2012 Shutout System Results+Plays

[arizona40]

will someone update plays for today....Im not ready to come up with todays plays on my own yet.

Thanks for anyone's help

Here is what i have come up with as far as plays for today:

Fade system.

Fade Pittsburg (gm3) - pending game is tomorrow.
Fade Kansas City (gm3)
Fade St Louis (gm2)
Fade NY Yankees (gm1)
Fade Ch White sox (gm1)

Tail system:

Tail Atlanta (gm3)
Tail Milwaukee (gm2)
Tail Tampa Bay (gm1) - pending game is tomorrow.
Tail Texas (gm1)

I am pretty sure this is correct. I am only following the fade system so if my Tail "picks" shown here are wrong, I apologize.

Gl today boys, lets clear those game 3's at least.

[pagodo]

OMG, what an awesome game in Detroit.
I really missed baseball.

UPDATE
Monday, 4/9

Shutouts on Sunday (4/8):
TB vs NYY, 3-0
TEX vs CWS, 5-0

---
System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out):

Results (4/8):
fade Miami, game 2
fade Pittsburgh, game 2
fade Kansas City, game 2
fade Boston, game 1
fade St Louis, game 1

PLAYS (4/9):
fade Kansas City, game 3
fade St Louis, game 2
fade NY Yankees, game 1
fade Ch White Sox, game 1
--
(PIT g3 on 4/10)


Game 1: 3-4
Game 2: 1-2
Game 3: -
Game 4: -
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 1 = (4-0)


---
System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out):

Results (4/8):
tail Philadelphia, game 2
tail Cincinnati, game 2
tail LA Angels, game 2
tail Detroit, game 1
tail Milwaukee, game 1

PLAYS (4/9):
tail Philadelphia, game 3
tail LA Angels, game 3
tail Milwaukee, game 2
tail Texas, game 1
--
(TB g1 on 4/10)


Game 1: 3-4
Game 2: 1-2
Game 3: -
Game 4: -
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 2 = (4-0)


---
Please go to posts #1 and #2 for detailed information on the strategy.
---

[pagodo]

Thanks for your post on the labby strategy, thelimit, I very much appreciate you doing the rundown of what we came up with. I'm struggling for time lately and didn't have time to put it together.

Also, I included the link to our last year's discussion on the labby - in post #2, if anyone's interested.

[analyzer]

Thanks pagodo - you're right it was a great game in DET! Good luck!

[pagodo]

Hey guys, new to the forum. I want to thank you all for your hard work and dedication in backtesting this system and other bankroll management methods. [...] my request for either Pagodo, or thelimit is to post how many units we are supposed to win on each bet with an updated labby line at the end of the day.

Thanks, alx, as you can see it's quite a pleasure discussing all this, especially when it can be a means of increasing bankrolls.

With on3's system it's pretty straightforward, there is a simple system rule for picking series of games and a labby strategy designed to gain profit on the high percentage of winnings. With the shutout games there are myriads of directions people's labby lines might go and many ways of picking games for betting as well. What you're asking for is basically one person posting their updated labby lines each day throughout the season. This person would have to devise and post a set of rules on picking games and managing the lines and then post the updates sticking to these exact rules. I was thinking about this at the end of last season as yes, it would streamline the process for everyone wanting to join, because one would only have to follow the numbers posted with no additional work involved. In the end I'm not able to do it simply because my labby strategy is too flexible - I'm not playing some of the series, I'm sometimes moving numbers around, sometimes playing three-strikes and dividing different percentages of losses every day. If I were to post my numbers I would have to spend hours on explaining where my stuff is coming from and at the moment this kind of work is impossible in my case due to time restraints.

I probably will repeat this ad nauseam in the thread: this is not a straightforward system with a clear money-making strategy. It's more about having some educated fun with numbers, practicing the labouchere and gaining profit in the meantime. Still, if anyone is willing to post their numbers every day, please do, it would be pretty cool and very useful.

[pagodo]

Here is the spreadsheet I created https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...zRXXzgyVGZrbVE

the very first page just shows how the system is doing wins/losses...both systems

Actually, teamprofit101 is doing just that, excellent work
I could link the document up in my daily update post, if you agree?

--
Glad to see you back, analyzer, are you using your chase method this year?
I'm not sure if you can make a profit on the year with five or six losses, but I might be wrong. Have you run the numbers?

[alxsamsonov]

Thanks, alx, as you can see it's quite a pleasure discussing all this, especially when it can be a means of increasing bankrolls.

