The Yankees opened at +150 for Friday's game

[Lord and Master]

Yanks have the most inflated home lines in baseball.

you can keep repeating this but that won't make it true

but Nova/Garcia/Hughes/ anywhere near -175 on planet Earth is an inflated number.

no the books are just smarter than you plain and simple. they see what you don't. In weaver's last start he was at home against the twins who had swarzak starting, his 2nd start all year...and pinnacle opened the line at -140.

pinnacle thinks the angels have a better chance vs yankees with nova than vs the twins with a pitcher with 1 previous start this year(gave up 5 earned) and who in 11 career starts all last year had an ERA over 5........now what do you make of that? these are a week apart. me? i have no ******* clue

edit: btw yanks are the play here regardless of what it looks like

[MoneyLineDawg]

The line for Fridays game is a correction by linemakers finally giving into the fact that Ivan Nova is a below average pitcher. Now ask yourself, how many below average pitchers have been -200 twice in one year? Only the Yankees ....

They also have the best offense in baseball.....It's not just because they are "The Yankees"

[HoulihansTX]

Weaver was @ Target field for than start. He opened -150, and closed -167.

I dont understand what your last paragraph is asking.

I totally understand why lines-maker make the Yanks ML's inflated. They ignore who is pitching. They respect the capabilities the Yanks have @the plate. Yankees hit lefties, and righties @ an elite level. Also the Yanks have a huge following, and books get heavy action on the them no matter who they are playing. That alolows the lines maker to pad the Yanks ML's.

Though from my perspective I value Bullpens more than any other aspect of baseball. Yankees bullpen is average, and Angels bullpen is horrific. If Weaver doesnt go 8 innings, then Angels chances of winning is well below 40% from my perspective. That Twins game is an example of how helpless the Angels are without Weaver on the mound. Weaver pitches 9 innings of shutout ball, while his team is being no hit during his whole performance. The game goes into extra innings, and the Angels bullpen immediately gives up the losing run.


Trust me, I know why the Yanks lines are high

[oChRoNiCo]

yeah NYY +150 looks too nice to ignore Weaver has been very beatable after his 6-0 start fwiw.

[Lord and Master]

Weaver was @ Target field for than start. He opened -150, and closed -167.

yes i was wrong it was in minnesota, and it opened at -140 on pinnacle...still doesn't make sense to me weaver away vs swarzak and the twins -140 but weaver at home vs nova and yanks -160. i'll admit i'm a complete loss for why it makes sense, anyone care to offer up a theory?

I totally understand why lines-maker make the Yanks ML's inflated.

again, you can keep repeating it but that won't make it true

They ignore who is pitching.

i should stop reading/responding to you after this one

Trust me, I know why the Yanks lines are high

then start betting against them every game its guaranteed value!!! oh wait you would've been obliterated doing that the past 5 years

[HoulihansTX]

then start betting against them every game its guaranteed value!!! oh wait you would've been obliterated doing that the past 5 years

Wow dude...

That statement above is why the Yanks lines are inflated. B/c they have a heavy amount of action coming in on them everyday. Mostly square money. Yanks were negative Units last year on the ML, and are a mere +0.20Units this Year on the ML. If I bet against them this year I would be down no more than -1.5Units.

I'm going to guess you were not aware of this either, but the Lakers have been negative Units for the past three years on the spread. And Guess what about the Lakers.... their home points spreads are inflated for the same reasons stated above, b/c of the amount of square money they get on them. Day after day. Rain, sleet or snow. People bet this popular teams b/c they are the "better team". That's how a book gains the advantage on squares, by inflating the line.


And Pinny doesnt set opening lines in bases. Bookmaker/BetCris/The Greek do the dirty work.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Wow dude...

That statement above is why the Yanks lines are inflated B/c they have a heavy amount of action coming in on them everyday. Mostly square money. Yanks were negative Units last year on the ML, and are a mere +0.20Units this Year on the ML. If I bet against them this year I would be down no more than -1.5Units.

I'm going to guess you were not aware of this either, but the Lakers have been negative Units for the past three years on the spread. And Guess what about the Lakers.... their home points spreads are inflated for the same reasons stated above, b/c of the amount of square money they get on them. Day after day. Rain, sleet or snow. People bet this popular teams b/c they are the "better team". That's how a book gains the advantage on squares, by inflating the line.


And Pinny doesnt set opening lines in bases. Bookmaker/BetCris/The Greek do the dirty work.

Being that you break out around even betting on Yankees long-term,I would argue that the lines are actually correct,and not "inflated"

If they were so inflated,betting against the Yankees long-term should be far more profitable

[Lord and Master]

Yanks were negative Units last year on the ML

and betting on their opponents would've lost you money also. How about we look at the last 5 years? betting on the yankees would've achieved an ROI of -0.3% betting against them would've achieved an ROI of over -6%. IF THE LINES WERE INFLATED THIS WOULD NOT BE THE CASE IT WOULD BE REVERSED

That's how a book gains the advantage on squares, by inflating the line.

no they make money because people like you believe this to be true

Being that you break out around even betting on Yankees long-term,I would argue that the lines are actually correct,and not "inflated"

If they were so inflated,betting against the Yankees long-term should be far more profitable

[Lord and Master]

houilhans quick question for you....do you think yankees home lines are inflated too? and if so would you then assume that betting the yankees every home game for say the past 8 years would've lost you a ton of money?

guess what if you bet the yankees at home every single game for the 8 past years YOU MADE MONEY. you got absolutely hosed had you bet on the visiting team

