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  • Tomatero
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-06-17
    • 610

    #71
    Where do you watch current totals??
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    • Tomatero
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 05-06-17
      • 610

      #72
      Mil/pit its a play, current total 8.
      Good luck amigos 🍀.
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #73
        Originally posted by Tomatero
        Mil/pit its a play, current total 8.
        Good luck amigos 🍀.
        Looks like hou/laa is also now A play.

        Personally I played it overnight and got u8.5. As I mentioned to husker earlier in this thread I don't think waiting is the best stretegy as I believe ya'll will find playing the overnights on these will more times than not land ya a better price and/or a half run on the total!! I understand the parameters call for totals 8 or lower but in these cases I can generally forsee when starters that fit criteria are gonna have the under take in money and line will subsequently drop into a play range. Waiting for it to hit 8 will never cause it to be a losing play but certainly gonna push some that could of cashed playing the 8.5 before it drops..

        I try to play majority of my totals overnight as far more often than not I lose value by waiting. as I suspected I already played a lot of the unders in huskers system just cause happen to line up with things I was already looking for which is why I felt confident saying I thought he was on to something and that he prob find more value betting them overnight..

        Just throwing my thoughts out there. Really like this thread to be a long term success.
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        • Tomatero
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 05-06-17
          • 610

          #74
          Originally posted by 2daBank
          Looks like hou/laa is also now A play.

          Personally I played it overnight and got u8.5. As I mentioned to husker earlier in this thread I don't think waiting is the best stretegy as I believe ya'll will find playing the overnights on these will more times than not land ya a better price and/or a half run on the total!! I understand the parameters call for totals 8 or lower but in these cases I can generally forsee when starters that fit criteria are gonna have the under take in money and line will subsequently drop into a play range. Waiting for it to hit 8 will never cause it to be a losing play but certainly gonna push some that could of cashed playing the 8.5 before it drops..

          I try to play majority of my totals overnight as far more often than not I lose value by waiting. as I suspected I already played a lot of the unders in huskers system just cause happen to line up with things I was already looking for which is why I felt confident saying I thought he was on to something and that he prob find more value betting them overnight..

          Just throwing my thoughts out there. Really like this thread to be a long term success.
          Yeah now is a play, good luck amigos 🍀
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          • nfl_huskers
            SBR High Roller
            • 04-23-17
            • 120

            #75
            Originally posted by Tomatero
            Where do you watch current totals??
            I just watch all the lines here on SBR and compare to what SDQL is returning while I'm researching.
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            • nfl_huskers
              SBR High Roller
              • 04-23-17
              • 120

              #76
              Originally posted by Tomatero
              Mil/pit its a play, current total 8.
              Good luck amigos .
              Thanks for posting this. Man, busy day.
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              • nfl_huskers
                SBR High Roller
                • 04-23-17
                • 120

                #77
                Originally posted by 2daBank
                Looks like hou/laa is also now A play.

                Personally I played it overnight and got u8.5. As I mentioned to husker earlier in this thread I don't think waiting is the best stretegy as I believe ya'll will find playing the overnights on these will more times than not land ya a better price and/or a half run on the total!! I understand the parameters call for totals 8 or lower but in these cases I can generally forsee when starters that fit criteria are gonna have the under take in money and line will subsequently drop into a play range. Waiting for it to hit 8 will never cause it to be a losing play but certainly gonna push some that could of cashed playing the 8.5 before it drops..

                I try to play majority of my totals overnight as far more often than not I lose value by waiting. as I suspected I already played a lot of the unders in huskers system just cause happen to line up with things I was already looking for which is why I felt confident saying I thought he was on to something and that he prob find more value betting them overnight..

                Just throwing my thoughts out there. Really like this thread to be a long term success.

                Thanks for posting the hou/laa play. Looks like you got a winner with that extra half run.

                Actually playing the system is providing some good information about line movements. Building a system based on closing lines is only the beginning. Like you said, we still want to get the best value play while still meeting the system parameters. Grabbing those early 8.5's would have been 2-0 today instead of two pushes. Just trying to figure out the best way to recognize those 8.5's that actually end up as 8.5's.

