Kind of cool having a card where there isn't any crazy, long odds.
UFC 221: Rockhold vs. Romero (February 10, 2018)
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MMANickSBR MVP
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HurlSweatPantsSBR Wise Guy
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#142Man the more I watch Luke the more I get worried about his chin. I remember Branch stunning him in their last fight but Rockhold looked stationary and hittable for a large portion of that fight until it hit the mat. Not mentioning the Bisping and TRT Belfort fight. Wasn't really impressed with the CW fight either as far as defense was concerned.
The stats say Luke but the more I watch film the more I like the Gay Crusader in this fight.Comment -
DemonataBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#143Am I the only one on yoel Romero?Comment -
HurlSweatPantsSBR Wise Guy
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#144Originally posted by DemonataAm I the only one on yoel Romero?Comment -
MMANickSBR MVP
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#145Originally posted by DemonataAm I the only one on yoel Romero?Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#146Rockhold is super talented but I still don't know if he's learned his lesson yet defensively. Tough to callComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#147Originally posted by HurlSweatPantsMan the more I watch Luke the more I get worried about his chin. I remember Branch stunning him in their last fight but Rockhold looked stationary and hittable for a large portion of that fight until it hit the mat. Not mentioning the Bisping and TRT Belfort fight. Wasn't really impressed with the CW fight either as far as defense was concerned.
The stats say Luke but the more I watch film the more I like the Gay Crusader in this fight.Comment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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#148Definitely liking Blaydes here, and probably the over in that fight as well. I see +115 that it will go to decision. Wonder what the o/u will be? Where are these lines?Comment -
HurlSweatPantsSBR Wise Guy
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#149Originally posted by Hugo de NaranjaRomero is definitely a Knockout Artist but I’m not convinced that he has a path to victory outside of the KO. He’s not a submission threat or a consistent roundwinner.Comment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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#150All right - anyone wanna poke holes in this logic for me?
Hunt vs. Blaydes
I feel like if you look at Mark Hunt's past three fights you see that there's a very clear and realistic path to victory for Curtis Blaydes in this fight. I'll go in order:
Hunt vs. Lesnar: IMO this fight clearly showed Mark Hunt to be a hesitant striker against someone with a high takedown threat. You could see his striking was limited. He hung out way back at range and just kept his hands cocked, waiting, but failed to really initiate any offense. He didn't throw any kicks at all to try damage the lead leg, probably for fear of having them caught. In the center he showed some solid TDD, but mostly because he wasn't really fighting, he was just waiting to defend the TD. And against the cage once Brock could chase him there, he was unable to stuff multiple TD attempts or get his back off the cage.
Hunt vs. Reem: Hunt clearly upped his striking volume compared to the Lesnar fight. No threat of a takedown. Problem for him vs. Blaydes is that TD threat is as real as ever. Even though Hunt's striking looked a bit better in this fight, he was still low volume with his hands and didn't look to counter over top of kicks all that much (an opening that would be there vs. Blaydes). Also, Hunt's increased output seemed to gas him out faster, and he was easily walked to the cage and leaned on early in the 2nd round and on.
Hunt vs. Lewis: Perfect matchup for Hunt. A one punch striker with even worse cardio. Hunt could walk forward as Lewis backed himself up to the cage and looked for moments to rest constantly. Even striking as freely as he has in recent memory, Hunt still seemed to have trouble actually hurting Lewis, and Blaydes has a solid chin and Hunt isn't getting any younger. Also, Hunt showed very few (maybe none?) counters to Lewis's kicks as well. He took advantage of Lewis when he was backing up.
So what does all of this mean? Well, Hunt will likely be stymied a bit by Blaydes's wrestling threat. He will probably not have his heavy right leg kick working very well, and he will be keeping a distance that's a bit too far for his hands. The standup exchanges will probably be a lot of Blaydes using long jab and kicks to keep Hunt at range, and Hunt plodding forward but struggling to really pull the trigger. If he couldn't hurt Brock in a fight this style, then why will he hurt Blaydes? Further, Blaydes will not back up like Derick Lewis did, making Hunt even more hesitant. Finally, as shown by both Brock and Reem, Hunt can be controlled against the cage and taken down against the cage, particularly in round 2 and later. So all of that said, there is a very solid edge for Blaydes here. Am I reading any of this wrong?Comment -
HurlSweatPantsSBR Wise Guy
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#151Originally posted by ShagdogyAll right - anyone wanna poke holes in this logic for me?
