UFC on FX 8: Mighty Mouse vs Moraga (7-27-13)

**Rubber Guard** · 06-22-13, 09:13 AM

bobby

**DSSCA** · 06-22-13, 05:00 PM

Excited to see what the Masvidal line will open at. Might even deposit more for that one!

**mirinquads** · 06-22-13, 05:05 PM

da fk thought Fisher retired? Good to see him back, he has at least a couple of good ones left in the tank.

**PunisherIND** · 06-25-13, 03:46 PM

anyone backing moraga here? tempting at +300.

MD · 06-25-13, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

anyone backing moraga here? tempting at +300.

Burning money IMO.

**Vaughany** · 06-25-13, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

da fk thought Fisher retired? Good to see him back, he has at least a couple of good ones left in the tank.

dude needs a pay day

**PunisherIND** · 06-25-13, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by MD

Burning money IMO.

actually, i guess it would make sense to play moraga ITD, if anything.

**PunisherIND** · 06-25-13, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

dude needs a pay day

lol there are a couple dudes with upcoming fights that i had no idea were still in the ufc. aaron riley. thales leites.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-25-13, 04:08 PM

Tons of value on favorites here, like most fox cards. Not touching rory and jake though...

**Vaughany** · 06-25-13, 04:08 PM

ha yeah Aaron Riley has been out for ages

**Sacrelicious** · 06-25-13, 04:12 PM

There are 5 favorites on this card I will be pounding if the openers are close to what I think they will be.

**mirinquads** · 06-25-13, 04:17 PM

Leites got resigned, but yeah Riley.. wtf, last thought in like 2011, has he been injured?

**PunisherIND** · 06-25-13, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Tons of value on favorites here, like most fox cards. Not touching rory and jake though...

lol that only leaves mighty mouse.

**Thor4140** · 06-25-13, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

da fk thought Fisher retired? Good to see him back, he has at least a couple of good ones left in the tank.

really. The guy to me looks washed up.

MD · 06-25-13, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

actually, i guess it would make sense to play moraga ITD, if anything.

This is a classic example of big favourites being undervalued by the public. Happens almost every time GSP fights, somehow. In a few years MMA will be like boxing and Jones will be -5000 every time he fights.

Johnson should never, ever lose to Moraga. There might be less than a 5% chance of it happening. It's an utter squash match and I wouldn't be shocked to see Johnson get the TKO.

**Beelzebubzy** · 06-25-13, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by MD

This is a classic example of big favourites being undervalued by the public. Happens almost every time GSP fights, somehow. In a few years MMA will be like boxing and Jones will be -5000 every time he fights.

Johnson should never, ever lose to Moraga. There might be less than a 5% chance of it happening. It's an utter squash match and I wouldn't be shocked to see Johnson get the TKO.

Large on Mighty mouse?

the smaller weights are a pain in the ass to cap IMO because there is more action and judges with 27 chromosomes

**Sacrelicious** · 06-25-13, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by MD

This is a classic example of big favourites being undervalued by the public. Happens almost every time GSP fights, somehow. In a few years MMA will be like boxing and Jones will be -5000 every time he fights.

Johnson should never, ever lose to Moraga. There might be less than a 5% chance of it happening. It's an utter squash match and I wouldn't be shocked to see Johnson get the TKO.

Glad to see someone here gets it.

MD · 06-25-13, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Large on Mighty mouse?

the smaller weights are a pain in the ass to cap IMO because there is more action and judges with 27 chromosomes

Parlay Mighty Mouse, Edgar, Aldo, Bendo, Jones, and GSP. Easiest six-teamer you will ever cash. In fact I'm seriously going to go do that right now.

MD · 06-25-13, 05:27 PM

$500.00	$2,331.01	Pending	7 Team Parlay
				Pending	7/6/13 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Frankie Edgar -500* vs Charles Oliveira
				Pending	7/27/13 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1002 Demetrious Johnson -385* vs John Moraga
				Pending	7/27/13 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1102 Rory MacDonald -215* vs Jake Ellenberger
				Pending	8/3/13 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Jose Aldo -675* vs Chan Sung Jung
				Pending	8/31/13 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Benson Henderson -245* vs TJ Grant
				Pending	9/21/13 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Jon Jones -650* vs Alexander Gustafsson
				Pending	11/16/13 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1002 Georges St-Pierre -270* vs Johny Hendricks

**Sacrelicious** · 06-25-13, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by MD

Parlay Mighty Mouse, Edgar, Aldo, Bendo, Jones, and GSP. Easiest six-teamer you will ever cash. In fact I'm seriously going to go do that right now.

