UFC 166: Velasquez Vs Dos Santos 3 (October 19, 2013)
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OracleAdamSBR Hustler
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#141Comment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
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#143If he's cut 20lbs in three days, days out from weigh-in, then yeah, he'll have a relatively simple time with the last 9lbs, unless he's dangerously off-schedule. I'd be more worried if he cut 9lbs in three days and was left with 20lbs to cut. That's assuming he cuts like 40 lbs to make 170 though.Comment -
DoYouNotGetITSBR Wise Guy
- 09-25-13
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#144Agreed Cain wins by forcing takedowns and not engaging in stand-up. Heavyweight division is the PED division (whole sport is on it, but any contender in the HW division is on PEDs). Back in the day there were no huge heavyweights like now. The biggest heavyweight was Ricco Rodriguez. The bigger heavyweights lost to Rodriguez or the rest of the LHW division (Couture, Coleman, and so on). Fedor wasn't even a big heavyweight and Ricco Rodriguez was bigger than Fedor (bigger not better).
UFC 166: Roy Nelson and Diego Sanchez only one will probably lose. At +450 and +550. $100 bet on both wins you 350, 450, or 1150. Bet Cain to win as a insurance policy if both those fighters lose. Sanchez is moving down in weight which just for that shouldn't be +550 and Roy Nelson is a crafty veteran therefore he knows every trick to beat a better fighter.
UFC 167: Rashad Evans is done with fighting. After his wife left him this guy crumbled. He was literally on that 24/7 for UFC and had no furniture in his house. I mean the house was empty and he wasn't planning on buying furniture. 2 out of the last 3 fights Evans has lost and if he fought Henderson 3 years ago he would have dominated him instead won by Split Decision. BET Chael Sonnan +125.
Take Josh Koscheck over Tyron Woodley. Koscheck is a NCAA champion wrestler while Woodley has gotten beat by wrestlers. Odds are not out yet.
UFC 168: For a lottery shot throw money at Miesha Tate +650. Women MMA Champions don't care about MMA and look for other things besides MMA. Ronda Rousey went Hollywood and is appearing in movies.
JUST ADDED MY WRITE UP FROM ANOTHER POST!Comment -
sideloadedSBR Hall of Famer
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#145Agreed Cain wins by forcing takedowns and not engaging in stand-up. Heavyweight division is the PED division (whole sport is on it, but any contender in the HW division is on PEDs). Back in the day there were no huge heavyweights like now. The biggest heavyweight was Ricco Rodriguez. The bigger heavyweights lost to Rodriguez or the rest of the LHW division (Couture, Coleman, and so on). Fedor wasn't even a big heavyweight and Ricco Rodriguez was bigger than Fedor (bigger not better).
UFC 166: Roy Nelson and Diego Sanchez only one will probably lose. At +450 and +550. $100 bet on both wins you 350, 450, or 1150. Bet Cain to win as a insurance policy if both those fighters lose. Sanchez is moving down in weight which just for that shouldn't be +550 and Roy Nelson is a crafty veteran therefore he knows every trick to beat a better fighter.
UFC 167: Rashad Evans is done with fighting. After his wife left him this guy crumbled. He was literally on that 24/7 for UFC and had no furniture in his house. I mean the house was empty and he wasn't planning on buying furniture. 2 out of the last 3 fights Evans has lost and if he fought Henderson 3 years ago he would have dominated him instead won by Split Decision. BET Chael Sonnan +125.
Take Josh Koscheck over Tyron Woodley. Koscheck is a NCAA champion wrestler while Woodley has gotten beat by wrestlers. Odds are not out yet.
UFC 168: For a lottery shot throw money at Miesha Tate +650. Women MMA Champions don't care about MMA and look for other things besides MMA. Ronda Rousey went Hollywood and is appearing in movies.
JUST ADDED MY WRITE UP FROM ANOTHER POST!Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#147Hardy was hardly an old guy, he was 29!Comment -
sideloadedSBR Hall of Famer
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#148eye really seems to be focusing on the fight
Jessica Eye @jessicaevileye 9h Good morning my awesome tweet friends.I am look for a locate limo service for about 15/20 people for Saturday night for my peeps in Houston
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ImsmarterthanuSBR MVP
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#149Cain already has the keys to beat JDS it's timing and pace, JDS doesn't like a really fast paced fight because he can't get his shots off in time, it's gonna be a lot of the same like the 2nd fight but JDS always has that one strike ko chance. Just from what you see this fight is like an evolved version of Fedor vs Cro CopComment -
OracleAdamSBR Hustler
- 09-28-13
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#150True, but it's just an example of an MMA fighter who everyone thought was good at one point, but then got down on his luck losing a lot of fights in a row, and made a comeback win. Some people thought Sotiropoulis was a title contender at one point. I don't think Nunes ever was.Comment -
DoYouNotGetITSBR Wise Guy
- 09-25-13
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#151Also forgot to add Roy Nelson is in the same boat as Jon Fitch. Dana White doesn't like him so his career and contract pay is on the line every fight.Last edited by DoYouNotGetIT; 10-17-13, 07:08 PM.Comment -
DoYouNotGetITSBR Wise Guy
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OracleAdamSBR Hustler
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#159I also don't think the UFC ever cuts fighters who won their last fight. Unless they break the rules (like holding onto a submission too long).Comment -
sideloadedSBR Hall of Famer
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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#164Zuffa has the right to terminate this contract if the fighter breaks any of the previous contract terms. But that's not the only thing that makes this document potentially null and void—you can also be fired for losing a fight.
