UFC Fight Night: Dillashaw vs. Cruz (January 17, 2016)

[mirinquads]

Thanks for teaching me this mysterious 'hedge', Senpai-Seinfeld

[opinionator]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO9M90fdZDA

[TPowell]

Can on can violence has got me thinking????

<small>UFC Fight Night 81 - Middleweight 3 rounds - TD Garden - Boston, Massachusetts - FS1</small>
Sun 1/17		1801 Ed Herman		<input id="radiox" value="M1_7" name="radiox" type="radio">+190	<input id="radiox" value="L1_7" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -115
8:00PM		1802 Tim Boetsch		<input id="radiox" value="M2_7" name="radiox" type="radio">-230	<input id="radiox" value="L2_7" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ -105

I remember Ed Herman always coming into fights in shape, he's a tough guy that always brings it.. He's very hard to knock out as well.. Derrick Brunson dropped him in his last fight but Brunson is Jackson/Wink trained brute of a fighter.. Derrick Brunson just dropped Sam Alvey which is hard to do so I give that loss a pass for Short Fuse Herman.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ed-Herman-6561

Now you gotta think does Tim Boetsch really have enough to beat short fuse? Maybe, but I don't think so.. He's lost 5 of his last 7 fights and got dropped in a couple of them.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tim-Boetsch-19544

Final thoughts on both cans, it should be a slug fest but Ed Short Fuse might be the tougher guy and might edge out Tim in the cardio department as well.. I certainly don't think this fight goes the distance for starters..

Anyways at +190 I'm giving short fuse Ed Herman a legit shot in this match up.. In on the can Short Fuse for the straight win...

$180.00

$342.00

Pending

1/17/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1801 Ed Herman +190* <small>vs</small> Tim Boetsch

Will hedge a bit though with the Barbarian by KO for insurance.. Tim ain't gonna sub out Ed or beat him by decision one would think

$100.00

$225.00

Pending

1/17/16 8:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1833 Boetsch wins by TKO/KO +225* <small>vs</small> Any other result

Are we learning how to effectively hedge bet for profit yet people?

I meant to mention this. Was listening to an interview with Ed Herman and he seemed to be in a much better place now. Talked about how he had constantly been dreading the weight cut and it had really hurt his training and how he had moved back to the Pacific Northwest and sold his gym. Sounded like a man with an entirely different outlook now. I take it as a positive, but you never know. Herman is nearly at the year mark since his last fight which is worrisome, but I think the move to 205 is a good thing at age 35. Herman should be the fresher and longer fighter

[JIBBBY]

^^^Lulz at the hedging posts. Funny guys.. Bastards!!! Serious bidness is dis gamballling stuff and there is no try there is only do!!!!

[JIBBBY]

I meant to mention this. Was listening to an interview with Ed Herman and he seemed to be in a much better place now. Talked about how he had constantly been dreading the weight cut and it had really hurt his training and how he had moved back to the Pacific Northwest and sold his gym. Sounded like a man with an entirely different outlook now. I take it as a positive, but you never know. Herman is nearly at the year mark since his last fight which is worrisome, but I think the move to 205 is a good thing at age 35. Herman should be the fresher and longer fighter

Both these guys are 35 years oldish and both are badly in need for a spectacular win.. This tells me this fight goes under.. Probably doesn't get out of the 1st round... Both have KO power as well..

In on the under 2.5 for a benny at these odds...

$100.00

$95.20

Pending

1/17/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1801 Ed Herman/Tim Boetsch Under 2½ -105*

[Sanity Check]

I meant to mention this. Was listening to an interview with Ed Herman and he seemed to be in a much better place now. Talked about how he had constantly been dreading the weight cut and it had really hurt his training and how he had moved back to the Pacific Northwest and sold his gym. Sounded like a man with an entirely different outlook now. I take it as a positive, but you never know. Herman is nearly at the year mark since his last fight which is worrisome, but I think the move to 205 is a good thing at age 35. Herman should be the fresher and longer fighter

The thing about Ed Herman is, he's been fighting for a long time and doing a lot of things completely wrong for more than a decade. He'll have a hard time unlearning & overcoming all the bad habits he's accumulated over the years. He'd an old dog trying to learn new tricks to reinvent himself. It'll take a mean feat for him to pull that off.

[TPowell]

The thing about Ed Herman is, he's been fighting for a long time and doing a lot of things completely wrong for more than a decade. He'll have a hard time unlearning & overcoming all the bad habits he's accumulated over the years. He'd an old dog trying to learn new tricks to reinvent himself. It'll take a mean feat for him to pull that off.