[tatddy]

At +128 all of a sudden. Ruh oh

[Galante118]

so how much are u putting on the angels lol

[Lord and Master]

41% of public on angels....pitching influences dumb money more than teams do and ironically the dumb money thinks its the other way around

[tonyp0387]

Baseball is a square sport and were entering June .You have to wait till August and September if you want to bet against the Yanks as a dog. Just bet the obvious this month and get ahead. The line is high to try to confuse you on purpose they make this stupid high line so people that think there sharp will say wow Angels are -160 against the Yanks they must be the play Im gonna play the Angels. Yankees are the play

[tonyp0387]

I remember last year Texas was -170 with Cliff Lee on the mound and i took Texas like an ass thinking wow they gotta win look at the line. I learned my lesson Yankees or nothing.

[No coincidences]

Weaver was @ Target field for than start. He opened -150, and closed -167.

I dont understand what your last paragraph is asking.

I totally understand why lines-maker make the Yanks ML's inflated. They ignore who is pitching. They respect the capabilities the Yanks have @the plate. Yankees hit lefties, and righties @ an elite level. Also the Yanks have a huge following, and books get heavy action on the them no matter who they are playing. That alolows the lines maker to pad the Yanks ML's.

Though from my perspective I value Bullpens more than any other aspect of baseball. Yankees bullpen is average, and Angels bullpen is horrific. If Weaver doesnt go 8 innings, then Angels chances of winning is well below 40% from my perspective. That Twins game is an example of how helpless the Angels are without Weaver on the mound. Weaver pitches 9 innings of shutout ball, while his team is being no hit during his whole performance. The game goes into extra innings, and the Angels bullpen immediately gives up the losing run.


Trust me, I know why the Yanks lines are high

Two words: Fernando Rodney.

Let me just put it this way -- if you take the Angels tonight, you better hope for a complete game from Weaver.

[No coincidences]

41% of public on angels....pitching influences dumb money more than teams do and ironically the dumb money thinks its the other way around

RL or ML? Because my numbers have the Yankees ML getting pounded.

[Lord and Master]

RL or ML? Because my numbers have the Yankees ML getting pounded.

ml, http://www.thespread.com/mlb-basebal...-betting-chart

[No coincidences]

ml, http://www.thespread.com/mlb-basebal...-betting-chart

Where do they get those numbers from? Are they accurate?

[BigDan]

I remember last year Texas was -170 with Cliff Lee on the mound and i took Texas like an ass thinking wow they gotta win look at the line. I learned my lesson Yankees or nothing.

i almost always go with this when they are dogs or really short favs. usually dont play them either way but crazy to go against them at this kind of price imho.

[Lord and Master]

contributing books are 5dimes, SI, betus, caribsports, sportsbook, wagerweb.....its actually run+ml i think

[terrortwylight]

this one has got trap written all over it but the fact of the matter is you're getting the yankees at plus odds against the angels. weaver has OFFICIALLY cooled off and it's pretty universally accepted that NYY scores a lot more than LAA.

[Lord and Master]

this one has got trap written all over it but the fact of the matter is you're getting the yankees at plus odds against the angels. weaver has OFFICIALLY cooled off and it's pretty universally accepted that NYY scores a lot more than LAA.

so it was a trap a +150, but now thats its +130 is still a "trap"?

[Lord and Master]

does anyone have any idea why weaver was -140 away last week vs twins/swarzak and -160 this week at home vs twins/yanks? this i can't wrap my head around

[BigDan]

this one has got trap written all over it but the fact of the matter is you're getting the yankees at plus odds against the angels. weaver has OFFICIALLY cooled off and it's pretty universally accepted that NYY scores a lot more than LAA.

Argument could be made that every game against oak was a "trap", i mean those lines were crazy considering the yanks own that squad, yet "sharp" ppl kept taking the A's. Case could also be made that A's had a edge in starting pitching every game of that series as well.

[leetreaper]

+115 at sportsinterraction, f sick...

[thebestthereis]

mirror mirror on the wall sportsinteraction the squarest book of them all

[bozeman]

yanks at +150 is always tempting!!!

[yisman]

I think it's about right. I was watching a game earlier this week and they mentioned the matchup and I was figuring Angels -150.

[Sawyer]

I'm on Yanks +143.

[RockyMiavia]

Regardless of how hot Weaver is currently at, +150 for the Yanks is hard to pass up. The lines has dropped and the Yanks is currently at +128. Yankees hits lots of home runs and they have patience hitters. One swing at a bat with 2 men on that gives you three runs. LOLz I don't know if they'll win but I like the value in this play. I'll wager half of a unit on this game. I'm a small/recreational player after all.
Rocky Miavia

[LGHT]

Angels role the useless NYY bats.

Hitting weaver is like trying to catch a fly with a pair of chopsticks.

[DemoralizdDreamr]

141 at pinny, will likely be around 125ish near gametime. Heres ur chance.

Totally called it, houlihansTX

[thebestthereis]

yanks are nice and square tonight in a cute little package for certain, but tough to pass up. good luck!

[HoulihansTX]

Totally called it, houlihansTX

You should be sitting on a nice 15 cent middle.

NYY +150 & Angels -135.

[miyakuza]

Yanks were basically dogs the whole Oakland series and look, Oakland got swept.

Everyone and their momma knows the Yanks ML will lose value after opening +150.

It's weird having Weaver opening up that high as shitty as he's been, right?