                Great job today, and thanks for the insight.
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                • nfl_huskers
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 04-23-17
                  • 120

                  #78
                  Results for 5/7/2017

                  HOU/LAA 8.0U -115 PUSH
                  MIL/PIT 8.0U +105 PUSH

                  SF/CIN: Total stayed at 8.5, so no play.


                  Year-To-Date


                  Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


                  April SDQL Record:
                  22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

                  May Actual Plays: 7-5-2 (+1.50u)


                  Filtered System (13% ROI)


                  May Actual Plays:
                  2-2-0 (-0.25u)
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                  • nfl_huskers
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 04-23-17
                    • 120

                    #79
                    Looks like I missed the NYY/CHC play today. Lester's 3.67 ERA fit the parameters after the total dropped from 7.5 to 7.0.

                    I guess it was a lucky miss. The Cubs just scored three in the bottom of the 9th to tie the game 4-4.
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                    • nfl_huskers
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 04-23-17
                      • 120

                      #80
                      Potential Plays for 5/8/2017

                      Unfiltered

                      SF/NYM: 7.0U
                      Not a play at 7.5. Just dropped to 7.0.

                      NYY/CIN: 8.0U
                      Still at 8.5. Needs 8.0. Just dropped from 9.0.

                      TEX/SD: 7.0U
                      Still at 7.5. Needs 7.0.

                      LAA/OAK: 7.5U
                      Still at 8.0. Needs 7.5.

                      STL/MIA: 7.5U
                      Still at 8.0. Needs 7.5. Looks promising.
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                      • Tomatero
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 05-06-17
                        • 610

                        #81
                        System say 6.5 to 8, why isnt a play yet??
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                        • nfl_huskers
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 04-23-17
                          • 120

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Tomatero
                          System say 6.5 to 8, why isnt a play yet??
                          ERA's must be at or above total/2.

                          SF/NYM: deGrom = 3.68. Needs total of 7.0 or less.

                          TEX/SD: Cahill = 3.60. Needs total of 7.0 or less.

                          LAA/OAK: Graveman = 3.95. Needs total of 7.5 or less.

                          STL/MIA: Martinez = 3.75. Needs total of 7.5 or less.
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                          • Tomatero
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 05-06-17
                            • 610

                            #83
                            Originally posted by nfl_huskers
                            ERA's must be at or above total/2..

                            SF/NYM: deGrom = 3.68. Needs total of 7.0 or less.

                            TEX/SD: Cahill = 3.60. Needs total of 7.0 or less.

                            LAA/OAK: Graveman = 3.95. Needs total of 7.5 or less.

                            STL/MIA: Martinez = 3.75. Needs total of 7.5 or less.
                            Ok i got it, thanks.
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                            • Sultan
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 07-08-10
                              • 236

                              #84
                              Do you wait until the last minute to make the play? Or those are allready the plays?
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                              • nfl_huskers
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 04-23-17
                                • 120

                                #85
                                Early Games

                                Unfiltered

                                SF/NYM: Play 7.0U -105

                                NYY/CIN: No play. Total holding at 8.5. Need 8.0.
                                STL/MIA: No play. Total holding at 8.0. Need 7.5 or less (Martinez ERA is 3.75).


                                Will update about late games soon.
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                                • nfl_huskers
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 04-23-17
                                  • 120

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Sultan
                                  Do you wait until the last minute to make the play? Or those are allready the plays?

                                  Today's plays were more of a waiting game than normal because some of the pitcher ERA's were right around 3.5 - 4.0, which is halfway to the totals of 7.0 to 8.0. Changes in the totals impacted the parameters all day. That's part of the reason why CHC became a play late yesterday when the total dropped to 7.0.

                                  Recent days, the ERA's have been above 4.5 with totals around 7.5 to 8.0, so the pick is pretty much set early. Just need to get the best line.

                                  Unfortunately, the system is based on closing lines, so there's a balance between jumping in early, and making sure that all the parameters will be met at the close.
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                                  • nfl_huskers
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 04-23-17
                                    • 120

                                    #87
                                    Late Games


                                    TEX/SD: NO PLAY.
                                    Total is stuck at 7.5, and we need 7.0 for a play (Cahill ERA 3.60).

