UFC 166: Velasquez Vs Dos Santos 3 (October 19, 2013)

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Speaking of pure martial artists you should she this footage of Mizuki Inoue carving up the shootboxing scup 2013. But I really dont want the footage out there. I deleted all the mizuki stuff I put on youtube. She is going to be something special and many people are going to sleep on her.

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That's not what I see. She pretty much relies on her straight jab to win her fights. She rarely loads up and throws hooks unless her opponent comes at her too aggressively.

What did she do to McMann?

Eye knew for awhile now even admitting in interviews that she was going to 135, I guarantee you mcmann would not of trained with her if she knew she was coming to her division. mcManns coaches wouldnt want that either. But mcmanns agent put something together earilier this year for eye to come to south carolina to train.

I saw some bad technique in her fight with Damm and not the kicking because it was wet. Her punches were wide and loopy. Damm is pretty low level and was scoring at will with the low leg kicks. That fight should not of been close.

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kaufman down to -250 i capped it at -340, might be wrong here because of the mcmann thing clouding my judgment. we will see.

[MD]

kaufman down to -250 i capped it at -340, might be wrong here because of the mcmann thing clouding my judgment. we will see.

I think there's no value on either side at this point. May play Eye if it keeps climbing. Eye has just the right kind of game to outpoint Kaufman on the feet but I expect her aggression and volume to pick her up a pretty convincing win most of the time against someone as susceptible to being clinches as Eye.

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yeah i feel leslie smith is someone good to fight to get ready for eye Leslie is longer and throws more volume. If a striker is going to out point you its going to be leslie smith. Kaufman was over valued there. But still pulled it out. Im thinking eye will need a performance of a life time to win a decision. I dont see a finish coming for either fighter.

[hougigo]

Might play some.... not a lot of boxing interesting me

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https://ia601005.us.archive.org/3/items/SuckaRadioOc16/SuckaRadioOc16.mp3

interview with kaufman at the end. idiot dude still says mcmann is injured and kaufman has to correct him. MMA MEDIA what a joke!!!

[Thor4140]

Yeah, soda is the absolute worst thing on earth, IMO. Can't believe parents give it to their kids. I grew up on it, drank Coke instead of water my whole life, my parents were addicted to it, and passed it on to me. Don't recall drinking anything else when I was a child except at school. Kicking that habit was the best thing I ever did.

kicking Cola was the best thing u ever did? Wow really. There had to be something that topped that no?

[Thor4140]

No. I think that Aldo has the best takedown defence in MMA, but if you just got progressively bigger and bigger guys to try to take someone down, a lot of heavyweights would have him completely beat. Compared to the rest of his division, however, he's the best. Not many people think that Hendricks punches harder than Cain Velasquez, but I'm sure most would consider him one of the hardest punchers in MMA, while not considering Cain to be one. "P4P", son, "P4P".



Agreed. I gave it up and within a year my teeth had become noticeably brighter.

Do u think it will help brighten V's teeth? I would have asked Matt Riddle but i don't think he post here. BJ Penn once did i believe

[Thor4140]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/10/16/4846724/ahead-of-ufc-166-junior-dos-santos-required-stitches-on-facial-cut

[Thor4140]

Who ever cut JDS eye looks like they also broke his nose.

[MD]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/10/16/4845946/parisyan-vs-souza-added-to-rampage-vs-tito-fight-card

o/u on how many seconds Parisyan stays concious stands at 75.

[mirinquads]

Dude definitely hates his brain and dignity

[Crassus]

Gonzaga by sub at +650 seems nice. Anyone else thinking Noons and Boetsch are crazy good deals at that price?

[brokenbrain]

Gonzaga by sub at +650 seems nice. Anyone else thinking Noons and Boetsch are crazy good deals at that price?

I put a couple of Rubles on Ganzaga by Sub...but not much. I like Boetsch (er, more like I think CB is dud), but I haven't made a move. CB is as bad as he is ugly...my play here might be the Boetsch by TKO/KO prop. Not touching Noons/G-Sot, both guys lack consistency...IMHO

GL

[Beelzebubzy]

@Fightnomics: Diego Sanchez has attempted 127 takedowns in the UFC, but only landed 19%. That success rate is the lowest of any fighter at #UFC166

[OracleAdam]

Seems like Jordan has got a good training regimen going to prepare for the fight: http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-fit-shaw...t-overtraining. He's part of Jackson's camp, which has bred lots of great fighters.

