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  • BigMoneyMan
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-14-08
    • 925

    #71
    Originally posted by cocknocker
    BigMoney,

    You spoke of the illuminati. They are wrong for controlling the flow of money the way that they do. I think the bigger thing that they are guilty of is the stripping of the average man and his capacity to have access to priviledged information. Which in turn infuses feminism into males, and destroys the fabric of the average home. It's not what you're taught, it's what you're not being taught that will effect you more. If someone would have taken me to the side a long time ago before i went to college and told me that in order to make money all you have to do is apply for a high end credit card make minimal purchases for a year or so, then apply for a card with a high allowance then use that card as a down payment on a lot fee for home in it's developmental stage, and then also hire a long legged gorgeous agent to sell it 30 days prior to completion and make a 95% profit with no money invested whatsoever, I would not have gone to college at all. I just would have cut straight to the chase.

    Being a student is useless if you do not make a business of your own. You can't go to school and then work at Kaiser hospital. It's not a craft then. You can't put your special touch on anything. It's a job. You can't get a degree in business and then work for a law firm too long. You have to open your own practice simultaneously and get clientelle while you learn as an apprentice. You can't become an A.S.E certified mechanic without opening up your own shop. It is alright to work at someone's shop for a while to see how it's done, but you've got to have your own, homes. Then the lessons of stocks are easier for a person to understand when they aren't a squirrel trying to get a nut, right? The information is easier to digest once you have a revolution in your own mind.

    But when the illuminati has the world by the throat and 70% of the people are not rich and must worry more than create what is a man to do? That eye on top of the pyramid on the dollar bill is there for a reason. There must be a mainstream an there must be mediocrity in order for everyone to be controlled. There will be no rebellion when brainwashing has been instilled from birth. The fact that we barter information in this thread alone is a revolutionary act. Now just think if world wide everyone decided one day to barter instead of use currency? Everything would come to a standstill. Much bigger than the standstill a few years ago when Latino workers did the one day boycott, which effected the economy so bad that the all the markets plummeted in response to unsurity whether the boycott would go on further than that.

    Stock options are one thing. Bank margins are one thing. But people are miliions and millions of things. More precious than a dollar bill. I burna dollar, and no one is effected. A child dies in a house fire and a generation is wiped out.

    Keeping your money liquid is by far one of the most valuable lessons that can be taught, yet is one of the hardest ones for a person to grasp if they are not hungry for that information. You and i tossed the ball around about your statements you made. I am thirsty for that knowledge. Being a margin player myself, i NEVER like for my stocks to sit still more than 3 months. I like to do short term quick investments, as you already know. I want mine now homes. Just like those who want our minds right now. Get it now. That's revolutionary, baby.

    I know everyone is tired of this rant by me and Biggie. But we don't just talk about sports all the time. Sometimes it's necessary to break things up a bit. Readers of my old threads know that every now and then we rap about different subjects too. Whatever...we'd better get back to sports before Spoon has a seizure, lol!

    What and what? You lost me g I am not playing college. I told yoiu I am fading my half time shit and recommend you do the same. Riding the kid except for reverse line. Call me.
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    • cocknocker
      Restricted User
      • 11-06-08
      • 8001

      #72
      pubster77,

      It costs $330.00 to make $300.00 when wagering -110. I usually make a wager at -130 on average. So i will put up 330.00 or so at -130 and put $30.00 on the moneyline for the other side.

      nonsense48,

      I disagree to the point that unless teams are completely rebuilt, (such as the Suns and the Bobcats) then yes past results are a HUGE part of research. And if you don't use that information to your advantage, you're not handicapping in a correct manner. Always use the past 5 results as a barometer or guage if you will to see what recent history has been. If you are researching a spread over 10, then go back 10 games in that same circumstance and see if the line has ever been 10 in that particular scenario.

      joanapoker,

      Yes i do totals, and actuallly I play them every now and then. I don't play them on the regular though, because the Pistons aren't playing in character. I used to always play the Pistons under the total, but without them, i don't do it as often. If I see a perfect trend, i will play one then.
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      • cocknocker
        Restricted User
        • 11-06-08
        • 8001

        #73
        BigMoney,

        I don't have to take this kind of bullbleep from a guy who has women call him and doesn't remember who they are, lol! You're my boy! You're lost, but I found ya. Craft man. Hone skills, make the most of your craft, and no more big ass 2nd half bets, right? Anyway, for college I like Kansas plus anything. I don't care if you like it or not!
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        • maddogmadden86
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-08-08
          • 898

