UFC on FX 8: Mighty Mouse vs Moraga (7-27-13)

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • PunisherIND
    SBR MVP
    • 02-24-11
    • 4983

    #71
    Originally posted by The iron sheik
    Took Schaub, good luck
    good luck man. It's a close one imo
    Comment
    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #72
      yeah, also good buddies so might spend the fight hugging and high-fiving
      Comment
      • Rubber Guard
        SBR MVP
        • 06-22-11
        • 1550

        #73
        I hate to say it because Guillard has burnt me before. And I don't care to back dumb fighters. But I don't really see why Guillard is the dog. Mac is a smart fighter, but he doesn't exactly have the wrestling to get a traditional TD on Guillard. He like many will be at a disadvantage in the physicality department vs. Melvin. And obviously he can sub Guillard if he gets it to the floor, but he isn't Joe Lauzon nor Jim Miller. Never feel confident in Guillard, he could be doing coke again. But on paper I see now reason why Guillard is the dog. He has been losing to much better fighters than Danzig.
        Comment
        • goodfellas433
          SBR Sharp
          • 07-16-12
          • 441

          #74
          He has been losing to much better fighters than Danzig.[/QUOTE]


          Just because it's both true and I know exactly what you mean- but I always find it so funny when we are forced to evaluate a fight on who LOST to the better fighters.
          Comment
          • mmaed
            SBR MVP
            • 11-25-11
            • 1327

            #75
            Guillard is retarded.
            Comment
            • Rubber Guard
              SBR MVP
              • 06-22-11
              • 1550

              #76
              Originally posted by goodfellas433
              He has been losing to much better fighters than Danzig.

              Just because it's both true and I know exactly what you mean- but I always find it so funny when we are forced to evaluate a fight on who LOST to the better fighters.[/QUOTE]
              That's not the only way I evaluated it. I'm just saying, Guillard is susceptible to subs no doubt, but Mac is no Lauzon, no Diaz, no Jim Miller. Guillard has been losing to some real solid fighters. 2 years ago Guillard would have been -250 or more. I think people may be overreacting to his stupid losses. He is a dumb fighter, but those fighters were good enough to capitalize on it. Not sure if Mac is good enough to capitalize like that.
              Comment
              • mirinquads
                SBR MVP
                • 04-22-13
                • 3927

                #77
                Danzig looked straight awful in his last Gomi fight. He hasnt had a win over a decent fighter in 5 years. I really dont think its healthy to try and train like an MMA fighter on a Vegan diet though, that shit can kill you. Dude looked like a deer in the headlights when Gomi started throwing leather at him.
                Comment
                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #78
                  Corrasani is hardcore vegan now..constantly banging on about it and the pitfalls of eating meat on twitter
                  Comment
                  • goodfellas433
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 07-16-12
                    • 441

                    #79
                    900 to win 400 on Rory.... ride or die with some of my Weidman KO prop moolah
                    Comment
                    • rocky16
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-22-12
                      • 1905

                      #80
                      Originally posted by goodfellas433
                      900 to win 400 on Rory.... ride or die with some of my Weidman KO prop moolah
                      Great play phagboy. Start counting that shit now. Can't believe there are some focking retards who think Ellenberger can win this fight. Mind blowing.
                      Comment
                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #81
                        haha
                        Comment
                        • rocky16
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-22-12
                          • 1905

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          haha
                          Pal, I will bet my left nut (the more alpha nut) that Rory starches this focking goof Ellenberger and wipes the floor with him. By round 2 Ellenberger will be begging for mercy, but Rory won't give a fock about giving any. He's there to make a statement.
                          Comment
                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #83
                            I hope so
                            Comment
                            • rocky16
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-22-12
                              • 1905

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                              I hope so
                              Don't worry playa, just fire shit in and collect.
                              Comment
                              • The iron sheik
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-17-13
                                • 1105

                                #85
                                Originally posted by rocky16
                                Pal, I will bet my left nut (the more alpha nut) that Rory starches this focking goof Ellenberger and wipes the floor with him. By round 2 Ellenberger will be begging for mercy, but Rory won't give a fock about giving any. He's there to make a statement.
                                May I ask why the left nut is more alpha?
                                Ancient greeks believed that men come from the right nut, and the girls come from the left nut. Now far be it from me to defend those anal loving miscreants of the south, but....
                                Comment
                                • rocky16
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-22-12
                                  • 1905

