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CarolinaDazeSBR Hall of Famer
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#316Yeah really glad I avoided those Jake Bombs or my season would have been over for sure, like Jake's after this week.Comment -
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#317lol you are a funny dude dazer
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firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#318when your biggest bet of the week was the bears
up 21-10 going into the 4th q and have the ball on the 3 yard line against brock osweiler
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CarolinaDazeSBR Hall of Famer
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#319Originally posted by firekillexwhen your biggest bet of the week was the bears
up 21-10 going into the 4th q and have the ball on the 3 yard line against brock osweiler
ill never understand
Exactly
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firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#320ok wtf is the deal here ?????
theres been multiple trades this season and im the ONLY one whos been vetoed?
i really dont wanna change the veto rules but this is getting extremely unfair, for an example hugo traded josh allen a bottom end qb on one of the WORST offenses in the league hes had 4 points, 10 points and 5 points in the last 3 weeks for a RB 2 in marshawn lynch who at that point had ALL DOUBLE DIGIT GAMES going into that trade
but im being vetoed a qb 1 who just literally scored 33 points today and a qb2, in a league where qbs are extremely valuable a QB1 is as valuable as a RB 1 , mcaffery is an RB1 not anything elite in standard scoring he literally finished with 6.6 points today , spider has 0 qbs on his roster he needs qbs , i am giving him 2 qbs which is overpaying because i need a RB
but then a qb2 who had 6 points and 8 points weeks prior, a RB that had 1 point two weeks in a row prior and a fill in RB who will be worthless when the main back is back , was then traded for a WR1 elite player in a 3 WR league which is even more valuable???? how does this make any sense whatsoever im offering more for the exact same level player and being vetoed... the first time i bit the bullet but this is just bullshit , with the previous trades that went through and what im offering theres 0 reason 4 people would veto this extremely fair trade.... of course people can trade but if everything is going through theres literally 0 reason im being vetoed when its not unfair, i could understand if nobody was trading but theres been plenty trades all season and mine is no worse then anybodys most would say im overpayingComment -
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#321killex, the chargers oline looks better than I can ever remember(since LT was in his prime anyhow)
I think this oline group is better personally, they are opening up gaping holes and Gordon and Ekeler lead league in rushing/ receiving yards for a RB duo...Gordon has improved a lot and Ekeler might be the most underrated player in the league...Ekeler hits the hole like he is shot out of a cannon and is so small and quick it is hard to get a good hit on him, not to mention he is a tough little guy as well and tough to tackle...this is a dangerous team especially when Bosa returnsComment -
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#322Originally posted by CarolinaDazeYeah really glad I avoided those Jake Bombs or my season would have been over for sure, like Jake's after this week.
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#323I see you guys are trying the exact same trade? you can't really threaten to change league rules because they don't suit your needs. It's obvious at least 4 people did not think the trade was fair and I can see why based on projections. My guess it it will be declined again, spider is due to make out like a bandit here.
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khicks26SBR Aristocracy
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#324Originally posted by firekillexok wtf is the deal here ?????
theres been multiple trades this season and im the ONLY one whos been vetoed?
i really dont wanna change the veto rules but this is getting extremely unfair, for an example hugo traded josh allen a bottom end qb on one of the WORST offenses in the league hes had 4 points, 10 points and 5 points in the last 3 weeks for a RB 2 in marshawn lynch who at that point had ALL DOUBLE DIGIT GAMES going into that trade
but im being vetoed a qb 1 who just literally scored 33 points today and a qb2, in a league where qbs are extremely valuable a QB1 is as valuable as a RB 1 , mcaffery is an RB1 not anything elite in standard scoring he literally finished with 6.6 points today , spider has 0 qbs on his roster he needs qbs , i am giving him 2 qbs which is overpaying because i need a RB
but then a qb2 who had 6 points and 8 points weeks prior, a RB that had 1 point two weeks in a row prior and a fill in RB who will be worthless when the main back is back , was then traded for a WR1 elite player in a 3 WR league which is even more valuable???? how does this make any sense whatsoever im offering more for the exact same level player and being vetoed... the first time i bit the bullet but this is just bullshit , with the previous trades that went through and what im offering theres 0 reason 4 people would veto this extremely fair trade.... of course people can trade but if everything is going through theres literally 0 reason im being vetoed when its not unfair, i could understand if nobody was trading but theres been plenty trades all season and mine is no worse then anybodys most would say im overpayingIn this league the trade makes sense to me. Its the reason people carry extra QB's, to fill a need later. As they know someone will be hurting at the position. With Spider's team not even being competitive at this point. I don't see it as a one sided deal. I see it more as how the game played. Yes the numbers are off, but the situation is right. Sometimes its about more than the numbers.Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21I see you guys are trying the exact same trade? you can't really threaten to change league rules because they don't suit your needs. It's obvious at least 4 people did not think the trade was fair and I can see why based on projections. My guess it it will be declined again, spider is due to make out like a bandit here.
