Originally posted by donnsjuan
Yeah C'mom skeeter
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Yeah C'mom skeeter
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I just started this system yesterday. It doesn't look like there is anybody thats too excited about betting on the Orioles today. I guess I'm a little skeptical about this one going against Lee but I understand its a system bet. Well this might go against the system but why not just throw down a two team parlay for situations like this so you dont have to risk big money on something you dont really want to?
For instance $100 on Baltimore +1.5 at -115 is $186
$100 on Giants ML is $160
This way you dont have to throw out $200 on bets u dont like to win a possible $146. If you throw out a $50 two team it pays out $150 on the head. Now if u go 1-1 and put the $50 two team down you will only miss out on $10 if giants win and $36 if orioles win and giants lose. This way you wont be p*ssed that you missed out on two A team wins if they both win, and you dont have to throw down big on something you dont want to, and its only $46 more possibilities of winnings by putting down $150 more. And if Orioles lose, chalk it up as a loss for the two games and wait til tomorrow night because you wouldve lost anyway by placing single bets.
I just wanted to get this straight and see what everyone else thought since we have a long season ahead, and I'm sure there will be more days like this.Comment -
I took Balt last week against the Twins they are .500 there last 14 games while seattle is 2-8 last ten and not hitting well. Always scary betting dogs but thats why they are the dogs right?? Toronoto was biggest dog on the board yesterday. Anyway GL everyone i'm gonna follow it all season exactly with occassional larger bets on B games and V3 games. DJ thanks for the new series updates
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Interesting dilemma here, should you value one play as better than another if they are both official bets?Originally posted by pelos879
What I have noticed (playing last year as well) is that the RPI differential is a great judge of who to value more in determining strength of a JM play. Look at the difference in RPI's among the two teams playing.
For instance yesterday Cincinnati was 0.33 points better in RPI than Pittsburgh and they ended up winning SU,
where as Toronto was .09 points worse than Boston in RPI and they ended up needing the Run line to win the bet,
so in my opinion Cincinnati was the best bet for yesterday.
For today looking at it I thought San Fransisco would be the best play, but if you look at the RPI's, you'll see that San Fransisco is 0.18 points better in RPI than San Diego and Baltimore is also 0.18 points better in RPI than Seattle.
So in my view they should both be considered equally as good plays, and should both have an equal chance of cashing.
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Most everyone is on SEA tonight.... which makes me feel a bit better about BAL.
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If system does not give damn who are starting pitchers that day, then it is flat stupid! Pitching is not everything in baseball but you don't go against top notch pitcher with some rookie with 8.5 ERA only because system said so
Baseball is a game of stats...so there it is
Yeah , Seattle is the worst hitting team in MLB , it could not win a game against the empty field! But still you have Lee and the team who can not hit. So what is the logical outcome?
I guess it is UNDER 8Comment -
Hopefully Seattle hammers em so we can lay a big bet on the o's tomorowComment -
Its 5-0 Seattle in the 6th. I guess we can lay a big bet Wednesday.Comment -
o's open at - 111Comment -
I'd hold off for a while, see if it can turn into a +1.5Comment -
I just got them at +1.5 -175Comment -
Just FYI if anyone has forgot..
V2.0 System UPDATE:
The update here is designed to allow you even more action during the course of the baseball season by increasing your wager on betting opportunities that have an exceptional probability of betting success.
The change to this new v2.0 system is that you want to increase your stake on the [b] level when these 2 criteria are met:
The change to this new v2.0 system is that you want to increase your stake on the [b] level when these 2 criteria are met:
1. The team you’re betting on is playing at home.
2. The [A] bet that you made resulted in your team losing by 3 or more runs.
Similarly, you want to increase your stake on the [C] level when these 2 criteria are met:
1. The team you’re betting on is playing at home.
2. The [b] bet that you made resulted in your team losing by 3 or more runs.
Here’s an example of the v2.0 system in action:
During the 2008 MLB baseball season, the Detroit Tigers played the Minnesota Twins on the road from May 2nd to May 4th and were swept in all 3 games.
On May 23rd, they began another 3-game series with the Minnesota twins, this time at home. Since the Detroit Tigers fell within the accepted .01 range of RPI disparity with the Minnesota Twins at the time, the series was good to go for betting.
Yet, on 5/23/08, Detroit lost to Minnesota again on the [A] bet by a score of 4-9. Since Detroit lost by at least 3 points at the [A] level, and since they’re playing at home, this would make the [b] bet to fall under the criteria for betting in the v2.0 MLB system.