I have a mm, aldo, machida and jones parlay myself. Only reason edgar is not in there is I got my money in on him hard at a much better price.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-25-13, 05:31 PM

Call it the pro wrestling fan in me, but I think these fox cards since december are purposely match made in order to try and put people over. This is the place will the ufc will be viewed by the most eyes and short of one or two "exciting fights", most of them are designed to put people over on a large stage.

MD · 06-25-13, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

I have a mm, aldo, machida and jones parlay myself. Only reason edgar is not in there is I got my money in on him hard at a much better price.

Check out the one I just posted at almost +500.

I'm going to be a co-author on "tbird: The Man Who Beat the Books".

**Sacrelicious** · 06-25-13, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by MD

Check out the one I just posted at >+400.

I'm going to be a co-author on "tbird: The Man Who Beat the Books".

Trust me, I dig ya, but my money on edgar went in super hard at -400.

Gsp line, I reckon, won't get any worse until fall, and I don't want my money tied up that long.

As for bendo, I'm reluctant to pull the trigger. Why no machida -400 in the mix? I'm baffled that line actually got better.

MD · 06-25-13, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Trust me, I dig ya, but my money on edgar went in super hard at -400.

Gsp line, I reckon, won't get any worse until fall, and I don't want my money tied up that long.

As for bendo, I'm reluctant to pull the trigger. Why no machida -400 in the mix? I'm baffled that line actually got better.

Didn't want to add too much value. Give the books a chance bro.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-25-13, 05:41 PM

Yeah fair enough.

You really like rory at those odds? I think there will be better value in props.

MD · 06-25-13, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Yeah fair enough.

You really like rory at those odds? I think there will be better value in props.

I will be up front and say that I probably have the lowest possible opinion of Ellenberger as a fighter considering all of the guys that he's beaten. Sometimes I think I'm underestimating him severely, but then I watch his fights.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-25-13, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by MD

I will be up front and say that I probably have the lowest possible opinion of Ellenberger as a fighter considering all of the guys that he's beaten. Sometimes I think I'm underestimating him severely, but then I watch his fights.

I never said I don't like rory at those odds.. Just thinking props will have better value.

**Beelzebubzy** · 06-25-13, 06:05 PM

Nice play md

i have similar without gsp

**mmaed** · 06-25-13, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by MD

I will be up front and say that I probably have the lowest possible opinion of Ellenberger as a fighter considering all of the guys that he's beaten. Sometimes I think I'm underestimating him severely, but then I watch his fights.

Ellenberger has a very good shot against rory. Pretty much all of rorys ufc wind have come against guys he could outgrapple. His striking isnt really anything that amazing. Ellenberger is a tank and probably a better wrestler than rory. Therefore ellenberger has a reasonable shot of forcing a standup battle.

standing, jake has a ton of power. That is too much of a wildcard to bet on rory, especially considering he is the favorite. Ellenberger or nothing imo. Maybe even ellenberger with points if you can get it close to even.

MD · 06-25-13, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by mmaed

Ellenberger has a very good shot against rory. Pretty much all of rorys ufc wind have come against guys he could outgrapple. His striking isnt really anything that amazing. Ellenberger is a tank and probably a better wrestler than rory. Therefore ellenberger has a reasonable shot of forcing a standup battle.

standing, jake has a ton of power. That is too much of a wildcard to bet on rory, especially considering he is the favorite. Ellenberger or nothing imo. Maybe even ellenberger with points if you can get it close to even.

The striking gap between MacDonald and Ellenberger is huge. Rory is far more diverse and better in every single facet of striking. Literally all Ellenberger has going for him is his power. Yeah, he hits hard, but landing a flush bomb on a far better striker is his only way to win on the feet. I think his most realistic route to victory is to take Rory down as much as he can until Ellenberger gasses, and hope he did enough to win two rounds and that Rory can't finish in the third.

**hougigo** · 06-25-13, 09:59 PM

I'm not a huge fan of UFC ( For some reason, bellator seems better to me) but huge fan of Mighty Mouse.

**mirinquads** · 06-26-13, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Thor4140

really. The guy to me looks washed up.

His standup was looking pretty crisp and quick compared to his age against stout.

**PunisherIND** · 07-04-13, 06:04 PM

new lines

**The iron sheik** · 07-04-13, 07:46 PM

I played Brendan Schaub at +130

...but then I woke up, I wish I got that one