UFC 137: St Pierre vs Diaz

**NunyaBidness** · 10-21-11, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

And now Tavares is out injured. Jorgensen/Curran bumped to main-card.

I hear Cerrone/Siver is taking place in the parking lot of the circle K down the street now.

**TheCalculator** · 10-21-11, 03:28 PM

Another blow to my plans. I was really expecting Jacoby to KO Tavares.

Clifford is a tougher fight IMO. He's takedowns are vicious. His cardio is questionable. I think Jacoby has better striking. But can he keep it standing? That's the question.

**urge2kill** · 10-21-11, 03:31 PM

free fighter insuance, great for the fighters but sucks for the fans.

**FlashinLeather** · 10-21-11, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by urge2kill

free fighter insuance, great for the fighters but sucks for the fans.

great for fans in the long run....

**Vaughany** · 10-21-11, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I hear Cerrone/Siver is taking place in the parking lot of the circle K down the street now.

ha yeah I guess they must be locked in with Spike or still want to get viewers on spike as it benefits UFC somehow?

**Vaughany** · 10-21-11, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

Another blow to my plans. I was really expecting Jacoby to KO Tavares.

Clifford is a tougher fight IMO. He's takedowns are vicious. His cardio is questionable. I think Jacoby has better striking. But can he keep it standing? That's the question.

I see he fought last wknd against Aguilar

**Vaughany** · 10-21-11, 05:16 PM

**Vaughany** · 10-21-11, 05:17 PM

**illmatick** · 10-21-11, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

haha, awesome

**more_betterness** · 10-21-11, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

I see he fought last wknd against Aguilar

I think he fought Artenas Young last week... A little bit better competition than Aguilar

**stefan084** · 10-21-11, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

so funny i was just watching this--BJ looks chubby but quick and strong(and happy) what did you read into this video V? Also how long ago was that cut above his eye I wonder? I noticed a lot of different takedowns were being worked into training........hmmm

**TheCalculator** · 10-21-11, 10:32 PM

I think the key to victory for BJ is to take Nick down and keep down and win rounds.

Key to victory for Diaz: use reach jab BJ into a decision win.

I've bet on Diaz.

Originally posted by stefan084

so funny i was just watching this--BJ looks chubby but quick and strong(and happy) what did you read into this video V? Also how long ago was that cut above his eye I wonder? I noticed a lot of different takedowns were being worked into training........hmmm

**Vaughany** · 10-22-11, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by more_betterness

I think he fought Artenas Young last week... A little bit better competition than Aguilar

Yeah Artenas was what I meant

**Vitooch** · 10-22-11, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

This video wins the internet.

Also I bet pretty big on Penn and small wager on Roop..

Might add Penn/Diaz ends inside the distance, Kongo and Cerrone straight up

**FlashinLeather** · 10-22-11, 08:48 AM

so much win in that video

**MMAbetMASTA** · 10-22-11, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

You are. Omar Little is the greatest character in the history of television.

Agree, 'The Wire' is hands down the best TV series I have ever seen, and omar is the coolest most gangster gay guy in the world.

**proposition joe** · 10-22-11, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

Agree, 'The Wire' is hands down the best TV series I have ever seen, and omar is the coolest most gangster gay guy in the world.

The character development in that series was INSANE. Even the smaller part characters like the Greek, Wallace from Season 1, Kenard, Chris Partlow etc. were more developed than most starring characters in other shows despite them not really having much backstory. Aside from my namesake, I'd say Marlo was my favorite. Ruthless ass dude.

HBO shows tend to be pretty badass, with a few exceptions.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 10-22-11, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by proposition joe

The character development in that series was INSANE. Even the smaller part characters like the Greek, Wallace from Season 1, Kenard, Chris Partlow etc. were more developed than most starring characters in other shows despite them not really having much backstory. Aside from my namesake, I'd say Marlo was my favorite. Ruthless ass dude.

HBO shows tend to be pretty badass, with a few exceptions.

yea man well put, GREAT characters - even those with small roles. I've enjoyed most shows from HBO. Sopranos was my favorite series of all time until I saw the wire. (Band of Brothers isn't a TV series but more a long movie, otherwise that would be my favorite of all time).