I think this is more a case of recency bias against Fire for backing out of the deal with Jake. IMO you should need at least 6 veto's to cancel a trade. Just my thoughts.Comment -
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#325that might be true but that can't be changed now without a league vote, a rule can't be changed just because you want a trade to go through..gotta roll with the punches and the way the rules are set up...I think the trade would go through if spider was getting 1 qb, not 2...Originally posted by khicks26In this league the trade makes sense to me. Its the reason people carry extra QB's, to fill a need later. As they know someone will be hurting at the position. With Spider's team not even being competitive at this point. I don't see it as a one sided deal. I see it more as how the game played. Yes the numbers are off, but the situation is right. Sometimes its about more than the numbers.
I think this is more a case of recency bias against Fire for backing out of the deal with Jake. IMO you should need at least 6 veto's to cancel a trade. Just my thoughts.Comment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
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#326Agree you don't changes the rules mid season.Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21that might be true but that can't be changed now without a league vote, a rule can't be changed just because you want a trade to go through..gotta roll with the punches and the way the rules are set up...I think the trade would go through if spider was getting 1 qb, not 2...
But seeing that spider can't put a starting QB in his line up. The trade is fair & keeps the leaguecompetitive. Its not a case of collusion between owners looking to change the outcome of the league. Like I said its more of how the league is set up & the game is played. Just keep that in mind before you veto the trade. Not who is making the trade.Comment -
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#327you have to figure out a way within the rulesOriginally posted by khicks26Agree you don't changes the rules mid season.
But seeing that spider can't put a starting QB in his line up. The trade is fair & keeps the leaguecompetitive. Its not a case of collusion between owners looking to change the outcome of the league. Like I said its more of how the league is set up & the game is played. Just keep that in mind before you veto the trade. Not who is making the trade.
throwing a tantrum and threatening to go rogue is not the answer
I could care less who is making a trade, however if I decline it I have my reasons
I don't believe the declined trades have anything to do with recency bias but I could be wrongComment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
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#328Yes Fire made his bed & has to lay in it. But I'm more of a forgive & forget kind of guy.Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21you have to figure out a way within the rules
throwing a tantrum and threatening to go rogue is not the answer
I could care less who is making a trade, however if I decline it I have my reasons
I don't believe the declined trades have anything to do with recency bias but I could be wrong
I played Spider this week, saw the trade & made my decision not to veto after looking at his team. We all have recency bias, just don't let it cloud the big picture.
This is just my opinion, the others in the league can do as they please.Comment -
mpaschal34SBR Posting Legend
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#329Personally I think the trade is even in a two QB league.
I have no plans of vetoing it.Comment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#330just makes 0 sense theres been many many trades this seaon and literally not 1 has been vetoed other then the 2 ive been a part of ???? ive vetoed one trade the entire year which was keenum,drake and yeldon for mike evans which i told hugo personally hey i think its unfair im gonna veto probably..
