Cheers to that, but I don't see where Baltimore was ever an underdog. The lowest I see is -101, which is the lowest a favorite can go but not underdog. Are you saying that if a +1.5 runline is available then it should be taken? JM will claim this but that's not what v2 says.
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jphil
SBR Wise Guy
07-12-09
757
#458
Originally posted by bruce0
Cheers to that, but I don't see where Baltimore was ever an underdog. The lowest I see is -101, which is the lowest a favorite can go but not underdog. Are you saying that if a +1.5 runline is available then it should be taken? JM will claim this but that's not what v2 says.
quote from jm's original v1 update(only):
"Basically, the rule of thumb is bet on the run line if the run line shows +1.5 for the team you’re betting on, and bet on the money line if the run line shows -1.5 for the team you’re betting on.
In some extremely rare circumstances, a bookie may offer a -1.5 run line even if your team is the underdog in the game. To be safe rather than sorry, you should always bet on the +1.5 run line if the Money Line odds for your team to win is -115 or less (-110 for example would be considered less). If the +1.5 run line is not offered if your team has a money line odd to win of -113 for example, then you should look for it in the "Alternate Run Line" or "Reverse Run Line" section of your bookmaker.
Keep in mind: Whenever you are betting on the +1.5 run line, you’ll win the bet even if your team loses by 1 run. "
Jm never mentions the above in his latest v1,2,3 update(your choice). Below is from the latest v1,2,3 update regarding the v1/2 correlation (again, your option).
"Now, I want to note to you that you should of course still make all the bets according to the v1.0 system. However, when a situation arises that meets the criteria of the v2.0 betting system, you should then increase your wager on that betting level by at least twice or more. "
I took san.f. last night on alt. run line.
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stevex
SBR Hall of Famer
05-02-10
5122
#459
It really depends on what book you use. What people are saying is that if your book offers + 1 1/2 for the O's on the Alternate RL, then you should take it. I know on BetUS the alternate RL is offered for the O's but at -250 which is to high for my liking. I'd probably take it if it was at -200 or even 210 but 250 damnnn
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dlunc3
SBR Hall of Famer
10-31-09
9129
#460
What kind of line did you get last night for that alt run line on SF??
Originally posted by jphil
quote from jm's original v1 update(only): "Basically, the rule of thumb is bet on the run line if the run line shows +1.5 for the team you’re betting on, and bet on the money line if the run line shows -1.5 for the team you’re betting on. In some extremely rare circumstances, a bookie may offer a -1.5 run line even if your team is the underdog in the game. To be safe rather than sorry, you should always bet on the +1.5 run line if the Money Line odds for your team to win is -115 or less (-110 for example would be considered less). If the +1.5 run line is not offered if your team has a money line odd to win of -113 for example, then you should look for it in the "Alternate Run Line" or "Reverse Run Line" section of your bookmaker. Keep in mind: Whenever you are betting on the +1.5 run line, you’ll win the bet even if your team loses by 1 run. "Jm never mentions the above in his latest v1,2,3 update(your choice). Below is from the latest v1,2,3 update regarding the v1/2 correlation (again, your option). "Now, I want to note to you that you should of course still make all the bets according to the v1.0 system. However, when a situation arises that meets the criteria of the v2.0 betting system, you should then increase your wager on that betting level by at least twice or more. " I took san.f. last night on alt. run line.
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jphil
SBR Wise Guy
07-12-09
757
#461
v2 to me is just a possible indicator that according to jm, there's more of a chance of the o's winning. And i certainly wouldn't double up on a team with the lowest winning % in the leauge (.273). Think i'll do alt.run w/ a slight increase on the B, and hopefully for all, we'll be able to call it a series, no matter what one does.
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Cyril
SBR High Roller
01-23-09
245
#462
Originally posted by stevex
It really depends on what book you use. What people are saying is that if your book offers + 1 1/2 for the O's on the Alternate RL, then you should take it. I know on BetUS the alternate RL is offered for the O's but at -250 which is to high for my liking. I'd probably take it if it was at -200 or even 210 but 250 damnnn
Yeah, I know how it is, it sucks... If you don't want to lay down that much money (-250), just play it for a smaller amount..
