MICHIGAN--5mike5

[5mike5]

im ready to get this racing weekend started!

cant wait for truck race in the morning, then right into montreal

[5mike5]

Just h2h for me

think thats it for me as well.....

plan on just having my 2 early bets to win the race, and hammer 1 H2H single play

unless odds are alot better but thats doubtful, even the books think this race is a toss-up!

[Vegas39]

Just h2h for me

[5mike5]

glad i got villy early, no way he gets anywhere close to +600 again, Mcdowell good early grab too

but doubt i bet any1 else to win the race unless 5D is alot better, ill just focus on H2Hs

[Vegas39]

Will take McDowell at + money if I can get it

[5mike5]

greek win odds:

[5mike5]

heres some greek matchups for Montreal:

[MatI]

I actually hope Jacques spares himself!

He needs a clean race before he starts getting labelled the new Robby Gordon.

[Vegas39]

Got a good chunk on McDowell so hope Jacques spares him

[MatI]

To be fair a lot in Indy series look slow vs Will Power but you are correct but she has run a lot and road course or plate tracks only shots at a win IMO

Yeah they are her best chances for a win at this stage. Villeneuve might do her a favour this time and take everyone else out.

[Vegas39]

I agree mike, she is not a proper threat for the race win but will still be racing up near the front.

She was always dead slow on Indycar road courses. Her strength in that series was the ovals.

To be fair a lot in Indy series look slow vs Will Power but you are correct but she has run a lot and road course or plate tracks only shots at a win IMO

[MatI]

We are on same page

[MatI]

I think she can contend she does well on road courses

i dont think shes any real threat to win the race, but she can run up front sure

maybe a h2h oppurtunity?

I agree mike, she is not a proper threat for the race win but will still be racing up near the front.

She was always dead slow on Indycar road courses. Her strength in that series was the ovals.

[Vegas39]

I'd already written that before i'd seen your 2nd response. I just posted that to illustrate clearer what I meant.

We are on same page

[Vegas39]

Yeah agreed. I think she still feels aggrieved by what happened. He was her first chance for a really strong result in NASCAR and it was killed on the last lap...

Agrred and saw her do this in Indy car. She'd have a top 5 car and let her emotions get best of her. Hell maybe she is a Busch relative

[MatI]

Mat I'm not disagreeing

I'd already written that before i'd seen your 2nd response. I just posted that to illustrate clearer what I meant.

[MatI]

I worded it wrong I meant what she still perceives as intentional. I have no doubt she still blames him

Yeah agreed. I think she still feels aggrieved by what happened. He was her first chance for a really strong result in NASCAR and it was killed on the last lap...

[Vegas39]

Mat I'm not disagreeing

[5mike5]

i dont think shes any real threat to win the race, but she can run up front sure

maybe a h2h oppurtunity?

[MatI]

http://youtu.be/143l_xhO2LA

Check the video out at the 0.04 mark. You will see Ville has the left side of the car on the grass after being squeezed. You can also see the break markers on the right side and you do not want to be breaking any later than the 4 marker.

Also good slow-mo view of it at 0.40 and you can see how much of the car is on the grass as they should be breaking. Look at the car squirming side to side trying to slow down.

Just hard racing.

[Vegas39]

i have to say im glad i have him bet already

and i agree, very very doubtful she wrecks him, unless shes laps down or something crazy

its well worth the risk imo

I think she can contend she does well on road courses

[Vegas39]

No doubt Danica will try and wreck Ville.

But, and I hate to get into this all over again, it was not intentional. As much as the media tried to beat the situation up at the time you can clearly see that Ville was on the grass when he should have been breaking (after being pushed onto the grass). On his onboard you can even hear his rear tyres 'hopping' as he comes in the corner which means he was as hard on the breaks to avoid as he could possibly be.

The guy is a little bit crazy, but the criticism is unwarranted in this situation IMO.

I worded it wrong I meant what she still perceives as intentional. I have no doubt she still blames him

[5mike5]

i have to say im glad i have him bet already

and i agree, very very doubtful she wrecks him, unless shes laps down or something crazy

its well worth the risk imo

[MatI]

This my take and could be wrong. At road America he wrecks Danica at end and looked intentional. Watched her race enough in Indy car if she felt she was slighted at all she tried to pay driver back. Wouldn't shock me if she wrecks villenueve tomorrow

No doubt Danica will try and wreck Ville.

But, and I hate to get into this all over again, it was not intentional. As much as the media tried to beat the situation up at the time you can clearly see that Ville was on the grass when he should have been breaking (after being pushed onto the grass). On his onboard you can even hear his rear tyres 'hopping' as he comes in the corner which means he was as hard on the breaks to avoid as he could possibly be.

The guy is a little bit crazy, but the criticism is unwarranted in this situation IMO.

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This my take and could be wrong. At road America he wrecks Danica at end and looked intentional. Watched her race enough in Indy car if she felt she was slighted at all she tried to pay driver back. Wouldn't shock me if she wrecks villenueve tomorrow

Think Danica is too smart to bother when she can see a top 5 chance in her sights. Unless he is in front of her on the last lap

I think Ville shoudl be safe unless he starts demo derby racing and riles people again.

[Vegas39]

This my take and could be wrong. At road America he wrecks Danica at end and looked intentional. Watched her race enough in Indy car if she felt she was slighted at all she tried to pay driver back. Wouldn't shock me if she wrecks villenueve tomorrow

[5mike5]

Unless yor villenueve then mucho drama

hopefully he keeps that to a minimum tomorrow

but im not convinced

[Vegas39]

They both have 4 wheels! But similarity stops there.

But usually if you are solid in indycar, you can hussle a nascar around a road course no dramas.

Unless yor villenueve then mucho drama

[Vegas39]

McDowell win in Montreal

[MatI]

Is the Jersey GP going through that tunnel?

no, not going through the tunnel, that was just for promotion.

Track will be along the jersey foreshore next to the hudson

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5451/njf1.jpg

[Optional]

It's longer than the tunnel in Monaco

Miles longer. hair on arms stood on end for a bit. Just imagine it at race speed!

[shaunovery]

tagliani 1st

villy 3rd

mcdowell 6th

Ty mike

[shaunovery]

It's longer than the tunnel in Monaco

[5mike5]

What happened in Nw qual

tagliani 1st

villy 3rd

mcdowell 6th

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btw guys, love this video. http://youtu.be/H4VPB7D54lk

Can't wait for the Jersey GP. I'm thinking of going...

Is the Jersey GP going through that tunnel?