True but there's something about a guy who sells off his gym and moves home mentally. I think he could be in a good place right now. He said he's trying to make the money to start a new gym at home in Washington. Always dangerous to try and guess what a guy is thinking in different situations, but I think Herman either wins or gets destroyed here. No middle ground

[PaperTrail07]

Cant use that old fight against him....it comes down to what Cruz shows up....IMO if he is healthy we will walk circles around dilla but its all about him being healthy...

Good luck with that Unc.. Stick to your initial gut..

D Cruz gonna win rounds on points and might even KO TJ.... Dom is the more active fighter and has more skills and technique standing.. Granite chin as well probably as he never gets hit, as where your Killashaw has been dropped like a sack of shiit against John Dodson....


Watch the Dillashaw footwork after he gets hit in this gif... Lol..


Another angle...

[PaperTrail07]

Dont forget the guys your showing dummy up cruiK are Top notch fighters with slick hands....Felder is a beast agree but his style does not maatch up well here....cruik is quick to get away and hit....if cruik plays his game hes ok---becomes felders fight he will be picked up off the floor lol...

[Ultimatemeatball]

True but there's something about a guy who sells off his gym and moves home mentally. I think he could be in a good place right now. He said he's trying to make the money to start a new gym at home in Washington. Always dangerous to try and guess what a guy is thinking in different situations, but I think Herman either wins or gets destroyed here. No middle ground

Reminds me of Mike Swick's situation a bit, and that didn't work out well.

[TPowell]

Dont forget the guys your showing dummy up cruiK are Top notch fighters with slick hands....Felder is a beast agree but his style does not maatch up well here....cruik is quick to get away and hit....if cruik plays his game hes ok---becomes felders fight he will be picked up off the floor lol...

I just can't see that happening. You don't want to stand and trade with Felder unless you're an elite striker

[UncleChael]

Submission choke win for Faber.. My bad... Not by decision... Got me there...

My memory gets foggy at times after almost 10 years please forgive. I should have double checked before posting... WEC days were a while back..

Thanks for the correction..

I thought you were a hardcore Jibbs..

[JIBBBY]

Thanks for teaching me this mysterious 'hedge', Senpai-Seinfeld

Miri are you aware that this is top secret information that I'm giving out lately with these prop bet hedge posts of mine? You should be taking notes.. I may have to kill everyone reading in now since you all know this highly sensitive material.. The sports book owners are now trembling in their boots...

It's a newly designed gambling formula and strategy for winning in MMA that I've recently discovered.. I've single handily raised the MMA gambling bar a few levels that only a select few dare to comprehend and understand.. Then there are even fewer that actually exercise these winning powers.....

Time to get rich biaatch!!!

[mirinquads]

[JIBBBY]

If some of you guys are doubting D Cruz's skills just watch this Might Mouse Johnson vs D Cruz fight.. We all know how good Demetrious Johnson is...

This is the fight in HD in the link below.. Domination over 5 rounds in every area... TJ Dill is in trouble...

http://forum.mmatd.com/f1-f38/update-dominick-cruz-vs-demetrious-johnson-t84489.html

[Unwritten Law]

Haven't checked the recent odds yet but I am also taking Dominick Cruz. It's crazy he's the underdog. I guess when you factor TJ as the current champion and Cruz's past injuries and layoffs, he's coming in as the dog, but I'll gladly take it! Cruz should dominate TJ from bell to bell and pending some BS officials it should go his way.

The Barao fights really made TJ look better than he really is and Cruz will expose him. TJ won't be able to outwrestle or outstrike Cruz. History has shown Cruz is able to go the distance as well. Looking at his past 5 fights, 4 went to the judges, winning them all in a 5 round fight.

On a side note, the NFL is looking juicy!! Props UFC was smart enough to put this event on a Sunday evening so they don't lose viewers from the NFL playoffs.

[mirinquads]

The real crime here is that the Barao / Cruz fight got pulled, as Cruz was +250. Was smashing that line, and he would have absolutely schooled Barao. Still pissed about that.

[JoshKnows46]

The real crime here is that the Barao / Cruz fight got pulled, as Cruz was +250. Was smashing that line, and he would have absolutely schooled Barao. Still pissed about that.

No one cares.

[mirinquads]

No one cares.

Why are you responding then? ; ) Still butthurt?

