UFC 146: Dos Santos vs. Mir

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-23-12, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Oblivian

The Elkins line didn't jump out at anyone?

I'm going to wait on Hardy's line. I figure there is a decent chance he'll end up as an underdog. I saw where a lot of people aren't giving him much of a shot, but I'm not sure if they'll put their money where their mouth is.

I did like Elkins. I have played him everytime with the exception of against CO.

**Oblivian** · 05-23-12, 01:21 PM

I expected that line to be fairly close to even, maybe favor Brandao slightly.

I'm curious to see the prop line on Volkmann/Sass. I highly question how Sass will look the further it plays out. I think Volkmann has a chance to finish him. I may play Volkmann straight and also play a "fight ends inside distance" prop just in case Sass surprises me here.

**Vaughany** · 05-23-12, 01:21 PM

Yeah if Elkins can survive first round I guess he has a chance

**NunyaBidness** · 05-23-12, 01:24 PM

Will Elkins win by freak leg break or by gift decision?

**Oblivian** · 05-23-12, 01:31 PM

If he lets Brandao tee off early, he'll need a freak leg break.

**getlucky2win** · 05-23-12, 01:33 PM

he will kick him n the nuts at start of round. poke em n the eye a few minutes later. grab the cage next round and win a controversial split dec

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 05-23-12, 01:46 PM

Vaughany does your countryman Sass pull out another sub?

**bjpenn85** · 05-23-12, 01:57 PM

lol. lucky dude yes he is.

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-23-12, 02:05 PM

Vaughany's bet, if he bets.

Volkmann straight up hedged with Sass by Sub

**MMAbetMASTA** · 05-23-12, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I wouldn't lay the juice on Hardy.

yep...

Sucks bang didn't open as a bigger dog, I thought he would due to hardy's name. Still a close fight as both guys are inconsistent and predictable, but I def give bang the edge and would have taken him if a bigger dog. That one's gonna be a sweet little scrap!!!

**Vaughany** · 05-23-12, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

Vaughany does your countryman Sass pull out another sub?

See Bubzy!

But seriously, I dont think Sass will win by sub but stranger things have happened.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 05-23-12, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by Oblivian

The Elkins line didn't jump out at anyone?

I'm going to wait on Hardy's line. I figure there is a decent chance he'll end up as an underdog. I saw where a lot of people aren't giving him much of a shot, but I'm not sure if they'll put their money where their mouth is.

Oh yea, that is ridiculous value!!!! Hoping its still above +250 by the time its on my book, I'd be all over +300... Elkins is very underrated in every part of his game, I'd put diego at only a small fav around -150 or so... Don't know what they were thinking making that line as it is...

**MMAbetMASTA** · 05-23-12, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

Liking Volkman and Hardy, Kingsbury if he keeps climbing.

Why you like Kingsbu, Ill???

I had my eye on glover and the -200 range didn't seem too steep to me and was a little appealing (I knew he'd be a favorite but not being a known fighter I was hoping he'd be closer to evens...)

Curious how you think kingsbu stacks up against glover...?

**MMAbetMASTA** · 05-23-12, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Will Elkins win by freak leg break or by gift decision?

haha...

but really I think its a simple vision for a elkins win - deigo throws everything he has in the 1st and darren weathers the storm, slows down dramatically in teh 2nd and 3rd, allowing darren to take him down at will and grind out a 29-28. Easier said than done but at those ridiculous dog odds its worth a small sprinkle and is a likjely possibility imo...

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-23-12, 02:43 PM

Can Volkmann finish Sass is the real question

**NunyaBidness** · 05-23-12, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Can Volkmann finish Sass is the real question

I doubt Volkmann could finish a slice of pizza.

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-23-12, 02:54 PM

I had to give you pioints for that one.

However, Volkmann needs a win here. It is a presidential election here in the US. Romney needs all the support he can get

**Oblivian** · 05-23-12, 03:17 PM

I would not be shocked to see Volkmann get a sub here. I think he will end up wearing on Sass big time. Volkmann has been fairly conservative recently, but he wasn't always like that. His fight with Thiago was great. I think he realizes that his job may be in jeopardy if he doesn't get some finishes. He could get cut with just one loss. If Sass is gassed, it may be the perfect opportunity to go for it without much risk of losing. His chokes are legit.

**Vaughany** · 05-23-12, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Oblivian

I would not be shocked to see Volkmann get a sub here. I think he will end up wearing on Sass big time. Volkmann has been fairly conservative recently, but he wasn't always like that. His fight with Thiago was great. I think he realizes that his job may be in jeopardy if he doesn't get some finishes. He could get cut with just one loss. If Sass is gassed, it may be the perfect opportunity to go for it without much risk of losing. His chokes are legit.

yeah but he said on Helwani's show the other day tht he thinks he'll get cut if he loses so doesnt see the point in changing his style (from a focus on winning to entertaining)

**Oblivian** · 05-23-12, 03:21 PM

Who knows with him. The dude is nuts. He could be a master of disguise though. Chiros fool people for years into thinking they are real doctors.

**Vaughany** · 05-23-12, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Oblivian

Who knows with him. The dude is nuts. He could be a master of disguise though. Chiros fool people for years into thinking they are real doctors.

haha

**Oblivian** · 05-23-12, 03:25 PM

God damnit. I missed the opening lines while making a funny.

**Vaughany** · 05-23-12, 03:30 PM

hahaha

**PunisherIND** · 05-23-12, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Oblivian

God damnit. I missed the opening lines while making a funny.

lol. have to be quick fast with 5d. by the time the lines show up on BFO its already too late. f'ers.

**Vaughany** · 05-23-12, 03:34 PM

Kalikas has released odds for Shogun/Thiago Silva, Barao/Faber and Marquardt/Woodley btw

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-23-12, 03:38 PM

Damnit, 5dimes had Pineda at +165, I would have played that

**BIGDAY** · 05-23-12, 03:49 PM

Kinda wish Volkman/Sass was an aired fight. These two have very unique grapling styles. Most will view this fight as a boring fight probably. Unless one of them lock up a sick sub.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 05-23-12, 03:51 PM

aaaaaaaannnndddd elkins down to +200... such bs! Gonna be where I set the line by the time it gets to my book and prob won't be worth it at those odds...!

**Vaughany** · 05-23-12, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Kinda wish Volkman/Sass was an aired fight. These two have very unique grapling styles. Most will view this fight as a boring fight probably. Unless one of them lock up a sick sub.

Could be, but could also be a horrrrrible striking match!

**Vaughany** · 05-23-12, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

aaaaaaaannnndddd elkins down to +200... such bs! Gonna be where I set the line by the time it gets to my book and prob won't be worth it at those odds...!

only cos of the crazy swing on 5dimes/sportbet...other books still have him at +300. Kalikas might release him at +250 to +300 range

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-23-12, 04:08 PM

Live Betting on the main event is goign to be nuts.

**NunyaBidness** · 05-23-12, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Could be, but could also be a horrrrrible striking match!

Rewatching the Kampmann fight, Volkmann's striking was much better than I had expected it to be.

**Vaughany** · 05-23-12, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Rewatching the Kampmann fight, Volkmann's striking was much better than I had expected it to be.

yeah he did ok against Paul Kelly as well if I remember rightly

**BIGDAY** · 05-23-12, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Could be, but could also be a horrrrrible striking match!

**Wanna Bet On It?** · 05-23-12, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Oblivian

God damnit. I missed the opening lines while making a funny.

Dude, it was totally worth it. Here's a few SBR points for your troubles.