~Wangchiu vs Dexter (Round 1)~

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  • Dexter
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    #1
    ~Wangchiu vs Dexter (Round 1)~
    • the contest will run month to month, with round 1 being from Monday 5/11 until Thur 6/11. 6/12 will be left open for tiebreaker games and setting up the next round - with the next round starting 6/13.
    • ****Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 5 units (to win) for that day which can be broken up however you choose. The math comes out to 4.5 units (.15 x 30) but we will round up for any fraction > .50, and round down to the nearest unit for anything .49 or below. So if you are allowed 7.20 units coming into the day, you can play to win 7 units. 7.70 units – play to win 8 units. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.
    • ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.
    • all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.
    • all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.
    • we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)
    • ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.
    • If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.
    • Once down to 0 units, you are out of the match.

    ie of a daily record update:

    Monday 5/11: +5 units

    Net: +65 units

    ie of selections made:

    Monday 5/11:

    mets -1.5/+110 (2 units)
    over redsox 10/-120 (5 units)
  • Dexter
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    #2
    So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

    May 11 - June 9, June 10 tiebreaker
    June 11 - July 10, July 11 tiebreaker
    July 12 - August 10, August 11 tiebreaker
    August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker
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    • Dexter
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      #3
      monday 5/11-

      braves +1.5/-140 (2 units)
      giants -141 (1 unit)
      indians -130 (1 unit)
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      • suicidekings
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        #4
        In response to a private message with a question about what units represent,

        One unit bet on a -110 fave would mean betting 1.1 units to win 1 unit. Alternately, a 1 unit bet on a +120 dog means betting one unit to win 1.2 units. Sorry if that wasn't clarified in the main thread.

        Additionally, this competition is baseball only. All lines are taken as the opening lines on SBR, and the only valid plays are ML, RL, and Totals. No RRLs or parlays allowed.

        Feel free to send any additional questions to me or Dexter

        -SK
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        • Dexter
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          #5
          Error in Tuesdays Line on SBR - use the following line for the dbacks/reds game on Tuesday:

          Dbacks -210
          Reds +180

          Dbacks -1.5/+100
          Reds +1.5/-120

          over 8.5/+100
          under 8.5/-120
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          • Dexter
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            #6
            Tuesday-5/12

            phillies -120 (2 units)
            over phillies 10/+100 (3 units)
            dbacks -1.5/+100 (1 unit)
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            • wangichu
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              • 11-07-08
              • 946

              #7
              sorry man, i couldn't find this thread until you posted it our think tank, and i was hardly home yesterday. i might need you to coach me a bit on the scoring once i get through a day of plays. I'll be back with picks in a little bit, just need to throw together some research.
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              • wangichu
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-07-08
                • 946

                #8
                Tuesday 5/12:

                PIT ML +105
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                • wangichu
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-07-08
                  • 946

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wangichu
                  Tuesday 5/12:

                  PIT ML +105
                  ok, i forgot that i can't edit my board here. That's my first play, i'll just post them all when i get locked in.
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                  • wangichu
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-07-08
                    • 946

                    #10
                    Tuesday 5/12

                    PIT ML +105 (1 unit)
                    ATL ML -101 (2 units)
                    SD ML +132 (1 unit)
                    KC ML +115 (1 unit)
                    CIN ML +190 (1 unit)
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                    • Dexter
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by wangichu
                      Tuesday 5/12

                      PIT ML +105 (1 unit)
                      ATL ML -101 (2 units)
                      SD ML +132 (1 unit)
                      KC ML +115 (1 unit)
                      CIN ML +190 (1 unit)
                      your lines are wrong. we're using the opening consensus line here at sbr (far left)

                      Free Betting Odds and line movements in real time at Sportsbook Review. Check out Sportsbook Review's live odds comparison table, with lines and spreads for all major sports.


                      ie, pitt +120
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                      • Dexter
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                        #12
                        Monday 5/11: +4 units

                        Net: +64 units
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                        • Dexter
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                          #13
                          Wed 5/13-

                          dodgers +105 (1 unit)
                          under indians 8.5/+100 (1 unit)
                          cubs (RL) (2 units) *line not up yet
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                          • wangichu
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-07-08
                            • 946

                            #14
                            lame ok... one more time:

