UFC Fight Night: Dillashaw vs. Cruz (January 17, 2016)

**Killer_Demo** · 01-03-16, 12:44 AM

Boestch and browne. Meathead will get starched

**GoBlue77** · 01-03-16, 01:19 AM

i'll take a motivated pettis here in a parlay for sure.

**JoshKnows46** · 01-03-16, 03:57 AM

dillashaw and alvarez

meatball/browne fight is a toss up, no value, line is set correctly. either guy can get ko'd, both have low fighter IQ's, both will probable try to keep it standing.

**TPowell** · 01-03-16, 02:29 PM

With you on Alvarez. He should get right in Pettis face which means he won't be able to use those crazy kicks

**Suggartown** · 01-03-16, 04:08 PM

I don't know I like Pettis here, but what do I know. I got smoked last night on Condit and Noke (even though both should have been wins) I guess if you let something go to the decision you are screwed.

**bjpenn85** · 01-03-16, 05:06 PM

Value on Alvarez. He is more well rounded and more complete, but bad chin. Pettis probably is eager to come back from the Dos Anjos loss as well. Im not sure if Alvarez can finish Pettis if Dos Anjos cant, so maybe alvarez SU and small bet on dec prop.

**JIBBBY** · 01-03-16, 05:15 PM

I'm gonna hit Cruz now at +120. That line probably moves closer to even the longer ya wait..

$250.00

$300.00

Pending

1/17/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1001 Dominick Cruz +120* <small>vs</small> T.J. Dillashaw

**bjpenn85** · 01-03-16, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I'm gonna hit Cruz now at +120. That line probably moves closer to even the longer ya wait..

$250.00

$300.00

Pending

1/17/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1001 Dominick Cruz +120* <small>vs</small> T.J. Dillashaw

Cant see this fight end, probably goes to decision, i mean is it realisict that Dominick Cruz beats Dillashaw by TKO or sub? So The decisioner Cruz by dec and if a finish happening, its likely going to Dillashaw IMO. But havent broken this fight down yet. Insufficient data on Cruz makes this matchup hard to cap. But Cruz is way smarter than Dillashaw as a person, as an intellectual being, and that fakken counts for what its worts...

Fading people with low iq/ fight iq may be another thing to look out for in 2016. We already started yesterday with the bjj genious T-CITY!!!!

BTW, did you see that chin on T-CITY ? Jesus christ, thats a fresh and young chin. Not even blinking, not even acknowledging the effort of Brandaos wild hooks hitting 100% clean on the jaw. let me just take you down and submit you in 5 sec, byeeee

**JIBBBY** · 01-03-16, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Cant see this fight end, probably goes to decision, i mean is it realisict that Dominick Cruz beats Dillashaw by TKO or sub? So The decisioner Cruz by dec and if a finish happening, its likely going to Dillashaw IMO.

Well here we go then with the Maj/split dec props if ya think the fight goes the distance.. Can usually count on one judge being a blind idiot these days especially when it's for a title belt, lol..

Sun 1/17	1043 Cruz wins by 5 round unanimous dec	<input id="radiox" value="M1_20" name="radiox" type="radio">+353
11:00PM	1044 Any other result	<input id="radiox" value="M2_20" name="radiox" type="radio">-533
Sun 1/17	1045 Cruz wins by 5 round split/maj dec	<input id="radiox" value="M1_21" name="radiox" type="radio">+877
11:00PM	1046 Any other result	<input id="radiox" value="M2_21" name="radiox" type="radio">-1793
Sun 1/17	1047 Dillashaw wins by 5 round unanimous dec	<input id="radiox" value="M1_22" name="radiox" type="radio">+245
11:00PM	1048 Any other result	<input id="radiox" value="M2_22" name="radiox" type="radio">-335
Sun 1/17	1049 Dillashaw wins by 5 round split/maj dec	<input id="radiox" value="M1_23" name="radiox" type="radio">+674
11:00PM	1050 Any other result	<input id="radiox" value="M2_23" name="radiox" type="radio">-1420

1007 Cruz wins by 5 round decision

<input id="radiox" value="M1_2" name="radiox" type="radio">+255

1011 Dillashaw wins by 5 round decision

<input id="radiox" value="M1_4" name="radiox" type="radio">+169

**JoshKnows46** · 01-03-16, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I'm gonna hit Cruz now at +120. That line probably moves closer to even the longer ya wait..

