If you're the A's, do you start Colon or Gray in Game 5?

TheMLBKing · 10-08-13, 11:51 PM

it should be gray because colon's back is probably gonna give out like it did in 2005.

scholesy · 10-08-13, 11:55 PM

Colon without a doubt, wouldn't trust a rookie in elimination game.

2daBank · 10-08-13, 11:59 PM

ol juicy where my money be..

whtsox13 · 10-09-13, 12:54 AM

Can't find an edge so gonna hedge. Taking DET in game 5 vs A's series wager

imadegen · 10-09-13, 01:06 AM

I'd go with gray. He's on normal days rest. Colon is a contact pitcher and the tigers bats have obviously come to life.

TheMLBKing · 10-09-13, 04:16 AM

Originally posted by scholesy

Colon without a doubt, wouldn't trust a rookie in elimination game.

Sonny Gray isn't just any rookie, have you even been watching the A's this season? Game 2 was essentially an elimination game and he outdueled verlander.

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 06:21 AM

Melvin is going with Colon.

On the bright side for the A's Bartolo Colon
cant pitch any worse than he did last time
and Verlander cant possibly any better
than he did last time.

Hopefully Scherzer will not be available out of the pen

Down_Goes Bookie · 10-09-13, 06:44 AM

I'd start Gray. And I wouldn't even consider a wager on the As with Colon on the mound. With Gray I'd give it some thought.

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by Down_Goes Bookie

I'd start Gray. And I wouldn't even consider a wager on the As with Colon on the mound. With Gray I'd give it some thought.

why is that?

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 06:55 AM

Gray and Colon will probably both pitch right?

i'm sure whichever one doesnt start will be 1st in relief

Down_Goes Bookie · 10-09-13, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by Big Bear

why is that?

Tigers hitting him at a .330 clip. Gave up 10 H in 6 IP vs. Det last week. Weak September schedule, facing Seattle Minnesota and Houston. Unfavorable peripherals... same as all year and yeah he shows up with the mojo and baffles everyone but I just don't see the portly veteran coming out of this one on top.

Gray could bail him out from the bullpen but if A's are already down 3-0 and Verlander repeats his last stellar outing that's a big deficit.

Torii Hunter	66	60	15	6	0	2	8	4	11	.250	.318	.450	.768	0	0	2	0
Ramon Santiago	28	26	11	3	1	0	3	0	2	.423	.444	.615	1.060	1	0	1	0
Victor Martinez	26	25	8	3	0	1	3	1	3	.320	.346	.560	.906	0	0	0	0
Miguel Cabrera	19	19	9	2	0	0	3	0	2	.474	.474	.579	1.053	0	0	0	1
Austin Jackson	18	17	5	1	0	0	0	1	6	.294	.333	.353	.686	0	0	0	0
Alex Avila	11	11	6	1	0	2	5	0	1	.545	.545	1.182	1.727	0	0	0	0
Andy Dirks	11	11	4	0	0	1	1	0	2	.364	.364	.636	1.000	0	0	0	0
Jhonny Peralta	11	11	2	0	0	0	0	0	3	.182	.182	.182	.364	0	0	0	0
Prince Fielder	10	10	5	1	0	1	4	0	0	.500	.500	.900	1.400	0	0	0	1
Omar Infante	10	10	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	.400	.400	.400	.800	0	0	0	0
Don Kelly	7	7	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000	0	0	0	0
Jose Iglesias	4	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000	0	0	0	0
Brayan Pena	2	1	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	1.000	.500	1.000	1.500	0	1	0	0
Total	223	212	70	17	1	7	28	6	31	.330	.356	.519	.875	1	1	3	2

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 07:53 AM

fukk!!

your right.

They better pitch Gray

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 08:20 AM

Are the A's considering Gray?

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 08:24 AM

Bob Melvin is a fukkin idiot

how the fukk do you leave Doolittle in after
a HR and double??

not only does he blow the lead, he lets Tigers take the lead.

If i say see Doolittle pitch again i'm going to break my tv
he is a fukkin scrub.

and Soggard???? how the hell is this guy in the major leagues???

hes automatic out, ive seen pitchers in the NL who swing the bat better

BMoreBird · 10-09-13, 08:34 AM

sonny gray has been lights out and pitched great vs verlander. colon not as much. start the kid! colon in bullpen just in case

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by BMoreBird

sonny gray has been lights out and pitched great vs verlander. colon not as much. start the kid! colon in bullpen just in case

after giving it some thought , I agree
he gives the A's the best chance to win.

Any word on if this may happen or not?

BMoreBird · 10-09-13, 09:08 AM

not yet. im waiting... probably will be announced this afternoon.

