A doctor stoppage with the hand injury is listed as KO win.. I know what a KO out cold is and I did do my homework.. Cruz didn't completely knock out the Asian dude either.. Jon Dodson didn't knock out TJ cold as well. Bottom line though all were listed as KO's and paid out as such.. I bet the Cruz KO and split decision props and if either hit I'll be happy.....
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I agree with almost all of your points. Best of luck tomorrow. My take is that the decisionater will begin to run out of gas in the championship rounds this time around. He's a pro, although the adrenaline dump and ring rust are bound to take a toll in the 4th and 5th. It's a moral victory for Cruz just to make it to fight night. Nothing against him. I just think TJ is going to be too quick and have a bigger gas tank.Comment -
Tj is better in every area, i'd be really surprised if this fight gets out the first round, I know that seems bold to most, but cruz has absolutley horrible striking defense, he's not as hard to hit as people think he is, but i agree its next to 0% chance cruz makes the final bell, and even by some miracle he would, he loses every single round by a wide margin.....Comment -
bowes hurt his hand in the previous fight before he fought cruz, and hurt it on the first punch of this fight, it had nothing to do with cruz and nothing to do with the point you were trying to make about cruz being able to knock guys out....cruz did ko asian guy and dillashaw did get ko'd by dodson in his first ufc fight many of years ago, ref stopped both those fights, bowles quit on his stool after the 2nd because he hurt his hand punching cruzs face. cruz has one ko over a asian, and his last ko was way back in 2008 in fc combat, bowles doesn't count as a ko becuase he injuries himself of his own doing, this fight could happen 100 times over and cruz would never ko dilashaw and he would never win a dec against dillashaw, not only has dilashaw never been taken down in the ufc, but he lands for more punches then cruz does, how will cruz outstrike dilashaw, HOW, on what planet does this make sense? dillashaw's gas tank is unlimited, cruz is in a big disadvantage here as well. this wil be the easiest money you have ever lost, easier then when you bet barao against dillashaw and i told you then that would be the easiest money you barao bettors would ever lose, we'll this is a far easier fight than that one....eventually you will stop being stubborn and betting against me, and start winning some money, my wish that you woud do that with this fight, but if not, so be it.Comment -
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Cote/Saunders starts rounds 3 -147 Risking $600 (cote has been leaning more on his wrestling and I believe that's what he will focus on for the majority of this contest, going off of interviews, he seems to believe he can pass saunders guard, he will spend the majority of this fight inside saunders guard as he can take saunders down at will and that is a clear path to victory for him, as if its stays standing killa bee will kill him with knees and outstrike him to win a dec, though killa bee doesn't have the power to ko cote, he would outstrike him standing,saunders is slick on the ground but i dont see him subbing cote as cote hasnt been subbed since 2010, dec is the most likely outcome and who wins will depend on how long saunders can keep it standing or how long saunders stays under cote. theres one risk to this working out, is cote has power and could get a ko, but i see the majority of the fight being on the ground, so i dont see enough risk in the cote ko to warrent a hedge bet here, but if you want extra insurence on this play cote by ko is at +330, so its servicable if you decide to hedge)
Cote/Saunders goes to 3 round dec -110 Risking $300
Dillashaw wins in Round 1 +850 Risking $100 (cruz has terrible striking defense, see a KO early, worth a fraction of a unit.)
Herman +200 Risking $100 (this is based on his opp looking like a fat slob at weigh-ins, herman being rededicated, i think its a coin flip fight, herman is the better striker, also has more submission wins if tim trys to take it to the ground, tim has power advantage and wrestling advantage but i got herman a little better then him where every the fight goes, so i'll take the underdog for a fraction of a unit in what i see at a even money fight.)Comment -
Eddie Alvarez did looked jacked at weigh ins.... Got me a little nervous and got me thinking hedge..
I'm on Pettis with a few parlays big, and a few props also...
I think if the fight goes the distance it's gonna be Pettis by decision. He should be able to out work and out point Eddie... Don't think Eddie can sub out Pettis either.. So I'm thinking the only pathway to victory for Eddie in this fight is by KO..
Something to consider anyways fellas if you're already on Pettis.. Small price to pay to cover your asss's. Solid hedge I believe at these current odds and thought to share..
1129 Alvarez wins by TKO/KO <input id="radiox" value="M1_44" name="radiox" type="radio">+1315
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might be worth it, those are huge odds and i dont see alverez as far off striking as most people, so its possible he could ko petis, i bet the distance personally becuase i believe alverez will be able to mix in his striking with takedowns, and i dont buy that pettis wrestling will be that improved, and becuase pettis took a lot of punishment from rda in a 5 rounder and has never been stopped in a fight by sub or ko.Comment -
Those are massive odds on that KO prop.. 5dimes.. It opened at +800 and shot up +1300 now.. That's why I posted it up...