theres legit 0 reason whatsoever this trade should be vetoed in a 2 qb league im giving a qb1 and qb2 for a mid range rb1 ... this is standard scoring mcaffery isnt some elite RB1 like in PPR.... i just want fairness in the league if everybody can trade let me do 1 trade its not like im ripping somebody off.... spider literally has 0 qbs on his team lol like he needs this trade as well, Winston just had 33 damn pointsComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#331what am i supposed to do Jake im overpaying already im not giving an entire team for 1 rb lol... if anybody else did this trade i 100% guarantee it wouldnt have been vetoed... if you didnt veto keenum,drake and yeldon for Mike evans but veto Winston and Rosen for Mccaffery youre bias theres no way around itOriginally posted by JAKEPEAVY21you have to figure out a way within the rules
throwing a tantrum and threatening to go rogue is not the answer
I could care less who is making a trade, however if I decline it I have my reasons
I don't believe the declined trades have anything to do with recency bias but I could be wrongComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#332best 2 rb combo in the league currently IMO ... Gordon looks like a top 5 rb and Ekeler is an amazing change of pace back... Once Bosa comes back the defense willl be nasty and Rivers is playing like an MVP ... If Hunter Henry somehow comes back for a playoff push these guys are a legit dark horse SB ContenderOriginally posted by JAKEPEAVY21killex, the chargers oline looks better than I can ever remember(since LT was in his prime anyhow)
I think this oline group is better personally, they are opening up gaping holes and Gordon and Ekeler lead league in rushing/ receiving yards for a RB duo...Gordon has improved a lot and Ekeler might be the most underrated player in the league...Ekeler hits the hole like he is shot out of a cannon and is so small and quick it is hard to get a good hit on him, not to mention he is a tough little guy as well and tough to tackle...this is a dangerous team especially when Bosa returnsComment -
CarolinaDazeSBR Hall of Famer
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#333Thanks Jake for putting me out of my misery, now I can just try to play spoiler the rest of year.Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
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firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#334that was me last year.Originally posted by CarolinaDazeThanks Jake for putting me out of my misery, now I can just try to play spoiler the rest of year.
dont worry ill put the nail in the coffin for Jake last week of regular season
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#335you are overpaying in terms of how much it will improve his team. I can see getting frustrated but maybe it was declined due to that? Also people that have played spider's team probably don't care but those that haven't played him would prefer an easier victory.Originally posted by firekillexwhat am i supposed to do Jake im overpaying already im not giving an entire team for 1 rb lol... if anybody else did this trade i 100% guarantee it wouldnt have been vetoed... if you didnt veto keenum,drake and yeldon for Mike evans but veto Winston and Rosen for Mccaffery youre bias theres no way around it
they will find a way to screw it up somehow but this running game is really starting to gel and now the defense has to be honest and Rivers is not getting teed off on by the opposing defense anymore. I was never that big a fan of Gordon but things are really starting to come together for him and he is having big game after big game...have to give him his due...I love Ekeler though he is so small and quick, he has had big plays in every game this year. Also, Derwin James is unbelievable. I thought he was going to be really good but not this quickly. Guy is making plays all over the field and is a great blitzer...I saw a stat recently he has almost as many QB pressures as some of the league's best sack artists, coming from a rookie that plays safety that is eye opening..guy can do it all and at a high level.Originally posted by firekillexbest 2 rb combo in the league currently IMO ... Gordon looks like a top 5 rb and Ekeler is an amazing change of pace back... Once Bosa comes back the defense willl be nasty and Rivers is playing like an MVP ... If Hunter Henry somehow comes back for a playoff push these guys are a legit dark horse SB Contender
my pleasure to put you out to pasture sir...I still have a faint heartbeatOriginally posted by CarolinaDazeThanks Jake for putting me out of my misery, now I can just try to play spoiler the rest of year.

your team is looking pretty strong all of a sudden and you have beat me like a drum the last couple of years so I like your chances. That said, I'm overdue to beat you and have had the analytics team scouring through the data.Originally posted by firekillexthat was me last year.
dont worry ill put the nail in the coffin for Jake last week of regular season
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firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#336i can see what youre saying jake but its a fair trade, it shouldnt be vetoed because people want an easier matchup in the future
why give hugo a 5-0 team mike evans for his 3 bench guys then?? just doesnt make logical sense lol
and haha ya i agree Jake tbh im due for a loss against you.. we usually have fairly even teams tbh , funny how we play twice this yearComment -
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#337I'd actually be surprised if Derwin does not make the pro bowl as a rookie.
Regarding the corners, very strong unit even Desmond King(the 3rd corner/slot) is a player
linebackers might be weakest unit on the team
this Rochelle kid on the Dline is playing quite well in Bosa's absenceComment -
thechaozSBR Posting Legend
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#338Yeldon and Keenum have been balling out..Originally posted by firekillexwhat am i supposed to do Jake im overpaying already im not giving an entire team for 1 rb lol... if anybody else did this trade i 100% guarantee it wouldnt have been vetoed... if you didnt veto keenum,drake and yeldon for Mike evans but veto Winston and Rosen for Mccaffery youre bias theres no way around it
Evans got 6 pts last week. Once crab legs came back I knew this would happen. Drake also on the come up and getting more touchesComment -
thechaozSBR Posting Legend
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#339Rosen is a dirt bag. Essentially it's Winston for Christian which is not a good tradeOriginally posted by khicks26In this league the trade makes sense to me. Its the reason people carry extra QB's, to fill a need later. As they know someone will be hurting at the position. With Spider's team not even being competitive at this point. I don't see it as a one sided deal. I see it more as how the game played. Yes the numbers are off, but the situation is right. Sometimes its about more than the numbers.