With on3's system it's pretty straightforward, there is a simple system rule for picking series of games and a labby strategy designed to gain profit on the high percentage of winnings. With the shutout games there are myriads of directions people's labby lines might go and many ways of picking games for betting as well. What you're asking for is basically one person posting their updated labby lines each day throughout the season. This person would have to devise and post a set of rules on picking games and managing the lines and then post the updates sticking to these exact rules. I was thinking about this at the end of last season as yes, it would streamline the process for everyone wanting to join, because one would only have to follow the numbers posted with no additional work involved. In the end I'm not able to do it simply because my labby strategy is too flexible - I'm not playing some of the series, I'm sometimes moving numbers around, sometimes playing three-strikes and dividing different percentages of losses every day. If I were to post my numbers I would have to spend hours on explaining where my stuff is coming from and at the moment this kind of work is impossible in my case due to time restraints.

I probably will repeat this ad nauseam in the thread: this is not a straightforward system with a clear money-making strategy. It's more about having some educated fun with numbers, practicing the labouchere and gaining profit in the meantime. Still, if anyone is willing to post their numbers every day, please do, it would be pretty cool and very useful.

Yea I understand Pagodo, don't want to impose so I think I'll lay off this system until I can figure out how to run a labby on my own. Maybe next year, in the meantime good luck to you and everyone in this thread. I will continue to track it everyday. As I mentioned I have had success with on3's system and system integrity. Do you follow any other systems?

[Teamprofit101]

wow all of our games look like they aren't starting to well today

[cmdyrds]

guys are these plays straight or do you use the run line when possible?

[Teamprofit101]

Guys i need some help....I want to reinvent my Labby lines because since i wasnt doing it correctly at the beginning, they are to high even though i started adjusting them better.

here are my line for system 1, they include wins/losses for 4/9

1/6 9-9-9-18-18
2/5 8.75-8.75-8.75-8.75-8.75-8.75-20.10
3/4 7.5-7.5-7.5-7.5

System 2 with wins/losses of 4/9 included

1/6 x-9-x
2/5 8.75-8.75-8.75-8.75
3/4 7.5-7.5-7.5-7.5-23


ok so i want to reinvent all the lines, i want to move everything around so that the amounts aren't so high.

I was thinking of adding all the numbers, system 1 and system 2, and then diving by 2(two systems).
Then w/e i get divide it by 3(three lines) each system
Then divide by 4(four numbers per line)

If anybody has a better approach please let me know.......

[Teamprofit101]

I can't edit my post so i had to make a new post

Here is the updated spreadsheet with 4/9 results https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...zRXXzgyVGZrbVE

[Illusivecone]

Guys i need some help....I want to reinvent my Labby lines because since i wasnt doing it correctly at the beginning, they are to high even though i started adjusting them better.

here are my line for system 1, they include wins/losses for 4/9

1/6 9-9-9-18-18
2/5 8.75-8.75-8.75-8.75-8.75-8.75-20.10
3/4 7.5-7.5-7.5-7.5

System 2 with wins/losses of 4/9 included

1/6 x-9-x
2/5 8.75-8.75-8.75-8.75
3/4 7.5-7.5-7.5-7.5-23


ok so i want to reinvent all the lines, i want to move everything around so that the amounts aren't so high.

I was thinking of adding all the numbers, system 1 and system 2, and then diving by 2(two systems).
Then w/e i get divide it by 3(three lines) each system
Then divide by 4(four numbers per line)

If anybody has a better approach please let me know.......

Spread your risk throughout each line, for example:

1/6 9-9-9-18-18

Add the numbers together : 63
Divide by spaces: 5

New Line: 12.6/12.6/12.6/12.6/12.6

Turns 27 into 24, 10% reduction

I screwed up my Labby line too, only put 5 places to begin with instead of 8. A little too aggressive and its costing me right now with one system only hitting 30%.


DO NOT AVERAGE THEM ALL OUT BETWEEN SYSTEMS, it will lead to endless chasing. If you want to balance between lines in the same system, its possible.

[analyzer]

Pagodo - doing the 1/2 unit chase and after a loss I will spread over remaining units "to win" with the plan to stop at 100 units.

[bauerranch]

Checking in- thanks

[Teamprofit101]

Thanks for the advice.

I'm going try to be more selective with games until i can properly run the lines.

So for today the max i will stake is 10 units. The tail system has a better winning percentage so far, so i might just stick with that system for the day and see how i do.

[Teamprofit101]

am I the only one that needs pagodo or someone to do the updates?

I will invest sometime today to figure the next plays so I can have the sheets updated everyday by midnight or early morning

[pagodo]

I had freaky couple of days, updates should be posted a lot earlier from tomorrow onwards.