This means that the next day, on May 24th, you should increase your wagering amount by at least two-fold. So, let’s say that you lost $150 on the [A] bet with Detroit. Instead of betting to win $250 (to attain a $100 profit for the series) as you normally would do, you can double up and bet to win $350 (to attain a $200 profit for the series).
Indeed, the Detroit Tigers came back the next day and completely annihilated Minnesota by their season-record score of 19-3!
Now, I want to note to you that you should of course still make all the bets according to the v1.0 system. However, when a situation arises that meets the criteria of the v2.0 betting system, you should then increase your wager on that betting level by at least twice or more.Comment -
look like 2 b bets tomorrowComment -
Remember...John Morrison or whatever his real name is.....LOVES it
when his system loses.............
......cause he gets a nice kickback on all losses you people suffer from BetUS and any other book he gets
you guys to sign up with......
JM cant lose..........
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John Morrison's Sports Betting Champ Official System Pick(s)
5/12 San Francisco [B]
San Diego
5/12 Baltimore [B]
SeattleComment -
Thanks a lot, really appreciate itComment -
Any new plays for today like A bets?Comment -
So now Baltimore becomes v2 bet, right ?Comment -
Yer BAL is v2. Didn't back O's against Lee, so backing them today. For those that that backing this system, STAY AWAY from BetUs, Just compare the BAL and SF lines with other bookies and you will see the differ. If you're lazy then stay put, but you will lose more and risk more...Comment -
Do some reading in post #421 and you will find what you sickOriginally posted by Thepatientone
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Originally posted by SolidDala
BAL -110 on scores and odds website vs BetUS also -110 4:58am
SF -175 on scores and odds website vs BetUS also -175 4:58am
so not that bad so far
but yes, i heard BetUS will jack up the odds if they think u r chase system player.Comment -
Let's get after the two B bets tonight folks! BOL to all playing the system.Comment -
Is baltimore a RL bet or a ML bet?Comment -
I may be wrong but I Bal on RL and SFG on the MLComment -
I completely agree, SolidDala. BetUS has the absolute worst lines because they are colluding with JM. BetUS is a complete rip-off.Originally posted by SolidDalaComment -
Take BAL RL... even if they become favourites by more and more throughout the day, it won't matter to JM, if they lose by 1 and they have been dogs for just a minute it'll be a win. A lot of people learnt that harsh lesson last seasonOriginally posted by Jiggy FlyComment -
The most important if your playing this system is to grab the line at opening. You can see why this is important and why BetUS is so bad (-190 right now by far the worst!!):Originally posted by TryOnce
covers.com/sports/odds/lineHistory.aspx?eventId=295753&sport=ml b
Its important that everyone look at this and understand that if not shop early, your missing >30 cents of chalk every wager.. For a $100-bettor that means you're risking a couple of thousands to win just the same this season!
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Got on this one too late. It moved from +1.5 to -1.5 as I was putting in the bet.Originally posted by harry
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How would you guys feel about parlaying the 2 games together? If either one loses then you have a C bet on the next game...Comment -
that means you have to win back 2A bets 1B parlay and of course your targeted profit, thats a route to failure imo..
GGPlayer.. take the alternative RL for O's if you really want the +1.5Comment -
Do you keep track of the unofficial win/loss rate, and on what bet it won on?Sorry if it's in this thread somewhere but I didn't see it. thanks!Originally posted by donnsjuanComment -
It is a +1.5 RL bet.Originally posted by Jiggy Fly
Many of us lost the series back then. The team was favorite all day (except few minutes I guess, right after the lines were out), we were on the ML, but they lost by only 1 run, and JM counted it as a win.Originally posted by harry
I posted this on another thread about the system plays in the service plays forum, but I'll say it again.
When he posts his picks, he doesn't say "play this one ML, or play this on on the RL". He started to tell us last year after the loss happened, but now he doesn't.
So, every time before you place a bet, it is good check the opening lines.
Lets say, the team you want to bet on, at some point of the day was an underdog (has +1.5 RL), and because of the big volume of bets on them, they become favorite (like in our case today).
Now you would normally bet on the ML, but if they lose by 1 point, JM will count it as a win (because they were underdogs at some point of the day).
If your sportsbook offers alternative runlines (to get the +1.5 runline), then you can still take +1.5 RL, but for higher juice of course.Comment -
If you parlay the games together you will risk less money.Comment -
I did see on scoresandodds last night that Balt did open up at +1.5R but I couldnt get it. Now do I take my chances on the moneyline because it is not going to swing back around the other way guaranteed? I dont care whether JM considers it a win or not just trying to figure out what I should do.Comment -
Baltimore will win tonightComment
