MICHIGAN--5mike5

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 05:34 PM

u guys think Tags maybe a contender tomorrow?

**MatI** · 08-17-12, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

u guys think Tags maybe a contender tomorrow?

Big chance to win.

He is also driving the same car Piquet took to the win at Road America.

**shaunovery** · 08-17-12, 05:40 PM

What's the difference driving a indycar to a nationwide car

**MatI** · 08-17-12, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by shaunovery

What's the difference driving a indycar to a nationwide car

They both have 4 wheels! But similarity stops there.

But usually if you are solid in indycar, you can hussle a nascar around a road course no dramas.

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 05:44 PM

i cant wait for this race tomorrow

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 05:46 PM

cant wait to see some H2H matchups and prices

ill probably add a 3rd to win this race, got good prices early so should be worth it

**Optional** · 08-17-12, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by MatI

Big chance to win.

He is also driving the same car Piquet took to the win at Road America.

Why did I have in my head McD had won RA?? Even backed Piquet there LOL

Tags looking hot. His car looked flat and easily able to take that last corner next to wall of chaps fast without kerb hopping. Not many others I saw did.

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 05:48 PM

all of the Montreal nationwide odds should be posted tonight i would think

usually never takes long after qualifying for them to post them up

**MatI** · 08-17-12, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Why did I have in my head McD had won RA?? Even backed Piquet there LOL

Tags looking hot. His car looked flat and easily able to take that last corner next to wall of chaps fast without kerb hopping. Not many others I saw did.

I ended up only taking Ville early, will wait until closer to race to take Kyle.

Not sure why I didn't take Tags as i had him circled all week but below the other 2 i mentioned. I doubt it will be worth taking him now but ill be checking him out in any h2h props.

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by MatI

I ended up only taking Ville early, will wait until closer to race to take Kyle.

Not sure why I didn't take Tags as i had him circled all week but below the other 2 i mentioned. I doubt it will be worth taking him now but ill be checking him out in any h2h props.

i think i will see who hes up against in H2Hs as well Mati....and every1 else

i got ville and mcdowell early, and may add 1 more but not sure til i see odds

**MatI** · 08-17-12, 05:51 PM

btw guys, love this video. http://youtu.be/H4VPB7D54lk

Can't wait for the Jersey GP. I'm thinking of going...

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 05:54 PM

sounds like a fukkin jet going through that tunnel!

YES!

**shaunovery** · 08-17-12, 06:06 PM

What happened in Nw qual

**Optional** · 08-17-12, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by MatI

btw guys, love this video. http://youtu.be/H4VPB7D54lk

Can't wait for the Jersey GP. I'm thinking of going...

Is the Jersey GP going through that tunnel?

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by shaunovery

What happened in Nw qual

tagliani 1st

villy 3rd

mcdowell 6th

**shaunovery** · 08-17-12, 06:11 PM

It's longer than the tunnel in Monaco

**shaunovery** · 08-17-12, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

tagliani 1st

villy 3rd

mcdowell 6th

Ty mike

**Optional** · 08-17-12, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by shaunovery

It's longer than the tunnel in Monaco

Miles longer. hair on arms stood on end for a bit. Just imagine it at race speed!

**MatI** · 08-17-12, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Is the Jersey GP going through that tunnel?

no, not going through the tunnel, that was just for promotion.

Track will be along the jersey foreshore next to the hudson

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**Vegas39** · 08-17-12, 06:27 PM

McDowell win in Montreal

**Vegas39** · 08-17-12, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by MatI

They both have 4 wheels! But similarity stops there.

But usually if you are solid in indycar, you can hussle a nascar around a road course no dramas.

