MICHIGAN--5mike5

[5mike5]

1.5u on Kurt @ +385 and .5u on Kliggerman at +1700 so far.

Had any further thoughts on Peters or Beucsher?

was hoping u had some advice on that....

just wondering if those 2 will get better later, but both over 8-1 right now....might stick to 2 i have and just wait and see how odds move after sessions

not sure what im doing, wish they posted H2Hs....no idea why greek/dimes have stopped it with trucks and nationwide early??

last 2 weeks no lines til after sessions

[Optional]

1.5u on Kurt @ +385 and .5u on Kliggerman at +1700 so far.

Had any further thoughts on Peters or Beucsher?

[5mike5]

optional, are u taking truck winners early or waiting?

[5mike5]

You two are just looking at the numbers form different angles. An average start of 10th since 09 doesn't sound like you need a great quali run, but saying 4 out of 6 have started top 10 does.

exactly my point

[Optional]

You two are just looking at the numbers form different angles. An average start of 10th since 09 doesn't sound like you need a great quali run, but saying 4 out of 6 have started top 10 does.

[5mike5]

[Trident]

17th isnt starting up front last 2 races and won

But the four previous winners did start inside of the top ten but that doesn't count I guess.

No matter what I say I am wrong and you are right even though history says otherwise.

[5mike5]

Staying on top of this thread this time Mike, losing out on all the cash!

GL swords

missed that u posted earlier buddy

NFL player props right around the corner

[5mike5]

i know who won, and when, and why... i do my homework or i wouldnt have results i do...17th isnt starting up front last 2 races and won

lots have been won from teens here and further back

thats not starting up front is all i said, u said its a "must" and its not( imo)

u felt the need to comment on my post and im just giving my side..

we just both look at it in different ways, not much else to say

[Trident]

I am not arguing with you I am stating a fact since the results speak for themselves, over half the winners at Michigan have come from the front two rows and two thirds of winners have come from the first ten starters.

Most times when they do come from far back it's because they gambled on fuel mileage like Martin did in 09 when he started 32nd which is the farthest back a winner has come from.

[5mike5]

all i said is its not a must...17th isnt starting "up front" to me

its not an argument...

i know u like to disagree with me, but its just a differnce of opinion

[Trident]

Double file restarts started with the August 09 race, the winners came from 1-7-8-10-17-17

Argue all you want but 4 of 6 started from the first five rows since they started double file restarts at Michigan.

[5mike5]

Yeah I saw. You did it right, but I was wrong about it showing up larger that way.

You must be snapping extra small screenshots. Not sure how with Windows Snipping Tool though.

yeah i dont know either, i just snip it around the odds and save it

if u think of anything let me know

[5mike5]

5 of last 8 have been won from 10 on back, and 7 of last 11....last 3 havent been won inside top 10 starting position either...including last 2 winners that started 17th

double file restarts have made a big differnce since 09...only 1 winner from the front row the last 12 races

qualifying not near as important since then, so old stats from top rows dont really mean anything in todays nascar

not even close to a "must"...but of course its better, but definatley not a must

[Trident]

especially since qualifying doesnt mean that much at MIS anyways

Starting up front is a must here, 66 of 86 races have been won from a top 10 starting position, 46 from the first two rows.

[Optional]

opti the reason that picture sats "attach" like that was becuase i was trying to figure out what u were telling me so i took the # out from between them

Yeah I saw. You did it right, but I was wrong about it showing up larger that way.

You must be snapping extra small screenshots. Not sure how with Windows Snipping Tool though.

[5mike5]

opti the reason that picture sats "attach" like that was becuase i was trying to figure out what u were telling me so i took the # out from between them

[5mike5]

Yeah. I try to go every year. My work usually gives out tickets as well.

maybe next time i go 1 of u bastards will meet up and hang out

i usually make a week trip out of it

[MeatWad]

The winners in Montreal since they began running there are: '07 Harvick, Fellows, Edwards, Said, and '11 Ambrose. Definitely a road course that strongly favors specialist. I would love to post another 4-0 in Nationwide h2h picks again this week.

[5mike5]

kennseth just been better at qualifying than smoke latley at MIS, but its always close, thats why i havent bet it single large yet

[Optional]

You guys talk a lot in a day and a half away!

Well Opti said Ambrose wins this week and gets in chase. Jump on Opti +8000

And no way I could not now eh!

better chance at bristol

srry opti, ambrose is fade material this week

Ha, where's your sense of adventure? Would make a great sporting story if he snuck in, and then did a Smoke and dominated! He has it in him to suddenly do that. ;-)

Plus, I've accidentally backed him for the Championship when trying to make race bets a couple of times.

JIMMY JOHNSON (+715)

MATT KENNSETH (+1050)

KYLE BUSCH (+825)

hopefully some get better raceday and ill bet them at better prices...really pleased with these early odds though, some of these will never be this high again

Got Kenseth +1000 and Kyle +700... thought I'd hold off on JJ

oh and here was 5D openers:

Looks like it is the way you save them Mike. thought that would help. :\

May throw some on McDowell in nationwide

Took him too at +1500. Good chance he will have the fastest car out there again. Think those are great odds for the RA winner/team combo!

Depending on the odds it would be really hard to go against these two in the truck race I think. I really like Kurt, being in the #18.

Like Kurt, brad can't seem to win in his own truck

Kilgerman might be in a better truck than both of them, and have something to prove.

took kennseth over smoke in qualifying (-115)

but just as 2nd of 3 slot parlay

no single bets on Qualifying so far

Is that liking Kenseth or fading Smoke?

[Vegas39]

Yeah. I try to go every year. My work usually gives out tickets as well.

Mine too and glad its back to a night race

[onlooker]

I'd go watch it if I was living around Vegas. Especially if it was free.....Trucks to me are more entertaining to watch than half of the Nationwide races.

Yeah. I try to go every year. My work usually gives out tickets as well.

[5mike5]

bristol truck race next wednesday night going to be great

[Reno Paul]

LVMS giving away Vegas Truck tickets on Facebook.

I'd go watch it if I was living around Vegas. Especially if it was free.....Trucks to me are more entertaining to watch than half of the Nationwide races.

[nic9212]

Cant Wait Mike

[Vegas39]

Yeah. They are usually given out in numerous places around the valley.

Many even if you test drive a car

[onlooker]

If like previous years Smiths stores will as well

Yeah. They are usually given out in numerous places around the valley.

[Vegas39]

LVMS giving away Vegas Truck tickets on Facebook.

If like previous years Smiths stores will as well

[onlooker]

LVMS giving away Vegas Truck tickets on Facebook.

[Vegas39]

Isn't Carl 1 for 1 though?

Was sarcasm looker

[5mike5]

yeah last week only race hes ran

[onlooker]

He has as many nationwide wins as Edwards this year

Isn't Carl 1 for 1 though?

[5mike5]

yeah but that was a daytona miracle

i mean like run up front at least to see if hes got the stuff or not

[Vegas39]

he is having a great truck season

think we will know more when he competes in nationwide more

He has as many nationwide wins as Edwards this year