what gabe says.

**Vaughany** · 05-16-12, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Your 2 biggest plays lost and you're up three Hundo? Lol

The evolution of gambling!

**NunyaBidness** · 05-16-12, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Your 2 biggest plays lost and you're up three Hundo? Lol

You think that's impossible?

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-16-12, 10:01 AM

Its very possible. Basic example.

200 on Stephens + 250 LOSS
200 on Lopez + 160 LOSS
150 on Cody +175 WIN
150 on Zombie + 250 WIN
150 on Rivera -200 WIN

+312 winnings

**Imsmarterthanu** · 05-16-12, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Your 2 biggest plays lost and you're up three Hundo? Lol

They weren't my biggest plays lol

Kamal was like a 2.5 to 1 underdog how is that a big play ? I lost some money on that but I lost more on the Maldanado fight I came back up when I won Mckenzie, Sadollah and finally Zombie by Submission was like +1250 so do the math I won like 550 with all the wins combined

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu

They weren't my biggest plays lol

Kamal was like a 2.5 to 1 underdog how is that a big play ? I lost some money on that but I lost more on the Maldanado fight I came back up when I won Mckenzie, Sadollah and finally Zombie by Submission was like +1250 so do the math I won like 550 with all the wins combined

It's your biggest play because it's the play you made a thread about and the play you kept talking about everywhere...

Beelze, the example you provided showed 2 plays that are slightly bigger than the rest. This dude made it sound like he had his life savings on Kamal and Fabio.

**cheeese** · 05-16-12, 02:20 PM

Does it even matter?

**getlucky2win** · 05-16-12, 02:24 PM

cousin gabe what u think bout the velasquez line? im thinkin a small play on cain straitup and throwin him n a few parlays

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by getlucky2win

cousin gabe what u think bout the velasquez line? im thinkin a small play on cain straitup and throwin him n a few parlays

Don't like the line, Cain's current chin (used to think he has one of the best chins, now idono) against a tough guy with power doesn't warrant it.

I'm skipping this fight.

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 02:37 PM

Parlays for 146:

Dos Santos + Barboza + Nelson -- $240 to win $225

Dos Santos + Barboza + Nelson + Hunt -- $220 to win $535

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

You won alot of points in my "book", which really doesn't mean anything. You're one of the best here gabe, you just don't have to announce it to the forums.

Thanks, glad I was able to live up to your "Michael Jordan of MMA" title with the 9-0 day. Ha

**getlucky2win** · 05-16-12, 02:42 PM

my main concern was silva landing a shot similar to jds. i was thinkin cain has learned from last fight and worked on his game. If he uses his wrestling and takes silva to later rounds his quickness and cardio should dominate. juice is 2 much 4 me i guess same as jds vs mir

**getlucky2win** · 05-16-12, 02:45 PM

u dont think line is 2 high for jds or barboza???? i think they will dominate but damn

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-16-12, 02:46 PM

I was just giving an example before some more math geniuses came here and gave a lecture.

Happy to see someone else on Hunt here for 146

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by GigaOuts

I am jelly. I don't mean bet $5 or $10 straight up, I mean spent $5 parlay your 9 picks... it likely yield you $50,000+ since you pick so many dogs.

man, after seeing you talk about how you parlay all your picks and stuff, i decided that i would try the same for this card, but forgot to do it!!! i've even had cards where i've went 11-0 and 13-0 (i mentioned it when i first arrived here and got laughed at lol)... 9 out of 10 on the sweden card, and this great one... i am loving Fuel TV. lol

but yeah, man... i can't believe it slipped my mind to parlay all my picks. I even wanted to parlay just the underdogs, and forgot to do that... I could have hit the biggest parlays of my life... shame on me! #pothead

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by getlucky2win

u dont think line is 2 high for jds or barboza???? i think they will dominate but damn

No, Mir doesn't stand a chance with him. He's not gonna submit him like he did Nog. Sure, Nog is Junior's mentor, but Cigano is just on a whole nother level. Think of him as the Jose Aldo of the heavyweights, except he's got boxing instead of muay thai. Frank Mir is getting knocked out in the very first round. Take the UNDER.