Eddie is a striking based fighter and not wrestling based fighter Josh.. I don't see Eddie taking down and or controlling Pettis on the ground much if at all in this fight. Eddie is not a Clay Guida type fighter in other words... Showtime Pettis is also a damn good fighter when he doesn't have to worry about being taken down and or sub'd out like he did against RDA in his last fight, or like in his other loss to Clay Guida..
I actually think Pettis finishes Eddie in this fight. He's coming off a very disheartening loss to the current champ RDA. He's gonna rebound well in this fight..
I really don't think Eddie can KO Pettis either but those prop odds are out of control at +1300... Reason being- I figure if Pettis can just go 5 rounds with the champ RDA and not get Knocked out I doubt Eddie can do much better..
Still that Eddie KO prop is a good hedge anyways for Pettis bettors I believe.... Eddie looked in great shape and does have some pop in his punches...Comment -
“I’ve been a champion before and I lost my title; I know my mentality going into the next fight,” Alvarez said. “I think he’s going to bring his Sunday’s best. I don’t think that’ll be good enough. I don’t think that’s going to do. Regardless of what he’s trying to get back or this being his comeback, I feel like none of it is going to go well for him. I’m too prepared, I’m too ready for this fight.”
One of the key factors in dos Anjos’ victory over Pettis was his ability to mix up his offensive attacks. Alvarez owns a different skillset but said he shares a similar trait in that he can control whether the fight takes place in striking range on the ground where grappling comes into play. That type of strategy has caused fits for Pettis throughout his career, and Alvarez said it will be more of the same at UFC Fight Night 81.
“If I want this fight to stay on the feet, it’ll stay on the feet,” Alvarez said. “If I want it to go on the ground, it will go on the ground. The fact remains that I’ll dictate where this fight will go and more than likely I’ll dictate when this fight ends.”
Declaring that he’ll have control of when the fight stops is a bold statement, but Alvarez said such confidence is a product of his preparation. With all but one of Pettis’ UFC victories coming by stoppage, Alvarez said he’s aware he’s going to enter the octagon with one of the most dangerous fighters in the sport.
Pettis can turn any fight into a highlight-reel moment with one strike, but Alvarez said he’s going crush his opponent with a pace that prevents any opportunity to land a crushing fight-ending blow.
“It’s about finding avenues of victory, but I just always feel like the kind of pace I put on people, whether they look good or feel good the first round, maybe the beginning of the second round – eventually I feel them quitting,” Alvarez said. “And when that happens I smell blood and I’ll finish. That’s how I feel and how my training is going and I think that’s what you’re going to see next Sunday, is a fight where eventually I’ll start stealing the spirit of my opponent and it will die down. When it does I’ll become energized.”Comment -
Sure sounds like eddie knows he can't stand with pettis for 3 rounds, and he knows he needs to pressure him and work in takedowns...doesn't matter what eddie's base is jibby, striking or wrestling, this is a diffrent match-up and he knows he needs to mix in takedowns to win, and he is the better wrestler, and he will do what this match-up calls for to win, he will takedown pettis, and he will cash my ticket of +500 by dec, and I will be a very happy man...Comment -
neither guy is finishing the other, like i told you weeks ago, pettis has never been finished, and alverez only has one ko lose way back in 2007, he's had 20 fights since then, his striking has improved to the point since that time, that pettis wont ko him, becuase he knows pettis needs guys to show respect to his striking and give him space to work, pettis has no lateral movment or striking defense, this favors forward pressure strikers similar to rda and alvarez, pettis's offense is his defense, alverez isnt afraid to get in close with him and fight him in a phone booth, and this favors alverez....alverez also only has 2 sub loses in 30 pro fights, in 2011 and 2008, but these were by heel hook and rear naked choke, i don't see pettis getting his back, pettis has 8 subs but none of his subs are by heel hook or rear naked choke, i've never even seen him in posistion to do either of these submissions, 3 of pettis subs were in lower organizations, one by injury(not sure of the injury) and the other two were tap out to strikes, so he only has 5 legit subs, 3 triangle chokes, 1 gullitione, and 1 arm bar, eddie alverez has more experience then pettis, more fights, he wont get caught in a sub, the guy that got the rear naked choke, again which i doubt pettis every gets alvarezs back, he has 50 percent of his victorys by sub, aoki caught him with the heel hook, and aoki has 25 of his 39 victorys by sub 64%, pettis isnt nearly as good as either guy in grappling. outside of some homerun head kick, there is no way pettis finishes avarez, and theres no way alverez finishes pettis, alvarez will implent a pressure attack and fight pettis in a phone booth and not allow him any breathing room, mix in takedowns and win a dec which was at amazing value at +500, and is still at amazing value at its current odds, there is no value in pettis at the current odds which have him way overvalued in this here match-up of styles, its based on pettis name and being more well known to the casual fan and gambler alike, and what action the will be recieved, peoples perception not reality, this line isnt based on skill set or match-up or reality. I see people that usually seem like they know what they are doing, betting on pettis at these odds, and i just shake my head in shame for them, this fight will be yet another example of why i'm the best at this, and everyone else is simply pretenders. #YouWantThatRealShitLast edited by JoshKnows46; 01-17-16, 05:39 AM.Comment -
travis browne gonna get a sub to redeem ronda's honor at +600, i can feel it deep down in my nuts. #meatheadWithTheQuickTap (Browne sub at +600 is rather stupid of the oddsmakers, anyone else agree?, lines makers getting rather lazy, i'm gonna murder this card, this is the most probable outcome.)