Gonzaga trains at "Team Link". Looking at the list of fighters on that team, I haven't heard of any of them. Jordan is likely getting trained better.

[OracleAdam]

I put a couple of Rubles on Ganzaga by Sub...but not much. I like Boetsch (er, more like I think CB is dud), but I haven't made a move. CB is as bad as he is ugly...my play here might be the Boetsch by TKO/KO prop. Not touching Noons/G-Sot, both guys lack consistency...IMHO

GL

I like your thinking, I agree with everything you said. For some reason people seem to like CB Dolloway but I haven't seen him perform too well.

[Vaughany]

Seems like Jordan has got a good training regimen going to prepare for the fight: http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-fit-shaw...t-overtraining. He's part of Jackson's camp, which has bred lots of great fighters.

Gonzaga trains at "Team Link". Looking at the list of fighters on that team, I haven't heard of any of them. Jordan is likely getting trained better.

Defininitely Gunshards brother

[DFW]

Seeing some nice bets already, will post later

[DFW]

Doesn't matter either way, he won't get Melendez down.
Diego doesn't have a tricky takedown game, and he's not athletic enough.

[DFW]

Gonzaga by sub at +650 seems nice. Anyone else thinking Noons and Boetsch are crazy good deals at that price?

Definitely on G-sot here. Not liking Gonzaga by sub. He's not someone who'll jump on anything he sees like Vinny or so.
Jordan gets training well and it's very hard to submit a short and stocky guy.
And Gonzaga probably can't/won't take him down.

[DFW]

Not completely sure about the Kaufman/Eye match.
Can someone give a short breakdown on Eye? Don't see (no pun intended) too much value on either side, but I may bet Kaufman.

[NunyaBidness]

kicking Cola was the best thing u ever did? Wow really. There had to be something that topped that no?

In terms of health? No, I think that's no.1. Suffered from migraines my whole life, one month soda free and they were gone.

[Vaughany]

Maxi-bet on Roy?!!

“This has actually probably been the crappiest camp that I’ve ever had,” Nelson admitted on Wednesday. “It is what it is.”The root of Nelson’s problems began in mid-September, when his head boxing coach, Jeff Mayweather, suffered a mild heart attack after drinking an energy drink. The 49-year-old, Mayweather, wound up being hospitalized for weeks. Doctors subsequently diagnosed Mayweather with “full-blown diabetes,” and from there things only got worse:

“I lost Jeff probably about two weeks into camp,” Nelson explained. “I lost (training partner Muhammed ‘King) Mo’ Lawal. I lost Ryan Martinez, because in Bellator he broke his hand. It was just one of those camps where anything possibly that could’ve happened, happened. So you just kind of deal with it. I mean, I’ve been in the game long enough to know what I’m supposed to do and put the work in. And at the end of the day, that’s what it is.”

[Vaughany]

Maxi-bet on Lombard?!!

Former Bellator Middleweight champion Hector Lombard decided to make the jump to Welterweight in March after losing to Yushin Okami. Lombard had gone 1-2 in the UFC, with his only UFC win coming by way of KO over Rousimar Palhares.
Lombard is working with nutritionist guru Mike Dolce on the drop to 170, but according to reports Lombard is currently at 179. Lombard fights Saturday night at UFC 166 against former Strikeforce welterweight champion Nate Mardquart.
Tune in to BJPENN.com to watch the live weigh in for UFC 166: Dos Santos vs Velasquez III this Friday.

[OracleAdam]

Definitely on G-sot here. Not liking Gonzaga by sub. He's not someone who'll jump on anything he sees like Vinny or so.
Jordan gets training well and it's very hard to submit a short and stocky guy.
And Gonzaga probably can't/won't take him down.

A good prop is Jordan by sub. It's at +3150!! I put a unit down on that. Ya, I think G-Sot might surprise here. He's at the point in his career where he knows he has no chance to be dominant in the division, so he's just fighting for the love of the sport.

