UFC 137: St Pierre vs Diaz

sportsfanatic · 10-29-11, 10:53 PM

i thought penn had a chance of winning a decision after the first round but diaz went crazy after that

knownone · 10-29-11, 10:54 PM

Diaz has impressive hands and solid JJ but I've gotta agree with what a lot of you are saying the guy stands no chance against the elite wrestlers in the division; He beat a smaller guy with simular style whose always had questionable cardio at WW and it showed up if you take away the notoriety of Penn this fight really isn't that impressive.

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

He took him down in the first round. He didn't try to do it again. He almost had diaz's back at one point.

Were you listening the the Rogan/Goldberg version? Rogan even called a couple of them. You didn't hear BJ's corner was yelling "the leg is there for you", and BJ shot a single, and Rogan commented on it? That was in the 2nd.

FindTheLock · 10-29-11, 10:55 PM

yeah penn won the first round for sure, but he was just surviving the other 2. I give him props though, because he took some hard shots and had his eye closed, but he just wouldn't go down.

FindTheLock · 10-29-11, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Were you listening the the Rogan/Goldberg version? Rogan even called a couple of them. You didn't hear BJ's corner was yelling "the leg is there for you", and BJ shot a single, and Rogan commented on it? That was in the 2nd.

I should rephrase. He didn't try hard enough. That was his ticket. He had too much of a reach disadvantage to trade punches.

Kaladarus · 10-29-11, 10:57 PM

BJ looked like Fedor did after the Silva fight. For a guy that has never really had a scratch on his face he sure got beat up today.

sportsfanatic · 10-29-11, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by knownone

Diaz has impressive hands and solid JJ but I've gotta agree with what a lot of you are saying the guy stands no chance against the elite wrestlers in the division; He beat a smaller guy with simular style whose always had questionable cardio at WW and it showed up if you take away the notoriety of Penn this fight really isn't that impressive.

diaz better hope the ufc doesn't give him fitch next!

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by knownone

Diaz has impressive hands and solid JJ but I've gotta agree with what a lot of you are saying the guy stands no chance against the elite wrestlers in the division; He beat a smaller guy with simular style whose always had questionable cardio at WW and it showed up if you take away the notoriety of Penn this fight really isn't that impressive.

Diaz does that against everyone he fights though. He's one of the best in the world from his back and is an excellent grappler, and he might have the best cardio in MMA; so to say he has no chance against GSP just isn't true. GSP probably will beat him, but Diaz will give him a hell of a fight.

sportsfanatic · 10-29-11, 11:00 PM

bj should probably take a break from fighting until edgar drops to featherweight. bj just isn't a natural welterweight.

FindTheLock · 10-29-11, 11:01 PM

The thing that diaz has is one of the most important. He has the ability to start and finish the 5th round like he started and finished the 1rst. The guy doesn't get tired no matter what kind of fight he is in. That is incredible.

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by sportsfanatic

diaz better hope the ufc doesn't give him fitch next!

I don't think that he wasn't trying, i just don't think he had it in him. Didn't have enough gas in the tank after the 1st round.

knownone · 10-29-11, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by sportsfanatic

diaz better hope the ufc doesn't give him fitch next!

lol yeah I can't see diaz winning that... we will probably hear "we've never seen anyone do that to diaz before" from rogan.

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by sportsfanatic

diaz better hope the ufc doesn't give him fitch next!

Not a chance. He's getting either Condit or GSP. The UFC knows what they're doing.

Vaughany · 10-29-11, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

He tried to take him down at least twice in the 2nd round, and tried again early in the 3rd. I think I'm missing a couple but i only want to state the one's that i know for a fact. They couldn't have been any more clear. I think there is a place that keeps those stats, maybe tomorrow you can look it up for yourself, or just rewatch the fight and you will see them. You can't miss it.

He had one attempt in second which Diaz stuffed and ended arched over BJ's back...tht was it

cheeese · 10-29-11, 11:04 PM

Where are they showing the post fight presser? UFC.com is worthless

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

The thing that diaz has is one of the most important. He has the ability to start and finish the 5th round like he started and finished the 1rst. The guy doesn't get tired no matter what kind of fight he is in. That is incredible.

Diaz and his camp were lobbying hard for the UFC to make this a 5 rounder (which all main events are from here on out, whether it's a title fight or not)....Dana wouldn't do it though b/c it was scheduled as a 3 round fight before the GSP injury, and he didn't think it was fair to switch it up on BJ's camp since they had been training for 3 rounds instead of 5.
Could you imagine if that was a 5 rounder? I wish. Probably would have been stopped though.

sportsfanatic · 10-29-11, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

The thing that diaz has is one of the most important. He has the ability to start and finish the 5th round like he started and finished the 1rst. The guy doesn't get tired no matter what kind of fight he is in. That is incredible.

also he has a really great chin. he got rocked by daley a couple of times and recovered

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

He had one attempt in second which Diaz stuffed and ended arched over BJ's back...tht was it

I know for a fact he went for a takedown in the 3rd, early on. Diaz was ready for it though and stuffed it pretty easily. Wanna bet something on it?