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                  May I ask why the left nut is more alpha?
                                  Ancient greeks believed that men come from the right nut, and the girls come from the left nut. Now far be it from me to defend those anal loving miscreants of the south, but....
                                  Its bigger and hairier. Plus when I teabag the Hoers I always drop the left one in first. It just feels better that way.
                                  Comment
                                  • rocky16
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-22-12
                                    • 1905

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                    May I ask why the left nut is more alpha?
                                    Ancient greeks believed that men come from the right nut, and the girls come from the left nut. Now far be it from me to defend those anal loving miscreants of the south, but....
                                    Don't forget Ancient Greeks were bunch of fokking chomos who had twink boys as sex slaves. Most common form of phaget relationships in Greece was "boy love." Once they grew beards they weren't considered boys anymore, they were full grown phagets.
                                    Comment
                                    • The iron sheik
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-17-13
                                      • 1105

                                      #88
                                      The japanese also loved that stuff before the christians came over (there's delicate irony in that). Can't trust anyone these days, sheesh.
                                      Comment
                                      • DSSCA
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 03-07-12
                                        • 454

                                        #89
                                        Waitin for the KO prop on Masvidal. Stick that in a parlay with DJ and Ellenberger/Rory ITD. Well see though. Not loving this card at the moment.
                                        Comment
                                        • Beelzebubzy
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-06-11
                                          • 6995

                                          #90
                                          At what odds are you playing masvidal KO?
                                          Comment
                                          • Sato
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-10-12
                                            • 1201

                                            #91
                                            Sheik do me a favor will ya? Change the avatar because every time my sweetheart looks at my laptop and sees that cripple chested rooster_eater she thinks Im a drugged up lunatic doing god knows what.

                                            Thank you!
                                            Comment
                                            • The iron sheik
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-17-13
                                              • 1105

                                              #92
                                              Calling the greatest human being to ever live a "cripple chested rooster_eater" isn't a good way to go about things.
                                              I might change this specific sheiky baby picture, but the sheik is there to stay.
                                              Comment
                                              • Sato
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-10-12
                                                • 1201

                                                #93
                                                Why? Are you an old wrestling fan?
                                                Comment
                                                • The iron sheik
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-17-13
                                                  • 1105

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Sato
                                                  Why? Are you an old wrestling fan?
                                                  Well, the iron sheik gimmick account kind of goes to waste if I put a picture of Don Frye in there...

                                                  But yeah, I watched wrestling as a kid and I'm still a fan of the sheik, just a quick youtube search with the man will entertain
                                                  Comment
                                                  • Noleafclover
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-06-13
                                                    • 1349

                                                    #95
                                                    i'd like to like andrade against carmouche (wmma +450 ), and she does have a lot of heart and a tough chin...

                                                    but i just see this fight going a lot like andrade's loss to maia - carmouche presses her up against the cage, uses her weight to tire her the entire fight. and andrade always willing to scramble on the ground, but i don't know that that strategy will work against carmouche, she's too experienced. it didn't really work against maia either, she came out the worst most times she tried.

                                                    andrade looked good against dudieva though, who's 8-2. good ground and pound to open up the sub.
                                                    Comment
                                                    • DSSCA
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 03-07-12
                                                      • 454

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                      At what odds are you playing masvidal KO?
                                                      Given Masvidal has won by KO/TKO in 10 of 24 victories, has fought some top level guys and Chiesa has some of the worst timing and overall stand up (In my opinion) I think Masvidal KOs him 30% of the time. I know he hasn't KOed anyone of note in a while, but I just REALLY think Chiesa is soft and will wilt. It's most likely more of a play that Chiesa will be lost in any kind of exchange and get tagged than my thoughts that Masvidal is a killer. I'll play +230. I believe that is being conservative too. His accuracy and Chiesa being a bearded Glass Joe is what pushes me on this one. Not too mention if Melendez did not exactly abuse Masvidal w/ takedowns enough to finish, I don't see Chiesa being able to conistantly take him down. Masvidal has a much better gas tank. I think Chiesa will gas and then get finished. I need to do a lot more research to nail it down, but this is just my stream of consciousness @ the moment. Going to have to look @ a lot of aspects and %s before I decide. You have thoughts on it?
                                                      Comment
                                                      • mmaed
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-25-11
                                                        • 1327

