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  • cocknocker
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    • 11-06-08
    • 8001

    #1
    Leans for Monday 1/12/09
    Today we have an open board day, as I don't necessarily like the lineup for the NBA board for today. I found one nugget that I discussed with Dexter yesterday, but really that was about it...

    Oh my, the aches and pains of losing a PC Play are still lingering in my mind. But it's snap back Monday. What I noticed yesterday was an overall tone of guys and girls who thought that they knew it all and were not in a good mood at the end of the day. To be fair, I realize that I have a certain amount of responsibility for the avid followers of this thread, but now it's time for me to kick back and relax for a change, and allow those who had all of the answers yesterday to have a chance to prove themselves with a clean slate and an open floor. All of the gentlemen who had so many negative things to say yesterday evening now have a chance to put their nuts on the table and convince me as to how I should invest my $1500.00 today. Certain people have to be called out however for their transgressions to give me plays that I should play, for their criticism was the most direct and must be responded to with like kind energy:

    jaymac82980 (Who is against PC Plays from now on)
    nzwarrior
    cheesehead004
    willpies

    No offense taken from the words you spoke, but now you 4 have to contribute before the game begins and give me a pick and a credible reason as to why I should play your pick. It's easy to be the critic, much harder to be the performer. It's time to dance. So now you guys get a chance to be me for a day. But please know that I won't talk down on you if I use YOUR play and it loses. I'm not like that. I'm not like you. But I'm a fair man, and turnabout is fair play, no? You lose all credibility if you don't contribute to this thread after the harshness of your criticism.

    So morever, I want the board as a whole to give me plays that will convince me that I need to invest my $1500.00 on them.

    Ladies and gentlemen, you have the floor. Show me the money!

    The games that I like are Portland-2 and Utah -10.5 projected
  • MarkHammond
    Restricted User
    • 12-12-08
    • 247

    #2
    CK i dont know why you even bother responding to them. No matter what they will complain when you lose. Ignore them
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    • cocknocker
      Restricted User
      • 11-06-08
      • 8001

      #3
      Uh-uh, MarkHammond, that would be too easy. It's time for them to put their nuts on the table now. It's a grown man's sport this thing of ours...I actually wouldn't mind seein what they are made of now. This should be interesting
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      • jaymac82980
        SBR MVP
        • 01-08-09
        • 3416

        #4
        wait, CK, you said "you 3", but there are 4 names...am I one of the people you are looking for a pick from?
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        • GreatDanes52
          SBR Sharp
          • 01-12-09
          • 297

          #5
          CK I'm new to the forum but I've been a fan of your picks for a long time. I was just wondering what you thought about the Milwaukee/Washington over 190. The line went down from 191. Also, what do you think about the Oklahoma City/ New Jersey over 201? Thanks kid
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          • Devon
            SBR Sharp
            • 11-25-08
            • 371

            #6
            Man, jaymac, he had three initially before he remembered there were four and edited the post!
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            • cs11787
              SBR MVP
              • 08-26-08
              • 1088

              #7
              Hey CK I know the whole back to back thing but dont you think Boston will clean up toronto tomorrow at their place? I see these two teams and I see mismatches all over the floor. Toronto played a great 4th qtr and thats what kept some people (who got Bos -6) from winning. Other than that, I see Bos rolling over Toronto tomorrow.
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              • squirrels
                SBR Rookie
                • 01-10-09
                • 18

                #8
                with you here cs11 like boston here this game today wasnt as close as the score says, boston comes back home tommorow and exploits toronto, waiting on line to come up
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                • cs11787
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-26-08
                  • 1088

                  #9
                  Bos pushed the spread today at -6 so Im guessin the line tomorrow might be somewhere around Bos -10? Also of course I was one of those unlucky people who got it at 6! Lol.
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                  • cocknocker
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-06-08
                    • 8001

                    #10
                    Don't worry jaymac82980, i will adjust the statement, you just adjust the picks. i'm sure that you know wht I am talking about without the nitpicking.
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                    • jaymac82980
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-08-09
                      • 3416

                      #11
                      Devon, I'm up to the challange - if there was one, but CK doesn't even notice me, so he probably wrote "3" forgetting about me anyways... I hope I'm not in the same class as the other 3, but I can handle the heat if that is the case. I do know that my frustrations were not that harsh, as all I did was post 1 comment against the "PC Play". But if CK wants to take it to heart, I am fully ready to produce a winner tomorrow.