[JIBBBY]

The real crime here is that the Barao / Cruz fight got pulled, as Cruz was +250. Was smashing that line, and he would have absolutely schooled Barao. Still pissed about that.

I agree with the Barao first match up.. That would have been easy money.. I still think +125 against TJ will be easy money also..

This line is way off.. How can you have the former UFC champ in D Cruz that never lost a fight in the UFC with twice as many pro fights still not be favored? It's really an injustice to D Cruz.. I think he's pissed off about it and ready to put on a clinic... That's why he's talking so much to down TJ Dill in interviews.. Dude is on a mission.... Cash it!!!!

<small>UFC Fight Night 81 - Bantamweight 5 rounds - TD Garden - Boston, Massachusetts - FS1</small>
Sun 1/17		1001 Dominick Cruz		<input id="radiox" value="M1_0" name="radiox" type="radio">+125	<input id="radiox" value="L1_0" name="radiox" type="radio">o4½ -190
11:30PM		1002 T.J. Dillashaw		<input id="radiox" value="M2_0" name="radiox" type="radio">-145	<input id="radiox" value="L2_0" name="radiox" type="radio">u4½ +165

[JIBBBY]

THE EVENT WRITE UPS!!!

- Prelims part 1 - http://www.mmamania.com/2016/1/11/10...pt1-boston-mma

- Prelims part 2 - http://www.mmamania.com/2016/1/12/10...pt2-boston-mma

Combat press - http://combatpress.com/2016/01/toe-t...d-predictions/

Fansided - http://fansided.com/2016/01/12/ufc-f...w-predictions/

[JoshKnows46]

You dumbfuks betting on cruz are clueless..

[JIBBBY]

You dumbfuks betting on cruz are clueless..

I'll remember you said this Joshster.. Your boy is going down and there is nothing I can do to stop this now!!!! TJ Dill is polishing up that belt now to hand over to D Cruz..

AND NEW.....

[PaperTrail07]

why it will be all footwork by cruik....

I just can't see that happening. You don't want to stand and trade with Felder unless you're an elite striker

[JoshKnows46]

I'll remember you said this Joshster.. Your boy is going down and there is nothing I can do to stop this now!!!! TJ Dill is polishing up that belt now to hand over to D Cruz..

AND NEW.....

Smh hopeless..

[JIBBBY]

Smh hopeless..

Tell ya what -

Bet ya 60 bet points since that's all we can wager up.. If Cruz loses I'll give ya 100 bet points immediately just to round it off..

If TJ loses you have to give me 2 bet points each day for a month on any post of mine that you see daily.... (30 days)

Deal Josh?

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I'll also be happy to bet a 100 bet points even up odds with any of the SBR pro regulars looking in that are on TJ.. Just let me know?... I'm a man of my word and will always pay up...

[JoshKnows46]

Tell ya what -

Bet ya 60 bet points since that's all we can wager up.. If Cruz loses I'll give ya 100 bet points immediately just to round it off..

If TJ loses you have to give me 2 bet points each day for a month on any post of mine that you see daily.... (30 days)

Deal Josh?

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I also be happy to bet a 100 bet points even up odds with any of the SBR pro regulars looking in.. Just let me know?... I'm a man of my word and will always pay up...

Deal, easy points. Dillashaw will retire his ass, jibby. Cruz Will be knocked out cold.

[getlucky2win]

Im your huckleberry jibby. I will take Tyler jeffrey

[JIBBBY]

Im your huckleberry jibby. I will take Tyler jeffrey

You got it... 100 bet points even up it is.. I got Cruz...

Better odds then the SBR sportsbook.. All good as I don't care...

I'm gonna drop another 300 point wager with SBR now.. ALL IN ON CRUZ!!!

Ticket#:3069895 Jan 17 11:59 PM

Jan 13 04:40 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET [5153] DOMINICK CRUZ +125 (DOMINICK CRUZ vrs T.J. DILLASHAW)

300.00 / 375.00

[kmdubya]

Can on can violence has got me thinking????

