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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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    UFC 207: Nunes vs Rousey (December 30, 2016)


    PPV 10:00 p.m. ET
    Amanda Nunes vs Ronda Rousey (for women's bantamweight title)
    Dominick Cruz vs Cody Garbrandt (for bantamweight title)
    Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdum
    T.J. Dillashaw vs John Lineker

    Fox Sports 1, 8:00 p.m. ET
    Johny Hendricks vs Neil Magny
    Dong Hyun Kim vs Tarec Saffiedine
    Mike Pyle vs Alex Garcia
    Louis Smolka vs Ray Borg

    UFC Fight Pass 6:30 p.m. ET
    Alex Oliveira vs Tim Means
    Antonio Carlos Junior vs Marvin Vettori
    Brandon Thatch vs Niko Price



  • Hugo de Naranja
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    #2
    Super hyped for this card. Lots of great fights.
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    • PaperTrail07
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      #3
      Yessssss Cant Wait
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      • THE_LOCKSMITH
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        • strictlypaypal
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          #5
          I'll be in vegas for this, can't wait.

          I think cain tags werdum starts sending him on the decline. But at -200/-220 not much value.

          The co-main is so tricky. I think Cruz is so much better than Cody but so much is unknown. Cody has legit 1 hit ko power and it might take just 1. But at the same time obviously Cruz is going to be looking to extend the fight and Cody has been finishing everyone so fast his cardio is unknown. So many ifs. Again Cruz wins imo but at -220 not much value especially with Cody just being a punch away. Who knows Cruz might outclass him. I will be laying something small on Cody however. Although I really want to see Cruz win. (Hedge my feelings you know)

          the main im going rousey all the way. Been watching nunes fights and man if she doesn't get you in the 1st she has trouble. I think rouses is aware and will look for the clinch and I don't think she's gonna go dumb like the holm fight obviously. I think rousey gets her by KO or sub 2nd round. This I will be laying 4 figures on.

          Word is if holm wins the 145 belt and rousey wins this she wants to move up and retire with 2 belts.
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          • JIBBBY
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            #6
            Rousey is gonna get beat like drum again in a couple weeks..

            Her first fight back she is facing a VERY tough Amanda Nunes.. That's like running into a buzz saw... Amanda is tough as nails, just retired Mesha Tate and Rousey is coming off a long layoff.. Rousey also is coming off a brutal knock out that rocked her world mentally.... She was suicidal.. Those demons will probably creep back in her mind once she steps into the cage again..

            I think Nunes is gonna officially retire Rousey once again and for good..

            Easy money right here fellas.. ITD prop is a gem as well since it's a 5 round fight...

            1001 Amanda Nunes +140


            Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-19-16, 02:17 PM.
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            • JIBBBY
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              #7
              - On Cain as he will get redemption in this rematch, this shiiit isn't going down at high altitude in Mexico this go around... Werdum gonna get outworked in this fight for sure..

              - Cody and Cruz is tricky indeed.. Ya gotta think Cruz is gonna run all fight and do his stick and move deal and frustrate Cody.. Probably gonna be Cruz by decision as long as Cody doesn't press and walk into something...Cody by KO as a hedge is something to consider on the flip....

              - TJ Dill more skilled gotta go with him as well.. Another possible ko hedge on the flip with hard hitting John Lineker..

              - Also liking Neil Magny as I think JH is washed up..

              - Fading old man Mike Pyle as well...

              - On Dirty Bird Means and Smolka in the other fights.. Stun Gun not sure about?

              This card is easy to cap... Great card...
              Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-19-16, 02:12 PM.
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              • firekillex
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                very good card, people are sleeping on rousey here nunes isnt great in the cardio department and i rewatched the cat zingano fight she can be taken down and controlled... still shes been out for a while and was knocked out brutally her last fight.... its either nunes rd 1 for me or rousey straight imo , should be a barnburner

                cody/cruz i got cruz alllll day long in this straight and prop plays will be the way to go i actually think he could finish cody late here because cody is so aggressive

                cain vs werdum is tough to call if cain shows up the normal cain i think he will ko werdum here , werdum is the toughest matchup for him in the division but i think he is slowly declining , rumblings about cain having a surgery ready after this fight already are scary though

                hugos boy fighting again and he keeps winning, but i think tj/cruz are by far the worst matchups for him i think dodson won the last fight by a razor close edge and tj is just a better version of dodson imo , i see tj winning a hard fought decision here since linekers chin is made of some sort of granite from an alien planet .. tjs movement will be the key to winning this fight ( may be a big play for me )

                hendricks vs magny way to many question marks for my liking will most likely not bet this fight, we dont know which hendricks will show up hes looked absolutely terrible lately but i dont wanna be burned and the old hendricks shows up, he has a great style to beat magny if hes at close to his normal self, i could see either guy winning and the line shows it , maybe small play under but thats about it


                saffedine vs kim another great scrap, i think tarrecs movement and leg kicks will neutralize kims aggressive style and he will pull out a decision or late tko here , decent value as well

                i also hope tim means elbows the shit out of the fake cowboy after the stunts he pulled his last fight against will
                brooks


                ton of good fights to end off the year, super pumped for this card should be solid
                Last edited by firekillex; 12-19-16, 03:14 PM.
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                • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                  • PaperTrail07
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                    #10
                    what fight was that?
                    Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH



