Wallco NHL GOLD (+453 units in 6 years)

**Andy3568** · 03-25-13, 10:10 PM

Thanks a lot, Dallas.

**JonahHFalcon** · 03-25-13, 10:11 PM

Anyone with me on the extended chase?

**cutchemist42** · 03-25-13, 10:16 PM

Ugh, I hated doing this play knowing the trade happened but still went with it...

**spankmythighs** · 03-25-13, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by JonahHFalcon

Anyone with me on the extended chase?

I'm in for an extended chase since I jumped on this bet for the first time tonight. Thought maybe go to 9-0 on C bets but thats a negative ghostrider.

**ericallen555** · 03-25-13, 10:18 PM

in hindsight i wish i only bet nashville lol

**lilcanadian** · 03-25-13, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by JonahHFalcon

Anyone with me on the extended chase?

Not unless you go til they play LA lol

**bhattman** · 03-25-13, 10:45 PM

that was merde. 230 down the toilet

**Joboarder** · 03-25-13, 10:54 PM

like I said .....how many units invested to make what ????? ROI ? what is it right now and has been ?

**Joboarder** · 03-25-13, 10:55 PM

ROI ROI ROI ROI .......fU little players on this ...ROI

**Wallco99** · 03-26-13, 12:11 AM

Took most of the season, but here come the trolls!

**dalogester** · 03-26-13, 12:16 AM

^_^

**Wallco99** · 03-26-13, 04:45 AM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 76-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +37.80 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(3/25/13):
#72 Dallas (M/L) v1 (C) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 31-21
(B) 12-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: Min (-18.04 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 16-10
(B) 5-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)

Games for (3/26/13):
#79 Buffalo @ Tampa Bay (M/L) v1 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
#80 Montreal (+1½) @ Pittsburgh v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#81 N.Y. Islanders (+1½) @ Washington v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**Grinder12000** · 03-26-13, 06:45 AM

like I said .....how many units invested to make what ????? ROI ? what is it right now and has been ?

hmmm - up 37+ units! does it matter? How much are you up little man.

child trolls are funny. begging for attention like a little baby.

BTW - missed the B bet so I'm going one more. Can someone tell me when that is?

**Thadeus** · 03-26-13, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

hmmm - up 37+ units! does it matter? How much are you up little man.

child trolls are funny. begging for attention like a little baby.

BTW - missed the B bet so I'm going one more. Can someone tell me when that is?

It should be tomorrow... Minnesota - Phoenix (9.00 PM ET)...

BOL !

**cadetduke** · 03-26-13, 08:15 AM

If only negging people was a possibility.

**Joboarder** · 03-26-13, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

hmmm - up 37+ units! does it matter? How much are you up little man.

child trolls are funny. begging for attention like a little baby.

BTW - missed the B bet so I'm going one more. Can someone tell me when that is?

simple question ...how much have you put into play to win 37 units ...what is the systems ROI ? simple question ...right ?

**CrazyCarl** · 03-26-13, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Joboarder

like I said .....how many units invested to make what ????? ROI ? what is it right now and has been ?

All the plays are listed here, and the prices are on scoresandodds. You're free to add up the risked amount.

**chupz** · 03-26-13, 11:35 AM

Wallco is THE MAN!

On that note: Wallco, shouldn't Tampa bay be a v2 A bet as well? Buffalo has 3 wins in a row and Tampa has 3 loses in a row

**dalogester** · 03-26-13, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Joboarder

simple question ...how much have you put into play to win 37 units ...what is the systems ROI ? simple question ...right ?

Chut up.

**alexknyc** · 03-26-13, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Joboarder

simple question ...how much have you put into play to win 37 units ...what is the systems ROI ? simple question ...right ?

ROI is positive, which is more than some other systems and cappers can say.

**cadetduke** · 03-26-13, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by chupz

Wallco is THE MAN!

On that note: Wallco, shouldn't Tampa bay be a v2 A bet as well? Buffalo has 3 wins in a row and Tampa has 3 loses in a row

Tampa was the dog last game and only lost by 1.

First post....

Next, make sure these teams have also lost three straight ATS. This means that a favorite or even play will only have to lose the game, but a dog team has to lose by 2 or more goals.

**jonny2k4** · 03-26-13, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by alexknyc

ROI is positive, which is more than some other systems and cappers can say.

still new what is ROI also what does it mean when people say fade a team. don't kill the rookie. thanks :P

**kevmanetti** · 03-26-13, 01:46 PM

So we still take the p/l with NY despite it being -235?