<small>UFC Fight Night 81 - Middleweight 3 rounds - TD Garden - Boston, Massachusetts - FS1</small>
Sun 1/17		1801 Ed Herman		<input id="radiox" value="M1_7" name="radiox" type="radio">+190	<input id="radiox" value="L1_7" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -115
8:00PM		1802 Tim Boetsch		<input id="radiox" value="M2_7" name="radiox" type="radio">-230	<input id="radiox" value="L2_7" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ -105

I remember Ed Herman always coming into fights in shape, he's a tough guy that always brings it.. He's very hard to knock out as well.. Derrick Brunson dropped him in his last fight but Brunson is Jackson/Wink trained brute of a fighter.. Derrick Brunson just dropped Sam Alvey which is hard to do so I give that loss a pass for Short Fuse Herman.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ed-Herman-6561

Now you gotta think does Tim Boetsch really have enough to beat short fuse? Maybe, but I don't think so.. He's lost 5 of his last 7 fights and got dropped in a couple of them.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tim-Boetsch-19544

Final thoughts on both cans, it should be a slug fest but Ed Short Fuse might be the tougher guy and might edge out Tim in the cardio department as well.. I certainly don't think this fight goes the distance for starters..

Anyways at +190 I'm giving short fuse Ed Herman a legit shot in this match up.. In on the can Short Fuse for the straight win...

$180.00

$342.00

Pending

1/17/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1801 Ed Herman +190* <small>vs</small> Tim Boetsch

Will hedge a bit though with the Barbarian by KO for insurance.. Tim ain't gonna sub out Ed or beat him by decision one would think

$100.00

$225.00

Pending

1/17/16 8:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1833 Boetsch wins by TKO/KO +225* <small>vs</small> Any other result

Are we learning how to effectively hedge bet for profit yet people?

Are we talking about the same Boetsch? Dude only gets knocked out by Mac trucks or H-Bombs. Boetsch has that gorilla strength, so I can see him either winning by KO/TKO or grinding out a decision.

I really can't see how Short Fuse pulls this out. Even by sub requires Herman to be stronger in the grapple with Tim, and I just don't see that happening.

[JIBBBY]

Are we talking about the same Boetsch? Dude only gets knocked out by Mac trucks or H-Bombs. Boetsch has that gorilla strength, so I can see him either winning by KO/TKO or grinding out a decision.

I really can't see how Short Fuse pulls this out. Even by sub requires Herman to be stronger in the grapple with Tim, and I just don't see that happening.

Not the same Timmy Boetsch as he's been on the steady decline in recent years.. His record shows this.. Not sure why he is still employed by the UFC/Zuffa to be honest? He's lost his last 2 fights and 5 of his last 7.. That usually stamps the traveling ticket to Bellator..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tim-Boetsch-19544

If Short Fuse is focused, dialed in and brings it he could start to bust up Tim, wear him down and eventually stop him or even win by decision... I can also see Boetsch dropping the hammer and KO'ing short fuse standing and that's why I hedged.. Neither of these guys have great head movement standing so it probably ends in a KO one way or the other.. Outside chance Boetsch could go for the take downs and grapple fock Ed Herman and pound him out or possibly win by decision but I doubt it.. Tim likes to stand and bang or clinch up and dirty box.. Besides both fighters need a spectacular finish to stay relevant and employed probably.. If Timmy tries to grind out a boring decision win on the ground he probably gets fired by Dana White anyways..

I wouldn't count out short fuse, he's a tough guy and brings it himself.. Seems refocused...

Can on can violence coming up!!!

[JC2008]

Regardless of who wins the main event, you guys saying one side is easy money need to take into account the SHIT f ucking judging in MMA as of late. One guy may very well dominate and lose on the cards. We've all seen it numerous times.

[KingHawkins]

I am rolling with Rob Font at -220.

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/01/rob-font-hasnt-been-watching-netflix-and-eating-potato-chips-he-assures-you

[KingHawkins]

Oh, and Boetsch, he always has his lawn care business to fall back on. It is in a pretty shitty town, where honestly, more than a third of the residences may not even have a yard.
Here is the website, and I would be very willing to bet that the phone # listed is Tim's personal cell (570-850-1165 for a quote).

http://boetschslawncare.vpweb.com/

[kmdubya]

Not the same Timmy Boetsch as he's been on the steady decline in recent years.. His record shows this.. Not sure why he is still employed by the UFC/Zuffa to be honest? He's lost his last 2 fights and 5 of his last 7.. That usually stamps the traveling ticket to Bellator..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tim-Boetsch-19544

Only thing I would say about Tim's losses are that they were against some tough competition and studs. I think Herman is very underrated when he's focused. Just think Timmay is a bad match up for him. Think the odds are pretty fair where they are just because Tim does have ways to lose this fight. Cardio is much better a MW though. He seemed out of shape a lot at LW.