$250.00

$300.00

Pending

1/17/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1001 Dominick Cruz +120* <small>vs</small> T.J. Dillashaw

no way it moves closer to even, its gonna get much better than that, u bet a bad line, i jumped on Tj early to get the best line at -140, that lines going nothing but up, as it should, its way off, easy fight for TJ.

**JoshKnows46** · 01-03-16, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Value on Alvarez. He is more well rounded and more complete, but bad chin. Pettis probably is eager to come back from the Dos Anjos loss as well. Im not sure if Alvarez can finish Pettis if Dos Anjos cant, so maybe alvarez SU and small bet on dec prop.

only bet to make is alveraz by dec at +500, i woudn't even worry about playing him Straight up....he takes it by dec.

**JIBBBY** · 01-03-16, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

no way it moves closer to even, its gonna get much better than that, i jumped on Tj early to get the best line at -140, that lines going nothing but up, as it should, its way off.

Why so confident in TJ Dill Joshua Tree? Because of his wrestling advantage and that TJ is the current UFC champ maybe? Only advantages I see going in..

D Cruz has twice as many pro fights as the champ TJ Dill.. D Cruz was the champ before the injuries and never lost the belt... He's 21-1 and only lost one fight years ago...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dominick-Cruz-12107

All in on D Cruz myself... He's taller and moves better.. Should win rounds on points with his in and out striking if anything else.. He kinda reminds my of Carlos Condit a bit which may not be a good thing though.. Lol

D Cruz has proven to be a monster coming off a long lay off.. TJ Dil changed camps and is all over the place these days.. His training could be suffering... IDK bud?

1037 Cruz wins by TKO/KO

<input id="radiox" value="M1_17" name="radiox" type="radio">+525

**JIBBBY** · 01-03-16, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by Killer_Demo

Boestch and browne. Meathead will get starched

Why does this Tim Boestch vs Ed Herman fight make me think we will be watching Bellator for some reason? Recyclable Cans.... both of them...

**Killer_Demo** · 01-03-16, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Why does this Tim Boestch vs Ed Herman fight make me think we will be watching Bellator for some reason? Recyclable Cans.... both of them...

Can on can violence

**mirinquads** · 01-03-16, 08:40 PM

Cruz wins easily, he's the better striker with better reach, smarter, already dominated TJ mentally. TJ's striking looks so impressive because he's been in against bad strikers he can bamboozle with his stance switching, jumping in and out, throwing several rearhand strikes etc etc. Cruz is the god father of that style, and knows exactly what to do to counter it all.

**JIBBBY** · 01-03-16, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Cruz wins easily, he's the better striker with better reach, smarter, already dominated TJ mentally. TJ's striking looks so impressive because he's been in against bad strikers he can bamboozle with his stance switching, jumping in and out, throwing several rearhand strikes etc etc. Cruz is the god father of that style, and knows exactly what to do to counter it all.

Agreed Miri... Well said..

You can also play the business conspiracy angle.. Gotta think who is more marketable in the UFC as champ, TJ Dill or D Cruz? D Cruz is a media darling and hosted the UFC shows.. The comeback kid..

**KalouKalou** · 01-03-16, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Agreed Miri... Well said..

You can also play the business conspiracy angle.. Gotta think who is more marketable in the UFC as champ, TJ Dill or D Cruz? D Cruz is a media darling and hosted the UFC shows.. The comeback kid..

It's sad to think this way but I have to agree.

**JIBBBY** · 01-03-16, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by KalouKalou

It's sad to think this way but I have to agree.

I don't think this way unless it goes to the judges cards... I was just joking in my above post.

I still think it's just a fight and these guys come out swinging and try really hard to finish and win especially when it's for the belt.. They went thru the training camps and are top level professionals.... I don't think fights are fixed, but I do question the judging though....

We just saw how hard Lawler and Condit fought, both were trying to win.. That was not fixed..

**TPowell** · 01-04-16, 11:04 AM

Interested what the Rosa line comes out at. He was robbed in Mexico at UFC 188 of a fight he won 29-28 and I think he should be able to take care of business against Hettes, whose most impressive win was a quick sub win over a solid European guy that has no BJJ

**Kermit** · 01-04-16, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

dillashaw and alvarez

meatball/browne fight is a toss up, no value, line is set correctly. either guy can get ko'd, both have low fighter IQ's, both will probable try to keep it standing.

I like Eddie at those odds too. I knew he would be a dog, but didn't think he would be that big of a dog.

