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  • No coincidences
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    • 01-18-10
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    #1
    The Yankees opened at +150 for Friday's game
    +150!!! I know Nova sucks and Weaver is Weaver, but come on. It's going to be a huge public dog play I'm sure, but I'll have a hard time laying off of that -- even though the line basically speaks for itself.

    Another bullshit line -- Twins are +138 now after opening at +110. I might have to go with my 20-plus cent line movement fade with that one. Pavano's been a gascan on the road, but a rookie SP at -147 against him? Ridiculous. Again, I'm sure the public will take the Twins and the line is probably again telling me it's a setup, but goddam.
  • HoulihansTX
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    • 02-12-09
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    #2
    Pavano Sucks. The Yanks should not be +150 against anyone on the West coast, outside of King Felix.
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    • gilbert91016
      SBR MVP
      • 04-29-09
      • 1479

      #3
      Got to go whit Yankees at +$$$ just on principal alone
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      • ColdBeerHere
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        • 03-25-11
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        #4
        I was looking at taking them RL

        With those odds RL not needed
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        • MrShrink
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          • 01-19-10
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          #5
          It must be because A-rod's cousins not gonna be around.
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          • BrigadierPudding
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-07-09
            • 617

            #6
            Weaver's career ERA vs the Yanks is 5.88, and he hasn't won a start since April (LAA is 1-5 his L6 starts).

            Value certainly on the Yanks.

            LAA has won 20 of 28 at home in this series, so there's that.
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            • nickdotcom
              SBR Sharp
              • 12-13-10
              • 401

              #7
              I hate the yankees but even I would take em at that price
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              • No coincidences
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                • 01-18-10
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                #8
                Originally posted by gilbert91016
                Got to go whit Yankees at +$$$ just on principal alone
                That's what I'm thinking, even though it's as square as square gets.

                The Angels are 13-13 at home, and they're coming back from a road trip. Weaver has given up at least 3 runs against the Yankees in seven straight starts (40.1 IP, 30 ER, 6.73 ERA), including 12 ER allowed in his last three starts at home (17 IP, 6.35 ERA) against them.

                I'm sorry but even if the Angels win, this is literally the dumbest line of the year.
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                • ColdBeerHere
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-25-11
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                  #9
                  Angels only average 3.31 runs/game at home....NYY avg 5.79 runs/game on the road (#1 in the majors)

                  Might not be much to look at here

                  ***Also LAA does not have that great of a bullpen...If yanks can get to weaver early it might be all over
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                  • DemoralizdDreamr
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-04-11
                    • 4319

                    #10
                    141 at pinny, will likely be around 125ish near gametime. Heres ur chance.
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                    • DemoralizdDreamr
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                      • 02-04-11
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                      #11
                      Granderson has 4 HRs against weaver, Arod has 4, Mark and Nick have 2 each.
                      The angels have never faced Nova so i think the yanks should be +110 at max if not favs. Interesting line.
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                      • DemoralizdDreamr
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                        • 02-04-11
                        • 4319

                        #12
                        One thing to note: Weaver was absolutely spectacular against the twins in his last game and he got extra day of rest so that may have been considered in the line.
                        Few trends to consider:
                        Angels are 4-0 in their last 4 during game 1 of a series.
                        Angels are 5-0 in their last 5 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
                        Angels are 5-1 in their last 6 games following a loss.
                        Angels are 4-1 in their last 5 Friday games.
                        Yankees are 8-21 in the last 29 meetings in Los Angeles.
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                        • HoulihansTX
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                          • 02-12-09
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by DemoralizdDreamr
                          141 at pinny, will likely be around 125ish near gametime. Heres ur chance.
                          I will give you 2 SBR points daily, for the next two months if they drop lower than +130.
                          You do the same, if the ML doesnt drop.

                          Deal???
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                          • DemoralizdDreamr
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                            • 02-04-11
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                            I will give you 2 SBR points daily, for the next two months if they drop lower than +130.
                            You do the same, if the ML doesnt drop.

                            Deal???
                            We cant give or receive points since we aren't pros.
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                            • No coincidences
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                              • 01-18-10
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by DemoralizdDreamr
                              One thing to note: Weaver was absolutely spectacular against the twins in his last game and he got extra day of rest so that may have been considered in the line.
                              Few trends to consider:
                              Angels are 4-0 in their last 4 during game 1 of a series.
                              Angels are 5-0 in their last 5 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
                              Angels are 5-1 in their last 6 games following a loss.
                              Angels are 4-1 in their last 5 Friday games.
                              Yankees are 8-21 in the last 29 meetings in Los Angeles.
                              Everyone is spectacular against the Twins.

                              I understand these trends, but even with Nova pitching in this spot, the Yankees shouldn't be more than +120 here.
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                              • MrShrink
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                                • 01-19-10
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                                #16
                                2 pts per transaction for non-pros
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                                • DemoralizdDreamr
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by No coincidences

                                  Everyone is spectacular against the Twins.

                                  I understand these trends, but even with Nova pitching in this spot, the Yankees shouldn't be more than +120 here.
                                  I know what you are saying but we all now Vegas would not make a mistake on a line with such a big name team. I think the square pick here may be the Yanks. Im leaning the angels if i can get them around -135.
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                                  • Cuseyboyy
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 01-07-11
                                    • 145

                                    #18
                                    this will be one of the top plays tomorrow. everyone will be on the yankees. i think tomorrow public will get buried. take the angels or stay away.. i seem to try to stay away from betting yankees games. but these guys have been on the westcoast for a few series in a row. prob miss the big apple and arod is prob heart broken after the cameron diaz split.
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                                    • DemoralizdDreamr
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                      I will give you 2 SBR points daily, for the next two months if they drop lower than +130.
                                      You do the same, if the ML doesnt drop.