Hunt vs. Blaydes
I feel like if you look at Mark Hunt's past three fights you see that there's a very clear and realistic path to victory for Curtis Blaydes in this fight. I'll go in order:
Hunt vs. Lesnar: IMO this fight clearly showed Mark Hunt to be a hesitant striker against someone with a high takedown threat. You could see his striking was limited. He hung out way back at range and just kept his hands cocked, waiting, but failed to really initiate any offense. He didn't throw any kicks at all to try damage the lead leg, probably for fear of having them caught. In the center he showed some solid TDD, but mostly because he wasn't really fighting, he was just waiting to defend the TD. And against the cage once Brock could chase him there, he was unable to stuff multiple TD attempts or get his back off the cage.
Hunt vs. Reem: Hunt clearly upped his striking volume compared to the Lesnar fight. No threat of a takedown. Problem for him vs. Blaydes is that TD threat is as real as ever. Even though Hunt's striking looked a bit better in this fight, he was still low volume with his hands and didn't look to counter over top of kicks all that much (an opening that would be there vs. Blaydes). Also, Hunt's increased output seemed to gas him out faster, and he was easily walked to the cage and leaned on early in the 2nd round and on.
Hunt vs. Lewis: Perfect matchup for Hunt. A one punch striker with even worse cardio. Hunt could walk forward as Lewis backed himself up to the cage and looked for moments to rest constantly. Even striking as freely as he has in recent memory, Hunt still seemed to have trouble actually hurting Lewis, and Blaydes has a solid chin and Hunt isn't getting any younger. Also, Hunt showed very few (maybe none?) counters to Lewis's kicks as well. He took advantage of Lewis when he was backing up.
So what does all of this mean? Well, Hunt will likely be stymied a bit by Blaydes's wrestling threat. He will probably not have his heavy right leg kick working very well, and he will be keeping a distance that's a bit too far for his hands. The standup exchanges will probably be a lot of Blaydes using long jab and kicks to keep Hunt at range, and Hunt plodding forward but struggling to really pull the trigger. If he couldn't hurt Brock in a fight this style, then why will he hurt Blaydes? Further, Blaydes will not back up like Derick Lewis did, making Hunt even more hesitant. Finally, as shown by both Brock and Reem, Hunt can be controlled against the cage and taken down against the cage, particularly in round 2 and later. So all of that said, there is a very solid edge for Blaydes here. Am I reading any of this wrong?Comment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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#152Originally posted by HurlSweatPantsThat's pretty solid, IMO. Blaydes has shown to have a chin and is getting better in striking although his bread and butter is his power wrestling. Meanwhile, Hunt seems to not be as accurate and hesitant to throw combos. That said, he has nasty power so I would definitely hedge any heavy bet with Hunt either winning ITD or winning by KO. I think the logical choice is Blaydes by decision if you ask me.Comment -
UncleChaelSBR MVP
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#153Hugo, who you got? Rockhold or Romero?Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#154Originally posted by UncleChaelHugo, who you got? Rockhold or Romero?Comment -
rsynweap84Restricted User
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#155Originally posted by DemonataAm I the only one on yoel Romero?
Course I hope Yoel smashes him, if he can get slept by a aging short-notice Bisping, Yoel can as well!Comment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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#156Pulled the trigger on Blaydes, Blaydes/Hunt o1.5, and Jingliang. I like these plays in a vacuum, but I hate to be stacking up against the home fighters.Comment -
turbozedSBR MVP
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#157Looks some significant movement on Li and Abe fights. Action on Matthews and Abe. Was totally expecting action on both fights to go the other way.
Guess I'm adding more to Li then...Comment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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#158Taking a close look at Ross Pearson right now. He actually looked a little bit improved vs. Hooker IMO, until he got KTFO of course. He has been struggling in his past few fights against bigger, longer fighters, but Hirota won't be that. Also, he was pulled from his last bout after a poor weight cut, and this card will not be having early weigh ins and/or IV rehydration. Hirota could be getting a bit old for this.Comment -
turbozedSBR MVP
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#159Originally posted by ShagdogyTaking a close look at Ross Pearson right now. He actually looked a little bit improved vs. Hooker IMO, until he got KTFO of course. He has been struggling in his past few fights against bigger, longer fighters, but Hirota won't be that. Also, he was pulled from his last bout after a poor weight cut, and this card will not be having early weigh ins and/or IV rehydration. Hirota could be getting a bit old for this.Comment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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#160^ Just recalling Hirota will be moving up to LW. Weight cut shouldn't be such a factor, but at least Pearson finally gets to be in there with someone his size, maybe even smaller.Comment -
turbozedSBR MVP
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#161Originally posted by ShagdogyPulled the trigger on Blaydes, Blaydes/Hunt o1.5, and Jingliang. I like these plays in a vacuum, but I hate to be stacking up against the home fighters.Comment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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#162Originally posted by turbozedYour patience netted you a 30 pt discount on Li hehe. Congrats!
