Horse Racing questions and answers

[JBEX]

I have heard about this since they split entries. Much of the talk is people thinking the trainer might have held back the favorite to cash a ticket and while that is absurd, I totally get the mindset. I mean, who betting at the track wouldn't think they died and went to heaven if they could do that. So I do understand their mindset. But from a pure angle, I would never recommend that.

That said, often times, the horse the regular rider chooses gets overbet and the other half gets underbet. That creates value and from THAT perspective, absolutely. So it's all how you want to look at it. And any serious player should look at it this way.

What I would say is: Always look for the value. A player will stay in the game a long time doing that. Do NOT focus on the trainer betting angle ( not saying you do at all, but enough do that I try and discourage that mainly because the percentage of that happening is miniscule, and at Saratoga, non existent. ).

Good question JBEX.

Thanks.

yeah I never thought of it from a foul play perspective but sure some who lost on the other one probably cried out fix lol.. i picked the other and had considered the winner.. I think I would take away from this situation don't auto dismiss the other if it has merit and probably an edge situation long haul... besides dylan davis to me has really established himself as a solid middle of the colony jock in NY.. I remember his dad robbie whom I'm sure you remember was a similar level jock here for a long time.. actually I think dad was more middle/high level.. liked him back in the day.. have to look up his career stats now that I started with this lol.. thanks str

[JBEX]

robbie a hall of famer.. 3382 wins.. well over 30 major stakes wins.. his career kind of paralleled time wise richard migliore's.. in no way just an average jockey especially factoring in he did it on the big stage

[JBEX]

hey str

chad just won with a horse who was making his 3rd career start..his 2nd career start was his impressive maiden breaker vs specials at the spa last year and today was an allowance race..believe also that while it's not his man client it's an outfit that's been around a while..you think it's possible that some of these connections really want to have the allowance win up there and will wait till the next meet especially if the horse is currently a 4yo or older..I've definitely seen this happen before..figure well heeled owners who the up keep of the horse is peanuts for ..the prestige of having the allowance win up there mean's a lot to them

[str]

hey str

chad just won with a horse who was making his 3rd career start..his 2nd career start was his impressive maiden breaker vs specials at the spa last year and today was an allowance race..believe also that while it's not his man client it's an outfit that's been around a while..you think it's possible that some of these connections really want to have the allowance win up there and will wait till the next meet especially if the horse is currently a 4yo or older..I've definitely seen this happen before..figure well heeled owners who the up keep of the horse is peanuts for ..the prestige of having the allowance win up there mean's a lot to them

Absolutely JBEX.

And it certainly is not all the owners, or even a majority of the owners that just HAVE to win up there. I mean, everybody hopes to and wants to but some owners just gotta get that look at me rush at the premier meet of the year.


That stuff is why it is so refreshing when you meet and are around people that could buy and sell the types you and I are talking about and they are humble, kind, and unassuming.

Don't know for sure if this fits that exact owner or not but rest assured there are more than a couple up there. Heck, to a lesser extent there are more than a couple right here. Lol.

[JBEX]

Absolutely JBEX.

And it certainly is not all the owners, or even a majority of the owners that just HAVE to win up there. I mean, everybody hopes to and wants to but some owners just gotta get that look at me rush at the premier meet of the year.


That stuff is why it is so refreshing when you meet and are around people that could buy and sell the types you and I are talking about and they are humble, kind, and unassuming.

Don't know for sure if this fits that exact owner or not but rest assured there are more than a couple up there. Heck, to a lesser extent there are more than a couple right here. Lol.

yeah I thought so.. when you think about it if you can't get a 2nd start at saratoga at the right level or timing is not right you'd have to wait till belmont.. nothing wrong with winning there but just not the same.. and have to think lots of these types certainly don't want it to happen at aqueduct.. probably next most appealing keeneland or gulfstream winter meet but shipping might not be in the plans for some of them.. by that time though why not wait a few more months to go up north..could also be a horse who got through n1x there and wants to try a next level allowance or one of the minor stakes offered.. chad is probably one of the main guys you'll see doing this.. thanks str

[JBEX]

hey str

like your thoughts on the 2-5 favorite in R2 at saratoga.. interesting career to say the least.. expensive yearling purchase who breaks his maiden first out as a 2yo.. don't see him again till 2 years later and he gets through next level alw race at saratoga .. then 2 second place finishes, one at kee and then a big figure near miss at a mile at aqueduct..in the latter he broke from the rail and probably pressured from the outside most of the way.. although by comment looks like he might have moved to the outside approaching the stretch. back to his favorite venue but you can have him for $25k and he's a first time gelding.. seems like one there might be a shake (that what it's called for multiple claims?) for at the claim box

