UFC 137: St Pierre vs Diaz

**Das Jax** · 10-30-11, 12:03 AM

MMAJunkie released the results. "Nick Diaz, B.J. Penn, Bart Palaszewski and Donald Cerrone each earned $75,000 fight-night bonuses for their performances at Saturday's UFC 137 event.

Palaszewski earned the night's "Knockout of the Night" award, Cerrone picked up the "Submission of the Night" bonus, and Diaz and Penn took home "Fight of the Night" honors."

**illmatick** · 10-30-11, 12:20 AM

Ariel Helwani

Dana says Condit has agreed to step aside. They are looking to make Diaz-GSP on super bowl weekend. Condit vs TBD will be on the card too.

**Vitooch** · 10-30-11, 12:37 AM

An angry, motivated GSP=very bad news.

**cheeese** · 10-30-11, 02:40 AM

The post fight conference is up on piece of shit UFC.com

**MMAbetMASTA** · 10-30-11, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by jacktheknife

Wow Masta, you leaned hard on Siver. And you were worried about Hioki?

haha I know... what do you think? I dodged the biggest bullet of my mma life there. What should have been my worst night ended up being up 160 instead of down 660 as I should have.

Yea, probably my worst night of predictions ever. Mirko, siver, hioki - all guys I was pressing to win - lost in miserable fashion. Congrats to all you guys who came up and sorry to the roop backers you should have won and I should be down large. Cheers.

edit: only up 100, forgot I lost that 60 on mirko. Horrible night for me.

**cheeese** · 10-30-11, 03:20 AM

Man Diaz is seriously retarded. He should just retire and spare the 2 marbles he still has left in his head.

**Mr.Kitty** · 10-30-11, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by cheeese

Man Diaz is seriously retarded. He should just retire and spare the 2 marbles he still has left in his head.

Say what you will about him, he might not be the brightest kid on the block, but he sure is entertaining to watch and listen to!

Now with all thats happened GSP vs Diaz will be a bigger fight then before, cant wait for it.

**Vaughany** · 10-30-11, 05:20 AM

Diaz seems very bitter about some of the stuff that's happened during the run-in to tht fight! Also bitter about not getting the sparring and training tht he wanted, who was it he called out after the fight and said "I need you down here for sparring"?

**Vaughany** · 10-30-11, 05:23 AM

haha Awkward as hell with Hioki...why the hell didnt they have a translator!

**Vaughany** · 10-30-11, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Diaz seems very bitter about some of the stuff that's happened during the run-in to tht fight! Also bitter about not getting the sparring and training tht he wanted, who was it he called out after the fight and said "I need you down here for sparring"?

Ahh very interesting...Cesar Gracie talks about Andre Ward and guys who train with him not wanting to spar with Diaz

**Vaughany** · 10-30-11, 06:03 AM

haha Diaz is like a coked up Tony Montana up "Say ello to the bad guy"!!! Amazing post-fight press conference

**Mr.Kitty** · 10-30-11, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

haha Diaz is like a coked up Tony Montana up "Say ello to the bad guy"!!! Amazing post-fight press conference

For sure! Diaz is a misunderstood person who really is a genius!

Really starting to like Cowboy Cerrone, he is just a cool dude

**sirchadwick1** · 10-30-11, 09:01 AM

Did anyone watch the live lines on the Kongo/Meat fight on 5d? After the 2nd round Kongo was the dog at +250. I was a complete idiot for not going in at that point as I felt like he won the first two rounds... I could have completely hedged out. Crazy line.

And even though I lost against Diaz... Nick always impresses. The dude is just made to fight!

**Kaladarus** · 10-30-11, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Did anyone watch the live lines on the Kongo/Meat fight on 5d? After the 2nd round Kongo was the dog at +250. I was a complete idiot for not going in at that point as I felt like he won the first two rounds... I could have completely hedged out. Crazy line.