I think this is more a case of recency bias against Fire for backing out of the deal with Jake. IMO you should need at least 6 veto's to cancel a trade. Just my thoughts.Comment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#340do you watch NFL ? lolllOriginally posted by thechaozYeldon and Keenum have been balling out..
Evans got 6 pts last week. Once crab legs came back I knew this would happen. Drake also on the come up and getting more touches
keenum is legit garbage , every qb will have a good few games
fournette just said today hes about to come back any week ... aka yeldon is a handcuff
drake literally got outouched by frank gore again and he got 2x on yards, then he fumbled on the 1 yard line hes literally on the decline in every sense of the word with the teams playcalling......
how is trading a qb1 and a qb2 not worth a rb1 in a 2qb league??? when your trash trade just went through lol
most people would say QB1 for RB1 in this format straight up is worth it and im adding a QB2 just so it goes through and spider has 0 qbs so it makes the league balanced , you can say Rosen is a dirtbag but hes the exact same level as a Josh Allen and he was traded straight up for Lynch who had all double digit points up to that trade , but that went through and you didnt veto??? so hows that make any sense
to be honest its just plain and simple in my eyes if the last trade went through theres 0 reason whatsoever spider and my teams trade should be vetoed its plain and simple its fair , vetoes are for blatantly unfair trades not a trade thats slightly favoring one team or the other .... theres been like 5+ trades this year with no problems, this shouldnt be any different ... nobody is running away with a scam here it helps both teams in need of a positionComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#341i laughed and cheered when the Raiders passed on Derwin and Edmunds i knew we would get a stud regardless at that point either an amazing DB or LB ... We for sure need to get some LBs in the next draft though.. but damn Chargers got so much talent they just gotta stay healthy and keep their heads on and dont make bonehead mistakes on special teams and penalties .. sky is the limit with this squadOriginally posted by JAKEPEAVY21I'd actually be surprised if Derwin does not make the pro bowl as a rookie.
Regarding the corners, very strong unit even Desmond King(the 3rd corner/slot) is a player
linebackers might be weakest unit on the team
this Rochelle kid on the Dline is playing quite well in Bosa's absence
J
just sucks the Pats got blessed again like always right when they look down they fckin get Josh Gordon and Edelman backComment -
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#342based on what I have seen, I doubt there are many safeties playing at his level around the league...they are using him like a swiss army knife all over the field.Originally posted by firekillexi laughed and cheered when the Raiders passed on Derwin and Edmunds i knew we would get a stud regardless at that point either an amazing DB or LB ... We for sure need to get some LBs in the next draft though.. but damn Chargers got so much talent they just gotta stay healthy and keep their heads on and dont make bonehead mistakes on special teams and penalties .. sky is the limit with this squad
J
just sucks the Pats got blessed again like always right when they look down they fckin get Josh Gordon and Edelman backComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#343when they player compd him to Kam Chancellor i was a little put back , i dont watch a ton of NCAA ball , but more i watch him hes a beast on the blitzes and he can lay a huge hit.. just sucks Verrett could never get healthy we would have the best DB core in football by a landslide ... King has looked great though i like his game and i think he can be a starter for a while ... Bosa back soon will help the DBS a lot as well , a good pass rush always helps the secondaryOriginally posted by JAKEPEAVY21based on what I have seen, I doubt there are many safeties playing at his level around the league...they are using him like a swiss army knife all over the field.
and Jake side question. what trade adjustment would you like to see to not veto? since you said im overpaying im just wonderingComment -
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#344looks to me like he is a way better natural athlete than Chancellor, he might be closer to the late Sean Taylor.Originally posted by firekillexwhen they player compd him to Kam Chancellor i was a little put back , i dont watch a ton of NCAA ball , but more i watch him hes a beast on the blitzes and he can lay a huge hit.. just sucks Verrett could never get healthy we would have the best DB core in football by a landslide ... King has looked great though i like his game and i think he can be a starter for a while ... Bosa back soon will help the DBS a lot as well , a good pass rush always helps the secondary
and Jake side question. what trade adjustment would you like to see to not veto? since you said im overpaying im just wondering
I don't know, it looks like it might go through this time if it has not been squashed by nowComment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
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#345If I had no QB's I would take Rosen any day. Winston for CMC is a fair trade.Originally posted by thechaozRosen is a dirt bag. Essentially it's Winston for Christian which is not a good tradeComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#346Originally posted by khicks26If I had no QB's I would take Rosen any day. Winston for CMC is a fair trade.