Unless yor villenueve then mucho drama

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Unless yor villenueve then mucho drama

hopefully he keeps that to a minimum tomorrow

but im not convinced

**Vegas39** · 08-17-12, 06:56 PM

This my take and could be wrong. At road America he wrecks Danica at end and looked intentional. Watched her race enough in Indy car if she felt she was slighted at all she tried to pay driver back. Wouldn't shock me if she wrecks villenueve tomorrow

**Optional** · 08-17-12, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

This my take and could be wrong. At road America he wrecks Danica at end and looked intentional. Watched her race enough in Indy car if she felt she was slighted at all she tried to pay driver back. Wouldn't shock me if she wrecks villenueve tomorrow

Think Danica is too smart to bother when she can see a top 5 chance in her sights. Unless he is in front of her on the last lap

I think Ville shoudl be safe unless he starts demo derby racing and riles people again.

**MatI** · 08-17-12, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

This my take and could be wrong. At road America he wrecks Danica at end and looked intentional. Watched her race enough in Indy car if she felt she was slighted at all she tried to pay driver back. Wouldn't shock me if she wrecks villenueve tomorrow

No doubt Danica will try and wreck Ville.

But, and I hate to get into this all over again, it was not intentional. As much as the media tried to beat the situation up at the time you can clearly see that Ville was on the grass when he should have been breaking (after being pushed onto the grass). On his onboard you can even hear his rear tyres 'hopping' as he comes in the corner which means he was as hard on the breaks to avoid as he could possibly be.

The guy is a little bit crazy, but the criticism is unwarranted in this situation IMO.

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 07:17 PM

i have to say im glad i have him bet already

and i agree, very very doubtful she wrecks him, unless shes laps down or something crazy

its well worth the risk imo

**Vegas39** · 08-17-12, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by MatI

No doubt Danica will try and wreck Ville.

But, and I hate to get into this all over again, it was not intentional. As much as the media tried to beat the situation up at the time you can clearly see that Ville was on the grass when he should have been breaking (after being pushed onto the grass). On his onboard you can even hear his rear tyres 'hopping' as he comes in the corner which means he was as hard on the breaks to avoid as he could possibly be.

The guy is a little bit crazy, but the criticism is unwarranted in this situation IMO.

I worded it wrong I meant what she still perceives as intentional. I have no doubt she still blames him

**Vegas39** · 08-17-12, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

i have to say im glad i have him bet already

and i agree, very very doubtful she wrecks him, unless shes laps down or something crazy

its well worth the risk imo

I think she can contend she does well on road courses

**MatI** · 08-17-12, 07:25 PM

http://youtu.be/143l_xhO2LA

Check the video out at the 0.04 mark. You will see Ville has the left side of the car on the grass after being squeezed. You can also see the break markers on the right side and you do not want to be breaking any later than the 4 marker.

Also good slow-mo view of it at 0.40 and you can see how much of the car is on the grass as they should be breaking. Look at the car squirming side to side trying to slow down.

Just hard racing.

**5mike5** · 08-17-12, 07:25 PM

i dont think shes any real threat to win the race, but she can run up front sure

maybe a h2h oppurtunity?

**Vegas39** · 08-17-12, 07:26 PM

Mat I'm not disagreeing

**MatI** · 08-17-12, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

I worded it wrong I meant what she still perceives as intentional. I have no doubt she still blames him

Yeah agreed. I think she still feels aggrieved by what happened. He was her first chance for a really strong result in NASCAR and it was killed on the last lap...

**MatI** · 08-17-12, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Mat I'm not disagreeing

I'd already written that before i'd seen your 2nd response. I just posted that to illustrate clearer what I meant.

**Vegas39** · 08-17-12, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by MatI

Yeah agreed. I think she still feels aggrieved by what happened. He was her first chance for a really strong result in NASCAR and it was killed on the last lap...

Agrred and saw her do this in Indy car. She'd have a top 5 car and let her emotions get best of her. Hell maybe she is a Busch relative

**Vegas39** · 08-17-12, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by MatI

I'd already written that before i'd seen your 2nd response. I just posted that to illustrate clearer what I meant.

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