Wallco NHL GOLD (+453 units in 6 years)

**Alldayeveryday7** · 03-13-13, 01:44 PM

Sorry for the stupid question, I am trying to follow this... Can someone tell me what the play is:
#57 resumes V1(B)

thanks in advance

**Alldayeveryday7** · 03-13-13, 02:05 PM

Minnesota ML?

**dalogester** · 03-13-13, 02:14 PM

v1 plays are fades for teams that have won 3 games in a row straight up, so for the (B) bet you are to fade Anaheim again and their next game is Thurs. Mar. 14th @ Dallas. The bet will be Dallas and either Dallas M/L or Dallas +1.5 depending on what it closes at. Take losses from (A) bet PLUS what you were trying to profit and multiply this by the odds and thats your bet amount.

**Wallco99** · 03-13-13, 04:13 PM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 56-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +35.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.15 units)

(3/12/13):
#53 Vancouver (M/L) v1 (C) - Win
#56 Vancouver (M/L) v2 (B) - Win
#57 Minnesota (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
#58 Pittsburgh (M/L) v1 (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 22-19
(B) 12-6
(C) 6-0

v2 Plays
(A) 8-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)

Games for (3/13/13):
#57 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/14/13
#59 Detroit @ Calgary (+1½) v2 (A) (9:35 pm EDT)
#60 Ottawa (+1½) @ Montreal v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**cadetduke** · 03-13-13, 11:11 PM

Good wins tonight. Had to make my wager earlier in the day and had Calgary on ML

but I won my parlay with that also.

**Wallco99** · 03-14-13, 04:58 AM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 58-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +37.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.15 units)

(3/13/13):
#59 Calgary (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#60 Ottawa (+1½) v1 (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 23-19
(B) 12-6
(C) 6-0

v2 Plays
(A) 9-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)

Games for (3/14/13):
#57 Anaheim @ Dallas (M/L) v1 (B) (8:35 pm EDT)
#61 Washington (+1½) @ Carolina v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#62 Pittsburgh @ Toronto (+1½) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**Wallco99** · 03-14-13, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by cadetduke

Good wins tonight. Had to make my wager earlier in the day and had Calgary on ML

but I won my parlay with that also.

Why the frown face? Calgary won 5-2, M/L was a winner.

**cadetduke** · 03-14-13, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Why the frown face? Calgary won 5-2, M/L was a winner.

Oh I know. Frown face because if they did happen to lose the ML but they won the PL it would have been a loss for me.

**Alldayeveryday7** · 03-14-13, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by dalogester

v1 plays are fades for teams that have won 3 games in a row straight up, so for the (B) bet you are to fade Anaheim again and their next game is Thurs. Mar. 14th @ Dallas. The bet will be Dallas and either Dallas M/L or Dallas +1.5 depending on what it closes at. Take losses from (A) bet PLUS what you were trying to profit and multiply this by the odds and thats your bet amount.

Thanks for the explanation!!! Best of luck!

**Wallco99** · 03-14-13, 05:47 PM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 58-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +37.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.15 units)

(3/13/13):
#59 Calgary (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#60 Ottawa (+1½) v1 (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 23-19
(B) 12-6
(C) 6-0

v2 Plays
(A) 9-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)

Games for (3/14/13):
#57 Anaheim @ Dallas (M/L) v1 (B) (8:35 pm EDT)
#61 Washington (+1½) @ Carolina v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#62 Pittsburgh @ Toronto (+1½) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**Wallco99** · 03-15-13, 05:00 AM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 59-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +38.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-6.12 units)

(3/14/13):
#57 Dallas (M/L) v1 (B) - Loss
#61 Washington (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#62 Toronto (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 23-20
(B) 12-7
(C) 6-0

v2 Plays
(A) 10-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)

Games for (3/15/13):
#57 Resumes v1 (C) on 3/16/13
#62 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/16/13
#63 Detroit (M/L) @ Edmonton v2 (A) (9:35 pm EDT)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**Bawth** · 03-15-13, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 59-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +38.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-6.12 units)

(3/14/13):
#57 Dallas (+1½) v1 (B) - Loss
#61 Washington (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#62 Toronto (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 23-20
(B) 12-7
(C) 6-0

v2 Plays
(A) 10-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)

Games for (3/15/13):
#57 Resumes v1 (C) on 3/16/13
#62 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/16/13
#63 Detroit @ Edmonton (**) v1 (A) (9:35 pm EDT)

** Denotes line not available at time of post

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

Detroit is on a three game losing streak so aren't they the play?

**Grinder12000** · 03-15-13, 08:37 AM

SO - a poll

would you rather have a 2u play at -110 that wins 52% of the time

OR

a 2u play at -300 that wins 75% of the time.

I would rather have the -300 You?

**Andy3568** · 03-15-13, 08:44 AM

Wallco, I think you made a mistake.

Shouldn't the #63 play be to bet on Detroit to beat Edmonton as a V2 play?

**Joboarder** · 03-15-13, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 59-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +38.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-6.12 units)

(3/14/13):
#57 Dallas (+1½) v1 (B) - Loss
#61 Washington (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#62 Toronto (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 23-20
(B) 12-7
(C) 6-0

v2 Plays
(A) 10-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)

Games for (3/15/13):
#57 Resumes v1 (C) on 3/16/13
#62 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/16/13
#63 Detroit @ Edmonton (**) v1 (A) (9:35 pm EDT)

** Denotes line not available at time of post

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

WHY do you have#57 Dallas +1.5 last night a loss ?.....do you really play these games...seems you would know your 3 plays from the night before ?...because you even list it as moving on to a C bet on 3/16

**Andy3568** · 03-15-13, 09:00 AM

The play was actually a M/L (see post right above that one), and it was a loss.