          #74
          CK and Big money you guys are totally correct when talking about the market especailly with this panzi bs going on with george mardoff stealing billions from people the market has simply become nothing but a volatile get in and get out market, with so much liquidity in the market and on the side lines the market will always be as volitile as it is today, its so funny to see how in one month we can set over 10 intraday records for most points gain/losses in one day and largst percentage gains/losses in one day, me being a broker i have gotten rid of the buy and hold method and like CK said holding a position for no longer then 6-9 months if it hits my target before then i will cash out and move on, and like Big money said you should always implement a stop loss to narrow down what you will lose and if it drops down to a much better entry level point you hit that up and chacnes are you will see a rebound, Big Money i'm glad you havea knowledge of options we defaintly need to hook up after the holidays like around the 10th of january and i will lay you out what i'm looking at, especially in the options arena since i can tell thats what you like to do, i love that you know what a straddle is i try to talk to clients about them adn they think im speaking chinese no matter how simple i put it, also you want a great straddel trade every quarter place one on google right before they post earnings that shit is like a rollarcoaster when they post earnigns, now for basketball
          I'm taking the cavs to own at home and with ilgauskis back yao wont be able to dominate like he did last night agaisnt the height challenged nets
          also teh celtics as they will dismantle the sixers
          portland to avenge the nuggets from last night as they will have time to figure out how to stop them especially at home
          also taking the wizards and jazz copliments of CK and styles lets get that cash for the holidays
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          • rb4033
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 06-14-08
            • 866

            #75
            Love this teaser

            Lakers +7.5
            Cleveland -4.5

            GL!
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            • BmoreBucco
              SBR Sharp
              • 12-10-08
              • 278

              #76
              CK,

              Any particular reason you are leaning Boise St.? I know you probably aren't just going on a hunch. What kinda numbers did you crunch on this one?
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              • cocknocker
                Restricted User
                • 11-06-08
                • 8001

                #77
                BmoreBucco,

                I crunched ALL the numbers my good man. I actually have Boise as a slight favorite, so the fact that I am getting points is even better. The only reason why I don't have them favored by 3 in my rescoring model is because they are playing on grass. If this game were played on field turf, I would have them favored by more. I'll put it to you like this. When TCU played the Sooners, they got blown off. When the Broncos last played the Sooners, well you all know what happened. Boise s a great big game team
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                • shoebox
                  Restricted User
                  • 11-26-08
                  • 5710

                  #78
                  Here we go
                  Houston +7.5 might wait and see if I can get it at 8
                  Wyoming +18
                  New Mexico -9
                  Rockets ML
                  Wizards +6
                  also gonna roll with
                  -3.5(+210) boise st
                  +3 gm boisest
                  GL fellas
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                  • pronk
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-22-08
                    • 6887

                    #79
                    2 strong plays for tonight:

                    St.Louis -4

                    Creighton -7.5

                    GL.
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                    • joanapoker
                      Restricted User
                      • 12-09-08
                      • 2275

                      #80
                      CK

                      where do you see the consensus?

                      thx
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                      • shoebox
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-26-08
                        • 5710

                        #81
                        CK,
                        You might wanna be interested in an adjusted line -3.5(+210) for boise st
                        I like it I think im gonna roll with you on +3.5 too homes!!!!
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                        • africanroller
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-30-08
                          • 936

                          #82
                          Kellen Moore is going to be hit so many times tonight he isnt going to remember his name. TCU has giving up less then 50 yards a game rushing and Ian Johnson had 1 good game this year after he got married last offseason. TCU gives up 10 points a game and the only team that scored more then 14 points was Oklahoma. They crushed BYU and only lost 13-10 to Utah. TCU has played tough teams all year while Boise once again played a very easy schedule. The only ranked team they played was Oregon.

                          Dont even care if I place a wager, this is going to be the best non bcs game off the year.
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                          • maddogmadden86
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-08-08
                            • 898

                            #83
                            hey CK what are you waiting the line to be for the Mavs game
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                            • jglo2576
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 12-23-08
                              • 20

                              #84
                              Hello All,
                              Some fresh blood here. Not all that new to capping, just with my local. Not at all familiar however with the terms many of you use ... i.e. fading. Can somone throw me a bone?

                              Thanks and the intell/discussions are very helpful.
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                              • joanapoker
                                Restricted User
                                • 12-09-08
                                • 2275

                                #85
                                adding BOS -13 (I'm gonna keep with them when Power rating shows me an edge)
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                                • Broncos9798
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 12-02-08
                                  • 236

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by cocknocker
                                  Broncos9798,

                                  Okay, if you want brutal honesty, I can supply you with that. The Chargers will demolish the Broncos. They had their chance, and Buffalo took it away. The Chargers are blasting away to the finish line, getting hot at the right time, and Denver is not. This is a tale of two tams going in opposite directions. I have the Chargers winning by two touchdowns, homes.