**JIBBBY** · 01-04-16, 12:51 PM

Showtime Pettis probably out works him, might even knock out or submit Eddie Alvarez.. Odds are fat for Eddie but I just don't think he has the tools or is simply good enough to beat AP.. GL guys, I can't pull the trigger on Eddie straight...

Pettis has some wicked kicks and can submit ya as well.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Anthony-Pettis-26627

1109 Pettis wins inside distance

<input id="editx" name="M1_32" size="4"> +125

Cowboy hello liver kick

Joe Lauzon hello head kick

Gilbert Melendes hello choke out

**UncleChael** · 01-04-16, 02:32 PM

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**Sanity Check** · 01-04-16, 04:31 PM

Travis wins easy if he can lock a sub on Meathead's neck. Mitrione has never not tapped to a sub. But if Travis Browne is still being trained by Ronda Rousey's head coach, it'll be very tempting not to pull for Meathead. Ronda's coach doesn't seem to know how to train basic things like defense and footwork. The way he does his pad training makes it seem like he knows absolutely nothing in terms of training fighters & doesn't belong in the big leagues.

**JIBBBY** · 01-04-16, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

Travis wins easy if he can lock a sub on Meathead's neck. Mitrione has never not tapped to a sub. But if Travis Browne is still being trained by Ronda Rousey's head coach, it'll be very tempting not to pull for Meathead. Ronda's coach doesn't seem to know how to train basic things like defense and footwork. The way he does his pad training makes it seem like he knows absolutely nothing in terms of training fighters & doesn't belong in the big leagues.

<small>UFC Fight Night 81 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - TD Garden - Boston, Massachusetts - FS1</small>
Sun 1/17	1201 Matt Mitrione	<input id="editx" name="M1_2" size="4"> +145	<input id="editx" name="L1_2" size="4"> o1½ +140
11:00PM	1202 Travis Browne	<input id="editx" name="M2_2" size="4"> -165	<input id="editx" name="L2_2" size="4"> u1½ -160

I'm kinda on the fence still.... TB looked like crap against AA in his last fight though.. Arlovski dropped him like a bad habit.. If he stands and trades with meat head it's anybodies fight...

He did beat the smack out of Derrick Lewis standing....http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Matt-Mitrione-49519

**TPowell** · 01-05-16, 12:28 AM

Lot of love for Cruz here. I think you guys are underestimating Dillashaw is still improving, doubt you can say the same for Cruz. TJ is incredibly well balanced between his striking and wrestling plus he has a ton of pop in his hands.

**getlucky2win** · 01-05-16, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Cruz wins easily, he's the better striker with better reach, smarter, already dominated TJ mentally. TJ's striking looks so impressive because he's been in against bad strikers he can bamboozle with his stance switching, jumping in and out, throwing several rearhand strikes etc etc. Cruz is the god father of that style, and knows exactly what to do to counter it all.

idk bout cruz winnin ez. for 1 i dont see the pillow fisted dancer finishing tj. yeah i know he finished his last fight, but this will probly b a dance contest. and cruz used to b the best dancer but has been away so long. he was the better striker but not so sure now. tj mixes in his wrestling well and could coral cruz.
i dnt thnk tj is dominated mentally. but i agree he was matched up vs competition that suits his style in barao.

nothin big for me yet. some small props. still watchin tape on ths 1. u see anything specific? or just think cruz is much better all around?

**PaperTrail07** · 01-05-16, 12:32 PM

A Healthy Cruz at + $$ LOL.....gimme a break...Easy money right there...better in ever area..

**PaperTrail07** · 01-05-16, 12:33 PM

Cruz brings 1/2 the skills he had before he will moonwalk away with the belt...he wont even get hit lol..

**mirinquads** · 01-05-16, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by getlucky2win

idk bout cruz winnin ez. for 1 i dont see the pillow fisted dancer finishing tj. yeah i know he finished his last fight, but this will probly b a dance contest. and cruz used to b the best dancer but has been away so long. he was the better striker but not so sure now. tj mixes in his wrestling well and could coral cruz.
i dnt thnk tj is dominated mentally. but i agree he was matched up vs competition that suits his style in barao.

nothin big for me yet. some small props. still watchin tape on ths 1. u see anything specific? or just think cruz is much better all around?

