Exactly. I basically cap my own games and then use GG as a reference as well. I liked the ChiSox tonight and wanted to know if GG was on them for at least 5* which he was, but from what I have seen in baseball, he has been kind of rough in day games, So I fade him or no play him most times in the day, but he has been pretty darn dominant in night games. Like I said, I like using his picks in conjoinment with mine, but now that baseball is 50 games in and we actually no better what teams are made of, I started picking series and It has worked out well the last week, but that's as long as I have been doing it, just these last two series, 2 games per series.
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wandalsh84SBR High Roller
- 09-02-10
- 235
#5776Comment -
wandalsh84SBR High Roller
- 09-02-10
- 235
#5777GG, sorry if you took any disrespect, none was intended, just frustrated myself with the loss, not betting wise, but the Bulls actually losing vs these f*cks.
Keep killing the MLB, GLComment -
phillybadboySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-09
- 9383
#5778whare i rlphieComment -
TygahSBR Hustler
- 09-20-09
- 65
#5780From what i've seen, GG has very different methods in capping MLB and NBA... he seems to have a system that he goes with for MLB where he looks and makes picks based on the lines that books release.. I'm not sure how he does his NBA capping but it seems like he tries to predict a winner based on the teams instead of doing what he does in MLB.
Always seems like he'll have a monster day in MLB but his NBA cancels it all out.. think i'm gonna just stick w/bases w/GG.
NBA is too full of bullshit anyway. Been burned way too many times, and I have no idea why I keep coming back and betting on this damn sport :P
Anyways, I think you guys should ease up on him, we're all here for the same reason, right? Better luck tomorrow GGComment -
LordCCSBR Sharp
- 01-28-11
- 417
#5781Boys,
Chicago was up 12 with min. to play?? How can taking Chicago be such a bad bet is beyond me?? They lead from start and for like 45 min of the 48. I would take the same bet over and over as it will hit.
What happened tonight & on Monday with Oklahoma in my eyes in an anomaly. Over the 1,000+ games played this year in the NBA, how many teams have blown 12-15 point leads in the final 3-4 min? I would hazard to guess maybe 3-4.
This just happened to occur twice in 4 days, I would love to see the odds of that by a sportsbook.Comment -
hardballSBR Sharp
- 12-02-10
- 435
#5782Boys,
Chicago was up 12 with min. to play?? How can taking Chicago be such a bad bet is beyond me?? They lead from start and for like 45 min of the 48. I would take the same bet over and over as it will hit.
What happened tonight & on Monday with Oklahoma in my eyes in an anomaly. Over the 1,000+ games played this year in the NBA, how many teams have blown 12-15 point leads in the final 3-4 min? I would hazard to guess maybe 3-4.
This just happened to occur twice in 4 days, I would love to see the odds of that by a sportsbook.
With 1 min 30 sec left: 10%
Ouch. Definition of a bad beat.Comment -
twelvejewelzSBR MVP
- 01-29-11
- 2388
#5783Something i found on another site but i totally agree with it. There is to much money to be made if miami wins everything and the games are fixed 100%.Fact is 4 billion dollars plus for a miami win. If dirk and the mavs win what do they get, nothing?? A few million in endorsements? The NBA is fixed and its clear the way the officiating was going the entire series and its a sad day in the NBA. This is probably my last season watching this wwe piece of sh!t , sh!t show pathetic debacle "sport" .When it comes down to it no one cares about dirk and he brings really minimal revenue or popularity to the NBA so keep that in mind.
The Heat will not lose against the Mavericks.
When you have Charles Barkley getting phone calls from Nike, and Nike is asking Charles Barkley "why do you keep putting down Lebron? Go easy on Lebron" then you know there is something deeper than basketball going on here. Nike wants to protect their investment. Lebron has more endorsements than any player in the entire NBA.
Nike is going to make over 4 billion dollars if Lebron James and the Heat win the finals against the Mavericks. You really think that a corporation like Nike is going to allow the Dallas Mavericks to get in the way of making 4 billion dollars? Do you think these companies give a crap about the authenticity and fairness of the game? There's BILLIONS of dollars at stake here.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...48484/29422110
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...ion-boost.html
http://empowerednews.net/lebron-jame...it-all/188480/
James has endorsement contracts with Nike, Sprite (owned by Coca Cola), McDonald's, Glacéau, Bubblicious, Upper Deck, and State Farm. You have major corporations foaming at the lips for Lebron to win a championship. You're telling me there's not a single crooked person in any of these companies that will try to sway a championship?
