UFC 164: Henderson Vs Pettis 2 (August 31, 2013)

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  • mmaed
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    #211
    Originally posted by Noleafclover
    palelei +170 x2
    cedenblad -115 x.5
    rothwell -110

    Pretty sure I'm a horrible person. Only watched a little video on Rothwell/Vera, yet I feel really strongly about it. He's just so much bigger, Vera's so out of shape, the only way Vera wins this is if he keeps his distance for the first two rounds, no?
    The only fights I can remember seeing Vera win were the ones when he kept his distance and used his striking game +reach advantage. Rothwell is going to be much harder to do that to. Granted vera is a better striker. I think Rothwell can keep it somewhat competitive at range and win the clinch battle.
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    • mmaed
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      #212
      Throw in the fact that Rothwell has only been submitted twice and vera has only submitted one person in his career(he is a black belt in bjj though). Also consider that Rothwell can take a lot of punishment. I don't see Vera stopping him. He could definitely win a decision though. I could see that happening.
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      • Noleafclover
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        #213
        Pretty much the way I saw it. Did you watch a lot of film on it, btw?

        Agree about Vera decision, hadn't thought about it in those terms before though - thats at +450, kinda tempting to hedge .24u on that... still win .76u if Rothwell, negligible loss (.02u) if Vera dec. Course if the impossible happens we're out 1.34u but thats not so bad for the likelihood.
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        • mmaed
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          #214
          Originally posted by Noleafclover
          Pretty much the way I saw it. Did you watch a lot of film on it, btw?

          Agree about Vera decision, hadn't thought about it in those terms before though - thats at +450, kinda tempting to hedge .24u on that... still win .76u if Rothwell, negligible loss (.02u) if Vera dec. Course if the impossible happens we're out 1.34u but thats not so bad for the likelihood.
          No I didn't watch anymore tape on anyone but Ive already seen the Soz,Couture,Thiago silva, jon jones and parts of the shogun fight. Ive seen pretty much all of Rothwells ufc fight.s
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          • Vaughany
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            #215
            Originally posted by mmaed
            Throw in the fact that Rothwell has only been submitted twice and vera has only submitted one person in his career(he is a black belt in bjj though). Also consider that Rothwell can take a lot of punishment. I don't see Vera stopping him. He could definitely win a decision though. I could see that happening.
            leg kicks and body kicks could stop him
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            • Noleafclover
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              #216
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              • GunShard
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                #217
                lol
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                • shabang
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                  #218
                  I hope the refs play fair tonight...who am I kidding ? :/
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                  • Vaughany
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by GunShard
                    lol
                    That was a funny video
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                    • Educ8d Degener8
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                      #220
                      Gonna beat Nunya to the punch with the youtube prelim stream...

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                      • NunyaBidness
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                        #221
                        In before someone asks for a prelim stream anyway.
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                        • Beelzebubzy
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                          #222
                          Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                          Gonna beat Nunya to the punch with the youtube prelim stream...

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5UBDDSyTs
                          sac give ED ythe two points
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                          • Educ8d Degener8
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                            #223
                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                            In before someone asks for a prelim stream anyway.
                            True dat.
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                            • shabang
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                              #224
                              thanks for the link...Gl all
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                              • Vaughany
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                                #225
                                Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                Gonna beat Nunya to the punch with the youtube prelim stream...

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5UBDDSyTs
                                nice, time to watch the chump card
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                                • NunyaBidness
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                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                  nice, time to watch the chump card
                                  heh, something like 80% of my action is on the chump card.
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                                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                    #227
                                    yea this sweedish dude is big for middleweight
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                                    • Beelzebubzy
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                                      #228
                                      no live betting on this one?
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                                      • NunyaBidness
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                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                        no live betting on this one?
                                        Kush is livebetting it from the Plaza downtown right now.
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                                        • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                          #230
                                          what was i thinking betting on Hamman
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                                          • Beelzebubzy
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                                            #231
                                            wow so happy i played him straight instead of by KO
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                                            • Vaughany
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                                              #232
                                              fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck why didnt I bet against that bum!!!!!!!!!!
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                                              • shabang
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                                                #233
                                                haha wow! penetrating sick
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                                                • NunyaBidness
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                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                  wow so happy i played him straight instead of by KO
                                                  I am sad bear.
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                                                  • Noleafclover
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                                                    #235
                                                    What a beautiful choke.
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                                                    • Beelzebubzy
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                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                      I am sad bear.
                                                      if that hits SOTN i will be sad too

                                                      on a sad note, we cant fade hamman anymore
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                                                      • Grabaka
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                                                        #237
                                                        No premium today?

                                                        GL everuone!!!
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                                                        • Noleafclover
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                                                          #238
                                                          Lim v Krauss? Lim has a freakish reach advantage, but I don't like the way he strikes with arms down. Pretty accurate imo, but does some silly stuff when grappling. Krauss kinda tight with his striking... haven't been able to determine too much about him...
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                                                          • shabang
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                                                            #239
                                                            I have couture
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                                                            • Beelzebubzy
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                                                              #240
                                                              how many facebook fights are there?
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                                                              • NunyaBidness
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                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                                how many facebook fights are there?
                                                                3
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                                                                • Das Jax
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                                                                  • 09-23-11
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                                                                  #242
                                                                  Late to the party, but I like how things are going! I had two whole units on that big oaf. Now I just hope this next fight ends ITD.
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                                                                  • Beelzebubzy
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                                                                    #243
                                                                    Thanks

                                                                    Googled it after I asked
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                                                                    • Das Jax
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                                                                      #244
                                                                      The fact that junior is trying to strike is encouraging...
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                                                                      • Beelzebubzy
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                                                                        #245
                                                                        Iaquinta is the primordial Weidman
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