And even though I lost against Diaz... Nick always impresses. The dude is just made to fight!

All books had Kongo at high +money lines. They thought the judges would give the first 2 rounds to Mittrione. A lot of people believed the same, but the 3rd round was the only round something really happened and I guess that's why the judges gave it to him.

I could have hedged easily also, but looking at the line and thinking about it I thought Kongo would need to finish so I didn't play it either.

**TheCalculator** · 10-30-11, 09:32 AM

Picked 8 out of 11 winners last night.

My biggest failed pic was Jacoby. That was a new level of "new guy jitters". Other failed pics included: Mitrione and Griffin.

**jacktheknife** · 10-30-11, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

Picked 8 out of 11 winners last night.

My biggest failed pic was Jacoby. That was a new level of "new guy jitters". Other failed pics included: Mitrione and Griffin.

Not as bad as those of us who gave Danny Downes a shot. Battle of who sucks more.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 10-30-11, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

For the main card, I like:

Penn -120, Kongo +118, Mirko +190, Hioki -315, Curran +365

I plan to bet big on the winners, and small on the losers.

;p

Fortunately, I only bet $2 on Penn, Mirko and Curran.

And I bet like $5000 on both Kongo and and Hioki. So I did alright.

This new betting strategy is awesome. Thanks Gabe!

**Kaladarus** · 10-30-11, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Fortunately, I only bet $2 on Penn, Mirko and Curran.

And I bet like $5000 on both Kongo and and Hioki. So I did alright.

...

You forgot to mention that your biggest plays were on fights you never mentioned and never planned on making as your plays.

**Tree Rollins** · 10-30-11, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Diaz seems very bitter about some of the stuff that's happened during the run-in to tht fight! Also bitter about not getting the sparring and training tht he wanted, who was it he called out after the fight and said "I need you down here for sparring"?

The name he said was David Terrell. I'm not sure if you remember him, he hasn't fought for a long time but he used to be in the UFC. He has a wikipedia page that you can google. It says he got his black-belt from Cesar Gracie and he wants to come out of retirement, so i'm guessing they're friends and Nick was trying to do him a favor and get his name back out there.

**Vaughany** · 10-30-11, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

The name he said was David Terrell. I'm not sure if you remember him, he hasn't fought for a long time but he used to be in the UFC. He has a wikipedia page that you can google. It says he got his black-belt from Cesar Gracie and he wants to come out of retirement, so i'm guessing they're friends and Nick was trying to do him a favor and get his name back out there.

Ah right yeah thought it sounded something like tht - knew it wasnt Andre Ward or Shields he said! Yeah I read about Terrell wanting to come out of retirement recently

**TheCalculator** · 10-30-11, 05:28 PM

Retrospective look on UFC 137 odds:

Worst odds: Vera -400 -- His performance was more like -200 at best.

Best underdog: Bart (Vaughany called that one! Good call!)

Worst decision: Mitrione-Kongo (although it's arguable. The judge who scored it 30-27 was obviously mesmerized by Kongo's physique lol).

Excited about UFC 138 wagering wise. Expecting better value.

**Vitooch** · 10-30-11, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

Retrospective look on UFC 137 odds:

Worst odds: Vera -400 -- His performance was more like -200 at best.

Best underdog: Bart (Vaughany called that one! Good call!)

Worst decision: Mitrione-Kongo (although it's arguable. The judge who scored it 30-27 was obviously mesmerized by Kongo's physique lol).

Excited about UFC 138 wagering wise. Expecting better value.

There wasn't much to judge in the 1st and 2nd rounds, so a judge giving Kongo both rounds isn't completely uncalled for.

Hioki Roop was a worse decision IMO. Roop won rounds 1 and 3.

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 10-30-11, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

Ariel Helwani Dana says Condit has agreed to step aside. They are looking to make Diaz-GSP on super bowl weekend. Condit vs TBD will be on the card too.

can't wait

**jacktheknife** · 10-31-11, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

Retrospective look on UFC 137 odds:

Worst odds: Vera -400 -- His performance was more like -200 at best.