[JBEX]

hey str

like your thoughts on the 2-5 favorite in R2 at saratoga.. interesting career to say the least.. expensive yearling purchase who breaks his maiden first out as a 2yo.. don't see him again till 2 years later and he gets through next level alw race at saratoga .. then 2 second place finishes, one at kee and then a big figure near miss at a mile at aqueduct..in the latter he broke from the rail and probably pressured from the outside most of the way.. although by comment looks like he might have moved to the outside approaching the stretch. back to his favorite venue but you can have him for $25k and he's a first time gelding.. seems like one there might be a shake (that what it's called for multiple claims?) for at the claim box

just saw thebigfundamental goes in R4 making his 2nd start of the meet.. thought it was interesting they sprinted him off the long layoff considering he was a strict router.. now they stretch and drop him (think that's two levels or possibly 3).. have to think this might have been the plan with him.. get a sprint in him for fitness off the layoff and then stretch and drop.. obviously not the same horse of the past few years up for sale for $20k

[str]

hey str

like your thoughts on the 2-5 favorite in R2 at saratoga.. interesting career to say the least.. expensive yearling purchase who breaks his maiden first out as a 2yo.. don't see him again till 2 years later and he gets through next level alw race at saratoga .. then 2 second place finishes, one at kee and then a big figure near miss at a mile at aqueduct..in the latter he broke from the rail and probably pressured from the outside most of the way.. although by comment looks like he might have moved to the outside approaching the stretch. back to his favorite venue but you can have him for $25k and he's a first time gelding.. seems like one there might be a shake (that what it's called for multiple claims?) for at the claim box

Yes. It is called a shake. Probably very obvious what the problem has been. That should allow people to see the horse and determine the risk factor. Always a gamble but short of not being able to get him back again, he should have nw/3 for the same thing which should carry a purse that damn near pays for the claim. Have to think they are shaking for this horse no matter the problem.
Should win pulling up on paper.

[str]

just saw thebigfundamental goes in R4 making his 2nd start of the meet.. thought it was interesting they sprinted him off the long layoff considering he was a strict router.. now they stretch and drop him (think that's two levels or possibly 3).. have to think this might have been the plan with him.. get a sprint in him for fitness off the layoff and then stretch and drop.. obviously not the same horse of the past few years up for sale for $20k

No surprise. We talked about running him for a quarter last race. 20k makes it even better. Gotta think the same people that go for the horse in the 2nd go for this one as well. Especially with purses as high as they are today. One win and you are darn near out. And if they come back sore, you void the claim. Wow. It's a long way from how it was back in the day.

[JBEX]

yeah with air touch even if he wins, as you said, he's still got the nw 3 available to him and with purses the way they are makes him an attractive claim.. I just have a feeling with tbf something might be amiss although the way I look at it the type of race he ran very useful for today.. I went another direction and will definitely feel bad if he wins.. been with him from the start but it's a business after all lol


guess what they both have in common is todd doesn't want claimers taking up space in his stable



thanks str

[str]

yeah with air touch even if he wins, as you said, he's still got the nw 3 available to him and with purses the way they are makes him an attractive claim.. I just have a feeling with tbf something might be amiss although the way I look at it the type of race he ran very useful for today.. I went another direction and will definitely feel bad if he wins.. been with him from the start but it's a business after all lol


guess what they both have in common is todd doesn't want claimers taking up space in his stable



thanks str

I forgot to mention that running in that sprint does save wear and tear on a horse trying to come back off time and go long. While it is typically easier physically to get a horse fit to go long than it is a sprint, if you are concerned about putting the kind of daily pressure needed on a horses wheels to get them ready first out, sprinting once as he did actually saves pressure on the weak link in the leg area.

A race is worth several works and can put speed in a horse that you just can't do in the morning. If he wins today, and he should as long as he holds together, it is a nice plan to get the horse fit and winning with minimal strain. If he wins today and comes back fine, training up to the next race and subsequent races will be a lot easier on the horse. A LOT easier.

[JBEX]

well after all that track's muddy and he's scratched..sure we'll see him next month or so and i'll keep an eye out

[str]

well after all that track's muddy and he's scratched..sure we'll see him next month or so and i'll keep an eye out

Too bad.

