on the floor in Game 7, the worst number of any Spur in Game 7.

That stat is kind of weird anyway. Diaw hit his only 3....wasn't turning it over and actually made some beautiful entry passes to Duncan in the series. No reason he shouldn't have played over Ginobili in gm 6 or Green in gm 7.

As for the "fix"...still don't see who benefits? Public makes much much more on Miami so they're out. I guess that leaves Stern and the league. Makes some sense but its a weak ass way to change the outcome. Its like trying to drown someone by leaving the tub running. They don't have to do much to keep from dying.

[Wojo]

For the record, the Spurs are 2-12 in the playoffs with Joey Crawford reffing the games. And intentional or not, he cost them this one.

That record of Joey Crawford in Spurs' playoff games is wrong.

First, you have Game 6 this year where the Spurs beat the Warriors Crawford reffed. I then randomly picked a year, 2004-05, to check other Spurs games. It took me about 4 minutes to find two more games Crawford refereed that the Spurs won: The May 22 win at Phoenix in the West Finals and the 6-23-05 win over Detroit in Game 7 of the Finals.

I didn't even bother looking at the many other years the Spurs were in the playoffs as this is obviously a fabricated record.

Don't know where you got your stat, but a typical conspiracy theorist task is to create fake data to support their agenda.

[Wojo]

That stat is kind of weird anyway. Diaw hit his only 3....wasn't turning it over and actually made some beautiful entry passes to Duncan in the series.

It surprised me, also. It is not a stat that you can always rely on to be entirely accurate about a player's on-court performance, but I quoted it because it was such a large negative.

[Mr Handicapable]

Also why does the NBA always get accused of cheating by 60% of the people on here and the NFL gets off scot free. That Pittsburgh/Seattle SB trainwreck was 10x worse than this Heat/Spurs series. The Steelers got every phantom call in the book...even calling back a Seattle TD with some bogus call. Cowher was due maybe....Bettis a nice story with his last season. Maybe Holmgren pissed off the NFL brass?

Even the Arizona/Steeler SB had some shady calls....by the way there is obv more Mafia involvement in the east (Pittsburgh?) than anywhere else in the country. I challenge anyone to see Harrison's TD int return and tell me he didn't roll into the endzone from the 1 with no time left after being hit by Fitzgerald. That was the key play of the game probably. Instead of a Ariz. fg attempt...Steelers get a gift TD.

The only thing anyone really has on the NBA is Donaghy and fixing totals doesn't really affect winners/losers...it was brilliant actually.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^^^ I don't think the refs were conspiring to fix this series. I don't think Stern would either. He really didn't care once the Heat were in the finals in my opinion. If the Heat wins, he wins, if they lose, he still wins because a lot of people hate the Heat.

I don't know where that Diaw stat came from because it was clear to anyone watching this series that the Spurs were much better when he was on the floor.

My only complaint is Pops. I cannot imagine him being that incompetent. It doesn't make sense to me. I've never seen him make so many mistakes in 2 straight games. If it was one bad game interspersed with another bad game a month later, okay. But, back to back games, multiple screw ups. Come on. I have to think he was on the take.

[Mr Handicapable]

^^^ I don't think the refs were conspiring to fix this series. I don't think Stern would either. He really didn't care once the Heat were in the finals in my opinion. If the Heat wins, he wins, if they lose, he still wins because a lot of people hate the Heat.

I don't know where that Diaw stat came from because it was clear to anyone watching this series that the Spurs were much better when he was on the floor.

My only complaint is Pops. I cannot imagine him being that incompetent. It doesn't make sense to me. I've never seen him make so many mistakes in 2 straight games. If it was one bad game interspersed with another bad game a month later, okay. But, back to back games, multiple screw ups. Come on. I have to think he was on the take.

Well if the public is on Miami and Stern/refs aren't in on it then I'm really stumped? What is Pops motivation? Some of the Birdmans boys have his family holed up in a meth lab? I will agree the whole thing
with Pop was weird? Somehow when there is some weird random event or fix...or stupidity I find a way to be on the wrong side of it. When have you seen a 70 yd hail mary in a playoff game with 30 seconds left? The franco harris play and the Flacco throw. I bet on a game when the once every 40 years play happens. Makes sense. I'd know if I hit one like that with a big bet and its never happened.

[TheMLBKing]

lmao OP is pathetic, I'm sure Chip Kelly was on the fix when he had Oregon put 59 up on Cal.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Once again, I had money on Miami.

Everyone knows that Pop did weird shit. I can understand a hail mary or a random event. This was a series of events ALL happening in less than 48 hours. You yourself even said that if Pop would put Green in at a certain point that he would look shady and he did just what you questioned. Pops made over 15+ suspect coaching decisions in a 48 hour span. This was not some random event. This was a series of bullshit events. I am amazed how easily anyone can let Pops off the hook. He obviously is the perfect bag man.

Well if the public is on Miami and Stern/refs aren't in on it then I'm really stumped? What is Pops motivation? Some of the Birdmans boys have his family holed up in a meth lab? I will agree the whole thing
with Pop was weird? Somehow when there is some weird random event or fix...or stupidity I find a way to be on the wrong side of it. When have you seen a 70 yd hail mary in a playoff game with 30 seconds left? The franco harris play and the Flacco throw. I bet on a game when the once every 40 years play happens. Makes sense. I'd know if I hit one like that with a big bet and its never happened.

[Git Lo]

Pretty obvious OP = reallytho and you clearly had spurs ml

[reallytho]

not to mention defensive assignments on lebron and Wade! lebron goes 50% from 3pt line, DWade just scores uncontested jumpers one after another but still, spurs think they must defend their drives to the basket...

Pop just "made a few mistakes" bro *wink*

[Wojo]

Nobody has mentioned that Lebron was shooting 38% in the first 6 games. Why not keep the same defense against him?
Wade has sucked from outside all season. Why guard his jump shot? Look at the metrics, you let Wade shoot!

reallytho's arguments are incredibly sophomoric (and totally incorrect) . He's quoted fabricated, probably on his own, statistics to support his crusade against the best coach in the NBA.

I'll try to find the arguments on another site saying Spoelstra fixed the series to lose but screwed up and won. It sounds exactly like reallytho's argument! Very funny!

[hotelis]

it was evident that Wade's and Lebron's jumpers must be guarded after the 1st quarter.

[reallytho]

Nobody has mentioned that Lebron was shooting 38% in the first 6 games. Why not keep the same defense against him?

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I must say, this board breeds some INCREDIBLY idiotic, dumb people... Not even name calling, I'm just calling it what it really is.


This discussion would be so much for interesting on a board where the posters, outside of a few, aren't brain dead imbeciles.