                                  Denver Nuggets tonight? No. The Nuggets already got their "exscuse me" win last night with Carmelo out, but the truth is that they are out of gas, playing a young upstart team. One look at their schedule shows that the Nuggets have played a LOT of games in a short period of time. That doesn't bode well when facing a young hungry team like the Blazers. I think that Denver has a slight chance, but that is slight, and the Blazers would have to shoot horribly on order for them to get the cover. Nuggets get blown off by 10 tonight.
                                  CK,

                                  Thanks for the advise....I appreciate the honesty. I have decided to drop my home teams and roll with the only undefeated Broncos team I know....Boise State(I have watched 5-8 of there games and like the chances).

                                  GL tonight all!

                                  Boise State +3.5(-130)
                                  Utah Jazz - 1(-110)
                                  Dallas Mavericks -11(-110)
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                                  • cocknocker
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-06-08
                                    • 8001

                                    #87
                                    maddog,

                                    I am waiting for it to fall to 11 so i can take Dallas at -10, which is the desired number that i want to play it at. I think that they will win by 12 exactly. I don't want it to be too close for comfort. i want the 12 to give me a win, not a push, homes. And if i can get it at 10, then I get a little "push" help/possibility if the game ends at a 10 point game exactly.

                                    joanapoker,

                                    I use Sportsinsights. I think that it is better to get the consensus for 5 books instead of just 1 or two.

                                    shoebox,

                                    I have enough going on already. i don't usually like to wager on this many games, so whatever. You have to it, and let me know how it goes!

                                    Africanroller,

                                    I did a little checking. I looked at TCU's schedule and I didn't see too many balanced high powered offenses that they faced. When they faced Oklahoma, why.. you know what happened. Boise has the 12th ranked offense in the nation. Utah and TCU play all the time so they already know each other's playbook. No mysteries there. Boise is a mystery, and they will mix up the playbook unlike anything else the Horned Frogs have ever seen this year. They always saver their best for games like this.

                                    jglo2576,

                                    Go to Mark Lawrence's sight and get a quick tutorial on wagering phrases
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                                    • Spoon
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-21-08
                                      • 592

                                      #88
                                      Greek has not moved the line since 12:39AM, CK. The half should come off, but it might not. I took Dallas @ -9 at BetJam. The line moved a bit over there.
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                                      • shoebox
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-26-08
                                        • 5710

                                        #89
                                        Spoon,
                                        who ya got tonight?
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                                        • Spoon
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 11-21-08
                                          • 592

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by shoebox
                                          Spoon,
                                          who ya got tonight?
                                          Working on it now... had to do some shopping with the GF. I'll put them up on the board shortly.

                                          Did you look at these games or what.... Tell me something

                                          Wyoming +18
                                          New Mexico -9
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                                          • danrman
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-30-08
                                            • 2696

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by cocknocker
                                            Milwaukee doesn't have the depth or talent to win this game outright. They think they're world beaters after dispatching with the Clips the way that they did. But Utah is VERY well coached, and has no stars outside of Wlliams in the lineup, which means that there will be no problems with hustle. I'll take my chances with the Jazz on this one regardless of the line movement. If line movement was everything Denver wouldn't have gotten the cover yesterday based upon reverse line movement. I think the line maker is giving the Bucks too much respect for the blowout win. According to my math, I even had the Bucks winning by 4. However, Utah is deeper than the Bucks at all positions on the floor, and since the young guns have been getting time, the entire team is being developed instead of the synergy of the starting 5 and 2 bench players, which is what the Bucks are doing. Coach Skiles doesn't put much stock into the bench players on the Bucks. That will come back to bite them in this game. Milwaukee is in the same time zone as Utah, so there's no help for the Bucks there, and the Jazz have beaten the Bucks straight up the last three times they have visited, let alone cover any spread. The only way that Milwaukee covered against them was to get 8 points as a home dog. Whatever. I look for the Jazz to continue their winning ways against the Bucks. When a team is better than the other one, they're just better than them. It just is what it is...The Jazz have no business getting points in this game with no extra "hidden" injuries.
                                            milwaukee (cst).. utah-mountain time zone.. not same zone
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                                            • Spoon
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-21-08
                                              • 592

                                              #92
                                              Guys, please try not to include quotes that are lengthy in your post. We try to keep the pages to a minimum so it's easier for others to sift through the information.
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                                              • cocknocker
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-06-08
                                                • 8001

                                                #93
                                                I'm gonna keep on holding on, Spoon. It will drop for a precious few seconds today at some point
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                                                • cocknocker
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-06-08
                                                  • 8001

                                                  #94
                                                  I forgot that we have 4 zones, my bad. But you get the picture. And next time my good man, if you would please, not include a lengthy whole quote, but just include the part of the post that is necessary to get your point across. It's packing the threads with too much information
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                                                  • jglo2576
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 12-23-08
                                                    • 20

                                                    #95
                                                    CK, Book report is complete, appriciate the heads-up.