Just watched Airtouch run in the 2nd. Todd was not stealing there. Missed them warming up. Wanted to see that . But saw the race. Airtouch was never in that race from 2 jumps out of the gate. Not in the bit, unresponsive, stayed on the left lead, never thought about switching leads. Lugging in. Airtouch looked uncomfortable throughout. He was claimed. Don't know who took him.

[JBEX]

Too bad.

Just watched Airtouch run in the 2nd. Todd was not stealing there. Missed them warming up. Wanted to see that . But saw the race. Airtouch was never in that race from 2 jumps out of the gate. Not in the bit, unresponsive, stayed on the left lead, never thought about switching leads. Lugging in. Airtouch looked uncomfortable throughout. He was claimed. Don't know who took him.

yeah I thought he looked like a loser not too far into the race but that's not my area of expertise...robertino diodoro took him and he runs at a lot of the smaller tracks...probably get some of it back from him at lower levels..sure he was hoping he was getting something better though..tony dutrow claimed the winner..unfortunately there goes a condition

[JBEX]

guess it's also possible as you said before that the claim may be void if the horse is not sound (air touch)

[JBEX]

guess it's also possible as you said before that the claim may be void if the horse is not sound (air touch)

probably not he did finish 3rd

[str]

probably not he did finish 3rd

That would not matter. He needs to cool out and not be off. If he is, they can void it. If not, he's probably looking at 30 days until he is out of jail and run back for less. I mean the way he ran, why not?

[JBEX]

That would not matter. He needs to cool out and not be off. If he is, they can void it. If not, he's probably looking at 30 days until he is out of jail and run back for less. I mean the way he ran, why not?

absolutely.. think there's at least 2, or possibly 3, clm n2l levels below this. sure he'll make out OK with him as long as he's in good shape

[JBEX]

hey str

if you can look at laurel R6.. #2 wins and pays $61.. kind of generous don't you think?.. I mean I know colonial is a lower level track (at least I consider it to be) but her last 2 were pretty nice races and the last was very similar to today's race condition (except no 3yo exception there). very game all the way around in those two races.. can't see her first 3 races but ironically her last time around two turns was her bottom line at charlestown @ 6.5f which she won by a neck lol.. have to guess the money is significantly better at laurel vs colonial

[str]

hey str

if you can look at laurel R6.. #2 wins and pays $61.. kind of generous don't you think?.. I mean I know colonial is a lower level track (at least I consider it to be) but her last 2 were pretty nice races and the last was very similar to today's race condition (except no 3yo exception there). very game all the way around in those two races.. can't see her first 3 races but ironically her last time around two turns was her bottom line at charlestown @ 6.5f which she won by a neck lol.. have to guess the money is significantly better at laurel vs colonial

When I raced at Colonial, it was mostly Maryland horses running and some Charlestown, Penn., with a little " other" tracks. So it was lesser than Md. usually. Heavy pressure from management to run there made it that way. I do not know about now but people will come from all over the place to run on turf.

The recent trainer change was back to the trainer that won previously with her.

All in all, yes, an overlay for sure. It was a competitive race on paper but she probably should have paid in the teens or maybe 10-1 tops. She was in good form off her last two races.

I don't know about the pools either anymore. Maybe there was a late dump bet that skewed the odds somewhat. Just a guess.

So I think the rule of thumb on Colonial on the grass is that is probably a little lesser a product than Maryland. Really depends on the exact race though as sometimes a turf race can attract 2 or 3 solid horses. Probably a great place to monitor that but with Saratoga running, I couldn't blame anyone to not want to put the time in at Colonial.

On a side note, I hated going there. What a pain in the ass it was. Had to van around the D.C. beltway in the heat back and forth and that thing can crawl for no reason . Really sucked for the grooms and horses . Very long days for sure.
What a dumb place to put a track IMO.
One hundred and fifteen miles from Laurel. Literally in the middle of nowhere.