Dwyane Wade is also part of the Nike Family and poses as a superspy in commercials for the Jordan Brand this season. In addition, he has endorsements with Gatorade, Lincoln, Staples, Sean John, Pepperidge Farm and T-Mobile. Source: http://www.octagonfirstcall.com/cele...0-2011-season/
I hate saying that the referees will win games for teams. But when you have this many corporations involved and you have billions and billions and billions of potential dollars that could be made from Lebron winning, I would not be surprised if some referees are paid off.
The NBA Championship has been bought and sold by Lebron James' endorsement companies. Expect the referees to call a billion fouls on the Mavericks.
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Is the Marketing director of Nike a good source for you? Cause it was a quote from him. Also if Bloomberg and Forbes are not good enough sources for you, then I don't know what is.
Nike is going to make 4 billion internationally if Lebron wins a championship.
Here's a quote from one of the articles:
"LeBron James is already generating millions of dollars for Nike Inc. and as his stature grows, so does the money for the sports endorser.
According to a former marketing director for Nike, Terry Rhoads, the 26-year old LeBron James will add as much as $4 billion in revenue from China alone if he finally wins an NBA championship with his new team the Miami Heat.
“LeBron is white-hot with the Chinese basketball-loving youth, but his popularity and influence outside of that circle is limited,” Rhoads told Bloomberg, who now heads Zou Marketing. “One reason is the lack of titles.”
That may not be a problem for much longer. The Heat are heavy title favorites this season and only three wins away from an NBA Finals berth. Then it will just be four more wins until LeBron James adds “NBA champion” to his resume which includes two Most Valuable Player awards and an Olympic gold medal.
James needs to win multiple titles in order to transcend his sport just like what Michael Jordan did when he won six titles with the Chicago Bulls in the 1990s. If he is able to pull it off, then his endorsements, including that of Nike, will even be gargantuan than what it is now."
Nike, Coca-Cola, McDonald’s and a handful of other companies are currently paying LeBron James approximately $30 million annually to promote their products and services.Comment -
RedscotSBR MVP
- 05-16-11
- 2571
#5784Boys,
Chicago was up 12 with min. to play?? How can taking Chicago be such a bad bet is beyond me?? They lead from start and for like 45 min of the 48. I would take the same bet over and over as it will hit.
What happened tonight & on Monday with Oklahoma in my eyes in an anomaly. Over the 1,000+ games played this year in the NBA, how many teams have blown 12-15 point leads in the final 3-4 min? I would hazard to guess maybe 3-4.
This just happened to occur twice in 4 days, I would love to see the odds of that by a sportsbook.
Amen, it was a good play. Remember, these are G-$'s plays, he just shares them. He took a big hit this series too, as well as having to feel responsible for all the losers who don't know how to manage their bankroll. Tough spot for someone who is just sharing their work. If you don't like his plays fade em' or better yet, put in your own time and cap your own games.
G-$, incredible week in the NBA, what are ya gonna do. Shit happens, and some things can't be accounted for in gambling. I appreciate you coming in here and sharing with us even though it opens you up to needless criticism.
Lets go get it today.
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dlightnerRestricted User
- 04-30-08
- 401
#5785Its tuff to cap playoffs I have seen it all in my 40 years gamblingComment -
funnymanSBR Wise Guy
- 05-06-10
- 606
#5786Tough break, GG.Get it all back this week-endComment -
wandalsh84SBR High Roller
- 09-02-10
- 235
#5787Taking Chicago bad bet = no....bad beat = yes.
I don't think anyone claimed it was a bad bet and nobody really criticized GG. Most of the conversation was between me and the others on here. I was criticizing people losing a bet and then making excuses for it, like the refs cheating for Miami. That's all, GG didn't come in here and say anything, so it was nothing against him. That loss sucked bad as a bulls fan and for bettors, but it was bad luck, take it and move on.
Like I said before, imo if you handicap correctly then the bad luck and the good luck will even out and you should be profitable. For every game you have like last night, you will have another in which you were on the other end of a comeback like that for the win, so long as you are making good bets as GG does.
