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nash13SBR MVP
- 01-21-14
- 1122
#71Comment -
nash13SBR MVP
- 01-21-14
- 1122
#72and this
p:shots on goal > po:shots on goal and p:AL and A and 0 <rest < 3 and season
do you have some others?
PS:formating problems, to see the query hit on reply with quote.Comment -
JMonSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-09
- 9800
#73Here's today's situation by Ross Benjamin on the under for Canucks/Blues game tonight:
Any road team with a total of 5.0 or less, coming off 1 or more losses in a row, and has a winning percentage of .510 to .600 on the season, versus an opponent with a winning percentage of .250 to .400, has seen 32 of those 41-games (78%) go under the total since 1996.
This is the query that expresses it, but the results of the limited years database we use points to the over. Am I missing something here with this query?
A and total<=5 and streak<=-1 and 60>WP>51 and 25 < o:WP <40Comment -
chopperockerSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
- 1784
#74Nice! This thread got busy, time to catch up.Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#75Oilers ML
Not sure who posted this but it points to Oilers ML tonight.
pt:shots on goal / pt:goals <= 7.1 and Sum(W@team,N=3) = 2 and op:date = date -1 and HWP > o:HWP and season >= 2011
Nice record, 42-14 and ROI, 24%
Add month=10, and team is 7-1 in this situation. Also a possible play on the under, ou record 1-7.Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#76Ross Benjamin situation, 3/28/14
Any home team in the 2nd half of the season that's facing an opponent that averages 2.85 or more goals per game, and that opponent has allowed 3-goals or more in each of their last 5-games, has gone 33-13 (71.7%) versus the money line in the last 5 seasons.
H and oA(goals)>=2.85 and game number>=42 and opo:goals>=3 and oppo:goals>=3 and opppo:goals>=3 and oppppo:goals>=3 and opppppo:goals>=3 and season>=2010
WP and ROI good.Comment -
escismSBR High Roller
- 10-12-14
- 105
#77I'm trying to understand this entire string. Previous Team SOG / Previous Team goals. Then I'm confused about Sum(W@team,N=3) = 2... Can someone explain that to me?Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#78In previous game, the team scored 1 goal for every 7 attempts or better. They have won 2 of their past 3 games. Their current opponent's last game was yesterday, so no rest for them. This team, which is the Oilers, has a better home win % than that of their opponent. We are looking at results since and including 2011.Comment -
escismSBR High Roller
- 10-12-14
- 105
#79Gotcha thanks. Interesting play. We'll see if it pays off tonight.Comment -
otunjSBR Hustler
- 06-03-14
- 79
#80Not sure who posted this but it points to Oilers ML tonight.
pt:shots on goal / pt:goals <= 7.1 and Sum(W@team,N=3) = 2 and op:date = date -1 and HWP > o:HWP and season >= 2011
Nice record, 42-14 and ROI, 24%
Add month=10, and team is 7-1 in this situation. Also a possible play on the under, ou record 1-7.
p:shots on goal / p:goals <= 7.1 and Sum(W@team,N=3) = 2 and o:rest = 0 and HWP > o:HWP and season >= 2011
1) don't need "pt:"..."p:" suffices
2) o:rest=0 ----- opponent had zero rest
itll save you time doing queries in long run.
Also, I'll freakin bet against hurricanes every day the way they are playing nowComment -
escismSBR High Roller
- 10-12-14
- 105
#81I was pretty sure o:rest=0 would suffice too, but just wanted to double check... That's interesting. I ran a situation earlier that makes me want to pick the Canes. Not a ton of data, but it's interesting. I figured the Canes have to win eventually right and the Oilers aren't that great, so I wanted to see how the Oilers play against a team that has a streak of -5 or more. t:team=Oilers and HF and o:streak<-5. They're 0-4 in that situation which was interesting me to. So I put 1U on the Canes just incase...Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#82To make things shorter:
p:shots on goal / p:goals <= 7.1 and Sum(W@team,N=3) = 2 and o:rest = 0 and HWP > o:HWP and season >= 2011
1) don't need "pt:"..."p:" suffices
2) o:rest=0 ----- opponent had zero rest
itll save you time doing queries in long run.