Rosen is my 2nd fav rookie QB long term this class imo
But ya ive asked around in forums most people agreed Winston for CMC straight up in this format is fair, i just added Rosen to help spider be somewhat competitiveComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#347hilarious we got him super late as well, biggest steal in the draft IMOOriginally posted by JAKEPEAVY21looks to me like he is a way better natural athlete than Chancellor, he might be closer to the late Sean Taylor.
I don't know, it looks like it might go through this time if it has not been squashed by now
seeing Bosas younger brother tearing it up hes gonna be top 3 pick next yearComment -
thechaozSBR Posting Legend
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#348I drink a fifth a day, and you should drink lessOriginally posted by khicks26If I had no QB's I would take Rosen any day. Winston for CMC is a fair trade.Comment -
thechaozSBR Posting Legend
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#349Ok this is painful. I've watched NFL since I had a memory. Long time bud.Originally posted by firekillexdo you watch NFL ? lolll
keenum is legit garbage , every qb will have a good few games
fournette just said today hes about to come back any week ... aka yeldon is a handcuff
drake literally got outouched by frank gore again and he got 2x on yards, then he fumbled on the 1 yard line hes literally on the decline in every sense of the word with the teams playcalling......
how is trading a qb1 and a qb2 not worth a rb1 in a 2qb league??? when your trash trade just went through lol
most people would say QB1 for RB1 in this format straight up is worth it and im adding a QB2 just so it goes through and spider has 0 qbs so it makes the league balanced , you can say Rosen is a dirtbag but hes the exact same level as a Josh Allen and he was traded straight up for Lynch who had all double digit points up to that trade , but that went through and you didnt veto??? so hows that make any sense
to be honest its just plain and simple in my eyes if the last trade went through theres 0 reason whatsoever spider and my teams trade should be vetoed its plain and simple its fair , vetoes are for blatantly unfair trades not a trade thats slightly favoring one team or the other .... theres been like 5+ trades this year with no problems, this shouldnt be any different ... nobody is running away with a scam here it helps both teams in need of a position
1. Almost any asshole will get you 20 a game at QB. Cept Rosen and Crab Legs.
2. Yelon has done well. Leonard coming back soon? Guess who has Leonard? Me.
3. Evans got 6 last week. Keenum, drake, yeldon all individually outscored him. Famous "crab legs" Jamies is Jmarc part 2.
I've watched a lot of football, and know my shit. Check my streak and come up. I'm always open for a deal but know my game.Comment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#3501. good thing keenum is averaging under 16 points a gameOriginally posted by thechaozOk this is painful. I've watched NFL since I had a memory. Long time bud.
1. Almost any asshole will get you 20 a game at QB. Cept Rosen and Crab Legs.
2. Yelon has done well. Leonard coming back soon? Guess who has Leonard? Me.
3. Evans got 6 last week. Keenum, drake, yeldon all individually outscored him. Famous "crab legs" Jamies is Jmarc part 2.
I've watched a lot of football, and know my shit. Check my streak and come up. I'm always open for a deal but know my game.
2. a handcuff rb
3. mike evans is a wr1 in a 3wr league , not sure if you understand format/roster settings play a part in fantasy , Winston literally had 33 points in fantasy and youre calling him a bum... you just sound butt hurt and hate the bucaneers or something ...
every single person here said its fair, 1 person said im overpaying, but for some reason you think im ripping spider off??? somebody who has 0 qbs im giving 2 qbs so lets do some math... rosen is "Trash" but he will get more points then 0 right?? so that by definition is an upgrade, he would be gaining 2 qb points a week say winston averages 18-22 range and Rosen gets 8-14 range he will be getting all that instead of 0 , how in any way is he losing or getting the bad end of that deal?
you said veto your trade/ itll be cancelled "you accepted it when you were hammered" dont try and say its amazing now because it didnt get cancelled then veto my shit for no reasonComment
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