FindTheLock · 10-29-11, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Diaz and his camp were lobbying hard for the UFC to make this a 5 rounder (which all main events are from here on out, whether it's a title fight or not)....Dana wouldn't do it though b/c it was scheduled as a 3 round fight before the GSP injury, and he didn't think it was fair to switch it up on BJ's camp since they had been training for 3 rounds instead of 5.
Could you imagine if that was a 5 rounder? I wish. Probably would have been stopped though.

yeah, penn is probably making the right decision when he talks about retiring. I don't see him winning against the best of the best anymore. He can hang around and get punished, but I don't think he has the gas tank to win these types of fights. He would probably win every first round though lol

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by cheeese

Where are they showing the post fight presser? UFC.com is worthless

I'm wondering the same thing. I hate that site. Please let me know if you find it.

Vaughany · 10-29-11, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

I know for a fact he went for a takedown in the 3rd, early on. Diaz was ready for it though and stuffed it pretty easily. Wanna bet something on it?

Depends how u define a takedown attempt - the couple half-hearted attempts in third round tht u are thinking of were out of desperation to just give him a breather - even Dan Hardy would of defended them

Kaladarus · 10-29-11, 11:20 PM

I can't find the post fight press conference either. UFC site is horrible.

cheeese · 10-29-11, 11:21 PM

Only 2 of the greatest fighters of all time retired today but who wants to hear the press conference. Lets pimp this ******* fox bullshit that nobody gives a **** about.

illmatick · 10-29-11, 11:24 PM

UFC stiffed us on the press conference guys.

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Depends how u define a takedown attempt - the couple half-hearted attempts in third round tht u are thinking of were out of desperation to just give him a breather - even Dan Hardy would of defended them

Just b/c he didn't have the energy to go hard enough on the attempt, means it doesn't count? Righttttttttttt. I'm sure he didn't want that takedown early in the 3rd after getting totally battered in the 2nd and being completely out of gas, especially after the first 2 rounds were split. Ok, if you say so.

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

I can't find the post fight press conference either. UFC site is horrible.

What a bunch of bullshit.

Kaladarus · 10-29-11, 11:27 PM

Apparently they're not airing it live, but they will post it afterwards...

Don't bother looking guys.

Vaughany · 10-29-11, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

UFC stiffed us on the press conference guys.

Not sure if its started yet

jacktheknife · 10-29-11, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by jacktheknife

Got a round robin from 4's on Askren, Vera, Jorgensen, Nelson, Cerrone, Stanford, and the Titans with a little bit on Kongo, Downes and Carmont to upset. Say no to high juiced Japanese C-show champs making their freshman foray into jet-lagged major league cage fighting.

Originally posted by 99Boxster

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Considering it's a bad bet anyway, sure.

Yeeip, I like mine. Clusterfuck Day in NCAA took away from it, but not much.

Tree Rollins · 10-29-11, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Apparently they're not airing it live, but they will post it afterwards... Don't bother looking guys.

Dammit, I really like watching that thing to.

Thanks for the info though.

Das Jax · 10-29-11, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by cheeese

Only 2 of the greatest fighters of all time retired today but who wants to hear the press conference. Lets pimp this ******* fox bullshit that nobody gives a **** about.

Agreed. According to MMAfighting.com the UFC isn't showing it live, but will make it available after the fact. Weak sauce.

Also, about Diaz's next opponent... anyone who thinks it isn't going to be GSP is tetched in the head. He had the shot before this fight, then he calls him out in the ring with the whole world watching after just taking out a legend... it's a promotional no-brainer.

Kaladarus · 10-29-11, 11:36 PM

I know this sucks, but at least we know now. I wish I would have found out on their website rather than searching for like 20 minutes for this info. I don't understand what the problem is in posting some information on their website since the post-fight press conferences are so popular and people are always searching for them.

cheeese · 10-29-11, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

I don't understand what the problem is in posting some information on their website since the post-fight press conferences are so popular and people are always searching for them.

Seriously! If it is easier to find a coke dealer than it is to find the press conference something is wrong.

jacktheknife · 10-29-11, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by cheeese

Seriously! If it is easier to find a coke dealer than it is to find the press conference something is wrong.

Like Nick smashed every single camera.

Tree Rollins · 10-30-11, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by cheeese

Seriously! If it is easier to find a coke dealer than it is to find the press conference something is wrong.

It's always an ordeal to find that thing. I remember after an event about 6 months ago, i looked for the thing for like 4 days, literally scoured the damn internet before it was finally posted.