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While alvarez may win by pressuring pettis, i do not consider him being a pressure fighter. Take a look at his fight with Cerrone. He tried to go out of hes way as an out fighter and pressure Cerrone. It worked for one round, and then he was stuck on the outside as usual eatig punches and kicks. This is the reason for people picking pettis in the first place because of alvarez lack of pressure. He finds himself often outside and at midrange and then he gets hit. Against pettis which is fairly sound i will say at those ranges that smells trouble. If Alvarez is able to pressure pettis then het has a good shot. Hes trainers were screaming in two rounds PRESSURE, PRESSURE him, but alvares simply couldnt. Also you saw this often in the gilbert melendes fight, he found himself in those ranges pettis thrive in. And when he was hit in the first round of that fight he was just standing in front of melendes getting hit again and again.But Pettis lateral movement isnt very good, so its def possible he will find himself struck against the cage , and if alvarez go for it, he can win this. Alvarez doesnt have the pressure of RDA and im not sure he cant eat what RDA took to get inside Pettis. Again, melendes was able in one and half round to pressure pettis up against the cage so its def a habit of pettis. He needs to circle and he often doesnt do this. He has traveled for the first time out of his camp to learn wresting more in debth, maybe he is able to adjust.Comment -
I just saw this trash talking on TV between Cruz and Dillashaw.
Here's a video of it:
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The skinny around here is that the boys are throwing (big) money with Eddie which means he is healthy and injury free. I like Pettis in the fight but not at these odds. Who knows if Pettis is healthy. I do know Eddie is. Three round fight anything can happen.Comment -
Well, my largest bets are on Cruz, Pettis, Cote, and Felder.. I really need 3 of those 4 to hit down the stretch and I'll be sitting fat.. Most importantly Cruz delivering is a must, I think I got this
For this not being a PPV event it's still a decent card. Even with all the drop outs and injuries this card still stuck together..
It's got all of us gambling on it anyways..
Let's go Carolina Panthers on a side note.. That game starts now.. Fig Newton time!!!
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All this talk about what a great fight the Dillishaw/Cruz fight is gonna be reminds me when they say a Mayweather fight is gonna be great. If u like watching Cruz run around all night while TJ chases him u will love this. Prolly love dancing with the stars also.Comment -
all that bouncin around will drive ya crazy. He is actually fighting a guy with nice hands this time which means extra bouncing.Comment -
We didn't discuss this fight - I got Wade by decision -110 and hedged Baghdad ITD at +558... I'm watching football and don't have time to explain in depth.. Most likely pathway to victory for both fighters are those props..
In a nut shell - Wade will grind out a win most likely as he's a decision machine, no KO threat.. Oh and the French man Baghdad has a 80% finishing rate in all his pro fights or he loses by KO or decision.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Mehdi-Baghdad-41993
Chris
Wade
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Mehdi
Baghdad
"The Sultan"
USA
Country
FRANCE
10-1-0
Record
11-2-0
0%
KO/TKO
73%
30%
SUB
27%
70%
DEC
0%
70 in
Height
73 in
155 lbs
Weight
155 lbs
70 in
Reach
75 in
40 in
Leg Reach
40 in
Significant Strikes
2.53
Landed per minute
000
64.23%
Accuracy
000%
1.79
Absorbed P/M
000
57.89%
Defense
000%
Grappling
4.33
Takedown Average
000
52.94%
Takedown Accuracy
000%
100%
Takedowns Defended
000%
0.48
Submission Average
000
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Let's have a good night fellas. Usually complain about fights on a Sunday buts it's my birthday so maybe luck will be on my sideComment -
Thanks josh, 34 years young todayComment -
Confused as to how Elvis Mutapcic is a favorite over Francimar Barroso. Mutapcic fights at 185, has been fighting lower level competition and is taking the fight on short notice. Barroso might have an advantage being a natural 205'er. Luke Sanders could be another one. Luke is a natural 135'er moving up on late notice to fight Maximo Blanco at 145.
Unless Barroso is fighting injured, it'll be very interesting to see how things pan out.
As far as I know, they don't do much grappling, wrestling or submisssion training at Glendale Fight Club under Edmond Tarverdyan. That could also be the reason Jake Ellenberger got subbed so easily by Kelvin Gastelum when he was training there. If Browne wins via sub, it won't be because his sub skills are sharp. It would be more of a lucky break.Comment -
Happy slappy Bel..
How old are ya pal? I just saw 34.. Good age...Comment