[JBEX]

yeah I figured it was lower and didn't notice he had the horse back at charlestown.. guess he must know the ins and outs with her as she sure runs big for him.. on the pace battling or coming from way out of it like yesterday and the race at charlestown.. nice to have a horse like that but sure next level might be a tough spot now that she's through n3l.. noticed he owns the horse also



115k wps so not a bad pool


yeah that trip from laurel sounds like a pain


thanks str

[JBEX]

hey str

was wondering if you could take a look at saratoga R5 #2 jane grey (10-1)..mott first time starter.. love the work pattern.. to me steady, gradually up in distance.. asked him more early on at 3f.. 4f works modest, slow 5f and then drilled a bullet of 40 @ 4f six days ago.. like him on pedigree as into mischief one of the best sires there is and of the real elite ones he is the most sprint oriented influence.. you'd want stoutness on the bottom to go long.. other expensive ones are route influences

[str]

hey str

was wondering if you could take a look at saratoga R5 #2 jane grey (10-1)..mott first time starter.. love the work pattern.. to me steady, gradually up in distance.. asked him more early on at 3f.. 4f works modest, slow 5f and then drilled a bullet of 40 @ 4f six days ago.. like him on pedigree as into mischief one of the best sires there is and of the real elite ones he is the most sprint oriented influence.. you'd want stoutness on the bottom to go long.. other expensive ones are route influences

I saw the pattern and it all makes sense except for the 2 week break late July. But, trainers always worry, even retired ones Lol .

The last work was excellent. We all know that Mott doesn't lay it all out there first out, but... I have to think that when you have a sire that has solid firster numbers, you would respect that a bit and maybe go that extra step to give the horse a chance for that stat to show up.

Plus, it is now Sept. and babies are quickly not treated as fragile as they might be in June. Doesn't seem like much difference but it really is to both the horses body and the trainers mindset.

Mott has had a tough meet with 9 wins and 22 seconds. That has to be frustrating for him. All in all, you probably get 8-1 or thereabouts .
I did not look real close at the rest of the field but those odds in the long run on this type aren't bad as you know.
Good luck JBEX.

[JBEX]

I saw the pattern and it all makes sense except for the 2 week break late July. But, trainers always worry, even retired ones Lol .

The last work was excellent. We all know that Mott doesn't lay it all out there first out, but... I have to think that when you have a sire that has solid firster numbers, you would respect that a bit and maybe go that extra step to give the horse a chance for that stat to show up.

Plus, it is now Sept. and babies are quickly not treated as fragile as they might be in June. Doesn't seem like much difference but it really is to both the horses body and the trainers mindset.

Mott has had a tough meet with 9 wins and 22 seconds. That has to be frustrating for him. All in all, you probably get 8-1 or thereabouts .
I did not look real close at the rest of the field but those odds in the long run on this type aren't bad as you know.
Good luck JBEX.

I feel the same way..you've got an into mischief so why not crank it up a bit..plus it's saratoga and win up here always more special..the fact that it's not his thing winning first out gets you some value..mott probably gets a lot more horses with stout bloodlines overall..the part about a few months can make a difference in how hard a trainer goes working them when they're 2yo is very interesting and great information..thanks str

[JBEX]

also worth mentioning the derby winner is by into mischief out of a mr greeley mare (not really a stout influence on the bottom).. I think this sire's going to be the most expensive stallion in the country within a couple of years ($175k now).. a phenomenal producer

[JBEX]

hey str


lacey has one in R7 at laurel.. 2nd off the layoff, cutback a furlong, exits a real fast race and big jockey upgrade.. ran a big race 6 back off similar circumstances (except 2 furlong cutback, turf to dirt) and finished 4th by < a length.. another half furlong in that one (like today) probably home easy.. won't be a value here but enough interesting circumstances figured I'd give it a mention.. #4 john jones (3-1)

[str]

hey str


lacey has one in R7 at laurel.. 2nd off the layoff, cutback a furlong, exits a real fast race and big jockey upgrade.. ran a big race 6 back off similar circumstances (except 2 furlong cutback, turf to dirt) and finished 4th by < a length.. another half furlong in that one (like today) probably home easy.. won't be a value here but enough interesting circumstances figured I'd give it a mention.. #4 john jones (3-1)

If you look John Jones up in equibase I won a couple times with him in April and May of 1994. He's gotta be gettin up there in years. Lol.

But seriously, you know how we love those cut backs like that. Eddie did as well so Lacey will also.

Hope it likes the slop, it's coming down in buckets as we speak.

Watch the rail there. This was forecasted and you know about Laurel off dark days with rain forecast.

GL JBEX.

[JBEX]

If you look John Jones up in equibase I won a couple times with him in April and May of 1994. He's gotta be gettin up there in years. Lol.









But seriously, you know how we love those cut backs like that. Eddie did as well so Lacey will also.