                      But I do want to go on record saying that I am not the hater that CK may think I am. A person losing a great deal of money is expected to express frsutrations, either it is out loud or through a chat forum. No offense meant.
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                      • jaymac82980
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-08-09
                        • 3416

                        #12
                        looks like I am in fact being callled out! CK, even though I think you took my frustration the wrong way, I am up to the task. Can this pick be either a line, or an over/under? and after I produce a winning pick, can it be referred to as the JM Play? of course only when it wins.
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                        • lambogb
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 01-06-09
                          • 278

                          #13
                          these are all leans from an amateur, im 40%+ u can check out my spreadsheet.. i usually follow CK =( and my own whims ingame .. also i bet low stakes so take these for what theyre worth.. i use sports interaction and these lines are cloesd right now and will probably change whent hey open (between 5am and 8am est usually)

                          OKC +7.5


                          im liking OKC to cover +7.5 (closed and will probably changed)against the nets.. harris and yi out, im scared to bet on OKC bc theyre one of the worst teams, but durant has come through more than a few times (even when i didnt want him to)

                          Boston -9

                          i like cs11787's boston prediction (my spread looks like -9, again closed likely to change), i think todays win will boost boston

                          Mil -3

                          im not sure what to think on Mil v. Wash... id take Mil ML but the spread looks like -3 riight now (closed...).. i have no concrete facts to recycle about why i think washington is bad

                          NOH -12

                          west and paul

                          Indiana +10

                          i think they covered against the lakers, warriors, and phoenix.... i think they score so much that theyll cover.. i dont know anything about the matchup

                          ... ill probably be very easy to convince to change these by someone with a high post count and a winnign record

                          BOL!!!!
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                          • Dexter
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-24-08
                            • 25829

                            #14
                            jaymac - you acted so cool with me the past few days, then you go out and state how you are going against the pc play next time? why would you make a comment like that? have you never lost a game before? sorry bro - but i like interacting with cool people, who bring something to the table. whats up jay? i got hammered this week - do you see me crying and pointing fingers? you essentially did by saying what you did...
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                            raptors and celts playing a home and home - always love to take the loser in the 2nd game - raptors ran out of time with a furious comeback sunday - lucky for them - they get to continue tomorrow in boston.

                            -raptors
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                            pacers on a back to back while the jazz will be rested and waiting in salt lake - last 2 visits for indiana have resulted in 22 pt wins by the jazz. much of the same here, especially if the pacers win in golden state.

                            -jazz
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                            • SharkMerc
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 12-20-08
                              • 112

                              #15
                              Hey whats up CK been following ur threads for a while now, but havent taken the liberty to post until now.. Your pretty consistant with your picks, cool that you let your people make the plays for u today lol. What do you think about these plays:
                              -Mil -2.5:
                              Miluakee is a road covering machine, taking on a the wizards who struggle to cover at home, also mil has taken the last 3 out of 4 matches ats..
                              -Utah:
                              not sure what the spread is on this one yet, but im leaning towards the jazz, well let me know if u like these picks..
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                              • playtowin123
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 11-28-08
                                • 23

                                #16
                                My play for tommorrow is the Chicago Bulls +2 1/2 against the Blazers. In the Blazers past 3 games on the road they are 0-3 straight up. The Bulls are a so-so 2-2 at home in their past four games and are coming off an embaressing loss to the THunder that I can only hope they wish to avenge in their next hoem game. The best part of betting the Bulls tommorrow is the match-up of Rose aginst Blake. I think Rose will have a field day driving to the rack tommorrow. Him being able to beat Blake up top will make it a constant 4 vs 5 in favor of the Bulls on the offensive end. Also, even though Roy came back off his hamstring injury in their last game there is no way he is 100% yet as I've had the injury and know that the injury hurts just as much the next day after your first game back. So with that said, Ill take Rose and the points at home tommrrow as my play of the day.
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                                • Dexter
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-24-08
                                  • 25829

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jaymac82980
                                  looks like I am in fact being callled out! CK, even though I think you took my frustration the wrong way, I am up to the task. Can this pick be either a line, or an over/under? and after I produce a winning pick, can it be referred to as the JM Play? of course only when it wins.
                                  jay - out of curiosity, how old are you?
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                                  • jaymac82980
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-08-09
                                    • 3416

