UFC 164: Henderson Vs Pettis 2 (August 31, 2013)

mmaed · 08-31-13, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Noleafclover

palelei +170 x2
cedenblad -115 x.5
rothwell -110

Pretty sure I'm a horrible person. Only watched a little video on Rothwell/Vera, yet I feel really strongly about it. He's just so much bigger, Vera's so out of shape, the only way Vera wins this is if he keeps his distance for the first two rounds, no?

The only fights I can remember seeing Vera win were the ones when he kept his distance and used his striking game +reach advantage. Rothwell is going to be much harder to do that to. Granted vera is a better striker. I think Rothwell can keep it somewhat competitive at range and win the clinch battle.

mmaed · 08-31-13, 04:13 PM

Throw in the fact that Rothwell has only been submitted twice and vera has only submitted one person in his career(he is a black belt in bjj though). Also consider that Rothwell can take a lot of punishment. I don't see Vera stopping him. He could definitely win a decision though. I could see that happening.

Noleafclover · 08-31-13, 04:28 PM

Pretty much the way I saw it. Did you watch a lot of film on it, btw?

Agree about Vera decision, hadn't thought about it in those terms before though - thats at +450, kinda tempting to hedge .24u on that... still win .76u if Rothwell, negligible loss (.02u) if Vera dec. Course if the impossible happens we're out 1.34u but thats not so bad for the likelihood.

mmaed · 08-31-13, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Noleafclover

Pretty much the way I saw it. Did you watch a lot of film on it, btw?

Agree about Vera decision, hadn't thought about it in those terms before though - thats at +450, kinda tempting to hedge .24u on that... still win .76u if Rothwell, negligible loss (.02u) if Vera dec. Course if the impossible happens we're out 1.34u but thats not so bad for the likelihood.

No I didn't watch anymore tape on anyone but Ive already seen the Soz,Couture,Thiago silva, jon jones and parts of the shogun fight. Ive seen pretty much all of Rothwells ufc fight.s

Vaughany · 08-31-13, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by mmaed

Throw in the fact that Rothwell has only been submitted twice and vera has only submitted one person in his career(he is a black belt in bjj though). Also consider that Rothwell can take a lot of punishment. I don't see Vera stopping him. He could definitely win a decision though. I could see that happening.

leg kicks and body kicks could stop him

Noleafclover · 08-31-13, 04:35 PM

GunShard · 08-31-13, 04:47 PM

lol

shabang · 08-31-13, 05:04 PM

I hope the refs play fair tonight...who am I kidding ? :/

Vaughany · 08-31-13, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by GunShard

lol

That was a funny video

Educ8d Degener8 · 08-31-13, 05:21 PM

Gonna beat Nunya to the punch with the youtube prelim stream...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5UBDDSyTs

NunyaBidness · 08-31-13, 05:23 PM

In before someone asks for a prelim stream anyway.

Beelzebubzy · 08-31-13, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Gonna beat Nunya to the punch with the youtube prelim stream...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5UBDDSyTs

sac give ED ythe two points

Educ8d Degener8 · 08-31-13, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

In before someone asks for a prelim stream anyway.

True dat.

shabang · 08-31-13, 05:28 PM

thanks for the link...Gl all

Vaughany · 08-31-13, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Gonna beat Nunya to the punch with the youtube prelim stream...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5UBDDSyTs

nice, time to watch the chump card

NunyaBidness · 08-31-13, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

nice, time to watch the chump card

heh, something like 80% of my action is on the chump card.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 08-31-13, 05:37 PM

yea this sweedish dude is big for middleweight

Beelzebubzy · 08-31-13, 05:37 PM

no live betting on this one?

NunyaBidness · 08-31-13, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

no live betting on this one?

Kush is livebetting it from the Plaza downtown right now.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 08-31-13, 05:39 PM

what was i thinking betting on Hamman

Beelzebubzy · 08-31-13, 05:39 PM

wow so happy i played him straight instead of by KO

Vaughany · 08-31-13, 05:39 PM

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck why didnt I bet against that bum!!!!!!!!!!

shabang · 08-31-13, 05:39 PM

haha wow! penetrating sick

NunyaBidness · 08-31-13, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

wow so happy i played him straight instead of by KO

I am sad bear.

Noleafclover · 08-31-13, 05:43 PM

What a beautiful choke.

Beelzebubzy · 08-31-13, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I am sad bear.

if that hits SOTN i will be sad too

on a sad note, we cant fade hamman anymore

Grabaka · 08-31-13, 05:48 PM

No premium today?

GL everuone!!!

Noleafclover · 08-31-13, 05:50 PM

Lim v Krauss? Lim has a freakish reach advantage, but I don't like the way he strikes with arms down. Pretty accurate imo, but does some silly stuff when grappling. Krauss kinda tight with his striking... haven't been able to determine too much about him...

shabang · 08-31-13, 05:55 PM

I have couture

Beelzebubzy · 08-31-13, 05:56 PM

how many facebook fights are there?

NunyaBidness · 08-31-13, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

how many facebook fights are there?

3

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Das Jax · 08-31-13, 05:57 PM

Late to the party, but I like how things are going! I had two whole units on that big oaf. Now I just hope this next fight ends ITD.

Beelzebubzy · 08-31-13, 05:59 PM

Thanks

Googled it after I asked

Das Jax · 08-31-13, 05:59 PM

The fact that junior is trying to strike is encouraging...

Beelzebubzy · 08-31-13, 06:00 PM

Iaquinta is the primordial Weidman