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  • avssakic
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-07
    • 1795

    #281
    nice job there opti
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    • CarolinaDaze
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-07-09
      • 6845

      #282
      Congrats Opti, group bet was the way to go. GL with THE LADY IN BLACK next week. She can be quite wicked.
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      • soxwin1917
        SBR MVP
        • 09-09-08
        • 1188

        #283
        Great job Opti.
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 61527

          #284
          Thanks guys.

          I feel good we can keep it rolling Sox!
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 61527

            #285
            Looking for some advice.

            I am tempted to take these early odds on Hamlin and Gordon, for the $51 payout I need to punt again.

            • Sprint Cup Motor Racing Showtime Southern 500 : Denny Hamlin +600
              Risking $7.45 To Win $44.70
            • Sprint Cup Motor Racing Showtime Southern 500 : Jeff Gordon +775
              Risking $5.85 To Win $45.34


            I don't expect either price to get much better, and both to probably come in if they qualify ok. And with the same day practice and quali system for these Saturday night races, I don't find I make a lot of good decisions based on practice times to make a better choice later anyway. Johnson is about the only other one I might be swayed to take in preference to either of these 2 based on quali performance, and he usually aint a great qualifier here.

            I'd then probably look for a parlay paying about 13/1 close to race time for the remaining $3.70. (also looking for a $51 payout)

            Alternatively, I could use the same strategy as last week. Look for a Group matchup bet I like and put 13 odd bucks on that to win the 51... and use the remaining few dollars for a few hopeful parlays.

            I also don't mind Kahne and McMurray as smokeys at +3300 at this stage.

            Any constructive thoughts appreciated.
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            • CarolinaDaze
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-07-09
              • 6845

              #286
              Not sure Opti, but let me say this as a S.C. native, i love this race. And always the 1st driver who comes to mind there is Gordon. Always qualifies great there, and has won quite a few races there. I know he's not what he once was, but if i had to pick 1 track for him to win on this year it would be Darlington. As always i respect our group, and the picks we all make. Best of luck this week Opti/SoxWins.
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61527

                #287
                Thanks CD.

                I went for it. Leaves me $4.50 to play with.

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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 61527

                  #288
                  5 Leg Parlay
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7302 K.Harvick fin.position under 10½* -130 vs K.Harvick fin.position over 10½
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7303 T.Stewart fin.position over 10½* -115 vs T.Stewart fin.position under 10½
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7305 C.Bowyer fin.position over 10½* -105 vs C.Bowyer fin.position under 10½
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7308 J.Johnson fin.position under 10½* -145 vs J.Johnson fin.position over 10½
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7314 J.Burton fin.position under 15½* -150 vs J.Burton fin.position over 15½

                  Risking $1.00 To Win $17.19

                  5 Leg Parlay
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7501 Denny Hamlin #11* -125 vs Kyle Busch #18
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7506 Jeff Gordon #24* -135 vs Jimmie Johnson #48
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7514 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88* +110 vs Tony Stewart #14
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7525 Jeff Burton #31* -130 vs Mark Martin #5
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7538 Martin Truex Jr #56* +125 vs Jamie McMurray #1

                  Risking $1.00 To Win $25.19

                  6 Leg Parlay
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7305 C.Bowyer fin.position over 10½* -105 vs C.Bowyer fin.position under 10½
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7308 J.Johnson fin.position under 10½* -145 vs J.Johnson fin.position over 10½
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7501 Denny Hamlin #11* -125 vs Kyle Busch #18
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7509 Carl Edwards #99* -160 vs Kevin Harvick #29
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7514 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88* +110 vs Tony Stewart #14
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7525 Jeff Burton #31* -130 vs Mark Martin #5

                  Risking $1.00 To Win $34.85

                  5 Leg Parlay
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7009 D.Hamlin / Kyle Busch wins Southern 500* +300 vs Field wins Southern 500
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7305 C.Bowyer fin.position over 10½* -105 vs C.Bowyer fin.position under 10½
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7308 J.Johnson fin.position under 10½* -145 vs J.Johnson fin.position over 10½
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7521 Greg Biffle #16* -165 vs Kurt Busch #22
                  • 5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7525 Jeff Burton #31* -130 vs Mark Martin #5

                  Risking $1.50 To Win $54.74


                  Up to you now Sox
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                  • soxwin1917
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-09-08
                    • 1188

                    #289
                    I hesitate to do this because I like to take a couple different bets incase I'm misreading the race but I like this one too much to pass it up. I'd like my whole steak on 7023 D.Hamlin / Ky.Busch / C.Edwards wins
                    +186
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                    • soxwin1917
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-09-08
                      • 1188

                      #290
                      Thanks as always Opti, and the rest of the gang. I really hope I can add to Opti's winnings for the race tonight.
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61527

                        #291
                        Good luck Sox!

                        5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7023 D.Hamlin / Ky.Busch / C.Edwards wins* +186 vs Field wins Southern 500
                        Risking $17.00 To Win $31.62

                        (on laptop so screenshot is a pain)
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61527

                          #292
                          Total Washout...