                                    #18
                                    dex, did I really say anything? Before the game was over I posted a comment saying the game was over and that I'm not betteing any pc plays anymore? did I mean to hurt any feelings? of course not! Did you even think twice when I said it? No. So obviously now you are changing your mind. I have been going back and forth with you over games lately, and you have seen that I am a reasonable person. If you are taking what I said for more than it is worth I feel bad, the same goes to CK, but I have not actually "bad mouthed" anyone. I think you have it wrong.
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                                    • jaymac82980
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-08-09
                                      • 3416

                                      #19
                                      dex, simple math will tell you how old I am, my DOB is in my name.
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                                      • Dexter
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-24-08
                                        • 25829

                                        #20
                                        i didnt see the comment until now....no worries then bro.

                                        the spotlight is on you now though! haha - good luck...
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                                        • jaymac82980
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-08-09
                                          • 3416

                                          #21
                                          Dex, weren't you just trying to let Sam understand earlier that words on a thread don't mean anything, and not to take offense?
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                                          • jaymac82980
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-08-09
                                            • 3416

                                            #22
                                            So Dex, you see that I am being grouped with idiots?
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                                            • cs11787
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-26-08
                                              • 1088

                                              #23
                                              Lam,
                                              I cant find the Bos line anywhere. If it is Bos -9 looks like I was almost right on the money. This might be one of the best plays tomorrow in my opinion. Im sure the line will climb a point or two by game time. GL to you!
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                                              • Dexter
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-24-08
                                                • 25829

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jaymac82980
                                                So Dex, you see that I am being grouped with idiots?
                                                at second glance, you actually stated you were going against the play next time - thats not right..all of a sudden, these picks that have lined our pockets with cash turns to fade material? cmon jay - ck has every right to call you out with that comment...

                                                "screw the pc play, im against next time"
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                                                • squirrels
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 01-10-09
                                                  • 18

                                                  #25
                                                  bos -9 like you i havet seen this anywhere, everywhere i look this game is off the board for now, dont think line will be out until morning
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                                                  • ram1502
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-26-08
                                                    • 822

                                                    #26
                                                    Bucks traveling to DC to take on the mighty Wizzleskins. Wizards have lost 4 in a row and despite their strong home record of 5-14 (laughable), I look for the Bucks to easily cover 3 on the road here. They are, after all, 24-13 ATS this season. In the Bucks last 5 road games vs. a sub-.500 team they are an immaculate 5-0 SU and an impressive 4-1-0 ATS.

                                                    -----> Bucks -2.5

                                                    Blazers travel to Chicago, to visit the young and inexperienced, but talented Bulls squad. The Bulls are coming off a disappointing overtime loss to the dreadful Thunder on Saturday night. This came after winning 2 of their first 3 of their current 5-game home stand. The Bulls are 1-4 ATS & SU in their last five games coming off of only 1 day of rest. In addition, they are 1-4 ATS their last five games following a loss. Look for the Blazers to have worked out the minutes mixing with Roy coming back into the lineup and cover the short number on the road. In addition, the Blazers have been dogs in 9 of their 10 road losses (the only exception being a 5 point loss @ Golden State, a game in which they were -1.5). Of those 10 losses, 9 were against top-tier teams (i.e. Lakers(twice), Jazz(twice), Suns(twice), Hornets, Celtics, and Nuggets). As road favorites, the Blazers are 5-1 SU but only 2-4 ATS, with an average handicap of 4 and winning by an average of 6 points. Against a struggling, underachieving Bulls team struggling to find a true identity, I have to go with the better team here and bet against the team who lost to the freakin' Thunder on their own home court. These Bulls, just last week, beat a weak Kings squad by a measley 5 points at home and squeaked out a 2 point win at home against the Wizzleskins. Do you really think they can beat the Blazers? I don't!!!
                                                    (As an aside, the Blazers have beat the Magic(PR4), Pistons(PR10), Heat(PR11), Raptors(PR18), and Knicks(PR19), all on the road this season who all have a higher power ranking than this lowly Bulls(PR23) team)

                                                    -----> Blazers -1.5 (hook buy)

                                                    EDIT: Blazers already getting some love...line at -2.5 now....-3.5 at some places.
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                                                    • jaymac82980
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-08-09
                                                      • 3416