Hope it likes the slop, it's coming down in buckets as we speak.

Watch the rail there. This was forecasted and you know about Laurel off dark days with rain forecast.

GL JBEX.

did look it up... saw he lost as a favorite on 4/12 then won by about a combined 20 lengths in his next 2 starts and you lost him in the 2nd of those wins.. really an amazing coincidence.. remember seeing the name of that jockey Klinger.. see what you've said about purses in the past.. even factoring in 26 years, $5200 total purse not a lot of money


I really thought he'd be lower than 2-1 capping for a fast track and he loves the slop so that's no excuse.. 4-1 cold on the board and he ran like it


thanks str

[str]

did look it up... saw he lost as a favorite on 4/12 then won by about a combined 20 lengths in his next 2 starts and you lost him in the 2nd of those wins.. really an amazing coincidence.. remember seeing the name of that jockey Klinger.. see what you've said about purses in the past.. even factoring in 26 years, $5200 total purse not a lot of money


I really thought he'd be lower than 2-1 capping for a fast track and he loves the slop so that's no excuse.. 4-1 cold on the board and he ran like it


thanks str

Omar Klinger was a really solid speed rider on dirt and any style rider on turf. He was a bit under the radar IMO but I loved him riding my speed horses. A classy guy for sure.

[JBEX]

hey str

picked a horse last night at mountaineer (R3) who finished 3rd @ 28-1 and was 1.5 lengths from the winner..it was a 4k open claimer at 1 mile 70 yards on a yielding turf

fractions

21.70/44.89/1:10.04/1:36.60/1:40.79


my horse

5-10/5-12/2-1.5/1-hd/3-1.5

the 3rd quarter for my horse would be about 23 ..he was staggering and drifting out well before the eighth pole but kicked in again and missed 2nd by a half length..don't you think for a $4k claimer that's an amazing feat .. maybe a clock malfunction or the turf really wasn't yielding ?

[str]

hey str

picked a horse last night at mountaineer (R3) who finished 3rd @ 28-1 and was 1.5 lengths from the winner..it was a 4k open claimer at 1 mile 70 yards on a yielding turf

fractions

21.70/44.89/1:10.04/1:36.60/1:40.79


my horse

5-10/5-12/2-1.5/1-hd/3-1.5

the 3rd quarter for my horse would be about 23 ..he was staggering and drifting out well before the eighth pole but kicked in again and missed 2nd by a half length..don't you think for a $4k claimer that's an amazing feat .. maybe a clock malfunction or the turf really wasn't yielding ?

I'm thinking that whoever posted that thought they had to post something other than fast because of recent rain. But that course could not have actually been yielding. It was firm. It had to be as long as those times are correct. I did see that the other turf races on that card were also pretty darn fast and they were all cheaper claimers. That's what it looks like to me JBEX.



For those that are not that familiar with the terminology of turf course ratings, a yielding course is referring to the softness of the ground under the grass. Below is how they determine the label for the course that day.

yielding: a turf course with a significant amount of "give" to the ground due to recent rain. soft: a turf course with a large amount of moisture. Horses sink very deeply into it. heavy: Wettest possible condition of a turf course; not usually found in North America.

[JBEX]

I'm thinking that whoever posted that thought they had to post something other than fast because of recent rain. But that course could not have actually been yielding. It was firm. It had to be as long as those times are correct. I did see that the other turf races on that card were also pretty darn fast and they were all cheaper claimers. That's what it looks like to me JBEX.



For those that are not that familiar with the terminology of turf course ratings, a yielding course is referring to the softness of the ground under the grass. Below is how they determine the label for the course that day.

yielding: a turf course with a significant amount of "give" to the ground due to recent rain. soft: a turf course with a large amount of moisture. Horses sink very deeply into it. heavy: Wettest possible condition of a turf course; not usually found in North America.

yes that makes sense and good to know a scenario when that might happen.. thanks str

[JBEX]

hey str


the belmont oaks (R5) is being run today at 1 1/4 on the turf.. the favorite is an even money european who really should beat this field.. not surprisingly all 6 of her starts have come on soft turf and she probably will not get that today.. when they ship a horse over here they are obviously figuring she'll be running on firm turf.. how sure do you think they are that she'll take to it ?