**jonny2k4** · 03-26-13, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by kevmanetti

So we still take the p/l with NY despite it being -235?

yes

**kevmanetti** · 03-26-13, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by jonny2k4

yes

Ouch now I see why it can cost alot for a chase loss haha. Thanks.

**THam12** · 03-26-13, 02:10 PM

my plays are:
small plays:
hawks 1.5
canucks -1.5

large plays:
canucks reg
hawks reg
penguins reg

large parlay:
canucks ml
penguins ml
hawks ml

small parlay:
canucks -1.5
penguins -1.5
hawks -1.5

Hoping for a good night after i got slammed last night!

**alexknyc** · 03-26-13, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by jonny2k4

still new what is ROI also what does it mean when people say fade a team. don't kill the rookie. thanks :P

ROI = return on investment

fade= bet against

We may need a newbie glossary.

**jonny2k4** · 03-26-13, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by alexknyc

ROI = return on investment

fade= bet against

We may need a newbie glossary.

you the man alex, ty

**Wallco99** · 03-26-13, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by chupz

Wallco is THE MAN!

On that note: Wallco, shouldn't Tampa bay be a v2 A bet as well? Buffalo has 3 wins in a row and Tampa has 3 loses in a row

Tampa Bay won ATS on March 24 against Winnipeg, which would have been the third consecutive loss had they lost by 2 or more goals.

**slohar** · 03-26-13, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Joboarder

like I said .....how many units invested to make what ????? ROI ? what is it right now and has been ?

Something tells me that you would have no idea how to calculate the ROI for this system.

For starters, it would depend on what % of your bankroll a single unit represents. Let's say that 1 unit = 1% of bankroll. The system is up 37.8 units. Therefore, your ROI to date is 37.8%. That would be a stellar ROI for most investments for a single year. The stock market does not deliver those types of annual returns on average.

Keep in mind that the first bet for this season occurred on 1/30/13. Therefore, we have gotten a 37.8% ROI in less than two months! Not too shabby. And for those risking 0.5% of their bankroll per unit, they have earned 18.9% ROI. Also, not too shabby. Satisfied?

**Grinder12000** · 03-26-13, 05:49 PM

how much have you put into play to win 37 units simple question ...right

Actually it is.

BTW - ROI is Amount of financial gain / Total amount invested.

I really could care less about ROI. I look at the bottom line.

BUT since you asked - the ROI for the last TWO years is a consistent 6.5% after 452 games or +121 units. What's yours - is it even in the positive?

Since you are the brains here (LOL) you have to know that a chase is not a quality system but a quantity system.

So - you post 452 plays and we will see what your ROI is.

Why am I even answering you but you do say stupid things so it's sort of fun.

**slohar** · 03-26-13, 06:37 PM

ROI

I take the view that your investment for calculating ROI is your bankroll, not the sum of every wager placed.

**CrazyCarl** · 03-26-13, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by slohar

I take the view that your investment for calculating ROI is your bankroll, not the sum of every wager placed.

Not sure how he did it, but I disagree strongly with the way described in this post.

'Entire bankroll' is not truly 'invested' if it was never wagered.

**slohar** · 03-26-13, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by CrazyCarl

Not sure how he did it, but I disagree strongly with the way described in this post.

'Entire bankroll' is not truly 'invested' if it was never wagered.

If you play this system for an entire season, the sum your wagers will exceed your bankroll. (Unless your bet size is incredibly low relative to the size of your bankroll.) If your bet size is 1% of your bankroll and the system lost it's first 7 or 8 series of the season, your bankroll would be gone. So yes, if you wager 1% of your roll for each betting unit AND you commit to playing this system for an entire season, you will be investing/risking your entire bankroll.

**Grinder12000** · 03-26-13, 08:35 PM

If you play this system for an entire season, the sum your wagers will exceed your bankroll. (Unless your bet size is incredibly low relative to the size of your bankroll.) If your bet size is 1% of your bankroll and the system lost it's first 7 or 8 series of the season, your bankroll would be gone. So yes, if you wager 1% of your roll for each betting unit AND you commit to playing this system for an entire season, you will be investing/risking your entire bankroll.

so... What is your point. Are you my father?

dang. Maybe 3 more wins tonight. Suck,

Slohar is correct though. Since the average total unit loss in a 3 game chase in the 2 years is 21 units - if we lose 18 straight hockey games we are back to even!

and the system lost it's first 7 or 8 series of the season

So he is saying if we lose 8 series which is 24 straight favorites (which average -192 or ABOUT 66% winners on average)) ! We would be in deep doo doo!

Basically 177,000 to 1 for every 18 games. OR once every 534 seasons.