                                                      #27
                                                      cs, if boston is -9 I would go with toronto. for one, the b2b thing works against boston, and then the fact that boston is stinking up the joint lately (I AM A CELTICS FAN), and also the fact that as of late, even when boston has a lead they are unable to hold onto it. I would take toronto +9 if thats the spread you are given. 9 is a lot for boston to hold onto, and we have all seen it lately.
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                                                      • jaymac82980
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-08-09
                                                        • 3416

                                                        #28
                                                        well, then CK has calle dme out. I can handle it. It was a comment. Words are what they are...WORDS. they can't hurt, and they don't necessarilty mean harm. But if they bothered certain individuals than so be it. It's a thread online, I meant nothing by it. I value the insights I gain from this site. I won't apologize for it further. All I'll do is offer my pick for a game tomorrow. If you guys like it you take it, if not, you ignore it. Just like I did with the "pc play". If you read a little further past my comment that you posted, you will see a similar sentence. Something along the lines of me admitting that I'm an adult, and that I liked the play so I took, and I have nobody to blame but myself. Read everything I posted if you are going to call me out for one post!
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                                                        • squirrels
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 01-10-09
                                                          • 18

                                                          #29
                                                          jaymac dont think the line is 9 here i think someone got wrong number, i like boston in this spot, but not at 9 with them not being able to extend a lead and hold it, think line will be about 7 tommorow, but if it is 9 im laying off
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                                                          • jaymac82980
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-08-09
                                                            • 3416

                                                            #30
                                                            Dex, I assume when you are asking me how old I am, you are looking to use my age as an insult. I'm sorry if you think me asking to have my pick called the "JM Play" makes me immature, but it was a joke. People of any age can joke. I am not asking you how old you are because you accused me of being a jerk without readin all of my posts.
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                                                            • jaymac82980
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-08-09
                                                              • 3416

                                                              #31
                                                              squirells, b2b games between teams usually goes opposite, meaning that the team that won tonight, will lose tomorrow. Not 100%, but it is more often than not. Now I am a huge celts fan, but I will be the first to tell you, that if they are laying down points like 7 - especially in this scenario - take the points. Scal will not play as good as he did 2 days in a row, and perk will not be back tomorrow, and if he is he wont be 100%. If the line comes out at celts-7, take the raptore, even if they do smell horrible.
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                                                              • cocknocker
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 11-06-08
                                                                • 8001

                                                                #32
                                                                Enough of all the bullbleep. I don't give all of that nonsense to the visitors of this thread. You guys get it together and give me a pick or two without all of the back and forth. There is no point spread on wolf tickets. I want some solidly handicapped plays for me to put my $1500.00 on. That's it and that's all. i don't want any of the if's or maybe thing. That ain't gonna cut it.
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                                                                • lambogb
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 01-06-09
                                                                  • 278

                                                                  #33
                                                                  squirrels:


                                                                  all the nba lines open between 5am - 8 am EST at the earliest on this site, also half the lines move by a point or a half point
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                                                                  • cocknocker
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-06-08
                                                                    • 8001

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Well you guys aren't giving me anything credible yet. I'll tell you all what. I'll help you guys out. The game that I like is Utah minus anything tomorrow. And unless someobody gives me something good that will be the only game that I play. I am however looking for someone to convince me that Portland-2 isn't a spectacular play as well.
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                                                                    • lambogb
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 01-06-09
                                                                      • 278

                                                                      #35
                                                                      im really liking

                                                                      Mil up to -3
                                                                      Portland up to -3



                                                                      and im really leaning Toronto +9 or higher just because i don't think boston can cover...

                                                                      ... just weighing the present-day non-statistical factors...

                                                                      *** boston has been doing horrible, just going through the motions.. i didnt see the game today, but i can imagine ... and toronto is doing alot better, can boston do it again? ... advantage TORONTO

                                                                      *** toronto is still missing 2 starters, or 3? at least calderon and o'neal .... advantage BOSTON

                                                                      *** boston snaps the 4 game losing streak... ray allen may have his stroke back .. hit 8 treys ... advantage BOSTON

                                                                      *** toronto's motivation, i think, is limited to an infant sense of revenge, while boston has a chance to start its new streak and are probably feel good about playing toronto at home after already beating them, but maybe after snapping their losing streak, they are off their emotional high ... slight advantage BOSTON


                                                                      _____________

                                                                      also still leaning Hornets -12 or so , if the game is remotely close at the half the knicks will fall off hard in the 2nd.. just a flat out guess =P
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