UPDATE
Tuesday, 4/10

Shutouts on Monday (4/9):
SF @ COL, 7-0
OAK vs KC, 1-0

---
System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out):

Results (4/9):
fade Kansas City, game 3
fade St Louis, game 2
fade NY Yankees, game 1
fade Ch White Sox, game 1

PLAYS (4/10):
fade Pittsburgh, game 3
fade St Louis, game 3
fade NY Yankees, game 2
fade Ch White Sox, game 2
fade Kansas City, game 1
--
(COL g1 on 4/11)


Game 1: 3-6
Game 2: 1-3
Game 3: 1-0
Game 4: -
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 1 = (5-0)


---
System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out):

Results (4/9):
tail Philadelphia, game 3
tail LA Angels, game 3
tail Milwaukee, game 2
tail Texas, game 1

PLAYS (4/10):
tail Philadelphia, game 4
tail Tampa Bay, game 1
tail Oakland, game 1
--
(SF g1 on 4/11)


Game 1: 4-4
Game 2: 2-2
Game 3: 1-1
Game 4: -
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 2 = (7-0)


---
Please go to posts #1 and #2 for detailed information on the strategy.
---

[Teamprofit101]

The tail philadelphia game 4 is a play for tomorrow...

[DollarBill10]

Hi Pagodo...Philly is off today. (or maybe I just can't see it this AM...which could possibly be the case).

[Illusivecone]

Not a good day, tomorrow looks much more favorable with the matchups

Well except for Baltimore....

[smoked1]

I understand the basics of this BUT, what are the rules in terms of starting a series within a series?

For example; Kan was a fade but Oak failed and now Kan is a tail. Do you play both series?

[cmdyrds]

I understand the basics of this BUT, what are the rules in terms of starting a series within a series?

For example; Kan was a fade but Oak failed and now Kan is a tail. Do you play both series?

great question as the only way to play both is use the run line. i asked above but still need an answer. can someone help us both out?

[timmyboy34243]

you will play both sides at their proper chase game level, the result will close one series while extending the other............

[cmdyrds]

much thanks

[DollarBill10]

Do we have a FADE on the Chicago White Sox today @ 12:05p since the game was POST. yesterday?

[Teamprofit101]

don't know if this is right or if i'm missing something...

somebody please confirm this for me

fade
Athletics GM1
Mariners GM1
White Sox GM2
Royals GM2
Yankees GM3
Cardinals GM4

Tail
Royals GM1
Rangers GM1
Athletics GM2
Rays GM2
Phillies GM4

[DollarBill10]

The only difference I have is Colorado as a FADE from 4-9.

Which would then make San Francisco a TAIL from 4-9.

Don't quote me though...1st time follower!!!

[timmyboy34243]

The only difference I have is Colorado as a FADE from 4-9.

agree with your additional play and i also have added SF Giants from 4 - 9.......

[ChiLLx]

The White Sox game is off the board at 5Dimes and has been for the last 30 minutes, strange.

[DollarBill10]

The White Sox game is off the board at 5Dimes and has been for the last 30 minutes, strange.

It's up right now.

[ChiLLx]

It's up right now.

It isn't for me, not sure why.

[DollarBill10]

917-918

[Teamprofit101]

Ok so this is what i have now...

fade
Athletics GM1
Mariners GM1
Rockies GM1
White Sox GM2
Royals GM2
Yankees GM3
Cardinals GM4

Tail
Royals GM1
Rangers GM1
Giants GM1
Athletics GM2
Rays GM2
Phillies GM4

[thelimit0310]

Damn looks like we missed some games already! I'm just going to roll with what Teamprofit posted, looks like it checks out

[pagodo]

Sorry for the Phillies mistake yesterday and another late update.
I'm getting ready to move abroad next week and it's been a btch the last few days.
A very bad run for the shutout games actually, it will obviously all smooth out sooner than later.

Here we go:
Wednesday, 4/11

Shutouts on Tuesday (4/10):
TEX vs SEA, 1-0
KC @ OAK, 3-0

---
System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out):

Results (4/10):
fade Pittsburgh, game 3
fade St Louis, game 3
fade NY Yankees, game 2
fade Kansas City, game 1

PLAYS (4/11):
fade St Louis, game 4
fade NY Yankees, game 3
fade Ch White Sox, game 2
fade Kansas City, game 2
fade Colorado, game 1
fade Seattle, game 1
fade Oakland, game 1


Game 1: 3-7
Game 2: 1-4
Game 3: 2-1
Game 4: -
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 1 = (6-0)


---
System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out):

Results (4/10):
tail Tampa Bay, game 1
tail Oakland, game 1

PLAYS (4/11):
tail Philadelphia, game 4
tail Tampa Bay, game 2
tail Oakland, game 2
tail San Francisco, game 1
tail Texas, game 1
tail Kansas City, game 1


Game 1: 4-6
Game 2: 2-2
Game 3: 1-1
Game 4: -
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 2 = (7-0)


---
Please go to posts #1 and #2 for detailed information on the strategy.
---