Also, I'll freakin bet against hurricanes every day the way they are playing now
Great, so circumstantial support and your gut instinct support the play.
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emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#83I was pretty sure o:rest=0 would suffice too, but just wanted to double check... That's interesting. I ran a situation earlier that makes me want to pick the Canes. Not a ton of data, but it's interesting. I figured the Canes have to win eventually right and the Oilers aren't that great, so I wanted to see how the Oilers play against a team that has a streak of -5 or more. t:team=Oilers and HF and o:streak<-5. They're 0-4 in that situation which was interesting me to. So I put 1U on the Canes just incase...
Not saying it won't win for you though.
Good luck!Last edited by emceeaye; 10-24-14, 05:52 PM.Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#84canadiens ML
Ross Benjamin's pick today...tweaked a bit to more closely match his stated win % for it:
p:margin=1 and pp:margin=1 and po:goals<=2 and ppo:goals<=2 and oA(o:goals)>=3.1Comment -
zxqwpdbgSBR Hustler
- 10-25-14
- 68
#85hello everyone. i am zxqwpdbg, but you can call me zxq.
i am new to this forum and have been waiting patiently for someone to make a nhl situational plays thread.
i started sports betting two weeks ago and only have intentions of betting hockey. prior to this i have been trying to teach myself sdql for the last few months getting ideas from other situational plays threads.
although i wasn't going to sign up and was just going to be silently reading the posts. i have decided that i would like to be a member of this forum and help contribute where i can.
i would like to start tonight.
i am going to email sportsdatabase tonight and see if they will add the conference parameter for the nhl if i donate $100.
also here is a query i wrote last week that has multiple plays for tonight.
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#86hello everyone. i am zxqwpdbg, but you can call me zxq.
i am new to this forum and have been waiting patiently for someone to make a nhl situational plays thread.
i started sports betting two weeks ago and only have intentions of betting hockey. prior to this i have been trying to teach myself sdql for the last few months getting ideas from other situational plays threads.
although i wasn't going to sign up and was just going to be silently reading the posts. i have decided that i would like to be a member of this forum and help contribute where i can.
i would like to start tonight.
i am going to email sportsdatabase tonight and see if they will add the conference parameter for the nhl if i donate $100.
also here is a query i wrote last week that has multiple plays for tonight.
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010
Nice job.
I hope you dont' mind, but I tweaked your query a bit to get a better WP.
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010 and HF and WP>50 and o:WP<50
Add season>=2013, and watch the WP increase to 15-0.
Thanks zxq, I'm going to play the senators ML tonight, which is suggested by the queries.Last edited by emceeaye; 10-25-14, 02:33 PM.Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#87Ross Benjamin post 3/17/2014:
Any road team with a total of 5.0 or less that scored 1-goal or less in their previous game, versus an opponent that scored 5 or more goals in their previous game, has seen 27 of those 36-games (75%) go under the total in the last 5 seasons.
Not active today though.
A and p:goals<=1 and op:goals>=5 and total<=5 and season>=2009Comment -
nash13SBR MVP
- 01-21-14
- 1122
#88hello everyone. i am zxqwpdbg, but you can call me zxq.
i am new to this forum and have been waiting patiently for someone to make a nhl situational plays thread.
i started sports betting two weeks ago and only have intentions of betting hockey. prior to this i have been trying to teach myself sdql for the last few months getting ideas from other situational plays threads.
although i wasn't going to sign up and was just going to be silently reading the posts. i have decided that i would like to be a member of this forum and help contribute where i can.
i would like to start tonight.
i am going to email sportsdatabase tonight and see if they will add the conference parameter for the nhl if i donate $100.
also here is a query i wrote last week that has multiple plays for tonight.