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                    • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                      #11
                      Cat Zingano vs Amanda Nunes
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                      • PaperTrail07
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                        #12
                        ahhh.......nice nice nice
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                        • JIBBBY
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                          Cat Zingano vs Amanda Nunes
                          Over 2 years ago and Cat is a beast much like Ronda was on the ground.. However, Nunes has improved in 2 years IMO (4 straight wins now).. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Amanda-Nunes-31496

                          Meisha Tate is a strong wrestler and couldn't ground Nunes... Sara Mcmann same deal when she faced Nunes.. Remember Cup Cake Tate fought Ronda Rousey pretty close when they matched up..Amanda Nunes just destroyed Meisha standing and when the fight went to the ground....

                          Also Ronda is a head case right now.. You just don't know how she is gonna respond in the Octagon after her brutal head kick KO..

                          I like Amanda also as she's been the more active fighter... Remember Ronda took alot of time off..

                          Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-19-16, 05:09 PM.
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                          • Ty$
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                            I like Caine the most on this card not great value but ok. I really like Lineker I think TJ is due for KO loss. And Cruz should cruise by Cody. Ronda... idk. I was leaning towards her hard but Jibby seems alittle too confident and has me second guessing. Thats why l usually bet better when I don't come to this fracking website. For instance i was on Whittaker 100% then I came to this website and I think everyone was against Whitaker thank God I didn't change my bet.
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                            • Ty$
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                              what fight was that?
                              DDT ya BISH
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Ty$
                                I like Caine the most on this card not great value but ok. I really like Lineker I think TJ is due for KO loss. And Cruz should cruise by Cody. Ronda... idk. I was leaning towards her hard but Jibby seems alittle too confident and has me second guessing. Thats why l usually bet better when I don't come to this fracking website. For instance i was on Whittaker 100% then I came to this website and I think everyone was against Whitaker thank God I didn't change my bet.
                                While I've had a shity month betting MMA overall by my standards I've still been hitting the main event fights in just about every UFC event.. This should be no different.. Usually in November and December I struggle in MMA a bit, did this last year.. It will pass..

                                Take caution in fading TJ Dil and Nunes anyways...
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                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                  #17
                                  Lineker!!!
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                                  • UncleChael
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                                    Smooth Cruz!!!
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                                    • strictlypaypal
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                      Meisha Tate is a strong wrestler and couldn't ground Nunes... Sara Mcmann same deal when she faced Nunes.. Remember Cup Cake Tate fought Ronda Rousey pretty close when they matched up..Amanda Nunes just destroyed Meisha standing and when the fight went to the ground....
                                      I think you're over/under estimating some things here. By the time miesha tried to go for a take down she was already seeing stars. And in that fight if you didn't see nunes taking that then damn, miesha wasn't even supposed to be in that position with the belt. Comparing miesha's grappling to rousey is asinine. Rousey is also a lot bigger and a lot stronger than nunes. Nunes is actually pretty petite compared to her. And to think rousey is gonna stay in front and take shots is crazy. She knows nunes gasses and will look for the clinch to tire her out. (Although I hope there is some exchange. Valentina, holm, and rousey can all be fighting at 145 easy. Nunes has beat none of them. There is def some worry about rouseys mindset but not enough to speak so confidently about nunes.
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                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                        #20
                                        While exciting ---this event could 5X or CRUSH your bankroll LOL.....wild fights here....IMO...
                                        Originally posted by strictlypaypal
                                        I'll be in vegas for this, can't wait.

                                        I think cain tags werdum starts sending him on the decline. But at -200/-220 not much value.

                                        The co-main is so tricky. I think Cruz is so much better than Cody but so much is unknown. Cody has legit 1 hit ko power and it might take just 1. But at the same time obviously Cruz is going to be looking to extend the fight and Cody has been finishing everyone so fast his cardio is unknown. So many ifs. Again Cruz wins imo but at -220 not much value especially with Cody just being a punch away. Who knows Cruz might outclass him. I will be laying something small on Cody however. Although I really want to see Cruz win. (Hedge my feelings you know)

                                        the main im going rousey all the way. Been watching nunes fights and man if she doesn't get you in the 1st she has trouble. I think rouses is aware and will look for the clinch and I don't think she's gonna go dumb like the holm fight obviously. I think rousey gets her by KO or sub 2nd round. This I will be laying 4 figures on.