I have in my netflix a short tv series called 'the corner' which is about drug addicts in Baltimore, made by the creators of the wire. You seen it? Supposed to be good if you like the wire I guess.

*SPOILER*

I'll admit I was a bit pissed when stringer got capped... I wasn't sold on marlo being the new big dog. But marlo turned out to be perfect, a great replacement and fresh start to the rest of the series. Def a raw depiction of a young, wise, ruthless drug kingpin. Season 4 turned out to be my favorite season. I forget his name, but I thinmk it was 'biggs' or 'boggs' the junkie addict - that guy was a great actor. Season 4 where he kept getting bullied by that big 'dee-bo' like bum was pretty surreal - vivid scenes of a bum's life! Or ziggy from Season 2, what a shocker he turned out to be...

that's cool your name on here is after joe, never realized it till now haha. Cheers.

**illmatick** · 10-22-11, 06:39 PM

He does a good job with his character on Boardwalk empire as well.

Highly recommended for anyone who hasn't seen it.

**Vaughany** · 10-25-11, 04:21 AM

UFC 137 blog...

**ghost kid** · 10-25-11, 11:16 AM

Melvin breaks a chair and cries.

I broke more than a chair after that result.

**brooks85** · 10-26-11, 11:05 AM

dam vera is -550

**Vaughany** · 10-26-11, 11:07 AM

Yeah Nick got the odds out first

Was hoping Sportbet/5dimes would release them

**more_betterness** · 10-26-11, 11:10 AM

Bummer.. was looking to play on Jorgensen and Vera but both came out a little juicy for my taste... Hopefully they get a little more reasonable so I can at least use them as parlay fodder when 5dimes releases them.

**poopoo333** · 10-26-11, 11:11 AM

where do you guys see the jorgensen line going? not sure if i should take him @-365 or wait

**sirchadwick1** · 10-26-11, 11:16 AM

-550 on Vera? Horrible odds. No play there.

**Ewoi** · 10-26-11, 11:23 AM

I would take Jorgensen now. I think he will close at -400 or more.

**bjpenn85** · 10-26-11, 11:36 AM

Its a trend. Openers suck compared to a year ago. At least it feels like it.

**TheCalculator** · 10-26-11, 11:45 AM

Yup -- Jorgensen and Vera's opening odds are shite. Hopefully people pound the underdogs and push'em the other way.

**illmatick** · 10-26-11, 11:51 AM

I was hoping Vera would open around -350.

Ramsey Nijem -210 doesn't look too bad.

**terpkeg** · 10-26-11, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Its a trend. Openers suck compared to a year ago. At least it feels like it.

Books are obviously putting more time into the openers. They must be getting more action.

Plus, i think people are a little too chatty here prior to openers. SBR obviously has close ties to the oddsmakers who are opening these lines. Its gone as far as people actually going on a podcast with them and saying who they like before the odds are released. You would think true feelings were kept to one self, but probably not.

Feel like a saw a lot of Vera love. And, line is much higher than i expected. Think People!

**sideloaded** · 10-26-11, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by poopoo333

where do you guys see the jorgensen line going? not sure if i should take him @-365 or wait

What happened? Did you finally get banned too? Why are you posting over here?

**sideloaded** · 10-26-11, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by terpkeg

Books are obviously putting more time into the openers. They must be getting more action.

Plus, i think people are a little too chatty here prior to openers. SBR obviously has close ties to the oddsmakers who are opening these lines. Its gone as far as people actually going on a podcast with them and saying who they like before the odds are released. You would think true feelings were kept to one self, but probably not.

Feel like a saw a lot of Vera love. And, line is much higher than i expected. Think People!

Some here may work for the books.

**bjpenn85** · 10-26-11, 12:27 PM

from this day and on, i will not tell anyone who i like when fights get announced. And i will encourage others to do so. No point of betting if this ridiculously shitty line circus continue.

**Vaughany** · 10-26-11, 12:39 PM

It's more that Nick Kalikas knows what he's doing, so inevitably the odds are going to more accurate when bookmaker release the lines