Like I said, TJ's is a taught striker. He does what he's told, and it works well against shitty standard Muay Thai strikers. Joe Soto was outstriking Tj as points in their fight. He'd have never laid a glove on Cruz. I do believe Cruz footwork is much superior, his command of range and positioning in the cage is otherwordly. Sometimes when he changes direction in the middle of a flurry and lands a headkick on you from the other side.
If just Cruz had KO'ed his opponents, people would have been sucking him off from the start, but because he doesn't he's "boring". Go back and watch his old fights, you will see what TJ is doing, and then much more. Never been so pissed as when they cancelled the Barao fight. +275 on Cruz and he would have humiliated Barao. Was ready to load 10 units on that shit.

Cruz might get injured again though, because when one knee goes, it's hard to achieve equilibrium again, but not before he wins this fight I believe. But wait, the line will likely climb back up.

**JIBBBY** · 01-05-16, 12:47 PM

Why is Ross Pearson favored over Fransisco Trinaldo?

<small>UFC Fight Night 81 - Lightweight 3 rounds - TD Garden - Boston, Massachusetts - FS1</small>
Sun 1/17	1301 Francisco Trinaldo	<input id="editx" name="M1_3" size="4"> +145	<input id="editx" name="L1_3" size="4"> o2½ -170
10:30PM	1302 Ross Pearson	<input id="editx" name="M2_3" size="4"> -185	<input id="editx" name="L2_3" size="4"> u2½ +130

Trinaldo has won 4 in a row now, he's tough as nails and almost impossible to knock out.. He typically wins fights that go to decision as well.. He got out worked by Michael Cheisa in his last loss 2 years ago.. Cheisa is a grinder though unlike Ross Pearson..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Francisco-Trinaldo-31103

Ross Pearson likes to stand and bully ya.. Trinaldo should have an answer for that Ross Pearson style.. Ross just 3-3 in his last 6 fights is nothing more then a tough journeyman at his point IMO.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ross-Pearson-11884

I'm thinking maybe Trinaldo wins by decision, maybe even by maj/split... NO PROPS out yet for this fight... I just hit the straight for now..

Pending1/17/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1301 Francisco Trinaldo +145* <small>vs</small> Ross Pearson

Trinaldo's last fight beat down of Chad Leprise

**JIBBBY** · 01-05-16, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

Lot of love for Cruz here. I think you guys are underestimating Dillashaw is still improving, doubt you can say the same for Cruz. TJ is incredibly well balanced between his striking and wrestling plus he has a ton of pop in his hands.

Cruz should be the clear favorite here.. TJ is a solid fighter but I don't think he is solid enough to beat the real champ in D Cruz.. TJ left his successful training camp that got him the belt and I believe his training is suffering now in Colorado.... Yet to be proven or seen yet.. I have a hunch..

A 3 month old article but legit facts... http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/6...am-in-colorado

**TPowell** · 01-05-16, 03:41 PM

Elevation Fight Team isn't a bunch of nobodies

**TPowell** · 01-05-16, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Why is Ross Pearson favored over Fransisco Trinaldo?

<small>UFC Fight Night 81 - Lightweight 3 rounds - TD Garden - Boston, Massachusetts - FS1</small>
Sun 1/17	1301 Francisco Trinaldo	<input id="editx" name="M1_3" size="4"> +145	<input id="editx" name="L1_3" size="4"> o2½ -170
10:30PM	1302 Ross Pearson	<input id="editx" name="M2_3" size="4"> -185	<input id="editx" name="L2_3" size="4"> u2½ +130

Trinaldo has won 4 in a row now, he's tough as nails and almost impossible to knock out.. He typically wins fights that go to decision as well.. He got out worked by Michael Cheisa in his last loss 2 years ago.. Cheisa is a grinder though unlike Ross Pearson..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Francisco-Trinaldo-31103

Ross Pearson likes to stand and bully ya.. Trinaldo should have an answer for that Ross Pearson style.. Ross just 3-3 in his last 6 fights is nothing more then a tough journeyman at his point IMO.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ross-Pearson-11884

I'm thinking maybe Trinaldo wins by decision, maybe even by maj/split... NO PROPS out yet for this fight... I just hit the straight for now..

Pending1/17/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1301 Francisco Trinaldo +145* <small>vs</small> Ross Pearson

Trinaldo's last fight beat down of Chad Leprise

I was curious about this too. Under 2.5 looks like it could be good too. This fight will def be standing and with the talent they both have striking, somebody should go to sleep.

**TPowell** · 01-05-16, 04:04 PM

Looks like one of the guys my friend graduated with is making his UFC debut on this card! Luke is a pretty solid wrestler but his striking is still developing. Only bad news is he's been fighting at bantamweight and has to step up to FW for this one