                            Tuesday 5/12:

                            PIT ML +120 (1 u) W
                            KC ML +105 (1 u) L
                            ATL ML +160 (2 u) L
                            SD ML +140 (1 u) L
                            CIN ML +105 (1 u) W

                            kind of annoyed because i would have played them differently, but that's my dumba$$ fault

                            if i'm doing it right that's -2 units

                            58 units total
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                            • wangichu
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                              • 11-07-08
                              • 946

                              #15
                              f... so i can't play anything today. Didn't notice there was a day game. God these challenges are pains in the ass on people with night jobs and night schedules. Once i get my 9 to 5 i can at least wait until morning to see what i want before playing them... oh well, hopefully i won't screw up again tomorrow.
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                              • wangichu
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                                • 11-07-08
                                • 946

                                #16
                                so i guess they are non challenge plays, but for the hell of it...

                                FLA ML +135 (1 units)
                                KC ML -110 (3 units)
                                WAS ML +130 (1 unit)
                                CHC RL (+?) (1 unit)
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                                • Dexter
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by wangichu
                                  so i guess they are non challenge plays, but for the hell of it...

                                  FLA ML +135 (1 units)
                                  KC ML -110 (3 units)
                                  WAS ML +130 (1 unit)
                                  CHC RL (+?) (1 unit)
                                  sure you can play night games - read the above rules for deadlines. 5 minutes before first day game start time, and 5 minutes before start time of first night game
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                                  • Dexter
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Dexter
                                    Wed 5/13-

                                    dodgers +105 (1 unit)
                                    under indians 8.5/+100 (1 unit)
                                    cubs -1.5/+125 (2 units) *line not up yet
                                    i was stuck at work and asked ck to text you which he said he did....i'm adding:

                                    over rays 11/+100 (3 units)
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                                    • Dexter
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by wangichu
                                      so i guess they are non challenge plays, but for the hell of it...

                                      FLA ML +135 (1 units)
                                      KC ML -110 (3 units)
                                      WAS ML +130 (1 unit)
                                      CHC RL (+?) (1 unit)
                                      you can count the nats play - you still posted it before first pitch. now you know the rules
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                                      • Dexter
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wangichu
                                        lame ok... one more time:

                                        Tuesday 5/12:

                                        PIT ML +120 (1 u) W
                                        KC ML +105 (1 u) L
                                        ATL ML +160 (2 u) L
                                        SD ML +140 (1 u) L
                                        CIN ML +180 (1 u) W

                                        if i'm doing it right that's -2 units

                                        58 units total
                                        no, thats wrong:

                                        pitt +120
                                        kc -100
                                        atl -200
                                        sd -100
                                        cin +180

                                        Total for Monday was down 100 or 1 unit

                                        Net into Tuesday (59 units) *15% = 8.85 units or 9 units allowed today
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                                        • Dexter
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                                          #21
                                          Tue: -2 units

                                          Net: +62 units
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                                          • Dexter
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                                            #22
                                            Thur 5/14-

                                            phillies -135 (3 units)
                                            mets -125 (3 units)
                                            yankees -145 (2 units)
                                            under tigers 8.5/-120 (2 units)
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                                            • Dexter
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                                              #23
                                              Wed: +7.55

                                              Net: 69.55
                                              (x15% = 10 units allowed thur)
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                                              • wangichu
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-07-08
                                                • 946

                                                #24
                                                -1.75 units today... down to 56.25 Units (x15% = 8 units) .... (good practice i guess)

                                                and yeah i got CK's message, i honestly couldn't tell if he was telling me you played it or he wanted me to play it, but yeah i got the text so it's good by me. I'm kinda sucking at this... got most of my focus on the playoffs. I'm not quitting yet though for sure. I'll get it tomorrow, back with plays
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                                                • wangichu
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                                                  • 11-07-08
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                                                  #25
                                                  Thursday 5/14:

                                                  LAD ML +115 (1 unit)
                                                  FLA/MIL under 8.5 -105 (1 unit)
                                                  SD ML +160 (1 unit)
                                                  DET/MIN under 8.5 -120 (1 unit)
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                                                  • wangichu
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-07-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    Thursday 5/14