                          Straight bets all lost and parlays didn't even come close.


                          Originally posted by Optional
                          5 Leg Parlay

                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7302 K.Harvick fin.position under 10½* -130 vs K.Harvick fin.position over 10½
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7303 T.Stewart fin.position over 10½* -115 vs T.Stewart fin.position under 10½

                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7305 C.Bowyer fin.position over 10½* -105 vs C.Bowyer fin.position under 10½
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7308 J.Johnson fin.position under 10½* -145 vs J.Johnson fin.position over 10½
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7314 J.Burton fin.position under 15½* -150 vs J.Burton fin.position over 15½


                          Risking $1.00 To Win $17.19

                          5 Leg Parlay

                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7501 Denny Hamlin #11* -125 vs Kyle Busch #18
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7506 Jeff Gordon #24* -135 vs Jimmie Johnson #48

                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7514 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88* +110 vs Tony Stewart #14
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7525 Jeff Burton #31* -130 vs Mark Martin #5
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7538 Martin Truex Jr #56* +125 vs Jamie McMurray #1


                          Risking $1.00 To Win $25.19

                          6 Leg Parlay

                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7305 C.Bowyer fin.position over 10½* -105 vs C.Bowyer fin.position under 10½
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7308 J.Johnson fin.position under 10½* -145 vs J.Johnson fin.position over 10½
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7501 Denny Hamlin #11* -125 vs Kyle Busch #18
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7509 Carl Edwards #99* -160 vs Kevin Harvick #29

                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7514 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88* +110 vs Tony Stewart #14
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7525 Jeff Burton #31* -130 vs Mark Martin #5


                          Risking $1.00 To Win $34.85

                          5 Leg Parlay

                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7009 D.Hamlin / Kyle Busch wins Southern 500* +300 vs Field wins Southern 500
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7305 C.Bowyer fin.position over 10½* -105 vs C.Bowyer fin.position under 10½
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7308 J.Johnson fin.position under 10½* -145 vs J.Johnson fin.position over 10½
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7521 Greg Biffle #16* -165 vs Kurt Busch #22
                          5/7/2011 7:30 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7525 Jeff Burton #31* -130 vs Mark Martin #5

                          Risking $1.50 To Win $54.74

                          Bankroll decreases by $34.00 to $127.81


                          Dover Punters

                          Avssakic and Rickie with a stake of $13 each

                          Target to punt again is $26 profit.


                          Avs Rickie
                          Hawk CD
                          Opti Dew
                          Rickie Sox
                          CD Avs
                          Dew Hawk
                          Sox Opti
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 61527

                            #293
                            How is everyone feeling about this so far?

                            If it's just bumming people out that we are losing, and the stakes are getting so low, we could change it up with a rule change.

                            We are down to half our starting bankroll. $18.25 each if divided by the 7 of us. We could continue from now with each player having an $18.25 stake to use any time over the next 3 races as they choose. Then see what our balance is then, and hopefully switch back to the current system if we are back up near the original $250.

                            I'm actually happy to continue as we are, even though we might end up with pretty small stakes if the slide continues. So am just throwing the idea out there for discussion... as the main thing is for this to be fun in my mind.
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                            • avssakic
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-12-07
                              • 1795

                              #294
                              doesnt matter to me. i think the slide will end soon, hopefully
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                              • rickie65
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-27-07
                                • 2895

                                #295
                                I agree the slide will end soon, I think we all know Nascar and have made some strong bets and just haven't had the luck with us yet. Being own to $13 isn't much to work with though. What about a minimum of $15 or $20 per punter instead of per person to use whenever. If we try to all use the $18.75 you mentioned over the 3 weeks I think we'll have too many bets against ourselves and be sure to lose.
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                                • hawk 5
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-12-06
                                  • 3982

                                  #296
                                  I'm fine on whatever y'all decide.
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                                  • onlooker
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 36572

                                    #297
                                    I don't know why this year has been such a struggle for us. I'm not in this, but I am struggling on my own.

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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 61527

                                      #298
                                      I think the change to the qualifying rules, new tires and several races with 1 day practice/quali messing with our capping has been the main problem. 2 surprise winners out of 10 races hasn't helped either.
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                                      • CarolinaDaze
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-07-09
                                        • 6845

                                        #299
                                        If we try to all use the $18.75 you mentioned over the 3 weeks I think we'll have too many bets against ourselves and be sure to lose.

                                        Thats a good point. I'm not sure of the best way to right the ship. Ya'll keep giving Opti ideas, and i support the final decision.
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 61527

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by rickie65
                                          What about a minimum of $15 or $20 per punter
                                          I'm thinking that might be an ok idea.

                                          Although after a couple of days to let the sting of defeat reduce a little, and apparently no one else getting too bummed out yet, maybe just continuing on as we are is best for now.

