MICHIGAN--5mike5

[5mike5]

Yeah I saw. You did it right, but I was wrong about it showing up larger that way.

You must be snapping extra small screenshots. Not sure how with Windows Snipping Tool though.

yeah i dont know either, i just snip it around the odds and save it

if u think of anything let me know

[Trident]

Double file restarts started with the August 09 race, the winners came from 1-7-8-10-17-17

Argue all you want but 4 of 6 started from the first five rows since they started double file restarts at Michigan.

[5mike5]

all i said is its not a must...17th isnt starting "up front" to me

its not an argument...

i know u like to disagree with me, but its just a differnce of opinion

[Trident]

I am not arguing with you I am stating a fact since the results speak for themselves, over half the winners at Michigan have come from the front two rows and two thirds of winners have come from the first ten starters.

Most times when they do come from far back it's because they gambled on fuel mileage like Martin did in 09 when he started 32nd which is the farthest back a winner has come from.

[5mike5]

i know who won, and when, and why... i do my homework or i wouldnt have results i do...17th isnt starting up front last 2 races and won

lots have been won from teens here and further back

thats not starting up front is all i said, u said its a "must" and its not( imo)

u felt the need to comment on my post and im just giving my side..

we just both look at it in different ways, not much else to say

[5mike5]

Staying on top of this thread this time Mike, losing out on all the cash!

GL swords

missed that u posted earlier buddy

NFL player props right around the corner

[Trident]

17th isnt starting up front last 2 races and won

But the four previous winners did start inside of the top ten but that doesn't count I guess.

No matter what I say I am wrong and you are right even though history says otherwise.

[5mike5]

[Optional]

You two are just looking at the numbers form different angles. An average start of 10th since 09 doesn't sound like you need a great quali run, but saying 4 out of 6 have started top 10 does.

[5mike5]

You two are just looking at the numbers form different angles. An average start of 10th since 09 doesn't sound like you need a great quali run, but saying 4 out of 6 have started top 10 does.

exactly my point

[5mike5]

optional, are u taking truck winners early or waiting?

[Optional]

1.5u on Kurt @ +385 and .5u on Kliggerman at +1700 so far.

Had any further thoughts on Peters or Beucsher?

[5mike5]

1.5u on Kurt @ +385 and .5u on Kliggerman at +1700 so far.

Had any further thoughts on Peters or Beucsher?

was hoping u had some advice on that....

just wondering if those 2 will get better later, but both over 8-1 right now....might stick to 2 i have and just wait and see how odds move after sessions

not sure what im doing, wish they posted H2Hs....no idea why greek/dimes have stopped it with trucks and nationwide early??

last 2 weeks no lines til after sessions

[Trident]

You two are just looking at the numbers form different angles. An average start of 10th since 09 doesn't sound like you need a great quali run, but saying 4 out of 6 have started top 10 does.

I am not looking at it in any angle I am looking at stone cold facts, I will take a 84 race sample over a two race sample till the cows come home. History says that 3/4 of the winners have started inside the top ten and that isn't a angle that's a fact.

The winner could very well start outside of the top 10 but history says that has only happened 20 times out of 86 races, if you start up front history says you have around a 75% chance of winning but if you start outside the top ten it drops to 25%, I don't know what you guys call that but I call it a must.

[5mike5]

but its happened 7 of last 11 races winner has come from 10th or worse...and ill take recent winner starting positions til cows come home...

so no i wouldnt call it a must...

its always better to start up front at any track

there are different ways to look at it....

[Trident]

but its happened 7 of last 11 races winner has come from 10th or worse...and ill take recent winner starting positions til cows come home...

So if you want to take recent winners then why not take 4 out of the last 6 then but I guess that wouldn't work since it would prove history has held up over the last six races.

I could go back 10 races then you would go back 13 and on and on and on, all I know is if my drivers start in the top ten history says I have a 75% chance of cashing a ticket but if I don't it drops to 25%, spin it anyway you want but I will take 75% over 25% till the cows come home.

[5mike5]

we just disagree, not why it bothers u so much what my opinions are?

u sure arent going to change them or prove them wrong...if i need the help i would ask, but my results show i definatley dont need any help

start ur own thread instead of proof-reading mine to look for things to disagree with me about...its wierd

because this is not worth arguing with some1 who always thinks hes the smartest guy in the room.... but isnt

[shaunovery]

Agree with mike we've been killing it recently

Mikes the crew chief of our little team and were Definately top of the standings ahead of the chase

[5mike5]

Opti, any truck decisions?

odds going down in about 90 min.

[5mike5]

smoke over kahne(-155), maxed for 3rd time

[Optional]

Think I will just stick with Kurt as my main man until we see some track times.

Peters has a good record on the track, and Beuscher hasnt started in a truck here, so guess I might lean Peters if forced to pick one before we see practice.

I notice Jack Roush's name next to 3 of the last 4 or 5 winners here btw.

[5mike5]

Think I will just stick with Kurt as my main man until we see some track times.

Peters has a good record on the track, and Beuscher hasnt started in a truck here, so guess I might lean Peters if forced to pick one before we see practice.

I notice Jack Roush's name next to 3 of the last 4 or 5 winners here btw.

i think buescher finished 4th here last year, and 16th in 2010

guess ill need to decide if ill just wait or go ahead with 1 of them

[Optional]

Sorry about the wrong info Mike, I am not on top of it yet this week yet.

[5mike5]

dont think i am either actually

[5mike5]

guess ill just wait until tomorrow morning b4 the truck race to decide anything else

really want to check out the H2Hs

[Optional]

guess ill just wait until tomorrow morning b4 the truck race to decide anything else

really want to check out the H2Hs

You're a damn action junkie.

Football will give you something to hit on days like this soon ;-)

[5mike5]

lol...who me???

[Optional]

McDowell 3 or 4 10ths faster than the field in first laps off the truck in Montreal... beware team #18 again here.

[Optional]

McDowell 3 or 4 10ths faster than the field in first laps off the truck in Montreal... beware team #18 again here.

Oops... make that almost a second better with 2 fast laps on board.

[Optional]

Oops... make that almost a second better with 2 fast laps on board.

Oops again, the Cannucks Ville and Fellows outdo him on their 2nd laps. (damn it...was hoping he would have a real edge off truck)

[5mike5]

he was bet down to +700 this morning too

glad we got on that early

[Optional]

he was bet down to +700 this morning too

glad we got on that early

Really? That's awesome.

I'd like to know where he ended up at Bookmaker where I snagged him at +1500

[5mike5]

he seems to be blistering the field in avg. lap speeds as well

[5mike5]

who is alex tagliani driving for this week, turner?

[Optional]

who is alex tagliani driving for this week, turner?

Think so, #30 is their number.