[str]

hey str


the belmont oaks (R5) is being run today at 1 1/4 on the turf.. the favorite is an even money european who really should beat this field.. not surprisingly all 6 of her starts have come on soft turf and she probably will not get that today.. when they ship a horse over here they are obviously figuring she'll be running on firm turf.. how sure do you think they are that she'll take to it ?

Q. when they ship a horse over here they are obviously figuring she'll be running on firm turf.

A. The later in the year we get, the more they feel like there is a better chance for a softer turf. I was stabled next to the International barn back when they ran the DC International and actually asked that question to several of the trainers from Europe at Laurel every fall.

For this one, yes, probably figured it to be firm. I think they would look at it like, can my horse win on a firm turf in mid September in the USA? Because most horses do not "NOT" like a firm turf, they probably felt like it should not be a problem. Most horses that dislike a turf course will do so on the softer stuff.
Bad feet is the number one reason for not liking a firm or harder turf course. Probably not the case here. Not liking firm turf minus the feet thing is not nearly as prevalent as not liking the softer going. It's all about "trusting" the ground under you and the willingness, or lack thereof, of striding all the way out on a softer course. Much like dirt, wetter tracks will prevent some horses from fully striding, making them slower and categorized as not liking the off track.

When the BC races are in Calif., I have to think the Euros assume a firm turf but in Ky. for instance, more times than not in November, the turf will be softer and favor the Euros. So will the temps in KY. in Nov. as compared to the temps in Calif. 80 degrees it HOT for them. They like it in the 50's, right?

So the temp will factor in and I assume from our weather today in Md. the NY temps are probably in the 60's? Guessing. If so, that works for the Euro horse. And the turf course even at firm WILL be a tad softer than it would have been in July or August. The sun is less intense and there is more dew these days.

So if I'm serious about making a play on or against, see if the horses feet are white or dark and if the horse is grey or darker. If white feet and or a grey horse, they are typically more tender and that could come into play. If darker with dark feet, feet problem percentages go way down. It's all a guess but at least it's an educated one.

Q. how sure do you think they are that she'll take to it ?

A. Follow what I said and that will be your best bet at guessing correctly.

Hope that helps. Good luck!

[JBEX]

Q. when they ship a horse over here they are obviously figuring she'll be running on firm turf.

A. The later in the year we get, the more they feel like there is a better chance for a softer turf. I was stabled next to the International barn back when they ran the DC International and actually asked that question to several of the trainers from Europe at Laurel every fall.

For this one, yes, probably figured it to be firm. I think they would look at it like, can my horse win on a firm turf in mid September in the USA? Because most horses do not "NOT" like a firm turf, they probably felt like it should not be a problem. Most horses that dislike a turf course will do so on the softer stuff.
Bad feet is the number one reason for not liking a firm or harder turf course. Probably not the case here. Not liking firm turf minus the feet thing is not nearly as prevalent as not liking the softer going. It's all about "trusting" the ground under you and the willingness, or lack thereof, of striding all the way out on a softer course. Much like dirt, wetter tracks will prevent some horses from fully striding, making them slower and categorized as not liking the off track.

When the BC races are in Calif., I have to think the Euros assume a firm turf but in Ky. for instance, more times than not in November, the turf will be softer and favor the Euros. So will the temps in KY. in Nov. as compared to the temps in Calif. 80 degrees it HOT for them. They like it in the 50's, right?

So the temp will factor in and I assume from our weather today in Md. the NY temps are probably in the 60's? Guessing. If so, that works for the Euro horse. And the turf course even at firm WILL be a tad softer than it would have been in July or August. The sun is less intense and there is more dew these days.

So if I'm serious about making a play on or against, see if the horses feet are white or dark and if the horse is grey or darker. If white feet and or a grey horse, they are typically more tender and that could come into play. If darker with dark feet, feet problem percentages go way down. It's all a guess but at least it's an educated one.

Q. how sure do you think they are that she'll take to it ?

A. Follow what I said and that will be your best bet at guessing correctly.

Hope that helps. Good luck!

I really had no idea a horse used to running on a soft course more likely to adapt to firm going than vice-versa..also have heard (probably from you along the way lol) about how comfortable they are with the footing affecting their stride length..another good point that really makes sense is the difference between a firm turf at a cooler venue vs being out in
california or florida..firm is not the same everywhere and maybe even the subtle differences can make the competitors a little more vulnerable to the euro..don't have the form right in front of me so not sure of color but I think most galileo's aren't gray..I would think they wouldn't try this with foot issues but who knows..lots of great information..thanks str