                                                        #97
                                                        Cheisa couldn't get Anton Kuivanen down for the first round IIRC.
                                                        Comment
                                                        • Beelzebubzy
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-06-11
                                                          • 6995

                                                          #98
                                                          Played masvidal straight small
                                                          this is a huge step up for chiesa who is a slow starter
                                                          Masvidal taking this on short notice is good news as he has ballooned up in the past.
                                                          Comment
                                                          • mmaed
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-25-11
                                                            • 1327

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                            Played masvidal straight small
                                                            this is a huge step up for chiesa who is a slow starter
                                                            Masvidal taking this on short notice is good news as he has ballooned up in the past.
                                                            Masvidal balloons up? Why would it be good he is taking the fight on short notice? You assume that must mean he is in shape?
                                                            Comment
                                                            • Crassus
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-08-12
                                                              • 1538

                                                              #100
                                                              5Dimes has Melvin Guillard at -105, which I think is a huge disservice to Guillard. I believe he is crazy undervalued in this situation. Here's my line of thinking here:

                                                              Firstly, Guillard seemingly is training like he's a new pro fighter, sleeping in a basement while training full time . I'm not reading too much into that but it's a refreshing sign for Guillard. I think Guillard has definitely lost a bit of a step in his last few fights, but he did almost knock out Cerrone and he's still crazy fast and powerful in the striking department.

                                                              From watching tape, I've seen a couple things I really like about this match-up. Firstly, Guillard has some really solid leg kicks, both Gomi and Wiman used them very effectively in their matches against Danzig. Secondly, Danzig showed that he's susceptible to wider hooks, those punches are some of Guillards best. He throws them incredibly fast and he knows when to throw him.

                                                              If Danzig closes it up into a clinch he's a decent clincher but again he showed susceptibility to hooks thrown from the clinch, another aspect that Guillard excels at.

                                                              Finally, Danzig likes to throw lazy leg kicks and he likes to throw one-two's while going forward. In the Gomi fight, Gomi countered a few of Danzigs leg kicks with straights extremely well and Guillard can time those hits extremely well (If Cerrone had been a fraction bit closer Guillard would have KO'ed him with this brutal counter-punch to his lazy leg kick.) Guillard also got his almost KO of Cowboy by countering a lazy one-two while moving forward.

                                                              Basically, Danzig has pretty average stand-up and he doesn't have much power. The only way he wins this is if he gets Guillard to the ground, but the way Danzig gets people to the ground is he does a sloppy combo to get inside, tie up, dirty box a bit and then get the takedown from there. He'll have to walk through way too much fire from Guillard to get into that scenario.

                                                              I think Guillard wins this 6/10 times, so there seems to be a fair bit of value from this end.
                                                              Comment
                                                              • Beelzebubzy
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-06-11
                                                                • 6995

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by mmaed
                                                                Masvidal balloons up? Why would it be good he is taking the fight on short notice? You assume that must mean he is in shape?
                                                                He states in a junkie interview that he is a money weight fighter and would take a fight at 185,
                                                                short notice won't allow him to get out of shape that extreme
                                                                Comment
                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Believe Fisher is also out and replaced by Daron Cruickshank
                                                                  Comment
                                                                  • mirinquads
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-22-13
                                                                    • 3927

                                                                    #103
                                                                    penetrating Lawler and Fisher is out? Suck a fat goddamn smegma infected rooster, i was looking forward to that shit
                                                                    Comment
                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #104
                                                                      lol Koscheck out of Maia fight as well!
                                                                      Comment
                                                                      • Beelzebubzy
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 06-06-11
                                                                        • 6995

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                        lol Koscheck out of Maia fight as well!
                                                                        Chandler blades should offer his services.
                                                                        Comment
                                                                        Search
                                                                        Collapse
                                                                        SBR Contests
                                                                        Collapse
                                                                        Top-Rated US Sportsbooks
                                                                        Collapse
                                                                        Working...