GG has said it and others too, cappers go on hot and cold streaks but in the long haul, GG has been profitable.Last edited by wandalsh84; 05-27-11, 08:10 AM.Comment -
goldengreekSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-25-07
- 8340
#5788KEEP YOUR HEADS UP GUYS
I SEE A STRONG MLB CARD TONIGHT
UNFORTUNATELY SOME ARE A BIT JUICY
BLIND EYE:
TAMPA
TEXAS
SEATTLE
COLORADO
MINNY
DODGERS
??? DET
???? SD
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goldengreekSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-25-07
- 8340
#5789BOTH FOLLOWERS AND BASHERS PLZ READ
Instead of quoting 40 posts and responding to each individually:
Yes the bulls choked in the last 3 minutes. Yes the 18-3 run wasnt aided by the officialls
BUT ( !!!!!!! )
The refs kept the heat in the game the entire fuking game until they made their run
When the bulls built a 8-11 point lead the Heat got 10 straight points from the free throw line in the first 4 minutes of the fourth quarter
If the refs didnt keep miami in the game. the bulls would have extended the lead to 15-20 ponts and the heat would have packed it in and waited to end the series in game 6
Also... isnt the NBA famous for giving superstars preferential treat ment and calls AND being biased for the home teams ?
I would say if you took a random batch of 1,000 NBA games over the last 30 yrs the home team would have the free throw advantage in 90 + % of those games
THE HEAT HAD TWICE AS MANY FREE THROW ATTEMPTS THAN CHICAGO ..IN CHICAGO ( !!! ) IN 3 GAMES !!!
How is that possible when the bulls have a much bigger and talented frontline ?
Slashers ? Miami has lebron and Wade... bulls have the Rose and Deng
Its utter bullshit
Rose , Deng , Boozer and Noah with 5 fouls ?? At home ???!!!!
After the league saw the bulls front court dominate the Heat in Game 1 .. they constantly had the bulls Bigs in foul trouble from Game 2 on. They took the bulls biggest advantage over the heat and took it away. Every game 5 mins in Noah had 2 fouls.
Taj comes ina nd they give him 2 fouls in 2-3 mins
This happened in every game from Game 2 on and Tom Donoghy predicted this was gonna happen after GAME 1...and the son of a bitch was right.Last edited by goldengreek; 05-27-11, 08:36 AM.Comment -
Lyon_BCSBR Rookie
- 04-10-11
- 21
#5790Wow, Greek...I just tried my hand at reading some games and am glad to see I have most of those...I have a question tho...I'm new to betting and very inexperienced with baseball...I know some of you have said you cap your own games then look to gg for assurance or assistance with your plays....but how do you guys cap baseball? Is it based on line movement...I've heard sites like sportsbook spy brought up, is somewhere like that a good starting point? Sorry for bein longwinded but I am really curious how the majority of experienced cappers handle bases
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Boxing ChampSBR MVP
- 03-11-11
- 3358
#5791Wow, Greek...I just tried my hand at reading some games and am glad to see I have most of those...I have a question tho...I'm new to betting and very inexperienced with baseball...I know some of you have said you cap your own games then look to gg for assurance or assistance with your plays....but how do you guys cap baseball? Is it based on line movement...I've heard sites like sportsbook spy brought up, is somewhere like that a good starting point? Sorry for bein longwinded but I am really curious how the majority of experienced cappers handle bases
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hockey216SBR MVP
- 08-20-08
- 4583
#5792detroit is good play tim wakefield sucks. thats a good line on detroit too. redsox have been hitting better lately, but i think wakefield is awful. he only has 1 pitch - knuckleballComment -
doogtonmaiSBR Sharp
- 04-09-11
- 496
#5793Wow, you sure have a positive attitude after losing $18,000+ in the NBA last week! Very admirable. Still on the train, GG. Let's crush those bases tonite.Comment -
Galante118SBR High Roller
- 04-26-11
- 220
#5794miami is gonna take the entire thing. the nba is a joke, they wont let miami lose. goldengreek your the man keep cappin, your a beast and we all appreciate what u do!Comment -
Lyon_BCSBR Rookie
- 04-10-11
- 21
#5795I know that...I'm not asking him to lay out his complete method I'm just asking anyone in this thread who is experienced what are some factors that play into how they cap...like line movement, home/road, ballpark tendencies, etc. I'm just trying to be more educated instead of blindly tailing without knowledge ( not saying tailing gg hasn't been profitable for me)Comment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#5796BOTH FOLLOWERS AND BASHERS PLZ READ
Instead of quoting 40 posts and responding to each individually:
Yes the bulls choked in the last 3 minutes. Yes the 18-3 run wasnt aided by the officialls
BUT ( !!!!!!! )
The refs kept the heat in the game the entire fuking game until they made their run
When the bulls built a 8-11 point lead the Heat got 10 straight points from the free throw line in the first 4 minutes of the fourth quarter
If the refs didnt keep miami in the game. the bulls would have extended the lead to 15-20 ponts and the heat would have packed it in and waited to end the series in game 6
Also... isnt the NBA famous for giving superstars preferential treat ment and calls AND being biased for the home teams ?