[NunyaBidness]

A good prop is Jordan by sub. It's at +3150!! I put a unit down on that. Ya, I think G-Sot might surprise here. He's at the point in his career where he knows he has no chance to be dominant in the division, so he's just fighting for the love of the sport.

So, if they're young you've gotta bet on em because they're going to improve, but if they're old you gotta bet em because its for the love of the sport.

The only reason to bet Sot in this spot is because Noons managed to make Couture look competitive.

[Vaughany]

A good prop is Jordan by sub. It's at +3150!! I put a unit down on that. Ya, I think G-Sot might surprise here. He's at the point in his career where he knows he has no chance to be dominant in the division, so he's just fighting for the love of the sport.

How does that give him an edge? Isnt Noons the same?

[Thor4140]

Noons is such and average fighter but he does have decent hands, What G sop doesn't have is a chin. Noons just gets in to many close fights for my likin.

[Thor4140]

Maxi-bet on Roy?!!

“This has actually probably been the crappiest camp that I’ve ever had,” Nelson admitted on Wednesday. “It is what it is.”The root of Nelson’s problems began in mid-September, when his head boxing coach, Jeff Mayweather, suffered a mild heart attack after drinking an energy drink. The 49-year-old, Mayweather, wound up being hospitalized for weeks. Doctors subsequently diagnosed Mayweather with “full-blown diabetes,” and from there things only got worse:

“I lost Jeff probably about two weeks into camp,” Nelson explained. “I lost (training partner Muhammed ‘King) Mo’ Lawal. I lost Ryan Martinez, because in Bellator he broke his hand. It was just one of those camps where anything possibly that could’ve happened, happened. So you just kind of deal with it. I mean, I’ve been in the game long enough to know what I’m supposed to do and put the work in. And at the end of the day, that’s what it is.”

one way to look at this is that he is bullshitting. Normally a guy knows what has to be done and gets it done regardless. With this lazy fuk i think i might believe him more than this is a plan of his.

[Thor4140]

Maxi-bet on Lombard?!!

Former Bellator Middleweight champion Hector Lombard decided to make the jump to Welterweight in March after losing to Yushin Okami. Lombard had gone 1-2 in the UFC, with his only UFC win coming by way of KO over Rousimar Palhares.
Lombard is working with nutritionist guru Mike Dolce on the drop to 170, but according to reports Lombard is currently at 179. Lombard fights Saturday night at UFC 166 against former Strikeforce welterweight champion Nate Mardquart.
Tune in to BJPENN.com to watch the live weigh in for UFC 166: Dos Santos vs Velasquez III this Friday.

all guys worry with Dolce then they say the last drop was relatively easy.

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hmm somethin weird about this one

Sat 10/19		1703 Eye/Kaufman goes 3 round distance		-205
8:30PM		1704 Fight won't go 3 round distance		+159
Sat 10/19		1705 Eye wins inside distance		+748
8:30PM		1706 Not Eye inside distance		-1578
Sat 10/19		1707 Eye wins by 3 round decision		+253
8:30PM		1708 Not Eye by 3 round decision		-357
Sat 10/19		1709 Kaufman wins inside distance		+223
8:30PM		1710 Not Kaufman inside distance		-303
Sat 10/19		1711 Eye wins by 3 round decision		+135
8:30PM		1712 Not Eye by 3 round decision		-175
Sat 10/19		1713 Eye/Kaufman draw		+8000
8:30PM		1714 Fight not a draw		-21500

[MD]

Maxi-bet on Lombard?!!

Former Bellator Middleweight champion Hector Lombard decided to make the jump to Welterweight in March after losing to Yushin Okami. Lombard had gone 1-2 in the UFC, with his only UFC win coming by way of KO over Rousimar Palhares.
Lombard is working with nutritionist guru Mike Dolce on the drop to 170, but according to reports Lombard is currently at 179. Lombard fights Saturday night at UFC 166 against former Strikeforce welterweight champion Nate Mardquart.
Tune in to BJPENN.com to watch the live weigh in for UFC 166: Dos Santos vs Velasquez III this Friday.

9lbs in a few days is nothing.

[Vaughany]

9lbs in a few days is nothing.

not necessarily, what if he's had to cut 20lbs in the previous 3 days?