So, all those UFC contracts that claim to be for eight or 10 fights? That's only true if you keep winning. Otherwise, the contract is only as long as the UFC wants it to be.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#165A contract also has a vague and subjective statement like this (so Dana can pretty much cut somebody whenever he likes if in his opinion they are not fighting to what he deems "the best of their ability"!):
ARTICLE XIII
REPRESENTATIONS AND WARRANTIES
Fighter represents and warrants to ZUFFA that:
a. Fighter shall prepare and honestly compete to the best of Fighter's ability in the
Bout and that there is no impairment to Fighter doing so;
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NoleafcloverSBR MVP
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#166Contracts often favor companies, shocker. About the fights doe...Comment -
Wanna Bet On It?SBR MVP
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#167Oracles are too busy predicting past events to read legalese. Oracles hire Pun for dat.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#168He cut Riddle and Mills after their fight just because it was so damn bad and both were awful! (regardless of Riddle testing positive for weed or whatever)Comment -
OracleAdamSBR Hustler
- 09-28-13
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#170Obviously fighters have to do their job if they are in a contract. If you have a contract with a corporation, and you take breaks all the time and don't do your job, you are in breach of the contract. Overall though, I think the UFC and Dana have done the right things regarding fighters and their contracts. But if you guys don't think so, it's all good!
Moving on, here are my picks for UFC 166 and why:
1. Jordan (-200) over Gonzaga: Risking 11 units to win 5.5.
Jordan wins inside distance (-120): Risking 1 unit to win .75.
Jordan wins in round 1 (+175): Risking 1 unit to win 1.75 units.
Jordan wins by submission (+3150): 1 unit to win 31.5 units.
Jordan is my favorite bet of the night. I think the line is underestimating Jordan. With his superior power, speed, and endurance over Gonzaga, he should run him over. I don't think Gonzaga is better than Jordan in any area, and won't be able to outmanuever him on the ground for a submission. This is also an example of a fighter who is relatively new to the game improving as he learns more and is more comfortable with it. Jordan is on his way up, with his last 2 wins (including a first round KO of Barry) while Gonzaga is aging, has been in the game a long time and is on his way down. Gonzaga hasn't ever beaten anyone good, with the exception of an aging Cro Cop. He lost a one sided affair with Schaub, who, similar to Jordan, was an NFL pro who turned to MMA and was inexperienced.
2. Kaufman (-210) over Eye: 5 units to win 2.5
I wasn't going to bet on this one because I like Jessica Eye, but after reading some comments on here and doing some research, I think it's a good bet on Kaufman. Eye didn't look so dominant in her last decision win. Kaufman has more experience than Eye, but is still young and hungry at 28. Eye had an impressive first round victory over Zoila, but that might make her look better than she is. Zoila hasn't beaten any really tough females in her career, even though she was the Bellator champion at one point.
3. Lombard (-160) over Marquardt: 2 units to win 1.7.
Lombard is moving down a weight class which could either be an advantage or a disadvantage, but is usually an advantage. Marquardt hasn't looked too good lately with his back to back losses while spending the whole fights standing up. The standup game is Lombard's bread and butter, so it's likely superior to Marquardt's. Unless Marquardt can continually take Lombard down (which isn't Marquardt's normal MO), Lombard should be able to outstrike him.
4. Melendez by 3 round decision (-160): 4 units to win 2.5.
-160 to win by decision is a much better line than the -800 on 5 Dimes for Melendez to just win. Both Sanchez and Melendez have the majority of their fights ending in decision. Melendez has finished fighters but only when he is much better than they are. I think Sanchez is good enough to hold his own against Melendez for 3 rounds without getting finished. From watching interviews, it seems like Sanchez has trained hard for this fight and is ready for a war.
5. Cormier by 3 round decision (-150): 2 units to win 1.3.
Cormier played it safe against Mir to grind out a decision, and I think he'll do the same against Big Country. 4 of Cormier's last 6 fights have gone to decision. As Cormier is losing weight to move to light heavyweight, he has to lose some muscle, which will make his striking not as hard. Nelson has a tough chin and has only been KOed once in 2008, and was able to go the distance with Dos Santos.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#171Jordan was in NFL!?
who has jordan beaten if gonzaga hasnt beaten anybody good?Comment -
mmaedSBR MVP
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#172Jordan is not better than gonzaga on the ground btw.Comment -
rosietopSBR High Roller
- 09-08-13
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#173here he goes again throwing a million units on a favorite. Dude what happens if he loses, your whole night (just like last week) is in the negative..Comment -
OracleAdamSBR Hustler
- 09-28-13
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OracleAdamSBR Hustler
- 09-28-13
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#175Ya I did throw a lot on Jordan. But I'm using the units as 1% system, so it would hurt but wouldn't be devasting to my BR if Jordan loses.Comment
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