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010
Like your approach.Comment -
nash13SBR MVP
- 01-21-14
- 1122
#90playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010
on this play.
i have a strong trend which intend to take new jersey. so in these cases it is kind of a point of trust in each query.
this is it
A and 12 > tA(penalty minutes) > 11 and month != 11 and month != 12 and game number >= 5Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#91Ross post on 3/13/2014:
Any road team that’s playing with same season double revenge stemming from a pair of losses by 2-goals or more, and they’re coming off a road 1-goal win, has gone under the total in 65 of those 97-games (67%) in the last 18 seasons
Although Ross suggests the under with this situation, the WP in favor of the home team shows an even better WP and a very good ROI.
However, I don't think the 2 losses that brought on this double revenge game happened this season as he stated for his situation if I'm understanding it correctly:
PP:margin<=-2 and P:margin<=-2 and p:margin=1 and A and p:AW
SU: 19-50 (-1.17, 27.5%) avg line: 144.8 / -158.3 on / against: -$2,399 / +$2,129 ROI: -33.6% / +19.2%
OU: 28-40-1 (-0.04, 41.2%) avg total: 5.4Last edited by emceeaye; 10-25-14, 08:41 PM.Comment -
zxqwpdbgSBR Hustler
- 10-25-14
- 68
#92Welcome.
Nice job.
I hope you dont' mind, but I tweaked your query a bit to get a better WP.
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010 and HF and WP>50 and o:WP<50
Add season>=2013, and watch the WP increase to 15-0.
Thanks zxq, I'm going to play the senators ML tonight, which is suggested by the queries.
i emailed sportsdatabase like i said and for $100 they said they would add in the conference parameter. after i give him the money and a little bit of time to add it in, i expect the parameter should be in by the end of next week.Comment -
nash13SBR MVP
- 01-21-14
- 1122
#93hmm what about the divisions? the problem here is that the division structure changed last year. this may make things harder to analyze.Comment -
zxqwpdbgSBR Hustler
- 10-25-14
- 68
#94
about the division changes. i am sure sportsdatabase is aware of them and they might be able to work around it. maybe we can filter between new alignment and old alignment as an extra feature. we will have to see.Comment -
zxqwpdbgSBR Hustler
- 10-25-14
- 68
#95was just thinking i should explain my query for anyone who is wondering.
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010
in a season game, off a shutout win at home since 2010
here is the tweaked version from emc.
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and HF and WP>50 and o:WP<50 and season>=2013
in a season game, off a shutout win at home. the current game is a home favourite with winning percentage greater than 50 and opponent's winning percentage less than 50 since 2013.
nash's query.
A and 12 > tA(penalty minutes) > 11 and month != 11 and month != 12 and game number >= 5
an away game, with team's average season to date penalty minutes per game between 11 and 12. excluding the months november, december and excluding team's first 4 games of every season.
i like this query nash, i am gonna play around with later and see if i can tweak it myself.
let me know if i got those query's nailed down.Comment -
moshiSBR Wise Guy
- 12-18-11
- 801
#96playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010
on this play.
i have a strong trend which intend to take new jersey. so in these cases it is kind of a point of trust in each query.
this is it
A and 12 > tA(penalty minutes) > 11 and month != 11 and month != 12 and game number >= 5Comment -
JMonSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-09
- 9800
#97Ross post on 3/13/2014:
Any road team that’s playing with same season double revenge stemming from a pair of losses by 2-goals or more, and they’re coming off a road 1-goal win, has gone under the total in 65 of those 97-games (67%) in the last 18 seasons
Although Ross suggests the under with this situation, the WP in favor of the home team shows an even better WP and a very good ROI.
However, I don't think the 2 losses that brought on this double revenge game happened this season as he stated for his situation if I'm understanding it correctly:
PP:margin<=-2 and P:margin<=-2 and p:margin=1 and A and p:AW
SU: 19-50 (-1.17, 27.5%) avg line: 144.8 / -158.3 on / against: -$2,399 / +$2,129 ROI: -33.6% / +19.2%
OU: 28-40-1 (-0.04, 41.2%) avg total: 5.4
P:season=season
also it apears one day's rest is bringing it down...rest!=1Comment -
nash13SBR MVP
- 01-21-14
- 1122
#98
look at is this way
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010 and A and 12 > tA(penalty minutes) > 11 and month != 11 and month != 12 and game number >= 5
if both queries are true, we are fine, but that's like 1 in a million
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010 and (A and 12 > tA(penalty minutes) > 11 and month != 11 and month != 12 and game number >= 5)=False
1 st query true and 2nd query false excludes the new jersey game from yesterday, but yield and profit stay nearly the same
seems like you don't miss much of the profit if you cross-query the two.