                                        Word is if holm wins the 145 belt and rousey wins this she wants to move up and retire with 2 belts.
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                                        • PaperTrail07
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                                          #21
                                          Don't casually look past Linekar LOL....he will walk forward all day....could be a judging nightmare IMO....tj will hit and run....
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          - On Cain as he will get redemption in this rematch, this shiiit isn't going down at high altitude in Mexico this go around... Werdum gonna get outworked in this fight for sure..

                                          - Cody and Cruz is tricky indeed.. Ya gotta think Cruz is gonna run all fight and do his stick and move deal and frustrate Cody.. Probably gonna be Cruz by decision as long as Cody doesn't press and walk into something...Cody by KO as a hedge is something to consider on the flip....

                                          - TJ Dill more skilled gotta go with him as well.. Another possible ko hedge on the flip with hard hitting John Lineker..

                                          - Also liking Neil Magny as I think JH is washed up..

                                          - Fading old man Mike Pyle as well...

                                          - On Dirty Bird Means and Smolka in the other fights.. Stun Gun not sure about?

                                          This card is easy to cap... Great card...
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                                          • Ty$
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                                            #22
                                            All Miesha wanted was the belt after that she lost the fire. In my mind her last two fights don't even count as to how she actually fights. It's hard not to see Rhonda throwing Nunez on her face and then arm bar in her
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                                            • Ty$
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                              Don't casually look past Linekar LOL....he will walk forward all day....could be a judging nightmare IMO....tj will hit and run....
                                              I agree w you. Im putting my money on Lineker.
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                                              • PaperTrail07
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                                                Toss out that head kick and shes -550- -600 here IMO....
                                                Originally posted by Ty$
                                                All Miesha wanted was the belt after that she lost the fire. In my mind her last two fights don't even count as to how she actually fights. It's hard not to see Rhonda throwing Nunez on her face and then arm bar in her
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                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by strictlypaypal
                                                  I think you're over/under estimating some things here. By the time miesha tried to go for a take down she was already seeing stars. And in that fight if you didn't see nunes taking that then damn, miesha wasn't even supposed to be in that position with the belt. Comparing miesha's grappling to rousey is asinine. Rousey is also a lot bigger and a lot stronger than nunes. Nunes is actually pretty petite compared to her. And to think rousey is gonna stay in front and take shots is crazy. She knows nunes gasses and will look for the clinch to tire her out. (Although I hope there is some exchange. Valentina, holm, and rousey can all be fighting at 145 easy. Nunes has beat none of them. There is def some worry about rouseys mindset but not enough to speak so confidently about nunes.
                                                  What makes you say Nunes is petite compared to Rousey? Nunes is taller, and has longer arms and legs. Nunes beat Valentina by Unanimous Decision before she fought for the title. You got to check your facts bud.
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                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                    What's your Lean Hugo?---like Nunes but the Value FOR ME seems to be with Rousey....
                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                    What makes you say Nunes is petite compared to Rousey? Nunes is taller, and has longer arms and legs. Nunes beat Valentina by Unanimous Decision before she fought for the title. You got to check your facts bud.
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                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by strictlypaypal
                                                      I think you're over/under estimating some things here. By the time miesha tried to go for a take down she was already seeing stars. And in that fight if you didn't see nunes taking that then damn, miesha wasn't even supposed to be in that position with the belt. Comparing miesha's grappling to rousey is asinine. Rousey is also a lot bigger and a lot stronger than nunes. Nunes is actually pretty petite compared to her. And to think rousey is gonna stay in front and take shots is crazy. She knows nunes gasses and will look for the clinch to tire her out. (Although I hope there is some exchange. Valentina, holm, and rousey can all be fighting at 145 easy. Nunes has beat none of them. There is def some worry about rouseys mindset but not enough to speak so confidently about nunes.
                                                      I agree, the biggest question mark though is where is Rousey's head at?.. Before the knockout I'd agree with your MMA logic but Ronda has been out a long time, will her timing for takedown and clinch and throws be the same? I don't think so.. Can she be mentally broken when she starts getting punched hard in the face by Nunes? Will she be looking for a way out if the fight becomes a war?..

                                                      Oh, and if Ronda thinks to drag out the fight and test the Cardio of Nunes that's gonna be a big mistake, Amanda will beat Ronda up standing..

                                                      If the old Rousey shows up she'll probably win by arm bar... If a less then good Rhonda shows up I think Amanda Nunes is good enough now to win..