About Pearson - I honestly can't tell about the wrestling. Hirota looked like he could outwrestle the world against Cole Miller, but he is a tall, skinny, weaker fighter who likes the ground. Nothing like Pearson. Meanwhile Pearson was taken down and pinned to the cage by Will Brooks, but he's a much larger fighter than Hirota will be moving up to LW for this fight. I was thinking I'd be ready to pull the trigger on Pearson, but I just can't get a good picture of how I think clinch/TD exchanges will go.Comment -
ThrillaSBR Posting Legend
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#163MMA Pros pick Rockhold vs Romero.
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ShagdogySBR MVP
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#164Formiga vs Nguyen:
A lot of love going around for Ben Nguyen lately and he's earned it with some solid performances. The question is, will he avoid scrambling with Formiga? He's a very action heavy fighter and he tends to just roll with the fight wherever it may be. Against Formiga he will need to reign it in, prioritize TDD and avoiding scrambles, and keep it on the feet where he can outstrike Formiga IMO. But can we trust him to do that?Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#165last few cards have been that way....and I agree....I like the surprise factor and the capping is more entertaining.....rather than HOW this -1000 wins...Originally posted by MMANickKind of cool having a card where there isn't any crazy, long odds.Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#166In general formiga>nguyen...........Originally posted by shagdogyformiga vs nguyen:
A lot of love going around for ben nguyen lately and he's earned it with some solid performances. The question is, will he avoid scrambling with formiga? He's a very action heavy fighter and he tends to just roll with the fight wherever it may be. Against formiga he will need to reign it in, prioritize tdd and avoiding scrambles, and keep it on the feet where he can outstrike formiga imo. But can we trust him to do that?Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#167That said.....it would be cool to see Nguyen do well.....Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#168Right -the guy is Bi pOlar-what Luke shows...Originally posted by rsynweap84I think not my boy, but I will be looking to hedge any Yoel bets by Rockhold in the later rounds.
Course I hope Yoel smashes him, if he can get slept by a aging short-notice Bisping, Yoel can as well!Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#169Originally posted by PaperTrail07In general formiga>nguyen...........Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#170I not totally disagreeing on the eye test.....but he has gone to decision with fighters like Cejudo, Borg, and also beat some good competition...While Nguyen has been on a tear, Formiga is the more polished veteran IMO....all around better....maybe not as young and hungry....but come on...Comment -
TeemSBR Sharp
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#171Formiga hasn't KO'd anyone and has been dropped by some heavy hitters. With Nguyen's striking game, Nguyen won't be afraid to exchange with him. Nguyen can crack and hasn't been submitted since 2006. I think Nguyen cracks Formiga early or picks up the decision with his strikes.Comment -
TeemSBR Sharp
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#172What do you guys think of Pedro getting a sub win here in round 1? Of course I'm thinking a KO in round 1 for him as well against Safarov.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#173Originally posted by TeemWhat do you guys think of Pedro getting a sub win here in round 1? Of course I'm thinking a KO in round 1 for him as well against Safarov.Comment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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#174I'm on both sides of this Nguyen/Formiga debate. I think Ben wins on the feet pretty clearly, and while he has some slick, excellent scrambles, I don't think his ground game is tight enough to hang with Formiga. He may not get subbed but I think he ultimately gets controlled.Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#175Should we maybe lean Nguyen +3.5 here boys? Formiga is not a 10-8 round winner by any means....would just need 1 round win and solid judging lol...Originally posted by ShagdogyI'm on both sides of this Nguyen/Formiga debate. I think Ben wins on the feet pretty clearly, and while he has some slick, excellent scrambles, I don't think his ground game is tight enough to hang with Formiga. He may not get subbed but I think he ultimately gets controlled.Comment
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