                                    LAA/OAK: NO PLAY.
                                    Total is stuck at 8.0, and we need 7.5 for a play (Graveman ERA 3.95).
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                                    • nfl_huskers
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-23-17
                                      • 120

                                      #88
                                      Results for 5/8/2017

                                      SF/NYM: 7.0U -105 PUSH


                                      Year-To-Date


                                      Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


                                      April SDQL Record:
                                      22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

                                      May Actual Plays: 7-5-3 (+1.50u)


                                      Filtered System (13% ROI)


                                      May Actual Plays:
                                      2-2-0 (-0.25u)
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                                      • nfl_huskers
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 04-23-17
                                        • 120

                                        #89
                                        5/9 - no plays on early afternoon games.

                                        Will update about evening/night games in a couple hours.
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                                        • nfl_huskers
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 04-23-17
                                          • 120

                                          #90
                                          5/9 - Night Games

                                          Unfiltered System

                                          PLAY
                                          SF/NYM: 7.0U -110
                                          Any total from 6.5 to 8.0 is valid here.


                                          WAIT
                                          Decision closer to game time for these:

                                          LAA/OAK: Play if total looks to close at 8.0. Currently 8.5.

                                          STL/MIA: Play if total looks to close at 8.0. Currently 8.0, but trending 8.5.
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                                          • nfl_huskers
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 04-23-17
                                            • 120

                                            #91
                                            5/9 - All Plays

                                            Unfiltered System

                                            SF/NYM: 7.0U -110
                                            Much better line now, but already locked in the -110 earlier.

                                            LAA/OAK: 8.0U +100
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                                            • nfl_huskers
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 04-23-17
                                              • 120

                                              #92
                                              Results for 5/9/2017

                                              SF/NYM: 7.0U -110 PUSH

                                              LAA/OAK: 8.0U +100 LOSS (-1.0u)


                                              Year-To-Date


                                              Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


                                              April SDQL Record:
                                              22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

                                              May Actual Plays: 7-6-4 (+0.50u)


                                              Filtered System (13% ROI)


                                              May Actual Plays:
                                              2-2-0 (-0.25u)
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                                              • nfl_huskers
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 04-23-17
                                                • 120

                                                #93
                                                Plays for 5/10

                                                Unfiltered System

                                                PLAY

                                                CLE/TOR: 8.0U
                                                Trending 7.5. Grab 8.0 if you can, but 7.5 still fits.

                                                PIT/LAD: 7.5U
                                                Holding steady. Still valid play at 7.0 or 8.0.


                                                WAIT

                                                SF/NYM: 8.0U
                                                Trending 8.5. Play only if it holds 8.0 or less.

                                                KC/TB: 7.0U
                                                Trending 8.0, which is not a play with Archer's 3.57 ERA. Need 7.0 or less.
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                                                • nfl_huskers
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 04-23-17
                                                  • 120

                                                  #94
                                                  Passing on SF/NYM. Totals split between 8.0 and 8.5.
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                                                  • nfl_huskers
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 04-23-17
                                                    • 120

                                                    #95
                                                    Plays for 5/10 - FINAL

                                                    Unfiltered System

                                                    CLE/TOR: 8.0U -115
                                                    Current total is 7.5, which is still valid.

                                                    PIT/LAD: 7.5U -105
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                                                    • nfl_huskers
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 04-23-17
                                                      • 120

                                                      #96
                                                      5/11
                                                      Only one potential play, but late game, so watching for now. Invalid if total is 8.5.

                                                      CIN/SF: 8.0U
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                                                      • nfl_huskers
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 04-23-17
                                                        • 120

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by nfl_huskers
                                                        5/11
                                                        Only one potential play, but late game, so watching for now. Invalid if total is 8.5.

                                                        CIN/SF: 8.0U
                                                        No plays today. CIN/SF total is holding at 8.5.
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                                                        • nfl_huskers
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 04-23-17
                                                          • 120

                                                          #98
                                                          Results from 5/10/2017

                                                          CLE/TOR: 8.0U -115 LOSS (-1.15u)

                                                          PIT/LAD: 7.5U -105 WIN (+1.0u)


                                                          Year-To-Date


                                                          Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


                                                          April SDQL Record:
                                                          22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

                                                          May Actual Plays: 8-7-4 (+0.35u)


                                                          Filtered System (13% ROI)


                                                          May Actual Plays:
                                                          2-2-0 (-0.25u)
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                                                          • nfl_huskers
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 04-23-17
                                                            • 120

                                                            #99
                                                            Plays for 5/12

                                                            Unfiltered System
                                                            CIN/SF: 7.0U -105
                                                            Valid play at 6.5 or 7.5 also.