                                                      Just that simple in my opinion...
                                                      Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-20-16, 07:00 PM.
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                                                      • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                                        #28
                                                        Amanda Nunes falls ill less than two weeks before Ronda Rousey fight at UFC 207

                                                        "Amanda Nunes was supposed to at the UFC 207 media lunch in LA, but UFC said she’s a bit under the weather. Should be fine for fight, though"

                                                        http://www.mmamania.com/2016/12/20/14028722/amanda-nunes-falls-ill-less-than-two-weeks-before-ronda-rousey-fight-ufc-207

                                                        meanwhile Rousey posted a pic of herself

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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                          Don't casually look past Linekar LOL....he will walk forward all day....could be a judging nightmare IMO....tj will hit and run....
                                                          I'm not, I did mention in my above post Lineker by KO prop is a good hedge option.. TJ is pretty skilled though and well rounded.. He's a complete fighter and the former champ...

                                                          The only guy to knock him out was John Dodson and that was 5 years ago... TJ's only other loss that stuck is to the current champ Cruz.. He redeemed a early loss to RA in the rematch in his last fight... TJ Dill is kind of hard to bet against right now.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/TJ-Dillashaw-62507
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                                                          • JIBBBY
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                                                            ^^^Damn Ronda looks jacked.. Wonder if she's been juicing with her time off?.. Sure looks like it in that manly back picture.. Hmmmm?

                                                            Certainly not good that Amanda is sick right now and not training and preparing either.. My bets are already in now on that fight, no turning back for me.. ...
                                                            Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-20-16, 02:58 PM.
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                                                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                              What's your Lean Hugo?---like Nunes but the Value FOR ME seems to be with Rousey....
                                                              I'm on Nunes for small but could definitely see Ronda 1st round armbarring her.
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                                                              • firekillex
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                                                                lol jibby girls can have jacked backs without taking steroids... shes a world class olympic athlete coming off a loss shes probably been training extremely hard and has always been decently jacked . Main event testing shes probably been tested a ton , i highly doubt shes juicing and just because her back looks ripped mean absolutely nothing for the fight other then shes been training hard which was pretty obvious since she hates losing and probably doesnt want to lose again.... Nunes is good value as an underdog regardless but this is no easy call at all, either woman can easily win and both have a path to victory...
                                                                miesha tate after she won the belt wasnt the same fighter at all and her takedowns arent on the same level as rouseys imo comparing that and the mccmann fight to this is completely different tbh mcmann is an olympic silver medalist but she isnt the greatest mma fighter , rousey just has to the grit and aggressiveness that most girls dont have id compare this fight most to the zingano / nunes fight ... Still ill be on nunes as the +140 underdog but will not go huge on this and will most likely hedge prop with a rousey finish.. cant see this going all 5
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                                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                  lol jibby girls can have jacked backs without taking steroids... shes a world class olympic athlete coming off a loss shes probably been training extremely hard and has always been decently jacked . Main event testing shes probably been tested a ton , i highly doubt shes juicing and just because her back looks ripped mean absolutely nothing for the fight other then shes been training hard which was pretty obvious since she hates losing and probably doesnt want to lose again.... Nunes is good value as an underdog regardless but this is no easy call at all, either woman can easily win and both have a path to victory...
                                                                  miesha tate after she won the belt wasnt the same fighter at all and her takedowns arent on the same level as rouseys imo comparing that and the mccmann fight to this is completely different tbh mcmann is an olympic silver medalist but she isnt the greatest mma fighter , rousey just has to the grit and aggressiveness that most girls dont have id compare this fight most to the zingano / nunes fight ... Still ill be on nunes as the +140 underdog but will not go huge on this and will most likely hedge prop with a rousey finish.. cant see this going all 5
                                                                  Got to take the dog in WBW fights
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                                                                  • firekillex
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    most of the time i agree, basically a coin flip fight .. rousey the favorite because she has the big name so you take the dog money and hope the coin flips your way
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      I think Neil Magny picks JH apart standing in their fight... I'm on Neil Magny at even money..

                                                                      If Hendricks decides to use his wrestling in this fight and ground and pound Magny to death he could win.. Only problem with that theory is JH doesn't use his wrestling in fights anymore.. He's got that dreaded Josh Koscheck disease.. A wrestling based fighter that went stand up crazy and started getting knocked out in fights by better strikers..

                                                                      Anyways me tinks Johnny Hendricks is 33 years old now and I think his best days are behind him in MMA.. He seems burnt out to me a bit now and regressing....http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Johny-Hendricks-24539

                                                                      Magny seems to respond well after a loss, he's only 29 and probably in his MMA prime.. I'll take my chances with that being said.. Magny by decision I think, but he could knock out JH too.. So I'm going with the straight win at even money..

                                                                      Lastly Magny survived the wrestling and ground of Hector Lombard so Johnny Hendricks won't do much better...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Neil-Magny-69166



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