A and 12 > tA(penalty minutes) > 11 and month != 11 and month != 12 and game number >= 5 and (playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010)=False
there you get the jersey game backComment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#99jets ML?
This one active on Jets today:
A and tA(o:goals)>=3.2 and po:goals>=3 and ppo:goals>=3 and pppo:goals>=3 and ppppo:goals>=3 and season>=2009
Thoughts?Comment -
nash13SBR MVP
- 01-21-14
- 1122
#100
A and F and p:F and p:W and date>=20111215 --> Jets
I would stay away from it or take a little and very small amount on the trend you prefer.Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#101Yeah, it doesn't look like that trend has been winning lately that much. Plus ROI sucks...Comment -
zxqwpdbgSBR Hustler
- 10-25-14
- 68
#10212.2% Yield on over 1000 picks vs 14.5% Yield on 340 picks
look at is this way
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010 and A and 12 > tA(penalty minutes) > 11 and month != 11 and month != 12 and game number >= 5
if both queries are true, we are fine, but that's like 1 in a million
playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010 and (A and 12 > tA(penalty minutes) > 11 and month != 11 and month != 12 and game number >= 5)=False
1 st query true and 2nd query false excludes the new jersey game from yesterday, but yield and profit stay nearly the same
seems like you don't miss much of the profit if you cross-query the two.
A and 12 > tA(penalty minutes) > 11 and month != 11 and month != 12 and game number >= 5 and (playoffs=0 and po:goals=0 and p:site=home and season>=2010)=False
there you get the jersey game back
i played around with the "12>tA(penalty minutes)>11" a little while ago, let me know what you think.
A and 12>tA(penalty minutes)>11 and penalty minutes>12 and o:rest<7 and (p:A and op:A or p:A and op:H) and playoffs=0
an away game with a teams season to date average of 11-12 penalty minutes per game. off a game where they had more penalty minutes then there season to date average. opponent is playing on no more than a week of rest. teams previous game was away and opponent's previous game was away or teams previous game was away and opponent's previous game was home.Comment -
nash13SBR MVP
- 01-21-14
- 1122
#103so the true/false query parameter is used to find out what game to bet on if two queries are suggesting different plays? what other uses does the true/false query parameter have?
i played around with the "12>tA(penalty minutes)>11" a little while ago, let me know what you think.
A and 12>tA(penalty minutes)>11 and penalty minutes>12 and o:rest<7 and (p:A and op:A or p:A and op:H) and playoffs=0
an away game with a teams season to date average of 11-12 penalty minutes per game. off a game where they had more penalty minutes then there season to date average. opponent is playing on no more than a week of rest. teams previous game was away and opponent's previous game was away or teams previous game was away and opponent's previous game was home.
do you want to have fewer picks and a high yield?
or is it all about having the most profit no matter how?
i prefer a mixture of both.
your tweak is good, every past season ended in profit. but the first one did that too. so i would use what you more like.
as for true and false queries. this is a good tool to determine if cross queries are contradicting each other.Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#104"losing record against the money line" terms
Is there a difference between a team having a "losing record" and a team having a "losing record against the money line"? If so, can someone please tell me the SDQL to express the latter as I'm trying to translate a bunch of Ross Benjamin situations into SDQL?
Thank you in advance.Comment -
emceeayeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-13
- 704
#105the question is: what is more important to you?
do you want to have fewer picks and a high yield?
or is it all about having the most profit no matter how?
i prefer a mixture of both.
your tweak is good, every past season ended in profit. but the first one did that too. so i would use what you more like.
as for true and false queries. this is a good tool to determine if cross queries are contradicting each other.Comment
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