                                                    Have to keep riding the Cavs ... especially at home. The under seems to be a solid play as well. i just don't see HOU getting out of the 80's against Cavs D.

                                                    Aside from Utah, looking at laying the bigger numbers tonight.
                                                    Any thoughts?

                                                    CLE -7.5
                                                    DAL -11 and falling
                                                    BOS -13
                                                    Utah +1
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                                                    • shoebox
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 11-26-08
                                                      • 5710

                                                      #96
                                                      Spoon,
                                                      Wyoming is a team that has a very good offense and when playing a top 25 team you need to be able to score. There a team that has been shooting very well behind the arc, plus there averaging 84.2 points a game. There seventh in the nation in scoring. I think they shot above 40% from downtown there last couple of games. This year UCLA has had a hard time covering large spreads, especially the one you faded me on lol. Anyway, another notable according to the local newspaper is that Shipp for UCLA will likely be out, which will make for a much tougher cover for UCLA. The Bruins and Cowboys have two common opponents. UCLA beat Loyola Marymount 75-44 and Prairie View A&M 82-58. Wyoming beat LMU 62-55 and defeated Prairie View 80-75. Keep in mind that Shipp will most likeley be out

                                                      New Mexico is a rivalry game and I love the home team in this atmosphere. 93% of the dough is on NMST and the line has dropped 1.5 points. Im fading the public on this one completely. Usually see a home and home in this matchup. And being that the lobos just came off of a loss they will be ready to tackle the aggies.

                                                      GL
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                                                      • maddogmadden86
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-08-08
                                                        • 898

                                                        #97
                                                        gotcha CK i think i'm just gonna wait to see if the portland line can drop a little bit the point spread home/away and last 5 is in favor of the trailblazers and i like the fact they just played so they can figure out how to stop them even with out carmelo in this one, good luck with the mavs i cant stand them so i will jsut watch in hopes that you cash the ticket brother! Also i was some how lucky enough to get utah +1 with betus so i hit it hard lets do work tongiht CK!
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                                                        • Spoon
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 11-21-08
                                                          • 592

                                                          #98
                                                          I'll tell you what, Shoe, I'm going to trust you on this one because I'm looking at a bunch of other game and I got home late. Therefore, I'm going into this one blindly and hope for the best. This better not be one of those San Fran debacles, eh.

                                                          Btw, I have not found the time because I have other games ahead of this one, but could you tell me the deal on the UT reverse line movement?
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                                                          • HIGHestroller42
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 11-30-08
                                                            • 20

                                                            #99
                                                            yo ck

                                                            yo ck what do you think about timberwolves +12 tonight
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                                                            • walbjj
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 10-28-08
                                                              • 105

                                                              #100
                                                              is there value with port still being -8.5 and nj at +2.5 at my books?
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                                                              • BevoStevo
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 12-23-08
                                                                • 4

                                                                #101
                                                                CK, Pronk, Spoon, BigMoney, Shoe or anyone else that likes to cap coll bb,

                                                                What's your take on the Longhorns and Wisconsin tonight? I can't see UT losing back to back games. Then again, I am a UT alum and probably not thinking clearly. I know CK always talks about the revenge factor and this game fits the bill. Last year UT lost by one in the last seconds of an awesome game.

                                                                Any feedback would be appreciated.
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                                                                • Spoon
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 11-21-08
                                                                  • 592

                                                                  #102
                                                                  add: Hosftra -4 and Mavs -9

                                                                  Shoe, Hosftra line is moving because Iona's top player is out until next year (Jan or Feb) so see what you can do here. It's at -5 last time I checked.
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                                                                  • cocknocker
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-06-08
                                                                    • 8001

                                                                    #103
                                                                    pronk,

                                                                    I got ya. I've got small plays in on those!
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                                                                    • cocknocker
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 11-06-08
                                                                      • 8001

                                                                      #104
                                                                      BevoStevo,

                                                                      Wisconsin by 3, homes. They are tough at home against non-conference foes.
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                                                                      • innovator
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 11-28-08
                                                                        • 238

                                                                        #105
                                                                        CK, ever hit a crazy parlay?
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