I got the line early +1.5 Baltimore at -170 (not alternative RL).
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jphil
SBR Wise Guy
07-12-09
757
#463
Originally posted by dlunc3
What kind of line did you get last night for that alt run line on SF??
-270 (don't laugh) Ya talk about conservative, huh!
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Cyril
SBR High Roller
01-23-09
245
#464
Originally posted by jphil
I took san.f. last night on alt. run line.
SF was a money line bet. Good for you winning on SF yesterday, I guess the line was -57638.. Now you can win second time on the same series lol
(edit: now I saw your post):
Originally posted by jphil
-270 (don't laugh) Ya talk about conservative, huh!
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jphil
SBR Wise Guy
07-12-09
757
#465
Originally posted by Cyril
SF was a money line bet. Good for you winning on SF yesterday, I guess the line was -57638.. Now you can win second time on the same series lol
(edit: now I saw your post):
and kudos to you for gettin in on the balt. early line! Now ya got me thinkin about pursuin san.F. What'd ya mention that for?
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donnsjuan
SBR Rookie
12-14-09
25
#466
Originally posted by bruce0
Do you keep track of the unofficial win/loss rate, and on what bet it won on?Sorry if it's in this thread somewhere but I didn't see it. thanks!
i actually created a spreadsheet that does all the work for you but i actually dont know how to post it... heh.
file hosting i think right?
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donnsjuan
SBR Rookie
12-14-09
25
#467
oh and there are 4 teams with possible sweeps today. Atlanta, Florida, LAD, and Cincinnati.
Cincinnati has already swept Pitt.
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Kelloggs
SBR Wise Guy
06-14-08
958
#468
Originally posted by bruce0
Do you keep track of the unofficial win/loss rate, and on what bet it won on?Sorry if it's in this thread somewhere but I didn't see it. thanks!
i actually created a spreadsheet that does all the work for you but i actually dont know how to post it... heh. file hosting i think right?
Donnsjuan, you should use Google Documents to post your spreadsheet - greatest application ever for sharing docs.
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tzMoney
SBR Sharp
04-16-10
331
#470
I think that Seattle will win again tonight. I was thinking about dropping a sizable bet on them but this damn Morrison A,B,C chase system is making me doubt it. I think its a scam.
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bruce0
SBR Wise Guy
01-07-10
905
#471
Originally posted by donnsjuan
i actually created a spreadsheet that does all the work for you but i actually dont know how to post it... heh.
file hosting i think right?
Great thanks, I can post it if you want to PM me, or see below:
How do I attach a file to a post? To attach a file to your post, you need to be using the main 'New Post' or 'New Thread' page and not 'Quick Reply'. To use the main 'New Post' page, click the 'Post Reply' button in the relevant thread. On this page, below the message box, you will find a button labelled 'Manage Attachments'. Clicking this button will open a new window for uploading attachments. You can upload an attachment either from your computer or from another URL by using the appropriate box on this page. Alternatively you can click the Attachment Icon to open this page. To upload a file from your computer, click the 'Browse' button and locate the file. To upload a file from another URL, enter the full URL for the file in the second box on this page. Once you have completed one of the boxes, click 'Upload'. Once the upload is completed the file name will appear below the input boxes in this window. You can then close the window to return to the new post screen.
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donnsjuan
SBR Rookie
12-14-09
25
#472
alright so i tried out google docs. hope this helps everyone.
if you fill out everything correctly on the left then everything on the right will auto calculate itself. this includes a, b, c, d win totals, loss totals win percentages, and automatically sums up your stake and +/-. not only that but it does this for version 1.0, 3.0, unofficial, and all. and yes 1 is 1.0, 3 is 3.0, and un. is unofficial.
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bruce0
SBR Wise Guy
01-07-10
905
#473
Originally posted by jphil
quote from jm's original v1 update(only):
"Basically, the rule of thumb is bet on the run line if the run line shows +1.5 for the team you’re betting on, and bet on the money line if the run line shows -1.5 for the team you’re betting on.