What about Hioki? He was about a -350 and there's a semi-decent case that he lost outright. Looked more like a +120.

**Vaughany** · 10-31-11, 04:05 AM

Could make an argument for all 3 of Vera, Griffin, and Hioki being overvalued considerably

**Tree Rollins** · 10-31-11, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

Retrospective look on UFC 137 odds: Worst odds: Vera -400 -- His performance was more like -200 at best. Best underdog: Bart (Vaughany called that one! Good call!) Worst decision: Mitrione-Kongo (although it's arguable. The judge who scored it 30-27 was obviously mesmerized by Kongo's physique lol). Excited about UFC 138 wagering wise. Expecting better value.

Yeah I can't see how Kongo won the 1st round. That round is either 10-10 (or 0-0 would be more like it) or, if not that then Mitrione wins the round based on aggression. Kongo pretty much just ran around that whole round. I started freaking out, i thought it was going to be another Houston Alexander or Kalib Starnes stunt.

**Vaughany** · 10-31-11, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Yeah I can't see how Kongo won the 1st round. That round is either 10-10 (or 0-0 would be more like it) or, if not that then Mitrione wins the round based on aggression. Kongo pretty much just ran around that whole round. I started freaking out, i thought it was going to be another Houston Alexander or Kalib Starnes stunt.

Yeah first round had to be equal

**ghost kid** · 10-31-11, 04:51 PM

I had 29-28 Mitrione, but I am probably in the minority. Kongo ran away the first 10 minutes of the fight, then clearly took the 3rd.

Still disappointed in MM.

**TheCalculator** · 10-31-11, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by ghost kid

I had 29-28 Mitrione, but I am probably in the minority. Kongo ran away the first 10 minutes of the fight, then clearly took the 3rd.

Still disappointed in MM.

I had the same score and the same opinion of MM.

**Vaughany** · 10-31-11, 06:35 PM

Koscheck is pushing for the Condit fight..."Just thinking!That dude should of took thefight with me on a week notice bc if he HADa chance2make it aclose fight,It was then,NOW 0 chance"

**rocky mattioli** · 11-01-11, 10:06 AM

that ridiculous hioki decision saved my night..i saw that mmaweekly scored it for him(god only knows how)......i don`t know how he edged that in anybody`s mind...octagon control?...he wasn`t aggressive..was out-struck......he looked like a deer in the headlights...

i really thought that hioki`s skillset would translate into the ufc better than some previous japanese fighters...particularly after watching his sandro fight...

but he appears to lack "physicality"....very passive....wrestlers are gonna take him down and hold him there.....and high level strikers are gonna give him fits....

apparently,the japanese either can`t cope with the travel/venue issues or,for the most part,just aren`t up to western/european standards...

make no mistake...roop is o.k....but that`s about it...don`t get fooled by this one and the grispi win....i don`t think that hominick blow-out was a fluke...

**Vaughany** · 11-01-11, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by rocky mattioli

that ridiculous hioki decision saved my night..i saw that mmaweekly scored it for him(god only knows how)......i don`t know how he edged that in anybody`s mind...octagon control?...he wasn`t aggressive..was out-struck......he looked like a deer in the headlights...

i really thought that hioki`s skillset would translate into the ufc better than some previous japanese fighters...particularly after watching his sandro fight...

but he appears to lack "physicality"....very passive....wrestlers are gonna take him down and hold him there.....and high level strikers are gonna give him fits....

apparently,the japanese either can`t cope with the travel/venue issues or,for the most part,just aren`t up to western/european standards...

make no mistake...roop is o.k....but that`s about it...don`t get fooled by this one and the grispi win....i don`t think that hominick blow-out was a fluke...

Yeah Roop has a lot of defensive holes. And your right about Hioki. Roop deserved tht fight - rnds 1 and 3