**getlucky2win** · 05-16-12, 02:55 PM

im puttin in jds barboza melendez parlay

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

I was just giving an example before some more math geniuses came here and gave a lecture.

Happy to see someone else on Hunt here for 146

I feel like Struve could steal a decision... if he plays the outside kickboxing game and keeps moving around and keeping the distance, he'll probably win... but I think Hunt will touch his button within the 15 mins. I'm hoping for a first rounder. I've lost every time I've bet against Struve. I may not make a straight play on Hunt and may just leave this parlay. I'm not gonna go crazy with 146, gonna play things small. No picks I really love on there, as opposed to this Fuel TV card where I was so passionate about a lot of the plays. No plays I like, but there are a couple on the undercard I really like. Gonna have to see the lines...

**Vaughany** · 05-16-12, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Don't like the line, Cain's current chin (used to think he has one of the best chins, now idono) against a tough guy with power doesn't warrant it.

I'm skipping this fight.

There is a difference between chin and temple tho

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

There is a difference between chin and temple tho

exactly, you should take a shot to the side of your head better than you would to your chin.

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 03:05 PM

Play: Mark Hunt big, hedged with the Over-- and hope he wins a decision or late KO. =)

**PunisherIND** · 05-16-12, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by gabe

man, after seeing you talk about how you parlay all your picks and stuff, i decided that i would try the same for this card, but forgot to do it!!! i've even had cards where i've went 11-0 and 13-0 (i mentioned it when i first arrived here and got laughed at lol)... 9 out of 10 on the sweden card, and this great one... i am loving Fuel TV. lol

but yeah, man... i can't believe it slipped my mind to parlay all my picks. I even wanted to parlay just the underdogs, and forgot to do that... I could have hit the biggest parlays of my life... shame on me! #pothead

sounds like youd do well with round robins.

**Imsmarterthanu** · 05-16-12, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by gabe

It's your biggest play because it's the play you made a thread about and the play you kept talking about everywhere...

Beelze, the example you provided showed 2 plays that are slightly bigger than the rest. This dude made it sound like he had his life savings on Kamal and Fabio.

Yea I really thought Kamal would get back with a win but I learned that he is just not fit for the UFC , his fight IQ never improves and he still thinks he can knock dudes out in the UFC like he did with all the cans he fought in the smaller tier organization. Looks like he's a goner

**Imsmarterthanu** · 05-16-12, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Play: Mark Hunt big, hedged with the Over-- and hope he wins a decision or late KO. =)

The problem here with Hunt is Struve has a 1 foot height advantage and probably a 12 inch reach advantage as well

Struve can just play on the outside all day and kick hunts legs to a decision, I don't think Hunt is taking him down and he never really gets aggressive unless you get aggressive with him first. Then theres always the chance that Hunt gets in Struves guard and gets triangled

**Crassus** · 05-16-12, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu

The problem here with Hunt is Struve has a 1 foot height advantage and probably a 12 inch reach advantage as well

Struve can just play on the outside all day and kick hunts legs to a decision, I don't think Hunt is taking him down and he never really gets aggressive unless you get aggressive with him first. Then theres always the chance that Hunt gets in Struves guard and gets triangled

...are you honestly suggesting Struve will last 3 rounds kickboxing Mark Hunt?

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

...are you honestly suggesting Struve will last 3 rounds kickboxing Mark Hunt?

He can, if he uses a lot of movement, a la Condit vs Diaz.

His reach will make it that much easier. But I think Hunt will catch him. Then Travis Browne will beat Rothwell. Then Hunt will fight Browne for a possible title shot. Watch it unfold.