I would say if you took a random batch of 1,000 NBA games over the last 30 yrs the home team would have the free throw advantage in 90 + % of those games
THE HEAT HAD TWICE AS MANY FREE THROW ATTEMPTS THAN CHICAGO ..IN CHICAGO ( !!! ) IN 3 GAMES !!!
How is that possible when the bulls have a much bigger and talented frontline ?
Slashers ? Miami has lebron and Wade... bulls have the Rose and Deng
Its utter bullshit
Rose , Deng , Boozer and Noah with 5 fouls ?? At home ???!!!!
After the league saw the bulls front court dominate the Heat in Game 1 .. they constantly had the bulls Bigs in foul trouble from Game 2 on. They took the bulls biggest advantage over the heat and took it away. Every game 5 mins in Noah had 2 fouls.
Taj comes ina nd they give him 2 fouls in 2-3 mins
This happened in every game from Game 2 on and Tom Donoghy predicted this was gonna happen after GAME 1...and the son of a bitch was right.
I completely agree with your analysis... the question is, if you noticed this happening since game 2... why continue to bet the bulls? better yet, WHY NOT JUST BET THE HEAT??Seems pretty simple.. if you cant beat the refs, then join them!
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wandalsh84SBR High Roller
- 09-02-10
- 235
#5797Nice response GG, though you do not need to explain yourself, most of us respect you and will continue to follow and support.
I think most of my frustration just comes with how this year has gone in Chicago. Bears make it to the NFC championship only to see Cutler injured and then stuck with Caleb who actually almost leads us back in a game ending drive, which ends with a terrible interception. Blackhawks start playoffs down 3-0 and force a game 7 and Toews scores an amazing SH goal at end of 3rd to force OT and then Sharp misses a goal that he makes 9 times out of 10 in first minute of OT and then Vancouver scores the game winner 4 mins later. Than last night with the Bulls, doing absolutely nothing offensively and blowing a 12 pt lead in the final 3 minutes of the game.
Amazing year across the board for Chicago sports in general, but in every instance, we have just failed to close and that's what is frustrating and this is completely outside of betting. Yes, I understand this is a betting forum, but I just wanted to vent all this last night after the game among others concerned with that game. People bash me for what I said, but I wasn't bashing anyone but the Bulls collapse and I'm not going to make excuses for it, it was a collapse.
As to the guy that said I was rooting for the Heat, F*ck no, F*ck those "hollywood" MF as Noah said last night....I don't have all the above knowledge b/c i'm not a die hard Chicago fan, b/c that's what I am.
Part of the reason I carried on like this is because I am under the impression you are a Chicago fan too GG.Comment -
goldengreekSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-25-07
- 8340
#5798the bottom line = why bet the playoffs?
1. It is basically a new season as the emotional level has increased dramatically.
2. There are more powerful people influencing the outcome than during regular season due to much shorter duration of playoffs.
3. The edges are much smaller because the best teams usually make the final teams that are in the playoffs.
Imo just seems stupid to be betting any decent amount of money on the playoffs.
I was doing fine this yr until the confrence finals.... Bulls / ok ciity collapses in 3 games killed meComment -
goldengreekSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-25-07
- 8340
#5799Comment -
goldengreekSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-25-07
- 8340
#5800Boys,
Chicago was up 12 with min. to play?? How can taking Chicago be such a bad bet is beyond me?? They lead from start and for like 45 min of the 48. I would take the same bet over and over as it will hit.
What happened tonight & on Monday with Oklahoma in my eyes in an anomaly. Over the 1,000+ games played this year in the NBA, how many teams have blown 12-15 point leads in the final 3-4 min? I would hazard to guess maybe 3-4.