                                                    given the way that san diego is losing by 3 field goals, i'm down .05 units from my morning plays, putting me at 56.20. here's evening plays

                                                    BAL ML +120 (1 unit)
                                                    TOR ML +125 (1 unit)
                                                    SF ML +105 (2 units)
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                                                    • wangichu
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                                                      • 11-07-08
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                                                      #27
                                                      Thursday 5/14

                                                      given the way that san diego is losing by 3 field goals, i'm down .05 units from my morning plays, putting me at 56.20. here's evening plays

                                                      BAL ML +120 (1 unit)
                                                      TOR ML +125 (1 unit)
                                                      SF ML +105 (2 units)
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                                                      • Dexter
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by wangichu
                                                        Thursday 5/14

                                                        given the way that san diego is losing by 3 field goals, i'm down .05 units from my morning plays, putting me at 56.20. here's evening plays

                                                        BAL ML +120 (1 unit)
                                                        TOR ML +125 (1 unit)
                                                        SF ML +105 (2 units)
                                                        just an fyi - the 15% rule pertains to your roll coming into the day. you dont re-calculate it after day games for night games.

                                                        our under tigers was looking sweet until verlander/baker left for the pen
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                                                        • wangichu
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                                                          • 11-07-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Dexter
                                                          just an fyi - the 15% rule pertains to your roll coming into the day. you dont re-calculate it after day games for night games.

                                                          our under tigers was looking sweet until verlander/baker left for the pen
                                                          yeah that was killer, i mean i guess for the purposes of the competition it helped me that i didn't have as many units on it, but still... and yeah i did get that 15% rule. I calculated at 8 units and ultimately played them all today between my day and night plays. I'm starting to get the hang of this here, just need to get a rhythm down with my plays now. I've been focused on basketball for the last couple weeks between that competition and the fact that it's been my primary focus for money too. I'm definitely stoked about this though, especially once basketball is done/slowing.
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                                                          • Dexter
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by wangichu
                                                            yeah that was killer, i mean i guess for the purposes of the competition it helped me that i didn't have as many units on it, but still... and yeah i did get that 15% rule. I calculated at 8 units and ultimately played them all today between my day and night plays. I'm starting to get the hang of this here, just need to get a rhythm down with my plays now. I've been focused on basketball for the last couple weeks between that competition and the fact that it's been my primary focus for money too. I'm definitely stoked about this though, especially once basketball is done/slowing.
                                                            i think the 15% rule should really help a lot of people see the magic of money mgmt and discipline. hopefully the others bet this way for real - i do, as these will most always be my exact plays.
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                                                            • Dexter
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                                                              #31
                                                              Fri 5/15

                                                              tigers -140 (1 unit)
                                                              royals -1.5/-105 (1 unit)
                                                              over yanks 9.5/-120 (2 units)
                                                              over rays 9/-125 (3 units)
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                                                              • wangichu
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-07-08
                                                                • 946

                                                                #32
                                                                down another 2.8 units in the evening.... gotta buck this trend... 54.4 units (*.15 = 8 units today)
                                                                so far still looking, but i'm posting

                                                                KC -1.5 -105 (2 units)
                                                                SF -1.5 +120 (2 units)
                                                                FLA -1.5 +150 (1 unit)
                                                                WAS ML -105 (2 units)
                                                                COL ML +100 (1 unit)
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                                                                • Dexter
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Thur: -1.45 units

                                                                  Net: 68.1 units
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                                                                  • wangichu
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-07-08
                                                                    • 946

                                                                    #34
                                                                    -2.1 units, the plunge continues 52.3 units *.15 = 7.845, does that mean 7 units max or 8? I'll do 7 unless i hear otherwise.

                                                                    Sat 5/16

                                                                    ARI ML +110 (2 units)
                                                                    CIN ML -125 (1 unit)

                                                                    that's where i start and for now, where i sit.
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                                                                    • Dexter
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by wangichu
                                                                      -2.1 units, the plunge continues 52.3 units *.15 = 7.845, does that mean 7 units max or 8? I'll do 7 unless i hear otherwise.

                                                                      Sat 5/16

                                                                      ARI ML +110 (2 units)
                                                                      CIN ML -125 (1 unit)

                                                                      that's where i start and for now, where i sit.
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