**OFS** · 03-15-13, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Joboarder

WHY do you have#57 Dallas +1.5 last night a loss ?.....do you really play these games...seems you would know your 3 plays from the night before ?...because you even list it as moving on to a C bet on 3/16

Do you really read the rules of the chase before posting sarcastic questions? Final lines from scoresandodds means final lines.

**alexknyc** · 03-15-13, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

SO - a poll

would you rather have a 2u play at -110 that wins 52% of the time

OR

a 2u play at -300 that wins 75% of the time.
I would rather have the -300 You?

Doing the math, on 100 plays, you wind up down 0.8 units on the -110 plays and even on the -300 plays.

**Grinder12000** · 03-15-13, 10:05 AM

Doing the math, on 100 plays, you wind up down 0.8 units on the -110 plays and even on the -300 plays.

Sorry - 52.4% stop being so anal! Read between the lines! You know what I was trying to say - Or at least I hope you did unless you don't know English.

WHY do you have#57 Dallas +1.5 last night a loss ?.....do you really play these games...seems you would know your 3 plays from the night before ?.

OBVIOUSLY - someone does not have the balls to play the games or else he would have known LOL

**alexknyc** · 03-15-13, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

Sorry - 52.4% stop being so anal! Read between the lines! You know what I was trying to say - Or at least I hope you did unless you don't know English.

I have no idea what you were trying to say. I speak English but apparently need to brush up on my Grinder12000 English.

In your new scenario, you're up 0.4 units after 1000 bets. It's not much but it still beats the break-even of the -300 plays.

**Andy3568** · 03-15-13, 12:34 PM

I think the point was: If your net gains are equal, would you rather pay high juice with more wins or less juice with fewer wins?

**alexknyc** · 03-15-13, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Andy3568

I think the point was: If your net gains are equal, would you rather pay high juice with more wins or less juice with fewer wins?

If my net gains are equal? I don't care which.

**Grinder12000** · 03-15-13, 12:57 PM

I think the point was: If your net gains are equal, would you rather pay high juice with more wins or less juice with fewer wins?

Exactly - obviously alex has no feelings.

a 300u play at -900 and a 300u play at -110 are have absolutely zero anxiety involved.

**Joboarder** · 03-15-13, 01:27 PM

seems to me you would be a lot better off forgetting ALL the A plays pick up the B and C plays and be done with it ...up your play lower your BR exposure ....am I wrong ?

**Joboarder** · 03-15-13, 01:36 PM

anybody have the total numbers on the bets placed/bank roll exposure/ROI ?

**Andy3568** · 03-15-13, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Joboarder

seems to me you would be a lot better off forgetting ALL the A plays pick up the B and C plays and be done with it ...up your play lower your BR exposure ....am I wrong ?

With hockey, I would think that only betting B and C plays or only betting C plays might not be as profitable as doing so in other sports since so many +1.5 bets win; you might miss out on a lot of "A" wins. But I have not tested it. I have tracked it somewhat in other sports, and IN GENERAL, what I have found is that in good seasons, playing only B's and C's, or playing only C's, is better than playing the full series provided you risk the same amount on the series in each case. However, when you have a bad season (more C losses), you take a bigger hit by not playing the whole series. This year, there have been a lot of C plays, and they have done well so far, so it might have been a good strategy this year. It might be something to backtest if I had time.

**Wallco99** · 03-15-13, 04:32 PM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 59-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +38.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-6.12 units)

(3/14/13):
#57 Dallas (M/L) v1 (B) - Loss
#61 Washington (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#62 Toronto (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 23-20
(B) 12-7
(C) 6-0

v2 Plays
(A) 10-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)

Games for (3/15/13):
#57 Resumes v1 (C) on 3/16/13
#62 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/16/13
#63 Detroit (M/L) @ Edmonton v2 (A) (9:35 pm EDT)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**Wallco99** · 03-15-13, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Andy3568

Wallco, I think you made a mistake.

Shouldn't the #63 play be to bet on Detroit to beat Edmonton as a V2 play?

Yeah, I wrote that one down in the wrong column. Sorry for the confusion. Detroit is the play, update has been fixed.

**Wallco99** · 03-15-13, 05:10 PM

Can people please ask questions without quoting the plays post. There is absolutely no reason the plays have to be quoted to ask a question. I have fixed the erroneous play, now since people quoted the incorrect play post, the fixed one as well as the old one are still open in the thread. Can the people who quoted the plays please delete my quoted portion from your posts, before there is any more confusion today Thanks.

**Wallco99** · 03-15-13, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by Joboarder

WHY do you have#57 Dallas +1.5 last night a loss ?.....do you really play these games...seems you would know your 3 plays from the night before ?...because you even list it as moving on to a C bet on 3/16

Pay attention before acting like a jackass.

**Wallco99** · 03-15-13, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

OBVIOUSLY - someone does not have the balls to play the games or else he would have known LOL

Really! Do I actually have to post my bet sheets again for that clown?

**OFS** · 03-15-13, 05:50 PM

34/59 wins to date have been on the A bet

**Grinder12000** · 03-16-13, 09:07 AM

Well, I had Edmonton with the PL. SHOULD have bet both.

**slohar** · 03-16-13, 10:16 AM

Time to make the doughnuts.

Did Wallco sleep in this morning? I'm so used to being able to log on in the morning to see the picks. I suppose I should get off of my lazy butt and figure out the wagers on my own for once.

Nice comeback by the Red Wings last night.

**Grinder12000** · 03-16-13, 10:56 AM

Nice comeback by the Red Wings last night.

And nice hang on for us guys on Edmonton :-)