**Imsmarterthanu** · 05-16-12, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

...are you honestly suggesting Struve will last 3 rounds kickboxing Mark Hunt?

Mark Hunt is not much of a Kickboxer, he's more of a boxer when was the last time you saw Hunt throw a high kick or even a round kick

His striking comes primarily from the hands and he's not too aggressive more laid back, you don't see him rushing the action struve only gets caught when people rush him, if he plays it smart and fights like Semmy Schilt he could beat Hunt on points

**Crassus** · 05-16-12, 06:57 PM

Again...you guys are saying Stefan Struve has a stand-up has even the mildest semblance to either Condit or Semmy Schilt...

Oh yeah this guy has some sick movement. Oh wait.

**Imsmarterthanu** · 05-16-12, 08:02 PM

Struve does make stupid mistakes like rushing in hands down with flying knees and standing straight up back against the cage those are his disadvantages against hunt. I'm not underestimating Hunt in no way, I just think Struve has the ability to pull off come from behind submission victories and Hunt's ground game is borderline amateur.

**Crassus** · 05-16-12, 08:13 PM

I completely agree with that sentiment. Without a doubt Struve is going to be able to submit Hunt or get a referee stoppage if Hunt lets him take this to the ground. That is a WHOLE different story than Struve will use his distance ala Semmy Schilt (one of the greatest heavyweight kickboxers of all time) or Carlos Condit (a very accomplished striker in MMA) to kickbox Hunt to a unanimous decision...well respectfully I think Mark Hunt has a greater likelihood tripping on his walkout and the match being a DQ than that happening.

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

I completely agree with that sentiment. Without a doubt Struve is going to be able to submit Hunt or get a referee stoppage if Hunt lets him take this to the ground. That is a WHOLE different story than Struve will use his distance ala Semmy Schilt (one of the greatest heavyweight kickboxers of all time) or Carlos Condit (a very accomplished striker in MMA) to kickbox Hunt to a unanimous decision...well respectfully I think Mark Hunt has a greater likelihood tripping on his walkout and the match being a DQ than that happening.

You are disrespecting struve's Dutch kickboxing. It is the only reason he is in the UFC.

**NunyaBidness** · 05-16-12, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by gabe

You are disrespecting struve's Dutch kickboxing. It is the only reason he is in the UFC.

Strange since almost all of his wins are by sub, and several of the ones that aren't are still set up by his ground game.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 05-16-12, 10:03 PM

I think Gabe meant Struve's Dutch oven, not his Dutch kickboxing.

Cousin - I too, am squarely behind JDS and Barboza... not in a physical way. Lemme know when you wanna throw that pizza party with our SBR points.

**Crassus** · 05-16-12, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by gabe

You are disrespecting struve's Dutch kickboxing. It is the only reason he is in the UFC.

**Gee** · 05-16-12, 10:21 PM

Not sure where Hunt's chin is now compared to his younger days.

In his day, he could have stood there and taken all of Struve's best shots and just laughed.

We all know that if struve gets it to the ground he can win, but that doesn't happen IMO. Struve had a tendency to get caught and I don't think he's been hit like Hunt hits. With a good plan, I think Hunt wins.

**gabe** · 05-16-12, 10:33 PM

If Struve gets it to the ground, he ain't gonna win. His only way is a decision. If any of you think Condit could work his game plan against Diaz, but it's not possible for Struve to do it against a much slower, much shorter guy with an incredibly shorter reach advantage, then you shouldn't even be giving your opinions on MMA fights. That is Struve's only road to victory. That, and a lucky submission, a la Pat Barry. Getting Hunt to the ground (which he won't be able to do, if they end up on the ground, it'll by by accident) in no way guarantees a submission. Hunt's ground game has improved. His submission defence has improved. Again, outscoring Hunt to a decision is Struve's best chance at a victory, and in order to do that, his chin has to be able to withstand Hunt's punches, and I don't think it will, which is why my money is on Hunt.