In some extremely rare circumstances, a bookie may offer a -1.5 run line even if your team is the underdog in the game. To be safe rather than sorry, you should always bet on the +1.5 run line if the Money Line odds for your team to win is -115 or less (-110 for example would be considered less). If the +1.5 run line is not offered if your team has a money line odd to win of -113 for example, then you should look for it in the "Alternate Run Line" or "Reverse Run Line" section of your bookmaker.
Keep in mind: Whenever you are betting on the +1.5 run line, you’ll win the bet even if your team loses by 1 run. "
Jm never mentions the above in his latest v1,2,3 update(your choice). Below is from the latest v1,2,3 update regarding the v1/2 correlation (again, your option).
"Now, I want to note to you that you should of course still make all the bets according to the v1.0 system. However, when a situation arises that meets the criteria of the v2.0 betting system, you should then increase your wager on that betting level by at least twice or more. "
I took san.f. last night on alt. run line.
Thanks so it seems that JM could theoretically call any one run loss a win, so long as there's an alt line out there somewhere.
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donnsjuan
SBR Rookie
12-14-09
25
#474
Originally posted by bruce0
Great thanks, I can post it if you want to PM me, or see below:
How do I attach a file to a post? To attach a file to your post, you need to be using the main 'New Post' or 'New Thread' page and not 'Quick Reply'. To use the main 'New Post' page, click the 'Post Reply' button in the relevant thread. On this page, below the message box, you will find a button labelled 'Manage Attachments'. Clicking this button will open a new window for uploading attachments. You can upload an attachment either from your computer or from another URL by using the appropriate box on this page. Alternatively you can click the Attachment Icon to open this page. To upload a file from your computer, click the 'Browse' button and locate the file. To upload a file from another URL, enter the full URL for the file in the second box on this page. Once you have completed one of the boxes, click 'Upload'. Once the upload is completed the file name will appear below the input boxes in this window. You can then close the window to return to the new post screen.
oh I see now. i guess ill do this as well then. just to cover all bases.
i see a rainout. so what happens if they don't play 2 tomorrow? is the series considered over even though the A bet lost?
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edh1011
SBR Wise Guy
08-02-09
907
#477
nope now they are playing. i can see why the O's suck so bad. they swing at the first damn thing every at bat
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actionaddict86
SBR Sharp
02-13-09
464
#478
Let go mariners
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edh1011
SBR Wise Guy
08-02-09
907
#479
Originally posted by actionaddict86
Let go mariners
did you bet against the system?
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TryOnce
SBR Sharp
03-23-10
254
#480
Originally posted by SolidDala
The most important if your playing this system is to grab the line at opening. You can see why this is important and why BetUS is so bad (-190 right now by far the worst!!):
covers.com/sports/odds/lineHistory.aspx?eventId=295753&sport=ml b
Its important that everyone look at this and understand that if not shop early, your missing >30 cents of chalk every wager.. For a $100-bettor that means you're risking a couple of thousands to win just the same this season!
look like 5Dimes is the best book when everybody up from -165 to -175 or to -190, 5Dimes still stay at -165
i might go open an account there this week
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dukipl
SBR Sharp
04-08-09
376
#481
Let's go Baltimore
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stevex
SBR Hall of Famer
05-02-10
5122
#482
Baltimore, i love you
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edh1011
SBR Wise Guy
08-02-09
907
#483
in my sportsbook the giants opened at -170 and have not moved at all. i'm seriously thinking about betting the
-1.5 RL for +130 instead. if the sorry O's can blow out their opponent, then the giants are more than capable. it's a tough decision though. all that juice on the ML just makes me sick
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zigomanisinsider
Restricted User
07-28-09
4007
#484
am on gaints go gaints
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Cyril
SBR High Roller
01-23-09
245
#485
Muhaha Baltimore rocks ! I'm glad I doubled up on this one v.2 remember..
Here you go skeptics and BAL haters ..
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zigomanisinsider
Restricted User
07-28-09
4007
#486
look like c bet coming tomorrow on gaints
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edh1011
SBR Wise Guy
08-02-09
907
#487
the game is young. besides the giants just tied it
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stevex
SBR Hall of Famer
05-02-10
5122
#488
Decided to get cocky and take SF in the -1 1/2 RL +115 . Juice is a killer with these MLines.