                                          We are only $122.19 down... just a couple of decent races and we could have that back I guess.
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                                          • hawk 5
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-12-06
                                            • 3982

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by onlooker
                                            I don't know why this year has been such a struggle for us. I'm not in this, but I am struggling on my own.

                                            It started with the double file restarts and with the qualifying rules it makes it much harder. On most tracks I could eliminate all drivers who qualified outside of the top 10. Can't do that anymore. With all the drivers working one whole session trying to get top speed to get a better draw, you can't rely on practice speeds anymore. With the cars being so identical it puts a lot more drivers into the mix that can win and throws history out the door.
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                                            • rickie65
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-27-07
                                              • 2895

                                              #302
                                              definitely been a bad handicapping year so far for a few reasons, but as the bad gambler I like to be I expect it to turn around and I'd even be willing to re-up some points and give us more play $$.....although I could trade in for a pizza instead As long as I think of it as free points and not real cash it's no big deal really.
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                                              • CarolinaDaze
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-07-09
                                                • 6845

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by rickie65
                                                definitely been a bad handicapping year so far for a few reasons, but as the bad gambler I like to be I expect it to turn around and I'd even be willing to re-up some points and give us more play $$.....although I could trade in for a pizza instead As long as I think of it as free points and not real cash it's no big deal really.
                                                My man Rickie i feel the same, thru 10 races we lost $125. If we could get 10 more races with our $125 left, shit i think we nail it, get to even at 15, & Have that last 18 races to hit them 4 real.
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                                                • CarolinaDaze
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-07-09
                                                  • 6845

                                                  #304
                                                  Also i would be willing to re-up some more points, i know everyone can't but what could we do?
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 61527

                                                    #305
                                                    Yeah, I think one problem with that is that Avssakic can't. And I don't think it would be fair to leave him with a smaller share of the final booty when we still have half our bankroll left.

                                                    But worst case scenario, the stakes after this race will go; $11, $8, $7, $6, $6, $5, $4, $4, $3....

                                                    So if we don't win this week or next week, we will have to do something I think.


                                                    Anyway, for now, lets just try and stay positive that Avs and Rickie will do well.
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                                                    • rickie65
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-27-07
                                                      • 2895

                                                      #306
                                                      opti -- give me $2.50 on Kenseth for the win please....@ +2000 at the moment
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 61527

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by rickie65
                                                        opti -- give me $2.50 on Kenseth for the win please....@ +2000 at the moment
                                                        You're on Rickie!







                                                        Also, a couple of people have said they would like to add to the pool, and one agrees we need to make provision for everyone to have an equal share if they can't pay now.

                                                        7 ways, it is 213 points each for an extra $100, or 483 each for an extra $250.

                                                        Just as fodder for discussion if others feels the same. I'm happy with the majority opinion on this. So basically if 2 more of you want to bump up the bankroll now, and no one is dead against it.... we can.
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                                                        • shaunovery
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-15-07
                                                          • 18143

                                                          #308
                                                          Hi I've got 200 available if it's not too late to join
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                                                          • avssakic
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-12-07
                                                            • 1795

                                                            #309
                                                            I was confused on the pro thing. Thought I could just use current book for it but I guess it has to be a new one. So it's gonna be a little while until I can find one that will accept my method of payment. Pain in the ass for American players
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 61527

                                                              #310
                                                              They must have changed the rules. I used my existing 5D account.


                                                              Originally posted by shaunovery
                                                              Hi I've got 200 available if it's not too late to join
                                                              Will let you know if the opportunity arises Shaun.
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                                                              • shaunovery
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-15-07
                                                                • 18143

                                                                #311
                                                                That's opt
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                                                                • rickie65
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-27-07
                                                                  • 2895

                                                                  #312
                                                                  I used my existing DSI account to go pro, didn't need a new one.

                                                                  So Opti and Punters club.....are we using the $13 from the original plan or the $18.25 per punter that we have left? I prefer the $18.25 and if we are dead at $0 after 7 more picks than so be it, we re-bankroll and start over.
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                                                                  • rickie65
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-27-07
                                                                    • 2895

                                                                    #313
                                                                    next bets, all to win!

                                                                    Logano $2
                                                                    AJ -$1
                                                                    Biffle - $3
                                                                    Harvick $3

                                                                    leaves me with $1.50 or $6.75 left depending on what we do from above post....
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                                                                    • Optional
                                                                      Administrator
                                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                                      • 61527

                                                                      #314
                                                                      $13 this week Rickie.



                                                                      $1.50 to go.
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                                                                      • rickie65
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-27-07
                                                                        • 2895

                                                                        #315
                                                                        for my last $1.50.....
                                                                        Group A - Newman +300
                                                                        matchup - Newman over Montoya - 135
                                                                        matchup - Edwards over Hamlin -130

                                                                        Top 10 finish - Newman
                                                                        Top 10 finish - Edwards

                                                                        top 10 lines not up yet.... need to go take care of some business can't wait for lines to update. if you have to place without the to 10's no big deal.
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