This just happened to occur twice in 4 days, I would love to see the odds of that by a sportsbook.Comment -
wandalsh84SBR High Roller
- 09-02-10
- 235
#5801
I was Naive to the fact I guess that the NBA was giving every game to Miami, but all these guys who commented seemed to know that, so why did they keep on the Bulls.
I also wondered why GG didn't have his big play on the under. As I stated earlier, I specifically recall GG stating the under is gold in clinching games.Comment -
goldengreekSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-25-07
- 8340
#5802
im not happy about it and was gonna call it quits after the game last night
not because of the money... But because of the way ive lost my last 6 basketball bets
the 18,000 u point out was 10 % of what ive won since february... So yes... Ouch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment -
goldengreekSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-25-07
- 8340
#5803
dont forget with all the bullshit that was going on they could have easily won 1 or 2 games in miamiComment -
goldengreekSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-25-07
- 8340
#5804nice response gg, though you do not need to explain yourself, most of us respect you and will continue to follow and support.
I think most of my frustration just comes with how this year has gone in chicago. Bears make it to the nfc championship only to see cutler injured and then stuck with caleb who actually almost leads us back in a game ending drive, which ends with a terrible interception. Blackhawks start playoffs down 3-0 and force a game 7 and toews scores an amazing sh goal at end of 3rd to force ot and then sharp misses a goal that he makes 9 times out of 10 in first minute of ot and then vancouver scores the game winner 4 mins later. Than last night with the bulls, doing absolutely nothing offensively and blowing a 12 pt lead in the final 3 minutes of the game.
Amazing year across the board for chicago sports in general, but in every instance, we have just failed to close and that's what is frustrating and this is completely outside of betting. Yes, i understand this is a betting forum, but i just wanted to vent all this last night after the game among others concerned with that game. People bash me for what i said, but i wasn't bashing anyone but the bulls collapse and i'm not going to make excuses for it, it was a collapse.
As to the guy that said i was rooting for the heat, f*ck no, f*ck those "hollywood" mf as noah said last night....i don't have all the above knowledge b/c i'm not a die hard chicago fan, b/c that's what i am.
Part of the reason i carried on like this is because i am under the impression you are a chicago fan too gg.
im a chicago fan but hate the wsox.... But i can easily seperate being a homer from gambling ( as much as that seems untrue with me talking the bulls )Comment -
kingchengRestricted User
- 03-12-11
- 193
#5805LOL this guys says im going back to bed but then makes 4 more posts....looking forward to tonights cardComment -
goldengreekSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-25-07
- 8340
#5806That was my one question too. Everyone seemed to rip the refs and after the fact last night, talk about how the refs gave Heat every game after game 1, so why did they continue to jump on Bulls, especially when the Heat were actually getting points last night.
I was Naive to the fact I guess that the NBA was giving every game to Miami, but all these guys who commented seemed to know that, so why did they keep on the Bulls.
I also wondered why GG didn't have his big play on the under. As I stated earlier, I specifically recall GG stating the under is gold in clinching games.
I didnt want to go balls out on the under because of the large amount I had on the bulls ML
And again... i was wrong thinking the bulls would get an evenly officiatted game at Home
I though the refs could continue their bias in Game 6 and 7 in Miami when it wouldnt be so obvious
AND... IF YOU CHECK WHEN I POSTED MY "EXCUSES/ BITCHING"...I POSTED IT WHEN THE BULLS HAD A 9 POINT LEAD.... BUT AFTER THE HEAT HAD JUST GOT 10 STRAIGHT POINTS FROM THE FOUL LINE IN THE FIRST 4 MINS OF THE 4TH Q TO KEEP THEM FROM GETTING BLOWN OUTLast edited by goldengreek; 05-27-11, 09:32 AM.Comment -
GGZOLASBR MVP
- 06-30-06
- 1118
#5808GREEK will you have a play up on early game? Driving to sin city 2day wanna make sure I get down thx. From now on all bases for me. NBA simply uncappable they are making a killing with fixed live bets.Comment -
wandalsh84SBR High Roller
- 09-02-10
- 235
#5809
So you're a cubs fan.....that explains everything! haha
Just messing, but seriously, you can't quit, maybe the NBA, but you have been doing well in MLB and I don't see that ending, so keep it up, most of us on here love what you do.Comment
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