                                                            DET/LAA: Will be a play if total drops from 8.5 to 8.0. Not there yet.
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                                                            • Tomatero
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 05-06-17
                                                              • 610

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by nfl_huskers
                                                              Plays for 5/12

                                                              Unfiltered System
                                                              CIN/SF: 7.0U -105
                                                              Valid play at 6.5 or 7.5 also.


                                                              DET/LAA: Will be a play if total drops from 8.5 to 8.0. Not there yet.
                                                              Nice hit
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                                                              • 2daBank
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-26-09
                                                                • 88966

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by nfl_huskers
                                                                Thanks for posting the hou/laa play. Looks like you got a winner with that extra half run.

                                                                Actually playing the system is providing some good information about line movements. Building a system based on closing lines is only the beginning. Like you said, we still want to get the best value play while still meeting the system parameters. Grabbing those early 8.5's would have been 2-0 today instead of two pushes. Just trying to figure out the best way to recognize those 8.5's that actually end up as 8.5's.

                                                                Great job today, and thanks for the insight.
                                                                Sorry I'm just getting back to you had a rough week at work so wasn't able to post much.

                                                                Obviously there no surefire way to accomplish getting those 8.5 overnights without catching at least a few that never fall in parameters. However the totals I typically play early are ones where pitchers either over or under performing their peripherals as the saber crowd typically moves these. So as with that laa game where pitchers era fit your perameters but their peripherals showed conciderably better. In situations like that you can bank on those totals dropping on us far more often than not.

                                                                Honestly I can't imagine taking a early line and total ends up staying outside range would terribly hurt your success rate. So maybe your next project is to determine if the wins catching the 8.5/better juice adds opposed to a push is enough to make up for the occasional play that ends up being outside the parameters? And is said play even actually a liability on its own?
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                                                                • nfl_huskers
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 04-23-17
                                                                  • 120

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Results from 5/12/2017

                                                                  Unfiltered System

                                                                  CIN/SF: 7.0U -105 WIN (+1.0u)


                                                                  Year-To-Date


                                                                  Unfiltered System (5% ROI)

                                                                  April SDQL Record:
                                                                  22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

                                                                  May Actual Plays:
                                                                  9
                                                                  -7-4 (+1.35u)

                                                                  Filtered System (13% ROI)

                                                                  May Actual Plays:
                                                                  2-2-0 (-0.25u)
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                                                                  • nfl_huskers
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 04-23-17
                                                                    • 120

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                    Sorry I'm just getting back to you had a rough week at work so wasn't able to post much.

                                                                    Obviously there no surefire way to accomplish getting those 8.5 overnights without catching at least a few that never fall in parameters. However the totals I typically play early are ones where pitchers either over or under performing their peripherals as the saber crowd typically moves these. So as with that laa game where pitchers era fit your perameters but their peripherals showed conciderably better. In situations like that you can bank on those totals dropping on us far more often than not.

                                                                    Honestly I can't imagine taking a early line and total ends up staying outside range would terribly hurt your success rate. So maybe your next project is to determine if the wins catching the 8.5/better juice adds opposed to a push is enough to make up for the occasional play that ends up being outside the parameters? And is said play even actually a liability on its own?

                                                                    Thanks for the info. I'm still researching while I play this as originally advertised. However, I have noticed that a total of 8.5 is profitable over the long haul when the home team is favored, so I'll be starting more 8.5 picks in June after testing it out in May.

                                                                    As you mentioned, I'm looking into the impact of grabbing those 8.5's rather than taking a push at 8.0 to see if the impact is positive or negligible.
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                                                                    • nfl_huskers
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 04-23-17
                                                                      • 120

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Potentials for 5/13

                                                                      CIN/SF: 8.0U
                                                                      Looks good. Holding at 8.0.

                                                                      DET/LAA: 8.0U
                                                                      Currently 8.5. Needs 8.0. Late game, so watching.
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                                                                      • nfl_huskers
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 04-23-17
                                                                        • 120

                                                                        #105
                                                                        CIN/SF - no play. Consensus appears to be 8.5 heading into game time.
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