BMoreBird · 10-09-13, 09:25 AM

looks like colon is starting. i bet gray will be in the bullpen in case he starts off poorly or gets in a jam.

Down_Goes Bookie · 10-09-13, 09:43 AM

Rotoworld:

Justin Verlander will start ALDS Game 5 against the Athletics on Thursday.

The Tigers used Max Scherzer for two innings in relief in Game 4, so Verlander will now get the ball in Oakland. He held the A's scoreless while striking out 11 over seven innings in Game 2 last weekend.The A's have yet to announce their starter, but it will be either Bartolo Colon or Sonny Gray. Scherzer should be ready to go for Game 1 of the ALCS should the Tigers advance.
Source: Jane Lee on Twitter
Oct 8 - 9:26 PM

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by Big Bear

Melvin is going with Colon.

On the bright side for the A's Bartolo Colon
cant pitch any worse than he did last time
and Verlander cant possibly any better
than he did last time.

Hopefully Scherzer will not be available out of the pen

WTF are you talking about?

This post couldn't be more wrong on every level.

Luckycharms2012 · 10-09-13, 10:00 AM

If Colon starts Tigers win.

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

WTF are you talking about?

This post couldn't be more wrong on every level.

how so?

Verlander cant pitch any better than he did last time.

He didnt give up a single run. Maybe this time he gives up 3

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Luckycharms2012

If Colon starts Tigers win.

i agree.

Save Colon for Game 1 vs Red Sox.

This Gray kid has swing and miss stuff.

Vinnie Paz · 10-09-13, 11:28 AM

What makes everyone so confident in zoolander? He's been shaky, we all know this. Not saying he wont come through when it matters, more just playing devils advocate really, just seems everyone's already counted the As out. If zoolander shits the bed, who's behind him??

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Vinnie Paz

What makes everyone so confident in zoolander? He's been shaky, we all know this. Not saying he wont come through when it matters, more just playing devils advocate really, just seems everyone's already counted the As out. If zoolander shits the bed, who's behind him??

Because the A's had so many chances to win yesterday and they choked. Now the Tigers
have momentum.

Reddick, and Moss have been striking out way too much. Soggard couldnt hit water
if he fell out a boat. (hopefully Collaspo starts Thursday)

Verlander has been brilliant in his last 3 starts and looked like
Cy Young Verlander in his last start this past Saturday.

That and Verlander dominated the A's last year in game 5 too.

And the Tigers bats have woken up. V-Mart and Peralta are on fire!

Only hope for the A's is that Verlander throws 120 pitches thru 6 innings and the Tigers bring in
Coke or Benoit

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Big Bear

how so?

Verlander cant pitch any better than he did last time.

He didnt give up a single run. Maybe this time he gives up 3

Colon wasn't that bad the first time out. "Couldn't be any worse"? Other than the first inning, he was fine.

And to think Scherzer would be available out of the bullpen again? LOL.

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 11:59 AM

I got A's to win the series but i just hedged . Lost all confidence in the A's after yesterday.

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Colon wasn't that bad the first time out. "Couldn't be any worse"? Other than the first inning, he was fine.

And to think Scherzer would be available out of the bullpen again? LOL.

Colon did not have good stuff in his last start. His velocity was down. He lacked movement too.

i dont know if Scherzer will be available or not.

Are you saying he's confirmed not available in the bullpen Thursday?

2daBank · 10-09-13, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

Because the A's had so many chances to win yesterday and they choked. Now the Tigers
have momentum.

Reddick, and Moss have been striking out way too much. Soggard couldnt hit water
if he fell out a boat. (hopefully Collaspo starts Thursday)

Verlander has been brilliant in his last 3 starts and looked like
Cy Young Verlander in his last start this past Saturday.

That and Verlander dominated the A's last year in game 5 too.

And the Tigers bats have woken up. V-Mart and Peralta are on fire!

Only hope for the A's is that Verlander throws 120 pitches thru 6 innings and the Tigers bring in
Coke or Benoit

momentum dont mean shit..

italianbandit · 10-09-13, 12:41 PM

It almost doesn't matter much, either will be on a very tight leash. I would start Colon as emotions will be very high to start and I'd rather have a dumb, fat, regressing experienced juice head than a rookie in the first few innings.

Itsamazing777 · 10-09-13, 01:08 PM

Tigers had never seen grey.
now they have

Birdman557 · 10-09-13, 01:09 PM

Colon is starting

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Birdman557

Colon is starting

Source?

Regul8er · 10-09-13, 02:26 PM

Hasta be Colon......outside of a few pitches in the 1st inning in Game 1, guy was shutdown.
He's earned the right to start this game. I'm sure the leash will be a little tighter, and Gray will be available out of the bully.