                                      Deal???
                                      Ill take the angels moneyline vs you on the yanks rather than the line movement. If the angels win u pay me 2 points per day for 45 days or i will pay u 2 points a day for 60 days.
                                      We kool?
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                                      • HoulihansTX
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                                        #20
                                        No Deal.

                                        You are giving me even odds, when the team you will have is favored to win more than 55% of the time.

                                        That would not be a veteran move on my part.

                                        BOL
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                                        • lunchbawks
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                                          • 01-31-10
                                          • 12873

                                          #21
                                          Weaver is too good. Yankees are too good. I'm staying far away
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                                          • DemoralizdDreamr
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                                            • 02-04-11
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                            No Deal.

                                            You are giving me even odds, when the team you will have is favored to win more than 55% of the time.

                                            That would not be a veteran move on my part.

                                            BOL
                                            Hows that u end up paying me 90 points and I end up paying 120????
                                            Pretty sure theres a difference between 90 and 120.
                                            But okay its all good. Ill just bet with the sbr sportbook.
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                                            • HoulihansTX
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                                              • 02-12-09
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                                              #23
                                              I did not read your whole post. You are correct, the odds given are fair.

                                              But please do bet @SBR book, b/c I'm not putting my azz on the line with ISuck NoStrike.
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                                              • Lord and Master
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                                                • 05-31-11
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                +150!!! I know Nova sucks and Weaver is Weaver, but come on. It's going to be a huge public dog play I'm sure
                                                it sounds like you are assuming lines are always inflated for the yankees because the public will always be on them, thats an incorrect assumption......if you had bet on the yankees every game for the last 5 years, you would have lost alot less money betting on them than against them, betting on the yankees was near a breakeven proposition and betting against them turned out a siginificant negative ROI
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                                                • No coincidences
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Lord and Master
                                                  it sounds like you are assuming lines are always inflated for the yankees because the public will always be on them, thats an incorrect assumption.
                                                  Where did I say that? If the line was inflated in the Yankees' favor for Friday, they sure as hell wouldn't be in the +140-150 range.
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                                                  • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                    • 01-01-09
                                                    • 13253

                                                    #26
                                                    Yankees are hot on this west coast trip.....getting contributions and bombs from everyone. It sure looks like a trap, but you gotta roll with the Yankees here and if they lose, they lose. Nova's capable of having a good or even great game against a lineup that scares nobody. The only thing really holding me back from betting huge on this is the fact that the Yankees usually suck at the Angels for some reason.....I'm a Yankees fan and have seen us for as long as I can remember get beaten up in Anaheim.

                                                    Either way, I'm rolling with the Yankees at +150, too much value to pass up here
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                                                    • HoulihansTX
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                                                      • 02-12-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Yes Yankees lines are always inflated. Please don't try and argue this. Every game.

                                                      Nova has been -200 twice this year. Phil Hughes was getting the same lines last year, and earlier this year.

                                                      The line for Fridays game is a correction by linemakers finally giving into the fact that Ivan Nova is a below average pitcher. Now ask yourself, how many below average pitchers have been -200 twice in one year? Only the Yankees ....
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                                                      • Lord and Master
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                                                        • 05-31-11
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                        Where did I say that?
                                                        nm, i misinterpreted i see you meant because yanks and the high spread, not just yanks

                                                        If the line was inflated in the Yankees' favor for Friday, they sure as hell wouldn't be in the +140-150 range.
                                                        not necessarily true
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                                                        • Lord and Master
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                          Yes Yankees lines are always inflated. Please don't try and argue this. Every game
                                                          this is flat out wrong
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                                                          • drfunkmaster
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                                                            • 11-29-08
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                                                            #30
                                                            yanks win!!!!
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                                                            • BrigadierPudding
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                                                              • 11-07-09
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                                                              #31
                                                              FWIW, Nova vs Felix last Saturday opened Yankees +122. It closed +136.
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                                                              • HoulihansTX
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                                                                • 02-12-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Yanks have the most inflated home lines in baseball. They have one elite pitcher, and a below average bullpen. Their hitting is what makes them special, nothing else.

                                                                Actually if you want to say that Yankee home ML's are high b/c linemakers just ignore who is pitching. Then I will say I'm wrong, but Nova/Garcia/Hughes/ anywhere near -175 on planet Earth is an inflated number.
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                                                                • lunchbawks
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                                                                  • 01-31-10
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  don't bet against weaver. guy is a freak

                                                                  NYY are 1-7 in their last 8 Fri. games.
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                                                                  • HoulihansTX
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I rarely bet against Weaver. Nevertheless I have no problem betting against the other 8 players that will be on the field in Angvels uniforms. Weaver has not won a game in a month, and his teammates have struggled hitting against lesser pitchers. If that's even possible, b/c Nova has not pitched well for the last few weeks either.
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                                                                    • CarolinaDaze
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                                                                      • 11-07-09
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Cuseyboyy
                                                                      this will be one of the top plays tomorrow. everyone will be on the yankees. i think tomorrow public will get buried. take the angels or stay away.. i seem to try to stay away from betting yankees games. but these guys have been on the westcoast for a few series in a row. prob miss the big apple and arod is prob heart broken after the cameron diaz split.
                                                                      Well guess that decides it Cameron Diaz does got it good, enough to mess the whole Yankees team up. Wish oneday i have that problem.
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